SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Even more unsolicited advice

Tuesday, Mar 31, 2009

* Dear major media,

Why do you listen to this guy?

“What Quinn hasn’t revealed is that the state is getting more than $11 billion in stimulus money, so that covers the alleged deficit. If he would raise the income tax $4 billion a year, that would give him $20 billion a year in new revenue,” added [president of the National Taxpayers United of Illinois, Jim Tobin].

Tobin says the money will likely just go to pad the pension pockets of retired state workers.

That’s so ludicrous on so many levels that I won’t even touch it. And not one person was quoted to shoot down these claims? Suddenly, I feel like banging my head against a wall.

* Dear Gov. Quinn,

Leaking stories to Michael Sneed means you’re putting your message in her hands, and you may not love the outcome

To wit: Although Quinn will not dress up as an Easter Bunny, Sneed hears he will read stories to disabled kids searching for 1,000 plastic Easter eggs on the grounds of the governor’s mansion on April 11.

Sweet idea. Not-so-wonderful visual of Quinn as the Easter Bunny, however. You’d think after the “Will the new state police director attend the police academy?” piece, Quinn would’ve learned something.

- Posted by Rich Miller        


28 Comments
  1. - Wow - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 2:27 pm:

    We go from a governor who surrounded himself with people who knew the system so well that were able to take corruption to a whole new definition. Now we have a Governor who is so clueless to how the system works that I am embarrassed for him.


  2. - Pot calling kettle - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 2:43 pm:

    How about changing their name to National United Taxpayers of Illinois or NUTI…


  3. - lincolnlover - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 2:46 pm:

    This guy is a total idiot! Pad the pockets of retired state workers? Hello, Stupid! IT SHOULD GO TO THE PENSION PLANS! That’s about what the state has borrowed from these retired workers over the past 10 years. You are right Rich. Why do they listen to this guy?


  4. - Concerned Observer - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 2:49 pm:

    Just wanted to say, I think every day should have an Unsolicited Advice post.


  5. - DC - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 2:54 pm:

    Tobin might as well have said the sky was purple. Both statements are just as accurate. Did WBBM fire everyone who studied journalism? This is very sad. Even an intern should know better.


  6. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 2:59 pm:

    So what’s going on here, are we seeing attempts to make anti-tax voters look insane? If Tobin really was opposed to Quinn’s budget, he should let informed individuals present why the Governor’s budget needs to be rejected, and get off the stage. Moron.


  7. - Baines 4 Prez - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 3:03 pm:

    Tobin means well, but he’s a Libertarian fanatic, and that makes things like conventional logic fail to exist within his universe. But hey, that’s the media’s job right, to get all sides & present them without comment, even if some of the ideas espoused are beyond ludicrous? That’s what passes for journalism these days.


  8. - Sacks Romana - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 3:12 pm:

    Tobin has proved himself so willingly ill-informed for so many years, that I can’t believe anyone listens to him. Despite not being responsible for screwing up our state, I throw him in the same boat with Blagojevich, as people who refuse to live in the real world when it comes to public policy. They like retreating to their childish philosophies and ignoring real problems.

    I like Quinn’s proposal OK, but would trade increased exemptions for property tax relief and education funding. Either way, the most encouraging thing about it, is that Quinn at least proposed a budget for adults to consider, and they seem to be considering it. Some form of tax increase is almost certain to go through, and we can hope that we get the most out of the increase.


  9. - Secret Square - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 3:14 pm:

    Tobin believes (this is an exact quote from one of his more recent talks) that people who work for the state “should be the first to suffer” from budget cuts. His attitude toward state employees makes Cassandra look like a cheerleader for AFSCME.


  10. - Scooby - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 3:15 pm:

    Come on, be fair, a lot of people think $11 billion + $4 billion = $20 billion.


  11. - downstate hack - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 3:24 pm:

    A wacky quote Yes, but a grain on truth. Some maybe not a lot of the stimulus package funds can help balance the State budget. It may not over 10% of the deficit, but 10% of $11 billion is not pocket change. It should enter in to the budget debate just not by Tobin.


  12. - Sacks Romana - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 3:25 pm:

    Not to even mention that it would be a one time stimulus amount of $11 billion that would somehow equate to $20 billion in new revenue PER YEAR.

    This calls for some Onion humor:

    LIBERTARIAN RELUCTANTLY CALLS FIRE DEPARTMENT

    After attempting to contain a living-room blaze started by a cigarette, card-carrying Libertarian Trent Jacobs reluctantly called the Cheyenne Fire Department Monday. “Although the community would do better to rely on an efficient, free-market fire-fighting service, the fact is that expensive, unnecessary public fire departments do exist,” Jacobs said. “Also, my house was burning down.” Jacobs did not offer to pay firefighters for their service.


  13. - Phineas J. Whoopee - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 3:27 pm:

    Sneedless to say, the world could have done without the Easter Quinn visual.

    I have to go into the memory banks, but I believe Tobin came to prominence during the Harold Washington years. The Mayor raised taxes, white folks got angry and Tobin rode the wave. He has been writing incomprehensible tax opinion and begging for money ever since.

    If politicians raised taxes as often as this guy asks for donations, Tobin would really have something to write about.


  14. - Secret Square - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 3:44 pm:

    Here’s an interesting blast from the past: a 1990 Illinois Issues article on Tobin which compares him to Pat Quinn (then a candidate for state treasurer)

    http://www.lib.niu.edu/1990/ii900829.html


  15. - Ghost - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 4:04 pm:

    I would think the Sneed piece would make Quinn very hoppy.


  16. - Commonsense in Illinois - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 4:17 pm:

    Oh, what a mental image…Pat Quinn in a bunny suit taking notes from ideas given him by a 4-year old.


  17. - sal-says - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 4:21 pm:

    “You’d think after the “Will the new state police director attend the police academy?” piece, Quinn would’ve learned something.”

    Quinn may be the most earnest, honest politician alive, but he seems not to have learned a lot about politics in his 30+ years. Keeping Filan & who knows who else from Fmr. IL Gov Goofy (FIGG).


  18. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 4:46 pm:

    Quinn in a Bunny Suit?

    Sounds like a song!

    Here comes Pat who cannot fail
    Hoppin’ down the campaign trail,
    Hippity hoppity,
    Da’ Election on its way

    Makin’ promises he’s enjoyed
    A Budgetful to keep employed
    Things to make his Election
    Bright and gay

    He’s got cash for Mayor Richie
    Enough to fill those huge kettles -
    There’s an squad car for Lil’ Monken
    When he’s old enough to reach the pedals! Oh!

    Here comes Quinn who wants reform
    Hoppin’ against the political norm,
    Hippity hoppity,
    Da’ Election on its way

    Quinn in charge, Blago’s off to jail
    Perp walkin’ as he tells his tale
    On WLS - listen to him say,

    “I tried to do the things I should!”
    “I tried to be so extra good!”
    “I’m gone now so you’re really gonna pay!”

    We’ll wake up on early morn
    Angry - ticked off - frizzled hair
    When we find Democratic taxes
    That they’re hiding ev’rywhere,
    Oh!

    There’ goes Governor Patrick Quinn
    Who discovered he can’t really win
    When he raised our taxes
    Before Election Day.


  19. - Balance - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 4:51 pm:

    While Tobin’s math is wacky, the concept still is relevant.

    Illinois is receiving new, one-time federal money, most of which is intended to fill in for revenue shortfalls caused by the recession (including a big chunk for education).

    Also, some of the stimulus money is for new construction projects, which should reduce the amount of new revenue necessary for Quinn’s capital plan.

    Has the federal money been entered into the equation in Quinn’s budget proposal?


  20. - Jake from ? - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 4:56 pm:

    Thank you Secret Square for the Tobin indoctrination. Something tells me that a fellow like this probably has framed this piece for the wall.


  21. - George - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 5:17 pm:

    “Has the federal money been entered into the equation in Quinn’s budget proposal?

    Quinn closes about 30% of the deficit with federal stimulus money.

    See a good summary here.

    And federal money for capital projects does not downsize the state capital bill at all. The state capital bill is just the required matching funds to get the federal money for the vast majority of the projects (Illinois comes up with $10 billion, gets additional $15 billion in federal and local match).


  22. - MrJM - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 6:29 pm:

    “disabled kids searching for 1,000 plastic Easter eggs on the grounds of the governor’s mansion” paints a cruel, cruel picture.


  23. - Princess - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 7:13 pm:

    Well, MrJM, I don’t think so, but then, to each their own. I think it’s a very nice way to welcome activities back to the mansion. And disabled kids? Super cool. How many egg hunts on very other corner are basically non-disabled kids and charge a rather high entry fee? And as for Quinn with bunny ears? That might be pushing it but I would not be surprised if some of his young extended family members are around to bring life and cheerfulness to what has been a pretty empty cold place of the last 6/7 years. All children desire to have a chance to have a bit of fun and I admire Gov. Quinn for doing this.


  24. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 7:28 pm:

    Tobin gets a pass on TV, too. Same with Dan Miller (used to be at Crains and Sun-Times). They spout numbers and no one has the knowledge, background, savvy or institutional memory to challenge them. Shoddy.


  25. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 7:38 pm:

    Dear Lord Black:

    The Sun-Times in its bankruptcy filing reveals that it owes the IRS $608 million due to your devious and unscrupulous business practices. Please put aside 50% of your earnings from the prison laundry to help cover this shortfall.

    Dear Gov. Thompson:

    The next time you’re chair of the Audit Committee of a public company, put on your glasses and find a quiet spot to read the reports.


  26. - Steve Downstate - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 9:04 pm:

    Don’t quite understand why anyone would think it’s inappropriate or undignified for a governor to read stories to kids (any kids) at an Easter egg hunt. If only the last guy would have been content to engage in such wholesome activities.


  27. - Quinn T. Sential - Tuesday, Mar 31, 09 @ 10:04 pm:

    {Suddenly, I feel like banging my head against a wall.}

    I am thinking maybe it was the Sambuca


  28. - Lynn S - Wednesday, Apr 1, 09 @ 12:08 am:

    Sambuca? Where? Why aren’t you sharing it with the rest of us?? ;-)


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Afternoon updates
* GOP immigration unity at rally
* *** UPDATED 1x *** Patronage buster back at it; Rauner robos get cold reception
* Not yet
* Question of the Day
* REAL Peoria mayor defends Twitter raid
* Noland lone "No" vote on Madigan for DPI chair
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * AT&T 4G LTE now available for “nearly” 280 million people
        * New Galaxy K pics show full-fledged optical zoom lens
        * 5 Tips for Improving Your Ecommerce Revenues
        * Instagram Diverges From Vine By Personalizing Explore Tab
        * Google Glass marketing head discusses the $1,500 price tag
        * Google working on ‘Stars’, could debut at I/O 2014
        * Vonage ReachMe Roaming routes calls to eliminate international charges

        * Microsoft brings remote PC control to Windows Phone 8.1
        * Japan Display Develops 10-Inch 4K Tablet Screens
        * Study: Hacker Attacks on Websites Up 75 Percent in Q3 2014
        * Apple Patches Security Flaws for iOS, Mac and AirPort Extreme
        * Microsoft Adds Remote Desktop App Preview to Windows Phone 8.1
        * Ads are the new black: AOL starts streaming classic Miramax movies
        * How I Work: Jimmy Soni, Managing Editor of the Huffington Post

        * White Sox injury updates: Chris Sale, Conor Gillaspie, Adam Eaton a...
        * Rienzo tasked with slowing Detroit's powerful lineup
        * Leesman endures short outing in first start
        * Tigers 8, White Sox 6: Turning a mismatch into a game
        * Leesman endures short outing in first start
        * Ventura not basing decisions solely on pitch count
        * Gillaspie sits out with sore left hand


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Patronage allegations give Quinn challenger fodder..
        * Patronage allegations give Rauner fodder in rac.....
        * FEMA's disaster decisions frustrate state, loca.....
        * Is 2014 the year self-funders strike back? Maybe...
        * Veteran watchdog's lawsuit seeks probe of Quinn.....
        * 10 Governors Races to Watch in 2014..
        * Quinn taken to court over patronage hiring at IDOT..


        * Bill would get Illinois police cruisers on road
        * Ex-ISU president pleads not guilty to misdemeanor
        * Patronage allegations give Quinn challenger fodder
        * Infectious TB patient jailed in central Illinois
        * Gacy case helps solve unrelated Chicago area death
        * Peoria mayor defends response to Twitter account
        * Hundreds of cases of pig virus reported in Ill.
        * East Peoria infant's death ruled a homicide
        * Hearing for Air Force staffer in pipe bomb case
        * Police: 1 person dies after van slams into CTA bus

        * DNR mining-oversight official fired
        * Patronage allegations give Rauner fodder in race against Quinn
        * Clock ticking for states to adopt health exchanges
        * Madigan re-elected to lead state Democratic party
        * Hastert, other state Republicans supporting immigration reform
        * Lawsuit seeks investigation of hiring under Quinn
        * GOP lawmaker objects to 9-0 vote for Obama library
        * Democrats: Illinois schools could face major cuts
        * State prisons to use costly drug for hepatitis C
        * Illinois Medicaid paying for dead clients

        * Boeing rally drives Dow as Dreamliner jitters ease
        * Housing rebound in U.S. loses steam as prices rise
        * Ex-aide to Todd Stroger gets 6½ years
        * Appeals court ruling looks ominous for pension changes
        * Lawyer wants probe of IDOT hiring under Quinn


        * DNA solves murder of man missing since 1978, mistakenly feared to be Gacy victim
        * Oberweis apologizes as GOP leaders urge action on immigration
        * Ari Emanuel’s stake in ride-share firm raises uber questions
        * DNA solves murder of Northwest Side man missing since 1978
        * Ex-head of suburban religious organization denies sex harassment
        * FBI informant on tape hugging man before shooting him: prosecutors
        * Robo-calls on pension reform bill raise Rauner-Rahm rift
        * Robo-calls raise Rauner-Rahm rift
        * Ari Emanuel’s stake in ride-share firm raises uber questions: Mihalopoulos
        * Vehicle hits Roseland bus stop after police chase, injures 5


        * Prosecutors cleared to use Rep. Smith's admissions at bribery trial
        * Chicago headed toward partial plastic bag ban
        * Chicago headed toward partial plastic bag ban
        * Day care worker in prison for nearly a decade to be freed during appeal
        * Torrez discusses Zion slayings in jailhouse recordings
        * Gacy case helps clear up mystery from 1978
        * Woman held on $150K in accident that injured cops
        * 'Cake Boss' bakes 400-pound Wrigley replica
        * Ex-top aide to Stroger gets 6 1/2 years for theft, money laundering
        * Ex-top aide to Stroger gets 6 1/2 years for theft, money laundering


        * House Holdup On Tax Hike, Minimum Wage
        * Initial Obama Library Vote A "Misunderstanding"
        * Legislator Protests Madigan As Party Chair, Won't Say Why
        * Tax Returns Revealing ... But Not Revealing Enough
        * Quinn Releases Tax Returns; Rauner's Waiting
        * Illinois Senate Joins Push For U.S. Constitutional Convention
        * Quinn Signs Law Intended To Lower Cost Of Auto Leasing
        * Mayors' group pushes for Illinois pension reform
        * Two don't-miss events this Wednesday
        * Illinois Medicaid Paying For The Dead


        * Bill would get state police cruisers on road
        * Patronage allegations give Rauner fodder in race against Quinn
        * Our Opinion: Top Teen making Springfield a better place
        * Our Opinion: Computer lab a boost for the homeless
        * Lawsuit seeks investigation of hiring under Quinn
        * Madigan re-elected to lead state Democratic party
        * Madigan: 'Misunderstanding' on Obama library vote
        * Hastert, other state Republicans supporting immigration reform
        * Audit: Treasurer's office has 30 guns not given to police
        * State audit: Police training money misspent


        * (No heading)
        * Board members: Enterprise Zone contributes to flooding
        * Peoria mayor defends response to Twitter account
        * Banks pleads not guilty to murder
        * Hundreds of cases of pig virus reported in Illinois
        * Infectious TB patient jailed in central Illinois
        * Missing Belleville boy found safely in East St. Louis with mom
        * Dozen agencies participate in terrorist drill
        * Arbuckle gets 100 years for Stanley murder
        * Couple charged with sexually assaulting teen after giving her drugs, alcohol


        * The 10th District money race
        * Aurora Democrat calls out IHSA
        * Lawyers: Ill. hazing law vague, unconstitutional
        * Ill. House OKs lower-cost hunting bill for seniors
        * Quinn’s running mate takes new consulting job

        * Congressman to host art show at Tarble - D...
        * Shimkus tours EIU Renewable Energy Center ...
        * Nuke advocate attacks Obama - Reno News & ...
        * Grant puts AEDs in Clark County - Paris Be...
        * Congressman's staff in Neoga today - Journ...
        * Congressman to visit Renewable Energy Cent...
        * Shimkus Honors 100th Anniversary of Heath ...
        * Congressman to visit with constituents in ...
        * IRS Tax Breaks Available for Disaster Vict...
        * Shimkus accepting Congressinal Art entries...

        * Loading Koch Industries Website Too Many T......
        * Maryland and DC among worst for food aller......
        * Cleveland State University to reestablish ......
        * Convicted political boss Al Sanchez runnin......
        * Candidates make last filings for local, st......

        * Illinois Lt. Gov. Simon opposes pension le......
        * Dillard Odd Man Out on Pension Deal Reaction...
        * Sen. Mark Kirk sides with Rauner on pensio......
        * Governor's race infighting threatens pensi......
        * SCHOONERS - Home of Everyone's Favorite Be......

        * Uptown/Edgewater Mariano's Opens, And We've Got The Pictures To Prove It
        * Gutierrez calls on House Republicans to vote on immigration reform [video]
        * Despite the spin, State Central Committee elections fail to vindicate Pat Brady
        * Cracking The Chicagoland Code 7: We Don't Care How They Do It In New York
        * Job Market For College Grads Better But Still Weak
        * US Weighs Curbing Deportations
        * Reading the Tea Party Leaves
        * Rogen Operative
        * Speakers At Chicago Board of Education Meeting
        * Chicago Board of Education


        * Governor Quinn Proclaims “Wrigley Field Day” - Home of the Chicago Cubs Turns 100 Years Old Today
        * Governor Quinn Promotes Welcome Home Illinois Program at Annual Affordable Housing Conference - Addresses Industry Leaders on State’s Improving Housing Market and New Program for First-Time Homebuyers
        * IEMA Encourages Participation in ‘America’s PrepareAthon!’ on April 30 - First National Day of Action Expected to Draw Millions of Participants
        * Redeploy Illinois Program Diverts Thousands of Youth From Prison System, Saves State $60 Million - New analysis of prison diversion initiative shows 54 percent reduction in juvenile incarceration
        * Illinois EPA Recognized for 40 Year of Graduate Public Service Internship Partnership with University of Illinois at Springfield - Agency Internship Programs Help Students Gain Real-World Knowledge of Environmental Protection and Regulations




            Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller