The political ad is “on target” because it focuses on Pat Quinn as “The Man Of The People”. That Quinn is an honest guy is “a given”. But, what Pat Quinn is going to have to try to overcome is that he has yet to come up with any real solutions to the problems (jobs leaving the state, red ink oozing in state budget, Illinois being nation’s “Poster Child” for corruption in government, etc.). That is what Pat Quinn has to overcome. Madigan isn’t being helpful to Quinn’s image as a decent, well-meaning, and inept bumbler who is only where he is through the whims of fate (and corrupt Illinois state politicians). That is what Quinn’s political ads need to address or Dan Hynds is going to continue to portray Pat Quinn as the bumbling twin-brother of the late Jerry Ford. A nice guy but wholly unqualifed for the job that is facing him.
Pat Quinn is already governor. My question isn’t what he did before he became governor, but what he did for all the years he sat as Blagojevich’s Lt. Governor, and what the heck has he done since becoming governor.
This ad would be fine if Quinn wasn’t governor, but he is. Now explain to us why we should elect you based on what you have accomplished, sir!
Nice positive ad. The historical stuff — “fighting big utilities,” “taking on the legislature” — brings credibility to the here and now.
The only quibble I have is on the wind-farm visual. Everyone loves them as a source of “renewable energy” except when they’re in your line of sight. They’re a new NIMBY.
Long foul ball (could have been a home run, but he hooked it). As Vanilla Man points out there is a 26-year gap in what Quinn did “back in the day” and today, which would include the 6+ years he spent at the side of Rod Blagojevich.
What does the average viewer (i.e. voter) take away from this jobs plan, which is supposed to address the biggest issue of the day? The answer is ‘not much’.
I don’t think an unemployed worker is going to be too jazzed about making sure pre-schoolers’ education is improved when they don’t have a job to put food on the table. Same thing goes with the Community College stuff. How many people are thinking, ‘gee, all I have to do to get a job is go to community college’? Not many.
And is this ad running in Chicago? Because the green job visuals (corn fields and windmills) ain’t gonna inspire any hope in me about getting a job if I live up there.
I don’t disagree with the long term benefits of any of the policies, but the message should be all about the ‘fierce urgency of now’. For a guy who spent the last 9 months mimicking the President’s policies & messages, you think he would have learned that.
- Will County Woman - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 9:40 am:
Great ad. He has a history (with photos to prove) of fighting for average people. When people ask what kind of man he is, they need only look at what kind of man he’s been. Actions speak louder than words. I would like to know what Dan Hynes’ historical commercial would look like? Does he have the same proof of consumer activism that the governor has? If not, what has he been doing before he became comptroller 27 years ago?
- Fan of the Game - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 10:17 am:
I don’t have the issue with the time gap between his activism and his governorship. As an ad it works because most voters won’t even think to ask about that discrepancy.
My questions are 1) How is cutting the number of legislators good for us? I know it saves a piddling amount of money, but it also means the ratio of constituents to legislators increased, which makes the legislator farther removed from his/her constituency. 2) Where is he going to get the money to lend to small businesses?
Not only is this ad lame there are a lot of lies in it which is typical of Quinn’s attempts to re-write history. Community colleges are suffering under the Quinn administration and have not received their appropriated funding. Early childhood education has also not been funded at the Blagojevich levels despite over $1 billion in stimulus money for “education”. Quinn spent that money on other things while only raising ed funding by $100 million, 10% of what he received from the Feds for that purpose.
His “cutting” of the legislature has been debated endlessly here and I really don’t think it is something he should be bragging about.
We’ll see what happens with Chrysler but I don’t think Quinn will have much to do with whatever happens.
Quinn has been a lousy governor and the state has never been in worse shape. His ad brings into mind his thirty years of being a loud mouthed malcontent who is all talk and no action.
- Stuck in the Law Library - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 10:36 am:
Good ad. Should have been the first one. Anyone know if it uses footage from that video guy they have traveling around with Quinn? My guess if probably…you don’t have to focus group or see a poll to know that the #1 issue is jobs and the economy. It tells voters that Quinn has a plan and he is out there working on the issue.
- Will County Woman - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 10:39 am:
wow, dan hynes became comptroller 27 years ago??????? i don’t think so.
When people ask what kind of man he is, they need only look at what kind of man he’s been. Actions speak louder than words.—anon
that’s the problem anon. he’s not like he was, and people are having problems reconciling the old quinn, whom they generally liked, with the new quinn that is in many ways a contradiction of his former self, or at least the self that he projected publicly.
problem #2, quinn has said a lot of things this year only to have to take them back or not follow through, so as governor his actions have failed to produce needed/expected results.
intellectually dishonest much…
so, you want illinoisans to forget the past 10 months and pretend like they never happened, and only consider 1978-2008 before he became governor? eventhough his actions over the last 10 months will have an effect on things that happen in 2010 in terms of state government operations and the ability of the state to conduct business, as well as quality of life issues for illinoisans. he is fighting to retain the governor’s office, ya know? he has a record as governor, and it is imperative that it be considered when trying to assess whether or not he should be able to keep the job he currently holds. if you disagree or think this somehow unreasonable, why?
Overall a very good ad. I like positive ads, so I’m biased that way.
One caution for Team Quinn though, using footage of the MAP students could come back to haunt you if the Governor can’t find the money to pay those grants, and especially if next year’s budget is worse. It’s hard to declare victory when there still is no money for the Spring quarter grants.
I thought it was a good ad. I strongly disagree with VM.
Quinn’s history is a strong part of his message and it’s a good ad, remind people who he is. Otherwise he would let Hynes simply define his history as Blago’s guy. Which of course is also true, but the other part of his history is more vote-worthy.
I think these personal story telling types of ads are effective, good way to build up your positive ratings before the attacks come fast and furious.
I thought this was good a B+ or A-, I mark it down because the narrator says Illinoiz in it once. Not good for the natives to hear their state mispronounced.
It’s a pretty positive ad and it doesn’t get into that whole raising taxes flap. It seems to me Hynes and Quinn are evenly matched on that issue, although both will point the finger about who will raise taxes more. Out of 5, I rate this one a four!
It’s warm and fuzzy and probably politically effective.
The substance is based almost entirely on what he did 25-30 years ago; the stuff as governor is very vague.
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- Just wondering - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 8:33 am:
I believe at the 27 sec mark, the 3 in that shot are employees of the Governors staff.
- Justice - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 8:45 am:
Positive, well presented, good representation of citizen’s concerns, accomplishments. I would rate this as one of the better ads I’ve seen.
Nice to see “positive.”
- The Shadow - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 8:46 am:
“I believe at the 27 sec mark, the 3 in that shot are employees of the Governors staff.”
Your beliefs would be mistaken as the final shot in the ad feature two Ford plant employees. The only employee of the Governors staff is the Governor.
- The Prophet - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 8:48 am:
The political ad is “on target” because it focuses on Pat Quinn as “The Man Of The People”. That Quinn is an honest guy is “a given”. But, what Pat Quinn is going to have to try to overcome is that he has yet to come up with any real solutions to the problems (jobs leaving the state, red ink oozing in state budget, Illinois being nation’s “Poster Child” for corruption in government, etc.). That is what Pat Quinn has to overcome. Madigan isn’t being helpful to Quinn’s image as a decent, well-meaning, and inept bumbler who is only where he is through the whims of fate (and corrupt Illinois state politicians). That is what Quinn’s political ads need to address or Dan Hynds is going to continue to portray Pat Quinn as the bumbling twin-brother of the late Jerry Ford. A nice guy but wholly unqualifed for the job that is facing him.
- VanillaMan - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 8:53 am:
Pat Quinn is already governor. My question isn’t what he did before he became governor, but what he did for all the years he sat as Blagojevich’s Lt. Governor, and what the heck has he done since becoming governor.
This ad would be fine if Quinn wasn’t governor, but he is. Now explain to us why we should elect you based on what you have accomplished, sir!
- Holy Cow! - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 8:55 am:
Can Madigan really work with this guy for the next 4 years?
- wordslinger - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 8:55 am:
Nice positive ad. The historical stuff — “fighting big utilities,” “taking on the legislature” — brings credibility to the here and now.
The only quibble I have is on the wind-farm visual. Everyone loves them as a source of “renewable energy” except when they’re in your line of sight. They’re a new NIMBY.
7 of 10.
- Rubbernecker - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 9:34 am:
Long foul ball (could have been a home run, but he hooked it). As Vanilla Man points out there is a 26-year gap in what Quinn did “back in the day” and today, which would include the 6+ years he spent at the side of Rod Blagojevich.
What does the average viewer (i.e. voter) take away from this jobs plan, which is supposed to address the biggest issue of the day? The answer is ‘not much’.
I don’t think an unemployed worker is going to be too jazzed about making sure pre-schoolers’ education is improved when they don’t have a job to put food on the table. Same thing goes with the Community College stuff. How many people are thinking, ‘gee, all I have to do to get a job is go to community college’? Not many.
And is this ad running in Chicago? Because the green job visuals (corn fields and windmills) ain’t gonna inspire any hope in me about getting a job if I live up there.
I don’t disagree with the long term benefits of any of the policies, but the message should be all about the ‘fierce urgency of now’. For a guy who spent the last 9 months mimicking the President’s policies & messages, you think he would have learned that.
- Will County Woman - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 9:40 am:
this ad gets a generous B+
i agree with previous comments.
- Anon - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 9:58 am:
Great ad. He has a history (with photos to prove) of fighting for average people. When people ask what kind of man he is, they need only look at what kind of man he’s been. Actions speak louder than words. I would like to know what Dan Hynes’ historical commercial would look like? Does he have the same proof of consumer activism that the governor has? If not, what has he been doing before he became comptroller 27 years ago?
- Fan of the Game - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 10:17 am:
I don’t have the issue with the time gap between his activism and his governorship. As an ad it works because most voters won’t even think to ask about that discrepancy.
My questions are 1) How is cutting the number of legislators good for us? I know it saves a piddling amount of money, but it also means the ratio of constituents to legislators increased, which makes the legislator farther removed from his/her constituency. 2) Where is he going to get the money to lend to small businesses?
- Plutocrat03 - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 10:22 am:
Nice feel, but the gap between his ‘man of the people” days and today will be exploited by his opposition.
- Tom - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 10:31 am:
Not to divulge any secrets but boy was that ad focused grouped. Every issue polls off the charts. Great tag line as well.
- Bill - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 10:35 am:
Not only is this ad lame there are a lot of lies in it which is typical of Quinn’s attempts to re-write history. Community colleges are suffering under the Quinn administration and have not received their appropriated funding. Early childhood education has also not been funded at the Blagojevich levels despite over $1 billion in stimulus money for “education”. Quinn spent that money on other things while only raising ed funding by $100 million, 10% of what he received from the Feds for that purpose.
His “cutting” of the legislature has been debated endlessly here and I really don’t think it is something he should be bragging about.
We’ll see what happens with Chrysler but I don’t think Quinn will have much to do with whatever happens.
Quinn has been a lousy governor and the state has never been in worse shape. His ad brings into mind his thirty years of being a loud mouthed malcontent who is all talk and no action.
- Stuck in the Law Library - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 10:36 am:
Good ad. Should have been the first one. Anyone know if it uses footage from that video guy they have traveling around with Quinn? My guess if probably…you don’t have to focus group or see a poll to know that the #1 issue is jobs and the economy. It tells voters that Quinn has a plan and he is out there working on the issue.
- Will County Woman - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 10:39 am:
wow, dan hynes became comptroller 27 years ago??????? i don’t think so.
When people ask what kind of man he is, they need only look at what kind of man he’s been. Actions speak louder than words.—anon
that’s the problem anon. he’s not like he was, and people are having problems reconciling the old quinn, whom they generally liked, with the new quinn that is in many ways a contradiction of his former self, or at least the self that he projected publicly.
problem #2, quinn has said a lot of things this year only to have to take them back or not follow through, so as governor his actions have failed to produce needed/expected results.
intellectually dishonest much…
so, you want illinoisans to forget the past 10 months and pretend like they never happened, and only consider 1978-2008 before he became governor? eventhough his actions over the last 10 months will have an effect on things that happen in 2010 in terms of state government operations and the ability of the state to conduct business, as well as quality of life issues for illinoisans. he is fighting to retain the governor’s office, ya know? he has a record as governor, and it is imperative that it be considered when trying to assess whether or not he should be able to keep the job he currently holds. if you disagree or think this somehow unreasonable, why?
- Dirt Digger - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 10:45 am:
Emphasizes that he is really old with the bio montage. Voiceover plays into this with “he is still…”
Positives seem good enough individually but are kind of scattershot. Jobs, education, renewable energy, small biz…a lot to take out of thirty seconds.
- DCM - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 11:00 am:
Finally, a positive ad from Hynes or Quinn.
- Anon - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 11:05 am:
What’s with the girl with the beer gut.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 11:20 am:
Overall a very good ad. I like positive ads, so I’m biased that way.
One caution for Team Quinn though, using footage of the MAP students could come back to haunt you if the Governor can’t find the money to pay those grants, and especially if next year’s budget is worse. It’s hard to declare victory when there still is no money for the Spring quarter grants.
- downstate hick - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 11:29 am:
An Okay ad, but ties to the past are not necessarily the way to go given our last two Governors. I rate a it a C+.
- siriusly - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 12:18 pm:
I thought it was a good ad. I strongly disagree with VM.
Quinn’s history is a strong part of his message and it’s a good ad, remind people who he is. Otherwise he would let Hynes simply define his history as Blago’s guy. Which of course is also true, but the other part of his history is more vote-worthy.
I think these personal story telling types of ads are effective, good way to build up your positive ratings before the attacks come fast and furious.
- Ghost - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 12:23 pm:
As a political add it is right on target, good tone, imagery etc. It is perfect for the sound bite universe of typical voters
- Third Generation Chicago Native - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 1:25 pm:
I thought this was good a B+ or A-, I mark it down because the narrator says Illinoiz in it once. Not good for the natives to hear their state mispronounced.
- Levois - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 1:56 pm:
It’s a pretty positive ad and it doesn’t get into that whole raising taxes flap. It seems to me Hynes and Quinn are evenly matched on that issue, although both will point the finger about who will raise taxes more. Out of 5, I rate this one a four!
- Rambler - Monday, Nov 16, 09 @ 3:56 pm:
It’s warm and fuzzy and probably politically effective.
The substance is based almost entirely on what he did 25-30 years ago; the stuff as governor is very vague.
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