79 Comments - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:13 pm: Now we’re cooking. Bruce, it doesn’t count unless you get in front of the cameras and microphones and take questions like the big kids. - Chi - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:15 pm: Any of them clout in their children? - Boone's is Back - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:16 pm: Rehashed news clips from the U of I clout scandal years ago… really? That’s the best you got? - Knome Sane - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:16 pm: Methinks Rauner is feeling the heat from the Payton Prep Scandal. The difference between Dillard/Rutherford/Brady “clouting” someone into an elite public school is that Rauner clouted HIS OWN CHILD into Payton Prep! I see no evidence that Dillard/Rutherford/Brady clouted family members into U of I. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:17 pm: First, - wordslinger - is all over it. First question to Payton Prep Clouter Bruce Rauner? “So you are admitting you clouted your Denied, New Trier Daughter into Payton Prep Academy?” Don’t face the mics and that question,very hollow.., Very. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:20 pm: Rauner’s own… Denied… New Trier living… Daughter. I guess Payton Prep Clouter Bruce Rauner will release that school info now… right? No Carhartt in the world can keep Jim bulletproof from PERSONAL gain and personal Clouting of a Denied, non-Chicago living daughter of Bruce Rauner. - northshore cynic - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:21 pm: There is a big difference between using Chicago clout for your own family and trying to make sure your constituents receive the same benefits that every other legislator in the state was doing for the people they represent. This was accepted practice for the General Assembly until it was stopped. - DuPage Rep - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:23 pm: Why attack D-Lard? He is at 5% in the polls and broke. I think the real Rauner attacks should be focused on Rutherford. He is the guy that Rauner has to neutralize. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:26 pm: Payton Prep Clouter Bruce Rauner will stop Clouting his own kids… … When Bruce Rauner runs out of his own kids who get denied, lol - Soccermom - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:29 pm: I love a campaign with a sense of irony. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:29 pm: Why attack Dillard? Got to take them all on because every one of the “3″ is going to use Payton Prep… and it goes along with the career politician narrative including all “3″ - Bill White - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:30 pm: In other news, IL Governor Pat Quinn was seen grinning and eating popcorn. - Pete - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:34 pm: Did this get out right befor Dillards news conference on Rauner? Let the press grill Dillard first. - PublicServant - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:37 pm: When, if, his daughter graduates will he clout her into the U of I too? Or are we taking Harvard here? - Downstater - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:39 pm: Payton Prep Clouter Bruce Rauner- Much ado about nothing. - Gathersno - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:39 pm: …and the cannibalism begins. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:41 pm: - Downstater -, Yep. Dueling press conferences and by release with no questions for the PPC. No legs. You keep wishing… - Chi - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:42 pm: I’d say this line of attack is a mistake by the Rauner campaign. It keeps the spotlight on the clouting of his daughter, which is clearly worse than legislators recommending constituents, and Rauner is the one running as the goo-goo, the white knight. The allegation hurts his campaign and its message worse than it does the others, who haven’t claimed the outsider title. The campaign seems to be severely off message right now, reeling, unsure of how to handle the situation they’re in. I’m not yet ready to say they’re imploding, but if this keeps up… (keep it up!!!) - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:45 pm: - Chi -, On Point, touching all bases. Keep talking about it PPC, but try it in front of cameras and mics! - ha - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:47 pm: The unmitigated gall of Rauner’s hypocrisy is breathtaking! Two guesses…Rauner’s poll numbers are showing damage & expect a new ad very soon. - Almost the Weekend - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:48 pm: Who is running Rauner’s campaign? They are only thinking 1 step ahead, not the second, third, or fourth step after that. Must be really foggy in Rauner’s campaign office - Smoggie - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:48 pm: When you are claiming to be an outsider running to rid us of the horrors created by career politicians and you have to issue a press release saying in essence “but, but, but the career politicians did it too” you are pretty much conceding defeat on both the “clout” and the “career politician” issues. Rauner doesn’t seem to understand that he’s got a ton of money and that money buys certain power. The press is talking about the clout issue. Rauner can respond, but when he does his response is weak. Or he can simply go up with ads that change the subject. With his money, I would be up with ads ripping his opponents for things like the failure to pass workers’ comp or tort reform. The fact that they may have supported it doesn’t matter. “Bill Brady has been in office for 20 years, but IL still has some of the most anti-employer workers comp laws in the country. . .” He has the money to change the subject. He doesn’t get that he doesn’t have to respond. Will the press talk about the checks? Sure, but they will talk about it more when Rauner keeps talking about the clout issue. The more he debates it, the longer it lasts. - In the know - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:49 pm: As OW has point out, there is a marked difference between writing a letter urging admission for a school that all applicants were entitled to attend, especially when there was no personal (familial) benefit, AND the situation where a spot opens up in a school at which HIS daughter was ineligible to attend and THEN he drops 3/4 of a MILLION dollars to support the mission of the school district (and school). Anyone who can’t see the difference doesn’t want to. And if Rauner’s best argument is “they suck too!” then God help us as we reelect Pat Quinn (with GOP votes) - Ghost - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:49 pm: So then Quinn, lucky politician or luckiest politician ever? Not often you can have such low approval ratings yet get your opponents to self destruct election after election. - MrJM - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:56 pm: “‘Attack their strengths’? I thought we were supposed to attack our weaknesses…” – MrJM - Downstater - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:57 pm: Rich Miller’s words-Considering his alleged involvement in the Walter Payton College Prep clout scandal. - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 1:59 pm: –He’s double-talking and has more clout baggage than O’Hare during a snowstorm.– Mike, apparently you feel the need to wax literary in your press releases. Resist that urge. Get your guy out in front of the cameras to take the shots at his opponents. He’s the one who needs to show whether he can mix it up, not you. It’s a sign of weakness to try to get tough with a press release, and an even bigger sign of weakness to hide behind your flack. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:00 pm: Major mistakes since New Year? Running “Charter School” Ad sooooo early, allowing Payton Prep to leak oil. Minimum wage back and forth, editorial and video/audio rebuttal with his own words. The oil keeps leaking, will it catch fire by Dopey press releases and no “press conference / stand up an answer” response? No good damage control so far, lots of answering, less getting out front… - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:09 pm: - Soccermom -, So I guess Rauner’s Crew is not going to heed your sage advice again… They know better. The press release, the hiding, the non response directly to Payton Prep and the Daughter… Winning strategy in a press crisis? Yeah, um, ok. Yikes. - Endangered Moderate Species - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:09 pm: How will the media cover this press release? IMO- Much of State media has, so far, given Rauner favorable treatment. I am still on the fence about Peyton Prep resonating with GOP voters. This move by Rauner now moves me closer to OW’s thinking. Making a call on behalf of a constituent may be a form of clouting, but constituents expect their local representatives to have clout when it is used to help constituents and their District. An issue is taken when a person clouts at the expense of another. Rauner will never be confused with Robin Hood. - Downstater - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:14 pm: =Major mistakes since New Year?= Major mistakes by Brady, Dillard, and Rutherford, since campaign began. NO MONEY. NO MONEY. NO MONEY. Tea party people love Rauner. - Pardon Miriam Santos - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:17 pm: Go get him, Bill Brady! Well said! - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:18 pm: Good on Brady.., keep the feet to the fire! - Downstater -, Are you saying Tea Partiers have no ethics or morals when it comes to blatant Clouting, and dropping $750K after Clouting occurs? I think more highly of Tea Partiers than you I suppose… - AFSCME Steward - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:21 pm: Knome Sane There’s another issue here also. He clouted his daughter into a school that she wasn’t eligible to attend. He didn’t just use his influence to get her to the top of the list, he also lied about where she lived. “Methinks Rauner is feeling the heat from the Payton Prep Scandal. The difference between Dillard/Rutherford/Brady “clouting” someone into an elite public school is that Rauner clouted HIS OWN CHILD into Payton Prep! I see no evidence that Dillard/Rutherford/Brady clouted family members into U of I.” - OneMan - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:23 pm: Well the question is what did the three do or not do… Years ago I had a friend who never heard back from U of I, he later discovered (so he says) they lost his application. His folks called our state rep (I have no idea who it was) and he supposedly looked into it (I suspect made a phone call) asking a question about someone isn’t the same Bruce as asking to let someone in… Not even close. But it is I suppose the only counter attack he has. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:25 pm: Brady, Dillard, Rutherford; Please add to this narrative the following, exactly.., “Bruce Rauner’s Clouting of his daughter was done by a CPS under a Rich Daley appointee.” Add “Rich Daley”, continue to stay away from RINO, Simple, clean, start adding Daley and Rahm when it does make logical sense. Keep at this… Do not give comfort, I mean, look how they handle crisis… Pressure, and the press is yours today, and in the issue. Good luck, all. - Pete - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:27 pm: Primary is over 2 months away. These salvos will be forgotten by then. Lots of time for voters to forget between now and then. - Percival - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:28 pm: I guess Rauner was for kids getting clouted into top schools before he was against it. - Downstater - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:31 pm: Oswego, I am just telling you the grassroots folks in Southwestern Illinois are 100% behind Rauner. Brady isn’t even on their radar. He had no one show up at a meeting last week, while the other GOP candidates were represented. Dillard/Obama coziness really sticks in their throat like a chicken bone. - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:34 pm: –Dillard/Obama coziness really sticks in their throat like a chicken bone– Lol, then they must love Rauner’s big money relationships with his buddies Daley and Emanuel. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:35 pm: - Downstater -, Super-easy fix; “Bruce Rauner called Barak Obama’s Education Secretary to Clout his child.” Obama’s chosen Ed Secretary clouted Rauner’s denied Daughter…lol That will play, if Obama-Dillard plays. Can’t have it both ways… - MrJM - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:35 pm: “Primary is over 2 months away. These salvos will be forgotten by then.” And Rauner has been running ads for months because he believes voters won’t remember them by election day? – MrJM - chad - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:36 pm: Right or wrong, U of I government relations representatives encouraged legislators to provide recommendations as a part of a standard operating process. This was knowingly supported by the top University administrators. Legislators (with a few exceptions, and not these Governor candidates) believed they were engaging an approved system of ethical behavior on behalf of constituents. Rauner, on the other hand, behaved in an under-handed way by going over the head of the local principal and clouting his family member in by forcing the matter with superiors. Tough, cruel and absolute. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:37 pm: - Pete - How do you know you are losing the argument in a campaign? You wish it away under the “forget” card… - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:41 pm: The Rauner trolls here are hilarious. Did you think Farmer Bruce got a pass from Thanksgiving through New Year’s because the other candidates were never going to smack him in the mouth? He got a pass because the others were holding back until a time when folks might be paying attention. Get ready. More to come….. - Soccermom - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:41 pm: “Primary is over 2 months away. These salvos will be forgotten by then. Lots of time for voters to forget between now and then.” Yeah — nothing like letting the voters know you think they’re stupid. - Rich Miller - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:47 pm: ===salvos will be forgotten by then=== Maybe, but the worse problem for him is if a negative theme develops and sticks. - Illinoisan - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:50 pm: Rauner’s campaign could function as a Master’s course in cynicism. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:51 pm: ===Maybe, but the worse problem for him is if a negative theme develops and sticks.=== Agreed. Worse of worse? Rauner Ads play and voters see them and just equate that with “negative, negative, negative”. More Ads, more reinforcing. Vicious circle. - Anonymous - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 2:56 pm: This is one of the best threads yet on the R Primary. All you have to do is just sit back and listen to learn so much about who is supporting whom–and unfortunately at times, who is listening to whom. - Kane County R - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:05 pm: Does anybody believe Bill Brady is the least bit relevant to this campaign? - MrJM - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:06 pm: But perhaps the worst thing that could happen to the Rauner campaign would be if the voters started to associate the endless stream of Rauner television ads with a multi-millionaire spending and spending and spending to buy himself the governor’s mansion. ‘Cause you can’t advertise your way out of that kind of media death-spiral. – MrJM - chad - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:06 pm: -salvos will be forgotten- Salvos are forgotten either when they are replaced by something worse about the candidate, or the candidate compensates with significant, offsetting positives. Worse will come out about Rauner — the dishonest “nice guy” act from this guy will encourage those abused by him to come out. Bloomburg was an example of someone who replaced the negative salvos associated with his wealth with positives — sound 2-way discussion of proposals for NYC and third-party tales of his good human works. Rauner is unwilling to discuss anything, much less present and discuss positive proposals. And good works? It looks like he is all self-serving. Beware the negative story trend — just look at how Giulianni was taken down so quickly when sequential negative tales came out about him. - Union Man - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:07 pm: And MJM’s whipping boy Quinn is doing nothing, no ads, low profile and he’ll still win while spending very little money. Because the Republicans just don’t get it!! There are NO stand out candidates in either party except Lisa and daddy threw her under the bus big time!! She could have won easily and probably been a great governor!! Thanks dad - Chavez-respecting Obamist - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:11 pm: Yo, Baron, this is *not* making us forget you want to lower the minimum wage. - Generation X - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:15 pm: A big problem for Rauner here is something Chris Christie is finding out. When there is an issue that unites both liberals and conservatives the crony capitalist Republican will be in bad shape. Rahm won’t play well south of I-80 and Clout won’t play well anywhere. He hasn’t even been hit with Rahm, Daley and De,ocrat contributions - PublicServant - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:20 pm: When’s that first debate? - Wallinger Dickus - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:22 pm: Pete @2:27 – Primary is still two months away? First time at this rodeo, say you? First, voting opens in a little over a month. Second, what’s been said and recorded will be repeated every minute until March 18. Go back to sleep. When you awake the issue will still be here. As will the embellishments. As the umpire said to Roy Hobbs, welcome to the majors. - Chris - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:35 pm: “I guess Rauner was for kids getting clouted into top schools before he was against it.” He’s *fer it* from the perspective of the brib … donor. He’s *agin it* from the perspective of the brib … elected official. ‘course, that’s contrary to the relative punishments under IL law between ‘donor’ and ‘donee’ in an unlawful circumstance. - Walter MItty - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:36 pm: When did Rauner send the check? I have heard it was a few months after his daughter was accepted? Is that true? If so, anybody ever have a kid in private school? That compares to our check for $200…. If it sticks, so be it. I think the devil is in the details. What I am certain about, he needs to take questions. If the check was later, say. If not, the others may have found something. Every Rich guy writes a check to get into a good college. If she was already in. Say. If not, the voters will decide. - Pets for Pat - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:39 pm: **EXCLUSIVE** A recent interaction was caught on tape between Kirk Dillard and Bruce Rauner and uploaded to the Internet. You can view it here. - Just The Way It Is One - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:52 pm: OH boy–this could really all get QUITE ugly before it’s all said and done. And it’s exactly what Republicans feared–their Candidates tearing each other up to shreds in an effort to gain the Upper-hand for the Nomination…all the while the Governor kicks back in his easy chair, above such a fray, wondering if buy the time whoever gets to oppose him on the Ballot will be coming to the November General Election HAVING been so torn apart by the others from an altogether disjointed, disunified Party, that Pat Quinn’s a cakewalk in coasting to victory and a 2nd Full-Term…! - Just The Way It Is One - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:53 pm: That was meant to read above, “…if by the time…!” - Precinct Captain - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:54 pm: ==Payton Prep Clouter Bruce Rauner- Much ado about nothing.== So clouting your unqualified suburban kid into a Chicago selective enrollment magnet high schools is “nothing”? I guess Buddy Bruce’s sugar sweet deals with Rahm Emanuel, Stu Levine, and Ed Rendell are “nothing” as well for the “grassroots folks in Southwestern Illinois.” - Tommydanger - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 3:56 pm: Bruce, lots of people visiting the Capitol Fax blog today. Sounds like time for another ad buy on this blog-we know how much you like the ‘lively banter’ from Capitol Fax bloggers. - Soccermom - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 4:19 pm: tommydanger, are your initials RM? - Pete - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 4:26 pm: Rich, Will you plan to check the stats for Union Primary influence? I think it would be interesting to compare counties where Prevailing Wage laws are in effect against counties that do not have the same wage requirements. I don’t think that the politics of the current 3 will stick to Rauner. I do think that the Unions will mobilize in the Northeast of the corner. The question is who will they punch? I’m wondering if Rutherford is the union choice? Would be Rutherford be better for unions with the position he took in Dec.? If Madigan and Quinn have pushed the Pension reform, maybe it’s time to put a Governor in place that would keep the constitutional promise of pensions? http://voices.suntimes.com/early-and-often/politics/dan-rutherford-weighs-in-on-pensions-i-do-not-support-the-current-legislation/ Could this statement be a quiet signal that union support in the primary/general has been secured? I still like Rauner, but DR is awefully quiet. Any Press is good press when you’re looking to build brand and name recoginition. I still think by Feb. 15th clout will be a non-issue in the primary and it will come down to Pension reform, income tax rate, and the state debt. I think those 3 topics will become the focus as the debates draw the media. The clout issues will be resolved by the first debate and each camp will have the talking points. The first candidate in second debate to bring up clout will be the candidate with the lowest number of votes in the primary. IMHO. - Chicago Publius - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 4:31 pm: An interesting point in the Rauner Payton Prep Clout scandal is that what Rauner did could be deemed a criminal act. Illinois statutes prohibit parents from claiming that a child is a “resident” of a district unless both the child and the parent are indeed bona fide resident of that district. For example, a person who knowingly enrolls a non-resident child in a public school is guilty of a class C misdemeanor; a person who presents to a school district false information about residency to enable that pupil to attend any school in that district commits a class C misdemeanor. Maybe it’s time for Anita Alvarez to start investigating. If Lord Bruce and his daughter weren’t BOTH bona fide residents of Chicago, then a crime most likely took place. - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 4:36 pm: –If Lord Bruce and his daughter weren’t BOTH bona fide residents of Chicago, then a crime most likely took place.– Oak Park River Forest puts you through the ringer these days to prove residency. Go to the school, in person, with all your paperwork, interview with school officials then Oak Park detectives. And this was for my kid just moving up from an Oak Park middle school. - Arthur Andersen - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 4:53 pm: Publius, thanks for that post. With that information in hand, Rauner is going to have to be quite a bit more forthcoming about all this than he has been. I don’t like to see children’s lives brought into the muck of a political campaign, Rauner has unfortunately caused his child to be brought into this through his heavy-handed intervention. - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 5:01 pm: OPRF sued a couple of village condo owners for back out-of-district tuition costs and kicked their kids out of school for allegedly living in Chicago. Mind you, these were folks who owned property in the village and paid property taxes. Maybe Rauner’s quarter million contribution to Payton solved that residency problem. http://www.suntimes.com/5848941-417/oak-park-school-officials-say-probe-led-to-residency-charge-against-family.html - Langhorne - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 7:13 pm: Any press is good press, to build brand? I dont think BVC would agree. BVC had the chance to let min wage cycle out, assess, and replace it w something favorable to him. Instead, he jumped into the mud and gave new life to clouting. He underestimated the blowback. He is allowing negative “a hah” moments to fester among primary voters. I said from the beginning, BVC would have trouble when faced w explaining any policy proposal of his, w 2 followups from knowledgeable questioners. He has to be scared spitless now, or should be. Next up: chgo bashing (mark brown is ready); his totally feel good stmts bout properly funded schools, bustling economy, high wages, less business regulation, security net for the (real) needy, and … Wait for it … Do away w the income tax increase. - SlapShotII - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 7:58 pm: How many family members has Rutherford ‘clouted ‘ onto his paid campaign staff or have jobs in the Treasures office ? - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 8:05 pm: - Slap Shot II -, lol, how is that like denying a worthy child an education? How is that like a Daughter, denied, but clouted over kids more worthy except for a Condo bought, and clout applied? Raunerbots are fun. Can not defend, but “look over here” Bruce Rauner chose his privileged denied daughter who did not live in Chicago over any child not his Daughter. Rauner cares nothing for children, unless they are chattel, to be arraigned by his Clouting… Other than that….lol - Anonymous - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 9:29 pm: Soccer mom: No, I’m not Rich Miller. - Tommydanger - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 9:32 pm: Soccermom: no, I’m not Rich Miller. Sorry! - truth hurts sometimes - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 10:45 pm: Dillard was the sponsor of the law which terminated the General Assembly scholarship program and the first person to call on Quinn 4 years ago to fire the U of I Board of Trustees for their abuses. The Chicago Tribune reported Dillard never questioned a decision by the admissions committee unlike Rauner who’s OWN kid was rejected then admitted because he used his clout to get her in! - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 13, 14 @ 11:34 pm: Railrat, whatever scraps you get from Madigan or Rauner, it’s way too much. They should pay you more not to “help.” Rauner spent millions over the holidays, when no one was paying attention, to become the “frontrunner” in the eyes of the media. Careful what you wish for, daddio, because here they come. You got built up, now they’re coming to knock you down. That’s as predictable as the sun coming up in the east. As soon as possible, Rauner needs to have a full-blown press conference and stand there and answer every question until there are no more. Maybe, then, he can put Payton, Levine, Emanuel, Daley, Claypool, Rendell, behind him. Maybe. You can’t duck the press and rely just on paid broadcast. They’ll be insulted and eat you alive. It’s always been that way. Nothing personal, just business. - Chris - Wednesday, Jan 15, 14 @ 12:09 pm: “Mind you, these were folks who owned property in the village and paid property taxes. Maybe Rauner’s quarter million contribution to Payton solved that residency problem.” Word: Rauner bought a condo in Chicago after she was admitted, but before the school year started. He didn’t sell it until after she graduated. He was paying taxes to CPS for the whole 4 years she was at Payton, so that doesn’t distinguish the OPRF cases. Now, it’s likely neither of them were actually living in the condo, and iirc he made a large profit at the sale, but it’s very doubtful he was renting the place to a 3d party, and he at least set up a colorable residence. Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.