SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Winnebago County wants to be reimbursed for too-wide ballots

Friday, Mar 23, 2012

* Winnebago’s county clerk wants some compensation from ABS Graphics, which cut the county’s paper ballots just a tad too big. 25 Illinois counties had similar problems. In Winnebago, 36 percent of 23,400 ballots cast were too wide to fit into the machines. The county clerk then decided to “reballot,” instead of trimming the ballots with scissor or counting by hand

In Winnebago County, the problem kept dozens of people working past midnight on Election Day to remake ballots by hand. The tedious work of filling in small ovals with black markers picked up again at 9 a.m. Wednesday, lasting until around 11 p.m. All ballots weren’t counted until after midnight.

More on how the process worked

Charles Laskonis, as head of the Winnebago County Democratic Central Committee, was called to bring a team of Democrats in for reballoting. A crew of Republicans also was assembled. But state Senate candidates Marla Wilson and Steve Stadelman questioned Laskonis’ presence because he had supported their opponent, Dan Lewandowski. They also objected to the appearance of attorney John Nelson, who was present as an observer, because he represented objectors who tried to have them removed from the ballot.

Mullins responded by allowing representatives of each candidate into the third-floor room of the county administration building, where reballoting was sequestered from candidates and reporters’ cameras.

“We’re all sitting there and (Mullins) said, ‘Anybody in the room who worked on a campaign put your hand up,’ and everybody put their hand up,” said Laskonis, who said the large majority of the ballots he handled were Republican.

The Election Day tension and political posturing subsided as everyone got to work filling out newly made ballots. Ballot makers took an oath to uphold the integrity of the election, then a Democrat and Republican were paired across from each other to begin reballoting. In most cases, when a Democratic ballot needed to be remade, the Republican handled it first and vice versa, said Terri Knight, Harlem Township supervisor who worked on Election Day reballoting.

After the ballot was remade by one person, the other checked. Both initialed their work. Identical numbers were given to both original oversized ballots and their new, smaller counterparts. That allows candidates who question whether a ballot was properly remade to do a side-by-side comparison.

* So, how did this problem happen? From the Tribune

“It was an issue in the trimming of the ballots,” said Ken Griffin, managing partner at Liberty Systems LLC, one of two ballot vendors who use the same Addison printing company to produce ballots. “The knives they use to cut the ballots as they come off the press were just a little out of tolerance. If you saw it, you wouldn’t believe it was enough to cause a problem. We are thinking this warm weather might have had something to do with it too.

“It’s traumatic for all of us, because we want everything to go as smoothly as it can from the very start,” Griffin said at about 3:30 p.m. Tuesday. “But we believe we have it under control.”

* More from the front

Vermilion County Clerk Lynn Foster said 56 of her 59 precincts experience the problem.

Foster said she grabbed “every paper cutter I could get my hands on and we have spent all day catching up. We also discovered that if we used ballots from the bottom of the stack they worked better. They come in these shrink wrapped packages so I just told everybody to flip them over and use ballots from the bottom.”

She said she expected as many as 600 ballots had to be sliced.

* And it’s just a good thing Tuesday wasn’t a general election, or officials would’ve been swamped

“I wouldn’t say we’re happy about it, but it would have been a whole lot worse in a general election,” said McDonough County Clerk Gretchen DeJaynes, whose staff used hair dryers on some moist ballots.

“We had 27 percent turnout,” she said. “In November, in a presidential year, we will have over 60 percent.”

How many ballots were faulty was unknown, Borgsmiller said.

But in Macoupin County alone, about 6,000 of the 7,496, ballots cast did not fit in the scanning machines, Duncan said. DeJaynes said there were problems with a couple thousand ballots in McDonough County.

- Posted by Rich Miller        


5 Comments
  1. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Friday, Mar 23, 12 @ 12:14 pm:

    I’d like to know who sold us scanners with feeders that were not adjustable…unlike every printer, photocopier, and scanner I’ve ever seen on the shelf.


  2. - JN - Friday, Mar 23, 12 @ 12:31 pm:

    YDD might have it right. Every specification has tolerances, and the fault falls to whichever party either exceeded those tolerances or failed to define the tolerances in the first place.


  3. - wordslinger - Friday, Mar 23, 12 @ 12:32 pm:

    –We are thinking this warm weather might have had something to do with it too.–

    Say what? The best early spring of our lives, and you dump on it?


  4. - OneMan - Friday, Mar 23, 12 @ 1:07 pm:

    If you look at the ‘bad’ ballots, they were really really close to being in tollerance (at least in Aurora), you can see the line that the ‘boundary’ is defined by (it was in a corner) and the paper was just wide. It wasn’t that they would not fit in the machine, it would read it then reject it for being to wide. So I think if it is anyone’s fault it is the printers


  5. - Judgment Day - Friday, Mar 23, 12 @ 1:27 pm:

    “I’d like to know who sold us scanners with feeders that were not adjustable…unlike every printer, photocopier, and scanner I’ve ever seen on the shelf.”

    Here’s the problem with doing that (not a bad idea, actually) - Most of the scanning stations (Accuvote, etc.) for processing ballots are designed using ATM type technology, and what would be normal variables/tolerances on printers, scanners, etc. are specific “no-go” on voting machines (just like on ATM’s).

    You always protect against potential outside (external) manipulation of the hardware, and the best way is mandating extremely tight tolerances. Normally that’s a very good thing, but in this case it reached up & bit us.

    If I were Winnebago, I wouldn’t scream too loud. They have got enough of their own issues, and there’s been more than a few times where vendors have bailed them out of situations where the County had nobody to blame but themselves.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* It's not as clear as it looks
* Exelon Tells Wall Street Its Illinois Plants Make Money So Why Is It Still Asking Springfield For A Bailout??
* EIU warns that stopgap won't be nearly enough
* Today's lede
* Question of the day
* Fun with numbers
* Nuclear Energy: Keeping the Lights on for Illinois’ Businesses
* Poll: 54 percent disapprove of Rauner in 99th House District
* Keep Fantasy Sports in Illinois
* Why the hostages sued
* Remap reform proposal crashes and burns in subcommittee
* CTU proposes concrete revenue plan
* *** UPDATED x1 - Trump last year: "I hear very good things about him" *** Trump never heard of Rauner?
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* *** LIVE *** Session Coverage
* Good morning!
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

  
* Android Pay update could bring loyalty and gift cards to tap and pay
* Sean Parker’s Airtime acquires WebRTC video chat wizards vLine
* Launcher lets you create iOS widgets that display or hide based on day, time or location
* YouTube VP Matt Glotzbach graduates to CEO role at Quizlet
* Chinese HTC 10 pre-orders total 251, customers feel cheated on specs
* Razer might start developing its own smartphone, rumor says
* [Deal] T-Mobile offering $150 rebate on 2015 Samsung phones

* Eaton appreciative of mother's love, guidance
* Terrerobytes: John Danks bids farewell as DFA day arrives
* Abreu's early homer can't hold off Red Sox
* Rodon tips cap to Ortiz after tough loss
* Abreu's early homer can't hold off Red Sox
* Johnson gets call for rubber match with Red Sox
* Abreu's early homer can't hold off Red Sox

...............


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0
WordPress

Loading


* Rauner has misgivings on Lucas Museum at McCorm.....
* IL Gov. Rauner honors current corrections offic.....
* Graduated tax amendment won't be on November ba.....
* Madigan muzzles Illinoisans on term limits - Ch.....


* Illinois GOP lawmakers want auditor spending answers
* Du Quoin State Fair officials create vendor payment program
* Springfield university breaks ground on student union
* Cook County medical examiner resigns after remaking office
* 2 Illinois state parks reopen after donor pays electric bill
* EXCHANGE: Welding and manufacturing students build résumés
* Chicago officer in McDonald case wants protection at court
* Illinois eagle hit by gunshot might fly again after surgery
* Man who authorities say was texting in fatal crash sentenced
* Illinois State planetarium hosting transit of Mercury event

* Event showcases Illinois students' history research
* Illinois GOP lawmakers want campaign spending answers from Auditor General Frank Mautino
* Du Quoin State Fair officials create vendor payment program
* 2 Illinois state parks reopen after donor pays electric bill
* After Hastert sentencing, Illinois weighs change to child sex abuse law
* Heroin epidemic demands new approach, Springfield-area officials say
* Statehouse roundup: House remap amendment dies in Senate committee
* Sponsor shelves graduated income tax proposal; Rauner blamed for lack of votes
* Illinois service agencies sue Rauner for $100M past due
* Heroin epidemic demands new approach, officials say

* Humana, like rivals, may exit Obamacare exchanges
* Weber-Stephen sues competitor in fight over three-legged grills
* Weber grills maker sues competitor in three-legged case
* Sears to close historic Ravenswood store
* Advocate Medical Group names new leader


* Let special prosecutor handle Van Dyke case
* No bond for man charged with fatal Back of the Yards shooting
* Second man charged in shooting of off-duty CPD officer in March
* Petricka placed on 15-day DL; Kahnle called up from Charlotte
* Writers Theatre opens studio with parody of sacred theater cows
* Friday Letters: Losing Lucas Museum would be a mistake
* Cubs’ success all the better when not on your dime
* Robert Reich: A way to end ‘no-lose socialism’ for the rich
* Man gets 6 years for driving drunk in fatal 2014 Dan Ryan crash
* Chicago soul great Reggie Torian dies; falsetto heir to Mayfield


* Turkey's last shreds of balance are disappearing
* Self-confessed killer, `the punisher,' shakes up Philippine race
* Hebron leader facing drug charges now also at risk of losing home
* Rauner has misgivings on Lucas Museum at McCormick Place
* House Speaker Paul Ryan refuses to back Donald Trump
* Son of Mass. chief justice pleads not guilty to Northwestern chapel vandalism charges
* Emanuel: Teachers union tax ideas not an answer for school funding
* Pirates' Gerrit Cole scolded for bad behavior at Penguins game
* Inmate sues over beating in Cook County Jail caught on video
* CEO of Claire's Stores resigns


* Illinois Senate passes $454 million more for colleges
* Event showcases Illinois students' history research
* Illinois GOP lawmakers want campaign spending answers from Auditor General Frank Mautino
* Du Quoin State Fair officials create vendor payment program
* 2 Illinois state parks reopen after donor pays electric bill
* Bernard Schoenburg: Union-commissioned poll shows support for arbitration
* After Hastert sentencing, Illinois weighs change to child sex abuse law
* Heroin epidemic demands new approach, Springfield-area officials say
* Statehouse roundup: House remap amendment dies in Senate committee
* Sponsor shelves graduated income tax proposal; Rauner blamed for lack of votes


* House Speaker Paul Ryan refuses to back Donald Trump
* Asmussen: Fitzgerald works his way up
* FDA will require e-cigarettes and contents to be reviewed
* Man pleads guilty to attempted murder, sentenced to 12 years, in April 1 attack
* May 12 Ask the Sports Editor chat
* May 12 prep sports chat
* May 11 Illinois basketball chat
* May 9 Bob Asmussen chat
* No charges against man in fight with father-in-law
* Man charged with felony in cannabis case


* The Latest: House Speaker Paul Ryan refuses to back Trump
* Sears Hometown 'store-within-a-store' gains momentum
* Schaumburg Township hosts rummage sale, donation drive
* Des Plaines' Apache Park to be rededicated Saturday
* Hawthorn Woods school, church observes National Day of Prayer

* House lawmakers overcome hurdle on key tra...
* Rodney Davis talks funding with Bloomingto...
* The agency that fought Illiana gets a new ...
* Rep. Dold takes educational cruise down Ch...
* Lawmakers decry high turnover rate of VA h...
* CBD Oil, and politics
* Simon considering state Senate bid
* Killer Congressman Tom MacArthur trying to...
* Shutdown? State may not notice
* Rep. Bob Dold

* Senator Durbin Corrects the Record on Gitm......
* Durbin to meet with NGA director on St. Lo......

* U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin: There are compellin......

* Cartoon of the Day - 5/4/16 - Trump presumptive GOP nominee
* Alvarez Recuses Herself From McDonald Case
* Taxpayer-funded financial aid for immigrant college tuition heads to IL House
* Speaker Ryan not ready to support Trump
* Alderman Burke's law firm pushes to get Trump property tax refund
* Lawmakers call once again for Auditor General to explain campaign expenditures
* Former Dunkin' Donuts Franchise Workers, Allies Rally Against Alleged Wage Theft
* Ventra
* Congratulations to 2016 Integrated Behavioral Health Interns
* Glennon: $12 billion sits unused with Illinois Treasurer. Why?


* Emergency Management Officials, National Weather Service Encourage Winter Preparedness - November is Winter Weather Preparedness Month in Illinois
* Keep Your Family Safe This Winter - November through February are leading months for carbon monoxide related incidents
* Governor Takes Bill Action
* Illinois Department of Labor Director Hugo Chaviano Awards Governor’s Award for Contributions in Health and Safety to the Illinois Refining Division of Marathon Petroleum Company LP
* State Regulator Elected Treasurer of Interstate Medical Licensure Compact




Hosted by MCS -- CapitolFax.com Privacy Policy -- SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax -- Advertise Here -- Mobile Version -- Contact Rich Miller