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		<title>by: amalia</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215956</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>away, so missed, this, but it's John ARAVOSIS, and he is the real story in this.....if he has someone in his sights, it's usually really big trouble.   he specializes in exposing those who vote one way and live another.   he's done it many times before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>away, so missed, this, but it&#8217;s John ARAVOSIS, and he is the real story in this&#8230;..if he has someone in his sights, it&#8217;s usually really big trouble.   he specializes in exposing those who vote one way and live another.   he&#8217;s done it many times before.
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		<title>by: GA Watcher</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215945</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>BTW, the "Maroons" opened their season with a 20-6 win over Beloit College.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the &#8220;Maroons&#8221; opened their season with a 20-6 win over Beloit College.
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		<title>by: wordslinger</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215830</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>--You see if I say I am not in favor it is because I am a bigot or homophobe.--

I'm not sure what you're trying to say there, cousin, but if you can find anywhere I accused Catholics of being bigots or homophobes, I'll buy you a cigar. 

But, I will give you a little advice. No matter how much you want to believe it, no one in authority, and I mean no one, speaks for everyone who self-identifies in all situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;You see if I say I am not in favor it is because I am a bigot or homophobe.&#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re trying to say there, cousin, but if you can find anywhere I accused Catholics of being bigots or homophobes, I&#8217;ll buy you a cigar. </p>
<p>But, I will give you a little advice. No matter how much you want to believe it, no one in authority, and I mean no one, speaks for everyone who self-identifies in all situations.
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		<title>by: K3</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215826</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't care what their sexual orientation is, but I think they should be up front about it. I just don't get why they think they have to hide it. Wouldn't effect my vote one bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care what their sexual orientation is, but I think they should be up front about it. I just don&#8217;t get why they think they have to hide it. Wouldn&#8217;t effect my vote one bit.
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		<title>by: soccermom</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215816</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As a proud Maroon, I take umbrage at that remark, sir!</description>
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		<title>by: Pot calling kettle</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215812</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I find it interesting that Eaton would ask the question and then expect someone to come out to her first.  I think the issue is mostly one for the GOP primary.  It would be very hypocritical for a Democrat to "go there" since equal treatment regardless of sexual orientation has become a party touchstone.  Even conservative Dems realize this and most left the issue of an opponent's sexuality behind years ago.

And "orientation" is the preferred term (as opposed to "preference"). One's sexual orientation is not considered to be a choice or preference but an inherent characteristic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that Eaton would ask the question and then expect someone to come out to her first.  I think the issue is mostly one for the GOP primary.  It would be very hypocritical for a Democrat to &#8220;go there&#8221; since equal treatment regardless of sexual orientation has become a party touchstone.  Even conservative Dems realize this and most left the issue of an opponent&#8217;s sexuality behind years ago.</p>
<p>And &#8220;orientation&#8221; is the preferred term (as opposed to &#8220;preference&#8221;). One&#8217;s sexual orientation is not considered to be a choice or preference but an inherent characteristic.
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		<title>by: Lakeview</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215811</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I do not care who people sleep with. I do care about hypocrisy.

I'll bet good money that Illinois has had plenty of gay people holding various offices over the last 150 or whatever years, but no one knew because they didn't talk about it and they didn't behave in ways that made them hypocritical. That's why it's a bigger issue for Schock than for Rutherford. That's all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not care who people sleep with. I do care about hypocrisy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet good money that Illinois has had plenty of gay people holding various offices over the last 150 or whatever years, but no one knew because they didn&#8217;t talk about it and they didn&#8217;t behave in ways that made them hypocritical. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s a bigger issue for Schock than for Rutherford. That&#8217;s all.
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		<title>by: Sgtstu</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215808</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Rich, you are starting to sound like Mike Madigan. I am God and I say it will be this way or else !! Settle down will ya ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich, you are starting to sound like Mike Madigan. I am God and I say it will be this way or else !! Settle down will ya ?
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		<title>by: Votecounter</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215803</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wordslinger
I believe I do have to defend being Catholic and the church's and my position on Marriage. You see if I say I am not in favor it is because I am a bigot or homophobe. 
 I could care less what anyone does in their bedroom or the lifestyle they choose to live unless you ask me to agree. Then I have the obligation to be truthful. Catholicism is not a new religion it is 2012 years old yet if I state my views I am maligned and called names. I am happy this forum has approached this subject. Governor is not just another office it is the head of the party. The GOP is a conservative party in Illinois more now than ever, the fighting that has been going on since Peter Fitzgerald has been between the old moderate GOP and the ones they call wingnuts (WN) conservatives. The old guard cannot have the WN gain control of the party because they don't play politics and don't like compromise. The Republican platform states it is pro life, and pro traditional marriage so it does matter to the GOP primary voter how someone votes on those subjects. As for the people in question I will take them at their word but cab still judge them by how they vote on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wordslinger<br />
I believe I do have to defend being Catholic and the church&#8217;s and my position on Marriage. You see if I say I am not in favor it is because I am a bigot or homophobe.<br />
 I could care less what anyone does in their bedroom or the lifestyle they choose to live unless you ask me to agree. Then I have the obligation to be truthful. Catholicism is not a new religion it is 2012 years old yet if I state my views I am maligned and called names. I am happy this forum has approached this subject. Governor is not just another office it is the head of the party. The GOP is a conservative party in Illinois more now than ever, the fighting that has been going on since Peter Fitzgerald has been between the old moderate GOP and the ones they call wingnuts (WN) conservatives. The old guard cannot have the WN gain control of the party because they don&#8217;t play politics and don&#8217;t like compromise. The Republican platform states it is pro life, and pro traditional marriage so it does matter to the GOP primary voter how someone votes on those subjects. As for the people in question I will take them at their word but cab still judge them by how they vote on the issue.
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		<title>by: wordslinger</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215796</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>--We are still avoiding the question of electability, although Word is starting to come at it. 25 years from now, it won’t matter. But in 2014, can rumors (true or not) sink a Republican candidate’s chances given our downstate conservatism and our upstate liberalism? --

Dude, if these childish and prurient whispering campaigns could sink a Republican's statewide or congressional electability, Jack Roeser would have kept a few GOPers out of office by now, for more than one term. 

C'mon man, how can you deal in this stuff? This is where the conservatives say "mind your own business."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;We are still avoiding the question of electability, although Word is starting to come at it. 25 years from now, it won’t matter. But in 2014, can rumors (true or not) sink a Republican candidate’s chances given our downstate conservatism and our upstate liberalism? &#8211;</p>
<p>Dude, if these childish and prurient whispering campaigns could sink a Republican&#8217;s statewide or congressional electability, Jack Roeser would have kept a few GOPers out of office by now, for more than one term. </p>
<p>C&#8217;mon man, how can you deal in this stuff? This is where the conservatives say &#8220;mind your own business.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Democratic Yoda</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215795</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am a very liberal &#38; progressive individual and I am ALL for Gay rights. I look at it as a Civil Rights issue. The problem I have with sexual orientation in politics is this. If you are of a political party that has a history of trying to deny Gays civil rights, has a portion of the party that actually and openly bashes gays and you yourself are gay - that's a problem. Total hypocrisy. I know hypocrisy occurs quite a bit in politics and we as humans are hypocritical in so many ways. Again, most the time, and definitely most recently - Liberals - will admit that they are gay and they will join the political game as their openly gay selves, be proud of it, and fight for gay rights. That's awesome. But, nothing irks me more than Gay Republicans who have not come out of the closet and who continue to deride Gay rights, gay parades, gay rallies, etc. Even if they don't openly deride Gays &#38; Lesbians in their speeches, etc., they are part of party that has fought against gay rights in the past and continues to do so. That is soooooo hypocritical and again, drives me nuts. 

If Dan Rutherford &#38; Aaron Schock are gay - I wish they would come out and push their party to change their ways. That would definitely show courage and leadership. And, if they are not, then I still wish they would drop out of the Republican Party anyway just because I think everyone should anyway. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a very liberal &amp; progressive individual and I am ALL for Gay rights. I look at it as a Civil Rights issue. The problem I have with sexual orientation in politics is this. If you are of a political party that has a history of trying to deny Gays civil rights, has a portion of the party that actually and openly bashes gays and you yourself are gay - that&#8217;s a problem. Total hypocrisy. I know hypocrisy occurs quite a bit in politics and we as humans are hypocritical in so many ways. Again, most the time, and definitely most recently - Liberals - will admit that they are gay and they will join the political game as their openly gay selves, be proud of it, and fight for gay rights. That&#8217;s awesome. But, nothing irks me more than Gay Republicans who have not come out of the closet and who continue to deride Gay rights, gay parades, gay rallies, etc. Even if they don&#8217;t openly deride Gays &amp; Lesbians in their speeches, etc., they are part of party that has fought against gay rights in the past and continues to do so. That is soooooo hypocritical and again, drives me nuts. </p>
<p>If Dan Rutherford &amp; Aaron Schock are gay - I wish they would come out and push their party to change their ways. That would definitely show courage and leadership. And, if they are not, then I still wish they would drop out of the Republican Party anyway just because I think everyone should anyway. <img src='https://capitolfax.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: No Longer a Peon</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/08/31/eaton-goes-there/#comment-11215790</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sorry... should have read... 'beating his wife'.</description>
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