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	<title>Comments on: Pension amendment fails</title>
	<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/</link>
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		<title>by: Dirty Red</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11231126</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It would appear as if there is a three-fifths majority available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would appear as if there is a three-fifths majority available.
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		<title>by: western illinois</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230998</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230998</guid>
					<description>There was a lot of radio the final weekend on Chicago and Peoria stations.
I agree with RNUG but it backfired. Like the GOP brand problem there just is no desire to punish public employees</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a lot of radio the final weekend on Chicago and Peoria stations.<br />
I agree with RNUG but it backfired. Like the GOP brand problem there just is no desire to punish public employees
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		<title>by: Melita</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230979</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As MarkO said...it would open the doors, but not just the State employee pensions, but all Local and County Government pensions who have put away their own funds.  The State just wants to have access to those funds to pay for debt they built.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As MarkO said&#8230;it would open the doors, but not just the State employee pensions, but all Local and County Government pensions who have put away their own funds.  The State just wants to have access to those funds to pay for debt they built.
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		<title>by: geronimo</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230977</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230977</guid>
					<description>Such an ambiguously worded piece of legislation that no matter which side of the issue you're on, no one seemed to know what they'd be getting by voting yes.  Slimy stuff just like everything that's gone on for decades with the legislature and funding the pension systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such an ambiguously worded piece of legislation that no matter which side of the issue you&#8217;re on, no one seemed to know what they&#8217;d be getting by voting yes.  Slimy stuff just like everything that&#8217;s gone on for decades with the legislature and funding the pension systems.
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		<title>by: mokenavince</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230972</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230972</guid>
					<description>55% should wake up even the thickesd politican.
I'm sure MJM bgets the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>55% should wake up even the thickesd politican.<br />
I&#8217;m sure MJM bgets the message.
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		<title>by: wert</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230967</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230967</guid>
					<description>"Vote No" was widely circulated on facebook particularly by teachers and government employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Vote No&#8221; was widely circulated on facebook particularly by teachers and government employees.
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		<title>by: Billy</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230937</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230937</guid>
					<description>As a retired teacher, but no longer a member of the Illinois Federation of Teachers Union, I was sent Emails, news letters, and received phone calls pushing that I vote no on this amendment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a retired teacher, but no longer a member of the Illinois Federation of Teachers Union, I was sent Emails, news letters, and received phone calls pushing that I vote no on this amendment!
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		<title>by: Ready To Get Out</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230898</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230898</guid>
					<description>I agree with you RNUG. Was thinking the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you RNUG. Was thinking the same thing.
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		<title>by: John on the spot</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230883</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230883</guid>
					<description>Rich-SUAA had such an ad on your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich-SUAA had such an ad on your site.
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		<title>by: RNUG</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230872</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230872</guid>
					<description>Aside from the door it might have opened, I always figured the "hidden" agenda was to make the public think something got done about the pension issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the door it might have opened, I always figured the &#8220;hidden&#8221; agenda was to make the public think something got done about the pension issue.
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		<title>by: Former Merit Comp Slave</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230859</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230859</guid>
					<description>My home email, my home mailbox in the yard and my phone were all inundated with ads on this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My home email, my home mailbox in the yard and my phone were all inundated with ads on this subject.
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		<title>by: MarkO</title>
		<link>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230857</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://capitolfax.com/2012/11/07/pension-amendment-fails/#comment-11230857</guid>
					<description>Yes, there was a hidden agenda in this amendment, which is why is was so wordy and confusing.  It would have opened the door for the Governor to make changes to the pensions of teachers and state workers, which is currently protected by the Illinois Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there was a hidden agenda in this amendment, which is why is was so wordy and confusing.  It would have opened the door for the Governor to make changes to the pensions of teachers and state workers, which is currently protected by the Illinois Constitution.
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