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		<title>by: Oswego Willy</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210787</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey, - ArchPundit -, was this what you were talking about?

===- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 21, 12 @ 4:47 pm: 

===So Willy, is it better for you for him to win and have so much material or lose and have so much material the next time he runs? ===
 
That is like asking which REAL Plummer quote is the most priceless …
 
Win - I get all the Freshman jokes, all the “fit-in” jokes …
 
Lose - I get the family/Dad/money jokes, the akward HS or College rejection jokes …
 
Hopefully we all win till November and take it from there … don’t make me choose.===

I will indeed see how it shakes out, but I stand by the post I made in response to ya on March 21st. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, - ArchPundit -, was this what you were talking about?</p>
<p>===- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 21, 12 @ 4:47 pm: </p>
<p>===So Willy, is it better for you for him to win and have so much material or lose and have so much material the next time he runs? ===</p>
<p>That is like asking which REAL Plummer quote is the most priceless …</p>
<p>Win - I get all the Freshman jokes, all the “fit-in” jokes …</p>
<p>Lose - I get the family/Dad/money jokes, the akward HS or College rejection jokes …</p>
<p>Hopefully we all win till November and take it from there … don’t make me choose.===</p>
<p>I will indeed see how it shakes out, but I stand by the post I made in response to ya on March 21st. </p>
<p>Fair?
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		<title>by: Oswego Willy</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210781</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I would say the 13th Ward Committeeman is an Elite, - Wordslinger -, but I guess is "That's the list" closing on MJM tell the story of IL &#38; IL politics?

Guess that's rhetorical?

- anonymous -, you &#38; I are All Good on my end, no doubt. I enjoy the back &#38; forth with much respect for you on my side, for sure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say the 13th Ward Committeeman is an Elite, - Wordslinger -, but I guess is &#8220;That&#8217;s the list&#8221; closing on MJM tell the story of IL &amp; IL politics?</p>
<p>Guess that&#8217;s rhetorical?</p>
<p>- anonymous -, you &amp; I are All Good on my end, no doubt. I enjoy the back &amp; forth with much respect for you on my side, for sure
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		<title>by: wordslinger</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210779</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>=I don’t even know what passes for an “elite” in IL politics.=

I'd imagine there's a guy who lives in a house in which Southwest Airlines wheels scrape the roof every one in a while might make the list.

You don't land at Midway, you live through a controlled crash.  Wave to the folks at the Baby Doll Polka Club on takeoff/landing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=I don’t even know what passes for an “elite” in IL politics.=</p>
<p>I&#8217;d imagine there&#8217;s a guy who lives in a house in which Southwest Airlines wheels scrape the roof every one in a while might make the list.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t land at Midway, you live through a controlled crash.  Wave to the folks at the Baby Doll Polka Club on takeoff/landing.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210766</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No apology necessary, Willy.  I apologize for misunderstanding your questions/comments and therefore jumping to an inaccurate assumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No apology necessary, Willy.  I apologize for misunderstanding your questions/comments and therefore jumping to an inaccurate assumption.
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		<title>by: Oswego Willy</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210765</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>===Have I perhaps offended, Willy,...===

Not in the slightest! Nope. If you thought you did, I apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>===Have I perhaps offended, Willy,&#8230;===</p>
<p>Not in the slightest! Nope. If you thought you did, I apologize.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210762</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210762</guid>
					<description>=Meaning … who is an “elite”… not just great=

Have I perhaps offended, Willy, by using the term "elite?"  Is it too exclusive?  Perhaps only appropriate for e.g., military contexts (e.g., Navy Seals)?  

If so, please consider forgiving me.  I believe the term "elite" can apply to those who are good at doing "bad" things, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=Meaning … who is an “elite”… not just great=</p>
<p>Have I perhaps offended, Willy, by using the term &#8220;elite?&#8221;  Is it too exclusive?  Perhaps only appropriate for e.g., military contexts (e.g., Navy Seals)?  </p>
<p>If so, please consider forgiving me.  I believe the term &#8220;elite&#8221; can apply to those who are good at doing &#8220;bad&#8221; things, as well.
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		<title>by: Oswego Willy</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210757</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210757</guid>
					<description>Nope ... just continuing it as well ... 

And although it is safe to say I was not around during the Bill Thompson / Bathhoust Coughlin "era" ... you may be suprised what ANY of us have lived through ... just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope &#8230; just continuing it as well &#8230; </p>
<p>And although it is safe to say I was not around during the Bill Thompson / Bathhoust Coughlin &#8220;era&#8221; &#8230; you may be suprised what ANY of us have lived through &#8230; just a thought.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210755</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm not taking the bait, Willy.  No one's perfect.  I'm just continuing the discussion too obvious started regarding "lickspittles" and comparing today's practices to those of a time you probably didn't even live through.  Do you have an issue with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not taking the bait, Willy.  No one&#8217;s perfect.  I&#8217;m just continuing the discussion too obvious started regarding &#8220;lickspittles&#8221; and comparing today&#8217;s practices to those of a time you probably didn&#8217;t even live through.  Do you have an issue with that?
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		<title>by: Oswego Willy</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210754</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210754</guid>
					<description>===There are many great ones … but who is on your list? ===

Meaning ... who is an "elite"... not just great</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>===There are many great ones … but who is on your list? ===</p>
<p>Meaning &#8230; who is an &#8220;elite&#8221;&#8230; not just great
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		<title>by: Oswego Willy</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210753</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210753</guid>
					<description>Got a list?

There are many great ones ... but who is on your list?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a list?</p>
<p>There are many great ones &#8230; but who is on your list?
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210752</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210752</guid>
					<description>=GREAT statement … I dunno either …what does pass as “elite”?=

Ethical public servants, maybe?  Those who were respected for their strength and honor and were committed to serving their State and Country.  Those who were more confident about getting re-elected for their accomplishments v. media saavy and campaign strategies.  It was always a "smallish" group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=GREAT statement … I dunno either …what does pass as “elite”?=</p>
<p>Ethical public servants, maybe?  Those who were respected for their strength and honor and were committed to serving their State and Country.  Those who were more confident about getting re-elected for their accomplishments v. media saavy and campaign strategies.  It was always a &#8220;smallish&#8221; group.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/09/is-gill-losing-ground/#comment-11210748</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>=I don’t even know what passes for an “elite” in IL politics.=

Exactly. Those days are long gone.  Thank goodness for increasing numbers of lickspittles with special interests.  Otherwise, the actors would no longer have an audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=I don’t even know what passes for an “elite” in IL politics.=</p>
<p>Exactly. Those days are long gone.  Thank goodness for increasing numbers of lickspittles with special interests.  Otherwise, the actors would no longer have an audience.
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