LIVE session coverage...
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here. Subscriptions are $350 per year.
In the gutter

Monday, Jan 7, 2008

* The rhetoric in the 14th Congressional district Republican primary is going way over the top. From a Jim Oberweis press release…

“When is career politician Chris Lauzen going to ‘man up’ and come clean with the voters of the 14th District regarding his recent announcement that he plans to return $100,000 in tainted campaign contributions he took, over a period of ten years, from a convicted felon and the firm he heads?

“Two weeks ago, Mr. Lauzen announced he was going to give back $100,000 in tainted campaign cash,” said Pascoe. “He claimed then that while he previously knew of the donor’s own criminal conviction, he was unaware of the ethical and legal concerns surrounding the donor’s company — and, in fact, remained unaware until he recently got an email from 15 businessmen who laid out the company’s ongoing troubles.

“Sadly, this statement does not square with the facts as publicly known. On December 27, 2007 — five days after Mr. Lauzen’s announcement was first reported in the Beacon News — the Beacon News revealed that, contrary to Mr. Lauzen’s assertions, he had been made aware of his donor’s company’s legal troubles almost TWO YEARS EARLIER than he had acknowledged.

“Mr. Lauzen’s announcement, as we pointed out before Christmas, raises more questions than it answers. This new information revealing that Mr. Lauzen was publicly upbraided almost two years ago for taking this tainted money raises the bar even further. Mr. Lauzen should release the email he claims he received from the 15 businessmen, and should come clean by revealing now exactly what he knew and when he knew about his donor’s troubled past - and what has changed between now and almost two years ago, when he first was made aware?

* To which Lauzen replied

“Jim, you’ve left me no choice but to respond to your campaign’s negative attacks. From now on, I will not sit idly by and allow you to mislead the voters.

“The voters only need to look at Team Oberweis’ campaign rhetoric and public statements to realize full well that Jim is ignoring Denny Hastert’s desire to have his endorsed candidate run a positive campaign. In fact, it is rather difficult to find anything but scathing attacks on me that have nothing to do with the issues. […]

“Jim, to quote your political mercenary, it’s time for you to ‘man up’ and gain control of your campaign. Stop hiding behind your attack-dog consultants and let the voters figure out who is most ready and prepared to lead. If you are unable or unwilling to confront me yourself, say so and explain why.”

* So far, the back and forth has generated little to no earned media and the candidates aren’t taking this message to the voters via their paid media

Some of Oberweis’ and Lauzen’s attacks on each other are the same, down to the capitalization in the press releases. An Oct. 30 press release from Oberweis called Lauzen part of “the Establishment Insiders.” A Dec. 13 Lauzen press release said Oberweis was trying to buy “Insider Establishment clout.”

Whether the “Establishment Insiders” or the “Insider Establishment” are attacks that will resonate with the voters is to be seen. Those messages are not being presented directly to the voters, but to the news media.

The four TV commercials that Oberweis has broadcast deal with immigration, finances, the Oberweis family dairy, and Midwestern values. None of them reference Lauzen or any other candidate.

Likewise, Lauzen plans commercials based on his platform, not attacks.

“The theme … [is] about integrity, service and a philosophy that there ought to be limits on government, a person that will not enrich himself and his family on his service,” Lauzen said.

* Lauzen has clearly developed more detailed issue positions than Oberweis, and Lauzen was recently endorsed by former US Sen. Peter Fitzgerald. The big question remains how much of his own money that Oberweis will spend and whether he can get away with these attacks without attracting the notice of too many voters.

* But Lauzen is famous for his ground game

Early reports are that between 500 and 600 grassroots supporters of State Senator Chris Lauzen jammed into the Aurora Christian High School where they were energized to knock on doors and get Lauzen supporters to the polls February 5.

* Meanwhile, Democrats are taking notice…

Lets hope they beat the crap out of each other and that things get really really nasty.

This should be lots of fun to watch.

- Posted by Rich Miller        


23 Comments
  1. - Carl Nyberg - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 11:34 am:

    I can cheer Republicans losing Congressional seats, but let’s be realistic about the Democrats.

    A big chunk of the Dem establishment has said they’d give the seat to the GOP before they’d lift a finger to help John Laesch.

    Bill Foster has trouble closing the sale with Democratic activists.


  2. - Bill Baar - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 11:44 am:

    We can thank Hastert for this.

    If Oberweis gets the nod from GOP voters, Hastert’s manipulation here is going to dog him.

    It’s a bad legacy to have left.

    I need to driver further south and west in the district, but right now my sense counting yard signs (on real yards vs along the road and in front of businesses) is Lauzen and Laesch have the “grass roots” of their respective parties.

    Both in my opinion have more thoughout viewpoints and a clash between them a lot more informative than one between Foster and Oberweis.

    Oberweis has the added handicap of disliking the immigrant part of illegal immigration. That’s a real handi cap for a party that should be learning a little spanish to speak to voters who are often cultural conservatives and, as folks moving between Latin America and North America, would benefit from portable entitlements like personal SSA accounts, and Medical Savings accounts.


  3. - Ghost - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 11:50 am:

    I am never impressed with these “bad money” campaign attacks. If the only negative you have on a canidate is that somone who gave them money is a bad person, no big deal. Link the money to some quid pro quo government action by the official and yah have a sotry, otherwise its a big meh from me.

    That said Lauzens response was horrible. Its whiney, “please dont say bad things about me” tone just reads bad. ALso he really works to throw in a comment and drag on his sniveling over not getting Hasterts endorsement. What he really needed was a more polished response answering this whole tainted momney thing as a red herring that reflects nothing about his political positions, site a few of the positions he has outlined and where oberwiess has none, and call oberweiss for lacking any substance.

    He needs a better campaign manager, or needs to vet his comment better.


  4. - YNM - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 11:53 am:

    Any campaign that involves Oberweis is fun to watch … not necessarily good for the appetite, but entertaining nonetheless.

    I guess Lauzen is a career politician and Oberweis is quickly becoming a career wannabe.


  5. - Pat collins - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 1:05 pm:

    Why do politicians EVER give back the money?

    Whatever happened to “if you give me money that doesn’t mean I endorse you. It means you endorse me”.


  6. - Squideshi - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 1:20 pm:

    It turned into “if you give me money that doesn’t mean I endorse you. It means you own me.”


  7. - Six Degrees of Separation - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 1:32 pm:

    Vanilla Man said it best.

    Sad!

    The GOP is wanting voters to choose between a guy who has lost millions in office and a guy who has lost millions trying to get in office.

    I think a coin toss ought to do it in this case.

    Carl’s comment about the D’s in the 14th can be expanded a little bit. Laesch has some “grass roots” but would have difficulty selling himself to the majority of voters in the general. Foster probably would have a better shot in the general, but seems to have difficulty getting traction with the likely primary voters.

    As a non-resident of the 14th, it’ll all be fun to watch nonetheless.


  8. - Bill Baar - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 2:37 pm:

    The GOP is wanting voters to choose between a guy who has lost millions in…

    Not lose, just not earn that kind of money out of public service.

    It’s when public service is coupled with enrichment, that voters will have issues.

    If Dems can’t run on Laesch’s solid progressive credentials, and Foster can’ close the deal with the roots, then I think you have to wonder about Obama’s ability to triangulate and pull off the left-center strategy come the general.

    GOP sticks with honest and principled candidates who occassionally let lose about the more lucrative alternatives they could have taken besides crappy public service… I think they’ll be ok in the long run.


  9. - Six Degrees of Separation - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 2:48 pm:

    I appreciate what you’re saying, Bill…but when someone spends a good portion of their life as a public official and then complains about the crappy pay and drawbacks - he could’ve been a “citizen-legislator” and got out after 1 or 2 terms. One might question ones “sanity” or “vanity” in that case. I do agree many people are fed up with politicians enriching themselves (or the perception thereof) by being “in the loop”, and there is some appreciation of a politician being seen as relatively honest.


  10. - Bill Baar - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 3:14 pm:

    six… it wasn’t Lauzen’s greatest moment.

    But when it comes to quirkiness, Lauzen, Laesch, Oberweis, and Foster are on about as level a playing ground as votes can have.

    These are the candidates we’ve got.

    Laesch and Lauzen have the clearest platforms.

    Oberweis has demagogued immigration.

    Foster told me Iraq was issue 1, 2, and 3 but now runs this ad with kids about bickering.

    Politics is how civilized people bicker over issues and policy.

    These quirkly four are the ones delt us in the 14th, and rather than bicker over it…

    …I gotta pick one of them.

    crappy as that is…


  11. - Lefty Lefty - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 3:34 pm:

    As a resident of the 14th, I can honestly say that I have no idea who to choose between Laesch and Foster, and I don’t think the Republicans know who to vote for, either. Ironically, Burns was probably the one with the most vote-drawing power if the millionaires club wasn’t running. (I know, a big “if.”)

    Definitely entertaining to watch, no doubt about that. Did anyone catch the dust-up on Daily Kos between the Laesch and Foster supporters last month?

    It’s like watching The Real World only with lives and tax dollars at stake.


  12. - Bill Baar - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 3:53 pm:

    …I have no idea who to choose between Laesch and Foster…

    A few months ago in an interview Foster said Iraq was issue 1, 2, and 3 in the campaign.

    Laesch I disagree with on Iraq, but he talked about it.

    After telling me its the most important issue, Foster gives me this goofy bickering ad instead.

    It wouldn’t be a hard choice for me to pick between them.


  13. - Six Degrees of Separation - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 4:08 pm:

    As a resident of the 14th, I can honestly say that I have no idea who to choose between Laesch and Foster, and I don’t think the Republicans know who to vote for, either.

    Could there be an undervote in the Special Primary? (joke)


  14. - Bill Baar - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 4:31 pm:

    Could there be an undervote in the Special Primary? (joke)

    People could not cast a vote there, but only the primary.

    Jotham Stein (who I omitted above) made a pitch for GOP voters to vote for him in the special.

    So you can have people voting one way in the special and another in the primary.

    A very weird race thanks to Hastert quitting.

    Here’s Stein’s website by the way.


  15. - Lefty Lefty - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 4:40 pm:

    I just watched the Foster “Bickering” ad. These people need to hire my wife to make iMovies for them. They’d be way more effective and much cheaper.

    Only 4 weeks to go. It may come down to who doesn’t screw up as much as the other guy in that time (on both sides).


  16. - Tiger Moth - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 4:48 pm:

    I disagree with some of the comments that Lauzen is more clear on issues. Based on mailers received in my area of the district Oberweis is much more clear and detailed on his approach to issues and Lauzen’s have been primarily on how great his family is and his past experience without a lot of meat into the how he will deal with issues. That is equally true with seeing them in person at events. As for the negative campaigning, there too I disagree. Asking a campaign to answer questions about issues that have arised that can be looked upon questionable to that candidate’s ethics need to asked. After all the voters of this great state are trying to improve our government and we need to hold our politicans to higher standards.


  17. - Six Degrees of Separation - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 5:21 pm:

    Could there be an undervote in the Special Primary? (joke)

    People could not cast a vote there, but only the primary.

    The joke being of course that the interim 14th Rep is the only race on the Special Primary ballot. In the regular primaries, people can skip the vote for 14th Rep and it can be identified as an undervote for that race when all the results are tallied. In the Special Primary, if someone pulled a ballot and turned it in blank as a “protest” I’m not sure if it would be counted as an undervote or simply not counted at all.


  18. - annon - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 5:51 pm:

    when is oby going to “man-up”& realize he lose this race too. gezzz ! Ob….no one wants you


  19. - state worker - Monday, Jan 7, 08 @ 8:26 pm:

    Both of these guys are like children. One keeps trying to buy a seat in any office and the other is as out of touch as you can be. It’s not even a choice between these two.


  20. - Wumpus - Tuesday, Jan 8, 08 @ 9:05 am:

    Bi-Polarweis ™ and over the top are two things I never thought I’d hear coupled in an article!


  21. - Lionel Hutz - Tuesday, Jan 8, 08 @ 4:32 pm:

    Kevin Burns might have done himself a short-term favor by dropping out of the GOP primary, but it now is clear that he was by far the best choice. Lauzen and Oberweis are willing to do and say anything to get elected. Lord knows what they’ll do after the election. But if they keep embarrassing themselves as much as they are now, we’ll all be so very sorry. I don’t think either one of them cares as much about public service as he does about adding a title to his resume.
    Kevin, can you PLEASE get back on the ballot?


  22. - llbear - Wednesday, Jan 9, 08 @ 12:57 pm:

    I have seen the new Bill Foster ads. I checked to make sure this is correct: John Laesch’s people did not produce them, did not write the scripts, and did not film them. Laesch’s campaign had nothing to do with the postcards being sent out with Foster’s name on them.

    Foster hired some homeless folks from Aurora to deliver material for him. Kudos for that. Unfortunately, they all know John from his volunteer work at the shelter in Aurora, and like him a whole lot. They volunteer for John, but get paid by Bill.


  23. - Touchdown - Wednesday, Jan 9, 08 @ 2:44 pm:

    Lauzen’s attack mailer (came in yesterday’s snail mail) was both hysterically funny and typical of Lauzen. These two belong on a Village Board, not in Congress. More and more it appears that Burns was the only choice for 14th District voters.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Patrick Fitzgerald talks about his future
* Question of the day
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY: UPDATE TO MEDICAID STORY
* Medicaid votes, budget battles and a very big cut
* Retirement age may not be raised
* Get Illinois Working Again
* This one might just break the mold
* A smart move undermined by a petulant boyfriend
* Revised SB 678 Expected To Save Ratepayers $437.7 Million, Includes Low Rate Caps For All Customers
* Morning Shorts
* *** LIVE SESSION COVERAGE ***
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Supplement to today’s edition and a campaign and Statehouse roundup
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 97th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 97th General Assembly By Keyword


Categories
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

* The Game Mechanics of Customer Loyalty
* Pyle Home PTCD8US Retro Style Turntable
* Google working on “Events” and “Local” features for Google+? [Rumor]
* Tech Has Transformed How We Find Missing Children
* Samsung Galaxy One Windows 8 Tablet
* Shelly Palmer chats with Ernie Anastos and Dari Alexander on Fox 5 News at 10 about Facebook Camera
* Apple’s fuel cell facility officially approved by the North Carolina Utilities Commission

  
* Best Buy Leak Shows Canadian Galaxy S III Launch on June 20th
* In-App Ads: Balancing the Needs of Advertisers and Publishers
* Canadian Galaxy S III launch tipped for June 20th
* Wirefly Memorial Day Sale Offers Extra $25 Discount On HTC One S
* AT&T HTC One X Bootloader Unlocked!
* 30 Tegra 3 Devices Slated To Launch This Year, Almost Half As Budget Devices
* Are Any Of These Nokia Windows Phone Device Codenames Real?

* BR_WhiteSox: http://t.co/yNvnlx1o - Power Surge: Sox outslug Twins for..
* White Sox pick up Humber with 5 home runs
* BR_WhiteSox: http://t.co/2jLNK1qk - Rapid Reaction: White Sox 11, Twin..
* BR_WhiteSox: http://t.co/yNvnlx1o - Sox reliever Nate Jones joins CTL:..
* De Aza's slam helps White Sox outslug Twins
* BR_WhiteSox: http://t.co/yNvnlx1o - Snoop Dogg throws out first pitch:..
* BR_WhiteSox: http://t.co/pBtbx5K8 - Peavy pitches with a purpose: htt..


May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog-Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

   
Loading


* Who speaks for the disabled? - Chicago Tribune..
* Illinois Legislature passes $1.6 billion in Medica....
* Illinois Speaker Madigan: Pension changes won't fo....
* Illinois lawmakers slash health care for the poor ....
* Illinois House passes gambling expansion bill - KS....
* Co. says Chicago parking tab totals $49.5M - Unite....


* Ill. lawmakers slash health care for the poor
* Madigan: Retirement age won't be raised to 67
* Speculation now switches to Fitzgerald successor
* High court Oks lawsuit on fraudulent relationship
* Illinois residents react to vote on Medicaid
* Illinois plastic recycling plan fails in House
* FBI: $10K reward for tips on bride slaying suspect
* US Attorney Fitzgerald talks about resignation
* About 100 graves vandalized at Pekin cemetery
* Illinois lawmakers inch toward Medicaid cuts

* State Senate approves fee on strip clubs
* Eavesdropping bill stalls
* Medicaid package moving through legislature
* Money for former death row inmate in budget bill
* Local unemployment at three-year low in April
* Illinois House plan would hike license fees for parks
* U.S. Attorney Fitzgerald talks life after Chicago
* Quinn says he can't support gambling expansion bill
* In My View: Adequate funding for schools is a must
* Quick-take legislation for proposed highway passed

* Medicaid cuts come with catch
* Fitzgerald says it's time to step down, rules out run for elected office
* Illinois eavesdropping reform bill in political limbo
* Video: Senate Budget Debate
* IL House approves gambling expansion bill
* Budget debate: Follow us on Twitter for live updates
* U.S. attorney Patrick Fitzgerald stepping down

* Theravance licenses antibiotic tech to Hospira
* Aurora OKs electricity contract with Ohio company
* Caterpillar snags $776 million construction equipment deal
* Citadel lost $30 million in Facebook fiasco: source
* CFTC sues ex-Chicago broker, alleging Ponzi scheme


* Divers rescue two from lake, third still missing
* Bears’ Lovie Smith and wife champion Misericordia
* State Senate passes $3 strip club tax
* Illinois House passes bill to cut $1.6 billion from Medicaid
* Melrose Park cops blistered in lawsuit
* Another $2 tax for Illinois license plates proposed
* Could drivers be able to pay their way out of traffic congestion?
* Truck driver killed when semi crashes into Calumet City house
* Cook County looking to cash in by selling naming rights
* Switching problem fixed, residual delays on CTA possible in Loop


* Former cop sentenced in charity theft case
* Crews battle fire in Northwest Side apartment building
* Trains running in Loop slowed after switching problem, track fire
* Illinois legislature passes deep health care cuts
* Drew Peterson prosecutors seek to limit email use by lawyers in case
* Reagan Tollway shut west of Sugar Grove for crash with serious injuries
* Crews search for person in lake on Far North Side after 2 pulled from water
* Illinois House passes deep health care cuts
* Strip club tax passes Illinois Senate
* Man gets 15 years in attack by his mother that left teen dead in Elgin


* House Rejects Bag Recycling, Environmentalists Praise Decision
* State To Pay Former Death Row Inmate
* Pilsen’s Plaza Tenochtitlan to get a facelift
* Chairman of Sun-Times parent company: ‘Not buying the Tribune’
* University of Illinois fundraising efforts brings in $2.5 billion
* Chicago gets $22 million bill from parking meter company
* Thousands of Chicago teachers rally downtown
* U.S. Attorney Fitzgerald to talk about life after Chicago
* JP Morgan: 'I just don't know how this happened'
* Worldview 5.24.12

* Poll: City residents don't want speed cameras - Chicago Tribune
* Cook County hunts for private money - Chicago Tribune
* Illinois Legislature passes $1.6 billion in Medicaid cuts - Chicago Tribune
* All not lost in Cubs’ fight for help - Arlington Heights Daily Herald
* Sun-Times owner: 'We're not buying the Trib'


* Eavesdropping bill stalls
* Fitzgerald rules out political future
* No arrest in mobile home park incident
* Medicaid package moving through legislature
* Mobile home park entrances reopened
* Money for former death row inmate in budget bill
* Sangamon County deputy indicted in plant thefts
* Ex-Southern View police officer indicted
* Local unemployment at three-year low in April
* Ex-Southern View officer indicted


* Illinois House, Senate OK big Medicaid cuts
* Cook County could get Medicaid reprieve
* Gambling proponents looking for votes to override Quinn
* Batavia woman can't be sued over steamy online hoax
* Talk turns to Fitzgerald's successor


* Victorino, Galvis have 3 RBIs, Phillies beat Cards
* Eavesdropping bill stalls in state Senate
* Class 1A track notebook: Warriors set state mark in 800 relay
* Vonachen returns as Chiefs celebrate 10th anniversary of O’Brien with a 4-3 victory
* Schroeder, Sages breeze into medal contention
* Bales delivers in bunches for Chargers
* Bulldogs gain confidence
* Spartans squeeze out 'tough' win
* In Friday's Journal Star
* White Sox pound Twins 11-8

* Schilling says jobs potential exists - Galesb..
* Plans to allow small firms to sack employees ..
* Pentagon restricts F-22 flights, safety a con..
* Morrissey: Finally, good news on casino bill ..
* Opinion: Religious Freedom Not The Core Issue..
* Legislating the Refugee Problem - Daily Beast
* Minneapolis News and Weather KMSP FOX 9Politi..
* Away from presidential race's glare, battles ..
* POLITICS: Freshmen vowing change spent millio..
* Independent candidate asks Dem, GOP rivals fo..

* US senators penalise Pakistan for jailing doc.....
* US cuts Pakistan aid over jailing CIA helper .....
* Senate approves FDA bill allowing quicker acc.....
* Speculation now switches to Fitzgerald succes.....
* Fitzgerald humbly bows out - Chicago Tribune...

* Senate Committee Cuts Pakistan Aid for Convic.....
* Senate panel slashes Pakistan aid over convic.....
* Panel Votes To Cut Pakistan Aid by $33M - Myf.....
* Senate committee cuts Pakistan aid over convi.....
* Senate committee cuts Pakistan aid over convi.....

* High-Class Look For The Former "Buy Low"
* Journal Star whores out it news coverage as it promotes corporate, chair restaurants at the expense of LOCALLY OWNED eateries
* I think we chose the wrong place for Blogger Bash …
* Nellcôte (Chicago): Rising star wine director Jason Wagner takes guests on a cruise around the Mediterranean coast
* Why Congress Needs to Renew Clean Energy Subsidies
* Robert Blagojevich Wants His Reputation Back
* New Morgan CTA Station Officially Opens
* Emanuel: New CTA Station Will Accelerate Growth
* It looks like it will hit the fan in the next twenty-four.
* It’s so: Joe offers health perks


* Major Medicaid Reform Approved, Gov. Will Sign
* UPDATE: Strip club surcharge measure passes Senate, heads to the House for concurrence vote
* Illinois' metro areas show continued unemployment declines
* Senate, House Black Caucus members express concern with potential Medicaid cuts
* IDOT Suspends Non-Emergency Road Work to Improve Traffic Flow During Holiday Weekend - Agency Details Lane Closures to Aid Motorists’ Travel Plans

Header Photo...
Wayne Bretl


Hosted by MCS    SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version    Contact Rich Miller