SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
*** LIVE *** VETO SESSION COVERAGE

Tuesday, Dec 4, 2012

* Blackberry users click here. Everyone else can just watch it all unfold…

- Posted by Rich Miller        


8 Comments
  1. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 4, 12 @ 1:46 pm:

    ===Story: Gov. Jim Edgar says he’d likely back Sen. Kirk Dillard for governor again if Dillard runs.===

    Kiss. Of. Death.


  2. - steve schnorf - Tuesday, Dec 4, 12 @ 6:37 pm:

    still a lot of Edgar envy running around this site, huh?


  3. - Just Me - Tuesday, Dec 4, 12 @ 6:58 pm:

    Anyone else having trouble with this live feed on their iPhones? It has looked all garbled for the past couple weeks.


  4. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Dec 4, 12 @ 7:23 pm:

    Huge …Huge fan of Edgar.

    His endorsements, from Lolita all the way to Dillard this last run for Governor seem to be the Kiss of Death!

    Don’t know how to explain it, nor does anyone else, but if you go back to Lolita for Senate till Dillard for Governor, not a “stellar” record.

    Sill, a huge fan of Edgar, just please don’t endorse.


  5. - park - Tuesday, Dec 4, 12 @ 7:58 pm:

    If the R’s don’t screw it up, Dillard will be Gov. 4 years too late, but better late etc…


  6. - Arthur Andersen - Tuesday, Dec 4, 12 @ 8:30 pm:

    Also having the iPhone/ScribbleLive problem fwiw.


  7. - Gregor - Tuesday, Dec 4, 12 @ 11:56 pm:

    At Edgar’s presser today, some uncredentialed guy with a home-made mic flag ticked off the accredited press corps by boorishly jumping in front of them to try a “gotcha” question on Senator Brady, but Brady deftly turned the question with a solid answer that made this “reporter” look kinda dumb. I think this was the same guy that buys dead airtime blocks off of WIND on the weekends for a right wing “talk show”. Is that the same guy or not?


  8. - PublicServant - Wednesday, Dec 5, 12 @ 7:29 am:

    Representatives Nekritz and Biss will attempt to float another in a string of unconstitutional proposals to reduce pension benefits this morning. Just wanted to restate Eric Madiar’s analysis of why this, and the others won’t pass constitutional, or contractual muster.

    ===
    In his analysis, Madiar pointed to the Pension Clause debates that took place during the 1970 Illinois Constitutional Convention as a starting point for his interpretation of the Pension Clause language that prohibits Illinois from reducing benefits at all. In 1970, the Pension Clause sponsors argued that the Illinois Constitution needed a codified protection for public employees, similar to a provision in the New York Constitution that declared the contractual nature of pension benefits and foreclosed the possibility of the state reducing or eliminating those benefits entirely.

    According to Madiar’s brief, after the Pension Clause was sent to committee for editing prior to submission to the voters, the Pension Laws Commission attempted to change the language by adding a contingency clause that would give power to the General Assembly to “enact reasonable modifications in employee rates of contribution, minimum service requirements and other provisions pertaining to the fiscal soundness of the retirement systems . . .” This change (submitted by the Commission twice) was rejected prior to sending the Constitution in its final form to the voters. Anti-reformers point to this fact as evidence that the drafters of the Pension Clause clearly sought to prohibit the state from reducing or diminishing an employee’s benefits.

    When the text of the Pension Clause was eventually sent to Illinois voters, it included an official explanation from the Convention. The explanation stated that under the Clause, “provisions of state and local governmental pension and retirement systems shall not have their benefits reduced” and that membership in these systems “shall be a valid contractual relationship.” Finally, the explanation stated that the clause was “self-explanatory.”
    ===

    Get real. You don’t get to use the pensions as your piggy bank for 7 decades, and use the excuse that the debt you ran up is to high to pay, and place it all on the employees. Taxes should have been higher all those years to properly fund your priorities. Where’s the taxpayer’s haircut in this?

    So…See ya in court.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* We interrupt this break for a special announcement...
* Reader comments closed for the weekend
* Afternoon updates
* Stop the satellite TV tax!
* *** UPDATED 1x *** Twitter suspends parody account @peoriamayor
* Lesson learned: Don't 'Leave'
* Fitch affirms Illinois GO Bond rating
* BGA: Rauner firm holds state contracts; political round-up
* Question of the Day
* CAPTION CONTEST!
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * #Love: I’m Single, Therefore I Tinder
        * Hands On With Facebook Nearby Friends [Video]: No More Checkins
        * In Digital Health, Does Nike Have A Path To Victory After Fuelband?
        * Android Community Weekly Wrap-Up for April 19, 2014
        * Baldur’s Gate Enhanced Edition: first impressions on a revived classic
        * Hands On With Facebook's Nearby Friends
        * Our favourite 5 new Windows Phone apps of the week

        * Notification Toggle Adds Settings and App to Android's Pulldown Bar
        * Use a Moist Towel to Make Perfect Oven-Baked Eggs
        * Some More Concept Renders of the Larger iPhone 6
        * Braven BRV-X Ultra-Rugged Bluetooth Speaker Review
        * 6 Environmentally Friendly Gadgets for Earth Day
        * Front Panel of Next Generation iPad Air Leaked
        * Facebook Paper for iPhone Receives a Big Update

        * Dunn unimpressed with .304 batting average
        * Beckham close, but not back
        * Danks wants to be less wild but equally effective
        * Webb ready for action
        * This Week in White Sox Minor League Baseball
        * Adam Eaton flirts with death, then strains hamstring
        * Prospect Johnson proving 2013 wasn't a fluke


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Casino bill must include Chicago — and safeguards..
        * US Sen. Durbin says he's taking Oberweis seriously..
        * FEMA’s disaster decisions frustrate state, loca.....
        * District 300 set to pilot new teacher evaluations..
        * Groups sue to stop Illiana Tollway..


        * Former death row inmate details difficulties
        * Cardinal: Could be last Easter as archbishop
        * Police: 6 people injured in Easter party shooting
        * Video gambling exclusion list prompts questions
        * Chicagoan to run 35th straight Boston Marathon
        * Authorities: Newborn baby found in plastic bag
        * Lawyer: No more appeals for Crundwell
        * Downtown Belleville fountain damaged by car crash
        * Chicagoan to run 35th straight Boston Marathon
        * US Sen. Durbin says he's taking Oberweis seriously

        * Addiction experts: Illinois budget cuts could hurt drug treatment
        * Comptroller Topinka reports $125K in income
        * Bernard Schoenburg: Durbin, Oberweis spar over earmarks, minimum wage
        * Statehouse Insider: It doesn’t always add up in the General Assembly
        * Chicago casino plan draws more support at legislative hearing
        * Video gaming may get its own exclusion list
        * U of I officials seeking to prevent retirement rush
        * U of I asks state legislators to prevent retirement rush; could affect 200 at UIS
        * 2015 tax rates still far from settled
        * Strip club tax brings in much less than expected

        * Census: People are leaving all six Chicago-area counties
        * Trixie and Chad have kids!
        * Quinn administration funds Diana Rauner's nonprofit
        * Why Lenovo's Moto bid is looking smarter
        * Ignoring Shakespeare's butcher, law firm advises how to cut legal bills


        * Truck crashes into Greater Grand Crossing store; five people injured
        * Cardinal celebrates what may be ‘last Easter’ leading Chicago flock
        * Casino bill must include  Chicago — and safeguards
        * In violent weekend, at least 7 dead, 25 wounded in shootings across Chicago
        * Newborn boy found dead in Northwest Side gangway
        * Husband, wife — both officers — dead in murder-suicide: police
        * Newborn found dead in Northwest Side gangway
        * Six shot at Easter party in suburban Montgomery


        * 'Nothing is ever without hope,' ailing George tells Catholics on Easter
        * Man held on $1 million bail in Friday shooting
        * 2 dead, 4 others wounded in separate city shootings
        * FBI looks for duo who robbed Austin neighborhood bank
        * Police: Husband and wife -- both officers -- dead in murder-suicide
        * Man critically injured in crash involving motorcycle, semi
        * Geneva woman killed in motorcycle accident in Kane County
        * 6 wounded in shooting at Easter party in Montgomery
        * Cops: 5 dead, 13 others injured in shootings


        * Illinois Finally Gets 'No Child Left Behind' Waiver
        * U Of I: Illinois Pension Overhaul Had Costly Mistake
        * Fish fry dinners bring food, community to Catholics during Lent
        * Listen To State Week - April 18, 2014
        * Murray Center Advocates Win Appeals Decision
        * Employment Improves, But Illinois Still Lags U.S.
        * Nine Illinois lawmakers vote to fund Obama library - but only five members in attendance
        * WBEZ's Student Stories
        * Interview: John Tinker & The Landmark Case On Students' Right To Free Speech
        * State Legislation Hints At Marijuana Legalization


        * Our Opinion: Don’t drag feet on drone regulation
        * Bernard Schoenburg: Durbin, Oberweis spar over earmarks, minimum wage
        * Bernard Schoenburg: Durbin, Oberweis spar over earmarks, minimum wage
        * Statehouse Insider: It doesn’t always add up in the General Assembly
        * Statehouse Insider: It doesn’t always add up in the General Assembly
        * Armenta L. Johnson: Advocate for quality education to avoid segregation
        * Catherine Walters: Prairie Center Against Sexual Assault notes anniversary, awareness month
        * Video gaming may get its own exclusion list
        * U of I asks state legislators to prevent retirement rush; could affect 200 at UIS
        * Quinn grants 43 clemency requests


        * This week's lane restrictions
        * An Easter tradition
        * Road, bridge projects get $7.7 million
        * Beware of Nipper shaker knockoffs
        * Wichita State run-rules SIU baseball 11-1
        * Local students selected as marshals for MBU commencment
        * Talk explains growing up in Moline 100 years ago
        * UI Tennis vs. Wisconsin
        * Library to host poetry reception
        * Cheverlot to host test drive fundraiser


        * The 10th District money race
        * Aurora Democrat calls out IHSA
        * Lawyers: Ill. hazing law vague, unconstitutional
        * Ill. House OKs lower-cost hunting bill for seniors
        * Quinn’s running mate takes new consulting job

        * When Punishment Is Torture: An Open Letter...
        * Jesse Jackson Jr. placed in solitary confi...
        * Jesse Jackson Jr. Transferred To Alabama P...
        * Jesse Jackson Jr. sent to solitary then tr...
        * Jesse Jackson Jr. Maneuvers Himself Into M...
        * Jesse Jackson Jr. Changes Prisons, Could B...
        * Jesse Jackson Jr Moved to Alabama Prison C...
        * Inmates Sent To Solitary Confinement For H...
        * Jesse Jackson Jr. transferred to minimum s...
        * Jesse Jackson Jr. moved to another prison ...

        * Loading Koch Industries Website Too Many T......
        * Maryland and DC among worst for food aller......
        * Cleveland State University to reestablish ......
        * Convicted political boss Al Sanchez runnin......
        * Candidates make last filings for local, st......

        * Illinois Lt. Gov. Simon opposes pension le......
        * Dillard Odd Man Out on Pension Deal Reaction...
        * Sen. Mark Kirk sides with Rauner on pensio......
        * Governor's race infighting threatens pensi......
        * SCHOONERS - Home of Everyone's Favorite Be......

        * Wishing Buehrle back on Sout’ Side
        * Chris Christie’s pension theft in New Jersey. Nation-wide pension theft needs a nation-wide response.
        * GTCR is Rauner’s Bain Capital. So Squeezy gives him a state contract. Shaking up Springfield?
        * Sunday book review section. This is Not a Test.
        * The Library of Congress Pkwy?
        * Sen. Mark Kirk pokes at Eric Holder: Did NSA spy on Congress?
        * Democratic National Committee Executive Committee meeting in Chicago June 8
        * Emily's List hits Chicago June 27: Sebelius, Lisa Madigan, Neely, Finney to speak
        * Feinstein, Chambliss defend phone data snooping to "keep the homeland safe." Durbin has concerns. UPDATED
        * President Obama official schedule and guidance June 6, 2013. North Carolina, California


        * Governor Quinn Announces Investments to Conserve Lake Michigan Shoreline - Visits Volunteer Beach Clean-up to Announce Investments That Will Support Environmental Education and Stewardship Projects
        * Governor Pat Quinn Takes Clemency Action
        * Proposed Rules for Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act Filed
        * Adopt-A-Highway Spring Cleanup Begins Today - Annual Event Honors Earth Day, Tackles Roadside Litter After Harsh Winter
        * Illinois Schools Win No Child Left Behind Waiver - Federal Government Approves Flexibility Needed for Successful Implementation of State Strategies to Improve Student Learning




            Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller