SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Quinn dodges and weaves but threatens veto again - Cross explains a strange Quinn demand ***Updated multiple times with video***

Tuesday, Jun 30, 2009

* 4:56 pm - Gov Quinn, speaking to reporters, just repeated his vow to veto a partial budget.

“Partial budgets are not what adults do.”

The guv did say he didn’t think a temporary budget was going to happen.

But Quinn ducked and dodged and would not directly say he wouuld veto a budget without a tax hike even when asked several times.

Quinn also dodged a direct question about a special session, if any and about when he absolutely had to have a budget to avoid a shutdown.

“I don’t want to talk about tomorrow until we finish today.”

We’ll have video later.

Tom Cross’ pressed is soon.

* 5:14 pm - Cross wouldn’t say yet whether he would support an override of any budget veto, saying he hadn’t had a chance to speak with his caucus.

*** Cross just said the guv has asked that a budget extension for 30 days be based on Quinn’s introduced level - which would assume revenues for a tax hike. Amazing.


* 5:45 pm -
Here are Leader Cross’s comments on the 30-day budget extension…


* 6:00 pm - Leader Radogno held a press availability and, among other things, discussed the lack of agreement regarding a 30-day budget as well as the true size of the budget deficit. Watch…


* 6:13 pm - For your viewing pleasure, here is the entire presser with Leader Cross…


* 6:33 pm - Here is video of all of Leader Radogno’s comments from the presser…


* 7:11 pm - As promised, here is some video from the press availability Quinn held earlier today. The video is only of the Q & A portion of the presser and is broken into 2 parts. Part 2 is still uploading to YouTube, but here is part 1…


* 7:48 pm - Sorry for the delay, we are having some problems with the internet in the Capitol. Here is part 2 of the Q & A from Quinn’s presser…


- Posted by Rich Miller        


26 Comments
  1. - George - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:11 pm:

    It seems like Cullerton and Madigan were putting the slow roll on Quinn for the month of June to try and force him to accept this budget. All the while, Quinn thought he would make headway.

    Vetoing it is the right thing to do. It ain’t your budget, don’t let anyone tie you to it.


  2. - A Citizen - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:13 pm:

    Note to Mayor Davlin of Springfield - To solve your budget deficit, temporarily (until the legislature finishes) raise taxes at all hotels, motels and restaurants and bars 25% or more. It’ll be a real money maker and solve Springfield’s shortfall mighty quickly!


  3. - CircularFiringSquad - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:19 pm:

    Is it true Quinn to get worker paid by his campaign committee into the house chamber with a video camera to tape the governor’s jabber…sounds like a repeat of the staffer selling “policy meetings” for 15K a crack just before the end of May.
    Yeah put those political issues aside


  4. - cicero - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:25 pm:

    Why wouldn’t the Repubs support a veto override? That way there’s no tax hike and they get out of town.


  5. - Louis Howe - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:31 pm:

    Quinn maybe the most descent Gov since Adlai Stevenson, however, he has greatly underestimated dealing with Madigan and company. He has relied on a staff with very little practical legislative experience and it shows. Insiders with experience have described him as naïve. It’s High Noon in Springfield. Perhaps he will rise to the challenge.


  6. - 815Sox - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:32 pm:

    - Cicero -

    Then they would have to assume that they may end up taking the blame from the cuts that would have to follow.

    This is going to go on for awhile, things aren’t looking good.


  7. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:34 pm:

    If Quinn wanted to play games, he could sign the budget bills and treat them like a 12-month plan, with the massive cuts that would entail.

    He could then barnstorm the state and say “After six months, this is what the GA has seen fit to provide for the operations of Illinois government. I’ll do the best I can with it, but it’s their budget. Complaints can be directed to your local representative and senator.”


  8. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:37 pm:

    I don’t think Quinn’s one-month budget is any goofier than the 4 Tops one month budget. They’re both absurd.


  9. - Crazy - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:40 pm:

    What’s with these last 2 Gov’s??? Is there some strange water they drink once they become Gov and it makes them delusional and shrinks their brain or what


  10. - A Citizen - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:44 pm:

    - Crazy -
    It is obvious - Exguv and Q are dems. The ones prior to that when government worked were Republicans. Now you know what is needed to fix this mess.


  11. - 815Sox - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:55 pm:

    “He could then barnstorm the state and say “After six months, this is what the GA has seen fit to provide for the operations of Illinois government. I’ll do the best I can with it, but it’s their budget. Complaints can be directed to your local representative and senator.””

    I could see this happening, however don’t you think this whole mess has kinda shook him up. Many are placing the blame on him almost exclusively.


  12. - 815Sox - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 5:58 pm:

    “The ones prior to that when government worked were Republicans.”

    Yeah its not like the last Republican gov is sitting in prison or anything.


  13. - My Opinion - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 6:00 pm:

    PENSION OB FAILED SENATE. Jesus. . .


  14. - Heartsick - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 6:01 pm:

    I’ve just seen notification to providers from the DHS - Division of Mental Health proceeding with the Doomsday budget cuts outlined by the Governor. Tomorrow begins the dismantling of the community human service system. Who would ever have thought we would find ourselves here.


  15. - grategul - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 6:02 pm:

    Where all the good individuals who supported

    GOOD OLD GOV. Rod

    YOU don’t Hear anything from them do you???

    Where is Jay Hoffman ????

    A LEADER for his Party ?????

    Where are all the VOTERS who
    supported these No TELL THE TRUTH FAKERS

    NO BACKBONE / ONLY ROB YOU THE TAXPAYERS !!!!

    WAKE up AND VOTE THEM TO THE STREET !!!

    SOON !!!!! 2010 is Coming Soon !!!!

    OH let’s blame it on someone Else

    typical liberal style !!!!!


  16. - My Opinion - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 6:04 pm:

    Typical liberal style? What in the world are the repubs doing? They have a say now. . . where are they?


  17. - Cassandra - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 6:17 pm:

    I think it’s Quinn not the legislators of either party who will take the heat on a prolonged budget crisis. If he insists on an unpopular (except among those dependent on state tax revenues for their daily bread) income tax increase and refuses to consider alternatives, or even to clarify his (ever-changing) figures on the size of the deficit, he’ll be the villain. Most people rather like their local legislators, after all. Quinn could increasingly seem remote and, well, kind of crazy, a caricature flailing away up there saying raise, taxes, raise taxes…in a recession, no less.


  18. - A Citizen - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 6:31 pm:

    Time to stock up on beer, snacks and BBQ stuff - It’s gonna be a looooong hot summer here in central city!


  19. - Bill - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 7:00 pm:

    ==Quinn maybe the most descent Gov since Adlai Stevenson==
    Right and he is even less effective. Politics ain’t beanbag. Nice guys finish last.


  20. - Capitol View - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 7:16 pm:

    a one month budget is a mess for the Comptroller’s Office, with all the contracts per line item to authorize.

    And human services at FY 09 levels will have to give two weeks notice again halfway through the month. More treatment of human services providers like pawns in the midst of political games by state officials who have forgotten their responsibilities as managers of state government and the needs of state agency vulnerable clients.


  21. - Anon - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 7:28 pm:

    I wish someone would have asked the Senate Republicans if they had supported the FY08 budget at the time - my guess is no.


  22. - Loop Lady - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 8:10 pm:

    Cassandra: You are SO annoying. Please go away.


  23. - fed up - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 8:11 pm:

    Does Quinn even know how bid this so called deficit is. he comes up with differnt figures all the time. Until he is going to be honest and actually show what the number is he cant be trusted he seems to be very similar to Blago lately. I had high hopes for Quinn but he is over his head and sinking fast.


  24. - get him out - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 8:56 pm:

    Let George Ryan out, He was the only governor in the last 10 years that could get these to parties to agree on anything!!!!!!!!!!!!


  25. - PalosParkBob - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 9:21 pm:

    If they had a plan like Medicaid eligibility reduction back to 185% of poverty level, ending costly and valueless prevailing wage mandates, consolidating those 1780 state programs to end duplication and redundancy, reforming state labor law to prevent governments from committing to raises and benefit increases they can’t afford, and reforming the pension program so that the state contributions are affordable and fair, and they just needed time to work out the details and implement the plan, the 30 day period makes sense.

    If it’s just to give Madigan, Cullerton and Quinn another 30 days of playing “chicken”, it’s just another waste of time.


  26. - Obama's Puppy - Tuesday, Jun 30, 09 @ 11:28 pm:

    Governor agrees to a Pension Task Force and then asks for a vote on 2 tier. The flip flopping is hard to keep track of.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Final thoughts before calling it a night
* *** UPDATED x2 - Script *** Quinn airs radio ad of Rauner joking about being "scared" of four African-Americans
* Karen Lewis endorses Chuy Garcia for mayor
* Friday night TV ad rating
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Proft responds to HRO
* Quinn, Rauner head downstate
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - HRO responds to Proft
* Emptying out my in-box
* Vast Majority of Illinois Voters Support Renewable Energy, Energy Efficiency
* Inducement or just a party?
* Question of the day
* UPDATE: $580 MILLION EXELON RATE HIKE?? Do They Really Need a Bailout After Making Nearly $1 BILLION In The Last 90 Days?
* Very late Rauner oppo
* *** UPDATED x2 *** And speaking of abortion...
* GOP defends Rauner on "employer-provided birth control"
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Friday morning fundraising report
* It's not anything new, but that doesn't make it Kosher
* Polling averages, models, projections, etc.
* Today's number: $3.5 million
* Rauner makes "Top 10" robocall list
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Cable TV buy report and a spending update
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * Roku adds Google Play Movies & TV to its feature list
        * Minuum iOS update picks up new languages, advanced settings (Giveaway)
        * A final word from Taylor Martin
        * Battleheart Legacy signals Mika Mobile’s return to Android
        * AT&T and Verizon Boost Monthly Wireless Data in Ongoing Competition
        * Smash Champs lets you become a legendary trainer
        * Poynt pad tries to be all-in-one payment system for business

        * Trent Reznor working with Apple on secret music project
        * Samsung Galaxy A5 and A3 phones try to capture young people's attention
        * Updated Office For Mac Arriving In 2015, Outlook Updated In The Meantime
        * iFixit Debunks iPhone 6 Plus Reinforcement Claims
        * Jony Ive: Apple Watch Tougher Project Than The iPhone
        * Google’s “Copresence” Feature Could Allow Seamless Cross-Platform Communication
        * Trent Reznor Working On Secret Music Project At Apple

        * Fall Stars Game filled to brim with talent
        * White Sox opt to decline Paulino's '15 option
        * White Sox have flexibility to pursue multiple upgrades
        * White Sox offseason plan roundup: Third base
        * Minnie Miñoso belongs in the Hall of Fame
        * Development of young core in '15 can define Chicago's future
        * Abreu leads White Sox GIBBY hopefuls with five noms


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        October 2014
        September 2014
        August 2014
        July 2014
        June 2014
        May 2014
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Final weekend of campaigning for Pat Quinn, Bru.....
        * Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn, GOP's Bruce Rauner enc.....
        * Other Voices: Candidates should educate voters,.....
        * Tokyo Thrills the Global Stock Markets..
        * Illinois governor's race still a close call..
        * Quinn, Rauner talk jobs, early voting Friday..


        * Lake Michigan waves slam Chicago lakeshore
        * Creator of Operation couldn't afford own operation
        * Union backs county commissioner for Chicago mayor
        * Judge won't close hearing in Islamic State case
        * Lake Michigan waves slam Chicago lakeshore
        * Wallenda ready for windy Chicago tightrope walks
        * Woman charged with defrauding Illinois couple
        * Quinn, Rauner talk jobs, early voting Friday
        * Judge won't close hearing in Islamic State case
        * Cook County Jail guard faces theft charge

        * State contribution to TRS to increase by $300 million next year
        * Former Gov. Edgar to campaign with Rauner
        * Attorney general seeks clarifications from Topinka’s former nonprofit
        * Inmate freed from Jacksonville prison in landmark Illinois case
        * Cross opposes income tax hike extension
        * Gay marriage, abortion issues take back seat in governor’s race
        * Madigan’s office seeks clarifications from former Topinka nonprofit
        * Cross says no to income tax hike extension, sales tax on services
        * Gay marriage, abortion issues take backseat in governor’s race
        * Illinois inmate freed in landmark capital punishment case

        * SEC examines Caterpillar's accounting for Bucyrus
        * Cubs hire Maddon as manager, fire Renteria
        * A stormy Lake Michigan swamps Lake Shore Drive – and sinks Chicago's mood
        * A stormy Lake Michigan swamps Lake Shore Drive — and sinks Chicago's mood
        * Chicago Marathon champion fails doping test, agent says


        * Garcia: I'm a serious mayoral candidate, not just a protest vote
        * A higher standard of criminal justice
        * Ex-Northwestern doctor to pay $475K to settle fraud claims
        * Sad day  when  Catholic  schools  close
        * Chicago bead merchant Ronnie Klein, whose Loop business drew stars, dead at 65
        * Chicago bead merchant Ronnie Klein, whose Loop business drew stars, dead at 65
        * Durbin, Oberweis square off for final time
        * State’s attorney investigating alderman’s prize offer to voters
        * Face it: Animator has found a great way to pass time on his commute
        * Refund those unfair yellow-light tickets


        * Karen Lewis endorses Garcia for mayor in new video
        * 3 injured, 1 fatally, in shootings
        * Missing Garfield Ridge man located
        * Trial to begin for Darien man charged in 2012 killing
        * Alleged victims of ex-Wilmette teacher share memories online
        * New rules make Illinois voting easier
        * Federal judge refuses government request to close terrorism hearing
        * Emanuel's top attorney: Watchdog had no right to sue
        * Cops release photos in robbery and attack of police sergeant
        * Cops warn of armed robberies at South Side businesses


        * Scary Story: St. Michael And Mr. Pyles By H.W. Devlin
        * Dodging DUIs: Secretary of State Candidates Faceoff
        * Cook County posting indigent burials in 'virtual cemetery'
        * Whom do you trust when it comes to nutrition advice?
        * Zombie barge sinking in storm at Navy Pier
        * The digital afterlife
        * Making Buildings Healthier From The Inside Out
        * Scary Story: Planes By Ted Morrissey
        * Listen to State Week - October 31, 2014
        * "Monster Mash" Celebrates Halloween With Classical Music


        * E.J. Dionne: Moderate thunder out of Kansas
        * Charles Krauthammer: A referendum on competence
        * Quote of the Day: Nov. 1
        * State contribution to TRS to increase by $300 million next year
        * Former Gov. Edgar to campaign with Rauner
        * Esther Cepeda: Elizabeth Pena: Trailblazer on the big screen
        * Andy Shaw: Voter turnout instrumental to reform
        * Ty Fahner: What if the Court rejects pension reform?
        * Attorney general seeks clarifications from Topinka’s former nonprofit
        * Quote of the Day: Friday, Oct. 31


        * Staunton schools report 24 cases of whooping cough
        * HS Soccer 2A Sectional: Danville vs. SHG
        * Quinn, Rauner talk jobs, early voting Friday
        * Baby dead in Beardstown
        * High school football playoff scoreboard, Oct. 31-Nov. 1, 2014
        * Breaking it down: UI-Ohio State
        * SportsTalk 10-31-14
        * Q&A with Mason Monheim
        * Final Word: No surprise, it's O'Toole
        * Tate: Don't look here for an upset


        * Images: Bulls OT loss to Cavaliers
        * Images: DeKalb vs. Marmion football
        * Bulls' Butler will be restricted free agent
        * Lefevre's cold-blooded goal lifts Fremd
        * Liva leaves MSL meet with a record effort

        * Patrick Cannon defense strategy rare but n...
        * Feds fine Jesse Jackson Jr.'s campaign com...
        * Ex-Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. faces sen...
        * Representative Jan Schakowsky Sends Letter...
        * Rep. candidate pushes to uphold marriage b...
        * Reps. Schakowsky and Waxman Introduce Bill...
        * Statement by Representative Jan Schakowsky...
        * U.S. House Passes Resolution Condemning An...
        * FAA Rejects Call For New O'Hare Noise Stud...
        * Representatives Quigley, Duckworth, Schako...

        * Oberweis gearing up to take on Durbin in m......
        * Oberweis gearing up to take on Durbin in m......
        * Oberweis gearing up to take on Durbin in m......
        * Oberweis gearing up to take on Durbin in m......
        * Oberweis gearing up to take on Durbin in m......

        * Sen. Mark Kirk questioned by Triton students...

        * Winds, Waves Close Northbound Lake Shore Drive At Rush Hour
        * Quinn Camp Releases 2-Minute Finale Video Recapping Rauner's 'Greatest Hits'
        * Quinn Camp Releases 2-Minute Finale Video Recapping Rauner's 'Greatest Hits' (VIDEO)
        * Bill O’Reilly: ‘The White Republican Power Structure Is Afraid of Black Americans’
        * Op-Ed: Google Car Could Give The Blind More Independence While Saving Illinois Millions
        * Find the Best Deals at Deals4home
        * Google Car
        * Vallas Criticizes Rauner's Position On Charter Schools, Education Issues
        * Halloween parties in the neighborhood.
        * BPN Safe Trick-or-Treating Cancelled


        * Editorial: Governors, raining taxpayer $ on Illinois
        * Governor Quinn and Mayor Emanuel Thank New Safe Passage Workers - Nearly 700 Additional Workers Hired This Year to Serve 133 Schools, 69,000 Students Across the City
        * Editorial: Rauner best choice as governor to begin to reverse Illinois’ fortunes
        * Quinn to celebrate Rauner’s UI Labs accomplishment
        * Another Democrat Runs Away From Pat Quinn




            Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller