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	<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/</link>
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		<title>by: Pot calling kettle</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11231037</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 05:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'll echo a few earlier posters.  You have to wonder if this couldn't have been put in the bag had the DC folks backed Gill from the start.  Their primary complaint seemed to be that had had lost in previous races.  But, since this was a new district and most of the overlap from the old district was Gill's base of support, he would seem to have been a good pick.  But what do I know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll echo a few earlier posters.  You have to wonder if this couldn&#8217;t have been put in the bag had the DC folks backed Gill from the start.  Their primary complaint seemed to be that had had lost in previous races.  But, since this was a new district and most of the overlap from the old district was Gill&#8217;s base of support, he would seem to have been a good pick.  But what do I know?
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		<title>by: TooManyJens</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11231027</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Andy Griffith? Really?</description>
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		<title>by: Angry Chicagoan</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11231008</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It struck me as kind of a district mismatch in terms of temperament and presentation if not necessarily policy; you're effectively running Alan Grayson in a district that expects Andy Griffith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It struck me as kind of a district mismatch in terms of temperament and presentation if not necessarily policy; you&#8217;re effectively running Alan Grayson in a district that expects Andy Griffith.
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		<title>by: On the Real</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11231006</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gov Quinn should be on the phone offering him a job soon, just as he did with Seals, Bean, and Harper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gov Quinn should be on the phone offering him a job soon, just as he did with Seals, Bean, and Harper.
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		<title>by: Jake From Elwood</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11230993</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gill is just ticked that he missed the "No Democrat Left Behind" General Election of 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gill is just ticked that he missed the &#8220;No Democrat Left Behind&#8221; General Election of 2012.
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		<title>by: Arthur Andersen</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11230975</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Plummer reax to Davis/Gill, with creative props to Oswego Willy:
"Look at that Dad! His Dad only owns a few McDonald'ses and he could buy his Son a Lt. Congressman Job. All our Lumber Yards is a lot more than McDonald'ses right? Dad? 
Hey, speaking of McDonald's, can we go get a Big Kidz Happy Meal? They have Hot Wheels toys now! I love Hot Wheels!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plummer reax to Davis/Gill, with creative props to Oswego Willy:<br />
&#8220;Look at that Dad! His Dad only owns a few McDonald&#8217;ses and he could buy his Son a Lt. Congressman Job. All our Lumber Yards is a lot more than McDonald&#8217;ses right? Dad?<br />
Hey, speaking of McDonald&#8217;s, can we go get a Big Kidz Happy Meal? They have Hot Wheels toys now! I love Hot Wheels!&#8221;
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		<title>by: wayward</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11230969</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Honestly, I think if he'd started out with a strong campaign manager and experienced advisors, he would have had a fighting chance.  But he didn't have much money, and I don't think the establishment initially saw him as a serious candidate.  Gill's a great guy, and he had a lot of people onboard who really liked him.  Unfortunately, most of them had never really run a campaign of that scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I think if he&#8217;d started out with a strong campaign manager and experienced advisors, he would have had a fighting chance.  But he didn&#8217;t have much money, and I don&#8217;t think the establishment initially saw him as a serious candidate.  Gill&#8217;s a great guy, and he had a lot of people onboard who really liked him.  Unfortunately, most of them had never really run a campaign of that scale.
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		<title>by: T.J.</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11230968</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gill is a textbook example of doing everything wrong with the wind at your back.  Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Urbana Democrats nominated him a fifth time for this seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gill is a textbook example of doing everything wrong with the wind at your back.  Still, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if Urbana Democrats nominated him a fifth time for this seat.
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		<title>by: concerned decatur</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11230958</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gill may have been too unmodulated a populist for the district.  The focus should have been on preserving the social safety net, not soaking the rich.  Becuase of the primary fight he did start at a huge financial deficit and it took a long time for national demcorats to support him;  he certainly did not have the establishment support from the get go to Bustos, Schneider, Foster and Duckworth.  Still a loss is a loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gill may have been too unmodulated a populist for the district.  The focus should have been on preserving the social safety net, not soaking the rich.  Becuase of the primary fight he did start at a huge financial deficit and it took a long time for national demcorats to support him;  he certainly did not have the establishment support from the get go to Bustos, Schneider, Foster and Duckworth.  Still a loss is a loss.
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		<title>by: wayward</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11230955</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Basically yeah -- she and DCCC worked really hard, and it's a tough situation because Davis ended up ahead but only by a fraction of a percent.  That's still &#62; 1000 votes, though.  I'm not sure how many absentee or provisional ballots are out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically yeah &#8212; she and DCCC worked really hard, and it&#8217;s a tough situation because Davis ended up ahead but only by a fraction of a percent.  That&#8217;s still &gt; 1000 votes, though.  I&#8217;m not sure how many absentee or provisional ballots are out there.
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		<title>by: Just Observing</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11230947</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I know nothing about Sherry Greenberg and haven't followed this race closely, but simply that Gill probably lost doesn't mean she failed or did a poor job.  Perhaps she saved Gill from crushing defeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know nothing about Sherry Greenberg and haven&#8217;t followed this race closely, but simply that Gill probably lost doesn&#8217;t mean she failed or did a poor job.  Perhaps she saved Gill from crushing defeat.
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		<title>by: Jaded</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/fun-with-numbers-8/#comment-11230933</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Seriously? The GOP wins 1 race yesterday in Illinois, and they won't even concede that one.  Talk about being greedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously? The GOP wins 1 race yesterday in Illinois, and they won&#8217;t even concede that one.  Talk about being greedy.
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