The one thing I dislike the most about Governor Quinn is his public speaking style.
I know that he is a very genuine and caring person. I really do know that he takes governing seriously and he wants to make government better. But when he speaks publicly, I don’t get that feeling from him at all. He comes across as phony and fumbling for grandiose expressions. I am sorry to say that because I do like the guy * he just has a very strange speaking and I find that it causes me to be uninterested in him and what he is saying.
I dislike that Pat Quinn uses the Populist Pat Quinn to be Governor Pat Quinn, especially when Illinois could use … a governor.
You can’t have cartoons speak for you, when you refuse to be seen at the table, speaking for yourself.
You can’t try to undermine 1/3 of the Government as a stunt, and then push the stunt so far that your polling increases, but your governmental credibility plummets.
You can’t play “Man of the People” when you need to be playing “Seat Holder of the Executive”. Going in front of voters with a puffed chest banging away at 1/3 of the government is sadly small … compared to the Powers of the Illinois Governor, when wielded correctly, could make Pat Quinn, Governor, even more popular than Pat Quinn, Populist.
I dislike most the “Populist” ideal as a tool to be THE governor.
In reality, knowing you have power is sometimes hared to figure out than knowing how to use… power.
His dishonesty on state retiree pensions. He keeps talking about being for senior citizens while trying to cut the pensions of the former teachers and state employees, all of whoim are senior citizens. He feels strongly enough about the pension funding obligation that he has fully funded it during the years he’s actually had control of the budget but he is also strongly urging the GA to drastically cut pension benefits so he can lower the funding and get ou tof honoring the promises. He’s for expanding Medicaid for the poor but has no problem welching on the promised premium free retiree health insurance. He’s apparently on board with restricting the retiree’s health insurance options while talking about the new Obamacare health exchange choices.
Definitely talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time. He’s nothing but a hypocrite…
His total lack of respect for the working middle class citizens of this state. He appears to be all about those who benefit from the labors of others. He presses the needs of the poor,lazy and illegal and the greed of the rich while leaving the payment to those who follow the rules, do the work and yearn for the representation they charge us for.
The whole “outsider reformer” act he’s been pushing his whole career. Seems dishonest, since he’s run for every office under the sun and fed out of the public trough as often and for as long as possible.
I doubt that anyone on here, even those that love him, is going to call him anywhere near above average as a gov. He has massive majorities in both houses, many governors would pray for such an opportunity, yet what has he accomplished? He is openly fighting the GA. It is sad that the chance of a problem being fixed is inversely proportional to the amount of input Quinn puts in. Yet at a time when the State desperately needs competent leadership he will sail through the primary unopposed. Thanks to the tendency of IL GOP to self immolate we will most likely get 4 more years of feckless incompetent leadership or at best absence of leadership.
You never know what he is going to say or do next, because he has no principles for which he will take a stand or make a sacrifice, no understanding of the need to keep promises in order to work with others, and not even enough fundamental honesty to cause him embarassment when he changes policies with the tide.
- Boone's is Back - Thursday, Oct 24, 13 @ 1:34 pm:
If you’re going to call yourself a reformer then stick to it. Don’t take giant campaign contributions from labor unions and then sweeten their contracts during negotiations. Same goes for the whole “outsider” thing and then appointing Zuke to a state board. Ineffectiveness was a close second to hypocrisy, but second nonetheless.
He is a non-entity as a governor. He has proposed no bold initiatives, and if he has (I just don’t recall any) he has brought none of them to fruition. He does not demonstrate strong or inspiring leadership. No one really pays attention to him.
He reminds me of the kind of character actor in a 1950s rom-com movie who plays, for example, the small town mayor or Elks Club president, a role designed for comic relief, a figure everyone in the town considers a buffoon, but is well meaning and offends no one and therefore gets to assume the “leadership” position no one of real talent wants or cares about. As for an actual example of this, I’m thinking the actor Paul Ford, but there are others.
You can’t build a strategy around what he will approve or want, because it is always changing. Sometimes he is uber-populist, but sometimes he hears the voice of reason. At least with Blagojevich all you had to do was build a strategy that made him look good.
That he can’t be a leader. He is good at grandstanding, but he couldn’t find 60 votes to pass a bill saying Dec 25th will be known as Christmas Day”!!! A REAL LEADER would call the 4 Tops to the mansion and hand them a breakfast lunch and dinner menu. And tell them to choose all 3 meals ” cause none of you are leaving till we have agreed on a pension bill”!!
Portraying himself as “one of the people’, fighting for the little guy, but consorting with the uber rich by pushing to break promises made to the people who did the work for the citizens of the state. Hypocrisy at its worst…
The fact that he was appointed by Blago - JUST KIDDING.
There are so many things to choose and others have so eloquently enumerated them. So I’ll discuss my biggest disappointment. That being the good will he squandered after taking over from the impeached Blago. We had seen his populist bomb-throwing propensities and knew that he was not the best administrator, but we had been so beat down by the Blago years we wanted him to succeed. We wanted him to be a leader. We wanted him to work with others to address the problems left behind by his crooked predecessor. Unfortunately, he has demonstrated that he’s not up to the task. He’s continued the morass we have endured in Illinois government since 1993.
His very poor choices in picking agency heads and staff members.
- Old and In The Way - Thursday, Oct 24, 13 @ 2:12 pm:
Dislike and distrust the man and the politician. I have known him too long. There is no detail too large or too obvious for him to overlook or ignore! Railing for pension ‘reform’ on behalf of seniors and education when most retirees are seniors and former educators! PQ is a simpleton, always has been from CUB until today!
I support Pat Quinn. But what I like least is his support for the Madigan (pension) Plan, (which I hope gets stricken if ever passed), and his lack of support for the gambling expansion package that was so carefully and creatively assembled by legislators in both houses.
His obstruction of gaming expansion. This state needs all the revenue it can get and I find his position on this issue the most incoherent and hypocritical of all positions he has. He’s made the case we desperately need revenue with his pension grandstanding and support for a tax increase. He’s been willing to change stripes on an illicit vice by signing the medical marijuana bill. And he’s willing to overlook church objections on gays so why pay attention to their position on gambling?
-since he’s run for every office under the sun and fed out of the public trough as often and for as long as possible-
He’s a public servant, this is what he loves to do… public servants get paid by the public… He graduated from Northwestern Law School. Trust me, he could be nice and retired with a much bigger bank account if he wanted to work in the private sector. Money has never been important to him, or so it seems…
As for his worst quality… I think he speaks too much for “sound bites” and repeats himslef over and over. Definitelty no Slick Willy Clinton behind the podium…
Yikes! That’s my bad everyone, how quickly I forgot.
- all the above plus - Thursday, Oct 24, 13 @ 2:38 pm:
His insensitivity and lies pretends to be the man of the people when in reality he’s in it for PQ Governor. Basis his. staff, heads, circumvents hiring / raises for some, fund use, total mismanagement.
His disregard for the constitution. The court struck down his attempt at manipulating the General Assembly by stopping paychecks, and his number one priority is to violate the constitutional clause regarding pensions. If a governor can’t uphold the constitution…..
can’t stand the whole populist thing. he wants to be an outsider but he is an insider through and through, so he comes across as a big phony. the longer he is in office, the more I can’t stand him.
- Just Wondering - Thursday, Oct 24, 13 @ 4:21 pm:
His willingness to permit anything in order to maintain his position through political expediency. He is heavily dependent upon several corrupt allies on the South side of Chicago and he has been allowing them to run amuck in return for votes. Cf. Chicago State University (Emil Jones Academy).
It’s the same problem I have with most politicians: They don’t seem to talk to “Americans” (no hyphen) enough during our elections.
That doesn’t mean that I do not understand that our Country is–and should continue to be, comprised of BOTH Citizens and non-Citizens. Or that our Government is not responsible for providing constituent services equally to Citizens and others who are here legally. Or that some non-Citizens are currently in the process of becoming Citizens. Or that we have no ex-pats. Or that everyone should suddenly forget from where they originated.
I’m just saying that there is a bunch of just plain, ol’ Americans who still live here, too. And…we vote, because we have the right to do so.
And whether true or not, the perceptions you sometimes weave to win “ethnic” votes make it seem as if you’re taking us for granted and even excluding us at times.
And that seems kind of silly because from a practical perspective, I’ll bet that the number of plain, ol’ Americans who live here has consistently grown, and continues to grow, as “newbies” transition, acclimate, and sometimes, eventually even choose to drop their hyphens.
And by remembering to speak to us directly more often, you might not only get more votes from those of us who are already voting, but you might even inspire and motivate those of us who already have the right, but have not yet exercised it to come out to vote…or even come out to vote more frequently.
Who knows? As an added benefit, you might even be accused some day of managing to help unite us even further.
And gosh, what a concept that would be for these here United States of America.
–That doesn’t mean that I do not understand that our Country is–and should continue to be, comprised of BOTH Citizens and non-Citizens. Or that our Government is not responsible for providing constituent services equally to Citizens and others who are here legally. Or that some non-Citizens are currently in the process of becoming Citizens. Or that we have no ex-pats. Or that everyone should suddenly forget from where they originated.–
About 3 years ago, when he gave his Budget Office folks pay raises, but stiffed the rest of us Merit Comp slobs. That and the 24 furlough days gleaned from my salary right when it mattered for calculation of my retirement formula.
I dislike his moral righteousness. Claims not to want to harm anyone but is quick to substitute his own moral “superiority” in place of that arrived at by consensus. And despite his claim to morality, I want to hear him address and apologize to the large number of short-term IL prisoners convicted of non-violent offenses and their families who have had to endure much greater family hardship and longer prison terms because he first cancelled IDOC good time for purely political reasons, and then now has IDOC miserly implementing awarding of new sentence credits to inmates. Quinn should be ashamed of the squalid conditions he has left the prisons to deteriorate in and the ways he is trying to hide their deplorable situation from the public. for all his morality; he does not care if he harms anyone and he does not take responsibility for his mistakes
==About 3 years ago, when he gave his Budget Office folks pay raises, but stiffed the rest of us Merit Comp slobs. That and the 24 furlough days gleaned from my salary right when it mattered for calculation of my retirement formula.==
He gave them raises again a year ago, and didn’t give the rest of us furlough days, so things are looking up.
To the question — he will do and say anything to hold onto the office of governor, but has no interest whatsoever in actually being a governor.
- Just The Way It Is One - Thursday, Oct 24, 13 @ 8:21 pm:
Others obviously strongly disagree but Pat Quinn is a great man in many ways, really cares deeply about helping people in ALL facets of Society, and is a very hard-working, honest, reform-minded Governor. However, SO many of the same old problems in Illinois remain, and even with Pat Quinn’s indefatigable perseverance and commitment to reform and continued, thorough dedication to it, even in a best case (highly unlikely) scenario, four more years with him at the helm would only dent (maybe even only chip away) some of these old, serious, entrenched problems….
It just goes to show how truly difficult it IS–even for someone like Pat Quinn who’s devoted most of his professional life to doing it–to bring about REAL positive Change in large Governments like Illinois’ 5th-Most-Populous State in the Union’s version of it…!
His is public speaking for all the reasons stated above, and the The Cutback Amendment, because I think it made the GA an even more partisan place.
===It just goes to show how truly difficult it IS===
Just The Way It Is One, you are absolutely right. If I have another complaint it’s that I wish the governor could speak openly and freely about “how truly difficult it IS” but that wouldn’t be wise or practical. It would only make things harder.
- MIghty M. Mouse - Thursday, Oct 24, 13 @ 11:32 pm:
I dislike the fact that if he loses to Rauner a year later we will be calling these “the good old days.”
- eastbound and down - Friday, Oct 25, 13 @ 8:20 am:
Everybody has strengths and weaknesses, considering what he inherited, PQ has attempted to do the right thing. His heart is in the right place for the common folks and he will be re-elected because they know he is better then the alternatives. What you see is what you get with PQ good man.
RNUG, articulated very well my thoughts in regards to what I think of Quinn. This so-called “Populist” Governor is quite willing to rob retirees of their 3% compounded COLAs–COLAs that are legally owed retirees.
Even if retirees continued to maintain our 3% COLAs, many of us are still going to have issues in trying to maintain our standard of living for ourselves and our spouses.
The bottom line is that as we get older some of our expenses will increase at a higher inflationary rate than for other segments of the Illinois population.. For example–health care
Tied into his agreeing to throw seniors underneath the bus is the fact that he is siding with certain Democratic and Republican leaders in agreeing that the US and Illinois Constitutions no longer matters when it comes to their political agenda.
Quinn, talks about a “pension emergency.” I do think if he and the Illinois politicians trash contract law and the Illinois Constitution by slashing retiree’s COLAs there is going to be a more significant crisis as a result—-we will have a constitutional crisis in the state
He comes across as being “too much of a survivor” mentality. He goes with a populist viewpoint whether he truly believes it is in the public’s best interest in order to curry votes for his next re-election campaign. I think that if we were able to ask Pat the issues that he really stands for, he would be thinking “what do you want me to be and say and that is what I truly stand for?” In other words, whatever it takes to get re-elected and yet appeal to the masses even if it is going to hurt them.
It may not be a fair assessment of Quinn but it is the image that I have of him.