SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Unclear on the concepts

Tuesday, Jan 21, 2014

* Sen. Kirk Dillard unveiled a proposal yesterday to lower the state’s gasoline sales tax by 3 percentage points and then using the remaining 2 percent state sales tax to fund a $1 billion capital program for roads and bridges

“This will save a typical family in Illinois nearly $200 a year while also putting people to work on road and bridge projects that are in dire need of repair,” Dillard said in a press release.

OK, first of all, in nominal dollars, Illinois’ gross state product was $644 billion in 2012. So, a $1 billion construction project represents just 0.16 percent of GSP. Not a lot of relative growth from something like that.

More importantly, though, the plan would cut state coffers by $550 million (including the $100 million taken out of circulation for capital projects). How would he cover that hole? By “growing the economy,” Dillard told reporters yesterday.

Sorry, but hope ain’t a plan.

* Then there were the contradictions

“Illinois has two taxes on gas and I propose, using, getting rid of the second one — as I long have,” said Dillard, who noted the state also has a 19-cent per gallon tax on gasoline. […]

Dillard in the past has recommended shifting revenues from the sales tax on gasoline to replace the use of video poker money as a source for state bond-funded public works projects. On Monday, he said video poker was in Illinois to stay.

Dillard is finally getting closer scrutiny from the Chicago media, and it ain’t great. Natasha Korecki points out a few in her most recent column and ends it this way

When the Sun-Times asked Dillard whether rumors were true that he was thinking about voting against the pension bill to keep the possibility open for union support, Dillard was adamant: “I always supported pension reform,” he said then. “I can’t imagine I wouldn’t be [in support].”

He then voted against it.

So taking it all into account is Dillard’s clout issue just “one story”?

Maybe.

But if he isn’t careful, doubts about his credibility may begin to look like a “perpetual pattern.”

* Not to mention that Dillard and two of the other three Republican candidates definitely want the state income tax to sunset on schedule, which blows a $3.6 billion hole in state revenues the first full year of implementation, according to the governor’s budget office.

With that in mind

[Sen. Bill Brady], the only GOP candidate for governor who supported a new law in December curbing state employee pension increases aimed at closing the state’s $100 billion unfunded liability, also said the measure’s passage would mean the scheduled reduction in the state’s income tax rate should go on as scheduled in January 2015.

“It will save us at least $1 billion or $1.2 billion in the first year, which lets the income tax go away,” Brady said.

Only in Fantasyland is that even remotely true.

- Posted by Rich Miller        


28 Comments
  1. - Chicago Cynic - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 9:50 am:

    Dillard is imploding. Brady and Rutherford are invisible. Is it any wonder why Rauner is leading?


  2. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:00 am:

    Geez, how long has Dillard had to get this gas tax story straight? The Trib really put the wood to him.

    I think Cinci has confused the issue at least half a dozen times here trying to explain it.

    Cowboy up, dude, and take a personal interest in your business.


  3. - Anon - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:01 am:

    The backlog of state bills and the projected budget deficit (Quinn says it will be $16.2B by 2016) makes it irresponsible to further reduce state revenues. What happened to the conservatives who believed in paying their bills on time and to balanced budgets?


  4. - William j Kelly - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:01 am:

    Now if only Dillard would learn a lesson from rauner and figure out a way to make 32million on some gas company deal that goes bad. Then he would be ahead in the polls and have everyone eating out of his hands!


  5. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:06 am:

    Growing the economy is a popular refrain from people who want to lower taxes, but don’t want to truly address the revenue problem it creates. I don’t believe in the cut taxes, increase revenue theory anyway, but if you do you have to at least acknowledge that there will be a time period where you are taking in less revenue. It’s simple math.


  6. - Linus - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:09 am:

    - Only in Fantasyland is that even remotely true. -

    Absolutely. And it will remain enormously important for news media to start (or continue!) laying-out the full set of facts for readers and listeners: Even with recently passed pension reforms, the state’s budget is going to steer far more sharply into trouble if the income-tax increase is allowed to expire on schedule.

    And that means billions of dollars of cuts in education, health care, public safety, etc.

    And that - in turn - demands specific answers from politicians who would let this happen: Where, precisely, would you cut? And by how much?

    If you propose “cutting waste,” tell us: Exactly what waste? What’s the price tag?

    Letting candidates continue to slide on such details is tantamount to malpractice by those who report the news as well as by voters who say they base their ballot-box decisions on the facts and demand “the truth” from politicos.

    And - the choir has been preached to, yet again.


  7. - In the Middle - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:14 am:

    Puzzling.

    So, we’d lose $3.6 billion but supposedly gain $1.2 billion and that means we can sunset the state income tax?


  8. - 47th Ward - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:19 am:

    The best part of the Tribune story is at the bottom. Teens from the Mikva Challenge asked the candidates what their favorite TV show was. Brady answered Bonanza and Rutherford said Sea Hunt.

    I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time. Good stuff.


  9. - Ahoy! - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:22 am:

    So Dillard supported raising the gas tax before he was for lowering the gas tax to magically create new revenue? I buy it.


  10. - Frank - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:25 am:

    While we’ve all spent a lot of time this campaign season comparing Bruce Rauner to Mitt Romney for all the obvious reasons, we’ve missed the similarities between Romney and Kirk Dillard.

    Both made their reputations as moderate problem solvers. Both recognized that would be a hindrance to their primary campaigns. Both ran from their past political positions in order to avoid being disqualified by conservative voters.

    Romney went so far as to come out against his signature accomplishment as governor — healthcare reform. Dillard has, throughout this campaign, tied himself in knots trying to reconcile his current conservative posturing with past positions on major issues (see minimum wage.)

    They’re certainly not the first pols to run to the right in a Republican primary while planning on shifting to the center in the General. But there is only so much flip-flopping and parsing a candidate can engage in without completely straining their credibility.


  11. - ejhickey - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:25 am:

    “What happened to the conservatives who believed in paying their bills on time and to balanced budgets? ”

    some of us are still here and recongize the need for higher , not lower , taxes. for example illinois needs to start taxing all forms of retirement income.


  12. - langhorne - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:45 am:

    “bettin’ on em don’t make em win.” thats what my dad taught me at arlington park. a very important lesson that applies in most areas of life. dillard is a disappointment. he was supposed to be the tested and ready guy for the job. instead he is floundering all over the place.

    brady, i-almost-won-so-i-will-win-this-time, has standard conservative jargon and little more.

    did they ask their favorite tv show from the early 60s? bonanza was sponsored by rca to sell color tvs. thats why little joe would ride across the beautiful scenery to get help. i cant remember if sea hunt was in color or black and white. sheesh. talk about out of touch.


  13. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 10:55 am:

    47, “Bonanza” I can almost understand. It ran for 16 years and has been in reruns forever.

    “Sea Hunt” requires some explanation, I think. It only ran four years and hasn’t seen much in syndication.

    Did you ever notice that in “Bonanza” the main characters almost always wore the same clothes in every episode, year after year? They filmed scenes from multiple episodes at the same time, so they couldn’t mix it up for continuity.


  14. - 47th Ward - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 11:08 am:

    Bonanza. The story of a middle aged man and his middle aged sons.

    When a teen asks you what your favorite television show is, you might want to list something that aired in his or her lifetime.

    I really liked Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea when I was a kid (and it was old then too), but I’d probably say Seinfeld or the Simpsons if asked.

    Still, both Brady and Rutherford answered truthfully. Dillard said Chicago Tonight. Said it with a straight face too, from the WTTW studio.

    Pander much Kirk?


  15. - unspun - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 11:11 am:

    Maybe Dillard contradicted himself to save his running mate the trouble of doing it? He’s desperate and trying to latch on to any populist idea that may gain traction…


  16. - Wensicia - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 11:25 am:

    Dillard lost all credibility when he decided to pander to the far right. He hasn’t been called out on it much in the media or by the other candidates because he’s polling so low. But, I suppose you could call his low marks payback for his about face or new positions on many issues.


  17. - PoolGuy - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 11:47 am:

    actually Illinois’ GSP (or state GDP) was $695 billion in 2012. not questioning your numbers Rich, just not sure of Wiki’s figures since they appear to be BEA numbers also.

    http://www.statista.com/statistics/187863/gdp-of-the-us-federal-state-of-illinois-since-1997/


  18. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 12:03 pm:

    “…so they couldn’t mix it up for continuity.”

    Interesting. Or so that they had the flexibility to mix and match scenes to come up with an entirely new episode without a lot of additional filming? (Unless that’s what you said?)


  19. - DuPage - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 12:36 pm:

    Lower the tax on gasoline, that will add money to the state treasury.
    Sounds like a true/false question on a third grade math test. Right next to 2+2=5


  20. - Upon Further Review - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 12:37 pm:

    I have always felt it was lousy that Illinois taxes the same gallon of gasoline twice.


  21. - Ghost - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 12:46 pm:

    It occurs to me that if the state can use its pice powers to avoid constitutional obligations; then clearly it can use police powers to avoid mere contractual obligations. We have no debt problem, just pass a bill saying we won’t pay our overdue bills due to our fiscal problems under our police powers. After all if the state constitution doesn’t protect rights beyond a declaration of police powers, that includes contractual rights. State fiscal problem solved. We could withhold those fees from companies handling our investments; cancel repaying bonds. Pice powers can rescue us from all debt, if the court upholds it on pensions, there is no obligation we can’t skip out on. Yeah us!


  22. - Statesman - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 2:29 pm:

    It will be a fine day when the primary field is whittled down. That day can’t come soon enough!


  23. - walker - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 2:39 pm:

    Whenever Brady mentions a number, remember your elementary school arithmetic.


  24. - Think About It - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 2:41 pm:

    Common everyone….the point with Dillard is simple….we are paying some of the highest taxes on gas in the country. At least he’s putting some policy out there. Has anyone else? I”d rather he throw it out there and at least try and get our economy back on the right track.

    And speaking Rauner….why didn’t he clout his daughter into his own school “Rauner College Prep”. It’s her family legacy. What….that school isn’t good enough for her either! Unbelievable!! Displace a child who qualifies when she could go to the school with his name on it. His school suddenly isn’t good enough. That tears a big hole in his campaign, now, doesn’t it?


  25. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 2:44 pm:

    “…pice powers…”

    Dearest Ghost, are you talking about rupees or pitchforks, is it your beloved keyboard, or am I just being entirely daft right now?


  26. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 4:34 pm:

    ==I”d rather he throw it out there and at least try and get our economy back on the right track.==

    And put state government deeper in the red.


  27. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Jan 21, 14 @ 11:48 pm:

    You have to respect a guy like Bill Brady.

    Agree with him or not, at least you know what you’re getting.

    The guy is not a phony, like some.


  28. - econ prof - Wednesday, Jan 22, 14 @ 9:07 am:

    If the state would drop the gasoline tax to mirror border states (like Missouri), I think you would see sales tax revenues sky-rocket in border communities. I choose to fill up in Missouri, where gasoline is 24 cents/gal cheaper. Missouri has a plethora of gas stations and truck stops along the border, with parking lots full of cars with Illinois license plates.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Tomorrow's news today
* Oddities and ends
* Durbin launches second positive ad
* *** UPDATED x3 - Full Rauner response - Rauner issues statement - Quinn responds *** Question of the day
* Black radio ad slams Rauner for failure to hire a single African-American at company
* Today's chart
* *** UPDATED x1 - Quinn responds *** Rauner unveils ethics reform plan
* Today's number: 30 percent less likely
* Bigfooted by the Trib
* *** UPDATED x1 - Bustos responds *** Schilling ad attacks Bustos over budget cuts
* *** UPDATED x1 *** SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Supplement to today’s edition: Crosstabs, TV ads, cable TV buys and an events list
* Quinn moves to second negative track
* Rate Bruce Rauner's new TV ad: "100 years of failure"
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * Making the Switch: iPhone to Lumia
        * Android Wear messaging uses voice to reply to texts
        * Apple Receives One Out of Two Licenses Needed to Begin iPhone 6 Sales in China
        * Are these images of a Samsung Galaxy Alpha refresh?
        * BitTorrent opens Bleep Alpha messaging service for Android
        * Amazon unveils a host of new tablets: Fire HD, Fire HDX, and more
        * 5 fitness apps the developer of BodBot recommends you try today

        * How to Fix iOS 8's Biggest Annoyances
        * Chinese Giant Alibaba Is Ready to Become the Next Google
        * Even With Apple Pay Around, Credit Cards Are Still a Hotbed for Startups
        * The Future of Travel Has Arrived: Virtual-Reality Beach Vacations
        * Samsung SM-A500 Appears In TENNA
        * Jolt GoPro Wireless Charger Launches On Kickstarter (video)
        * Custom Mortal Kombat X Controllers Spotted

        * Royals 6, White Sox 2: Chris Sale roughed up
        * Following up: Adam Eaton's second half, Chris Sale's schedule
        * Gillaspie, White Sox solve Royals' bullpen
        * White Sox 7, Royals 5: Kansas City bullpen titans falter
        * Sale seeks another stellar start in KC, series win
        * Gillaspie, White Sox solve Royals' bullpen
        * Out call on Viciedo confirmed on replay


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        September 2014
        August 2014
        July 2014
        June 2014
        May 2014
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Quigley: Pro-business mantra serves Rauner well..
        * Chicago Is The Best Drinking City In The Whole .....
        * Rauner: Talks of IDOT Plan, Seeks Black Vote..
        * Quinn wants black voters to take another look..
        * Ruling expected on Libertarian's place on ballot..
        * Democrats criticize Rauner's silence on domesti.....
        * Rauner ethics plan targets lobbyists, lawmakers..


        * Ruling expected on Libertarian's place on ballot
        * Highland teachers, district resume negotiations
        * Wallenda: Spectacle, legacy inspire Chicago walk
        * Journalists criticize White House for 'secrecy'
        * Emanuel wants no more signs as large as Trump's
        * Warrant: SC dad feared 5 slain kids would kill him
        * Peoria forgoes search, promotes interim cop chief
        * Woman gets prison sentence in 5-year-old's death
        * Emanuel wants no more signs as large as Trump's
        * Herbicides indirectly kill fish in Manteno lake

        * Rochester resident to lead State Board of Elections
        * GOP appeal seeks to knock Libertarian gubernatorial candidate off ballot
        * Jesse White to focus on technology, highway safety if re-elected
        * Rauner’s ethics reform plan targets lobbyists, lawmakers
        * White to focus on technology, highway safety in fifth term
        * Quinn blasts NFL owners with dig at Rauner
        * Hundreds apply for jobs at northern Illinois federal prison
        * Rauner questions medical marijuana program secrecy
        * New subpoena issued for Quinn’s anti-violence program
        * Evans: Eliminate conflicts of interest in legislature

        * Could this Chicago cancer researcher find a treatment for Ebola?
        * 10 Things to Do
        * Hallways are her runways
        * Red Frog Events teams up with Coachella: report
        * Lawsuits allege Centegra fired workers to save money on health care


        * NU prof realizing genius grant is no prank
        * Tightwalk across the Chicago River is ‘real deal’
        * 16 suburban firefighters stranded in Mexico after hurricane
        * Salami-smuggling mob enforcer gets 15 years for gun rap
        * Trump happy over Emanuel crackdown on signs
        * Highland Park woman gets 5 years for killing 5-year-old girl
        * Probation officer suspended after teen’s assault on CSU student
        * Alleged “Orange is the New Black” kingpin must come to Chicago, court rules
        * Expert: Quinn’s handling of request to release subpoena ‘stinks’
        * Fioretti’s old campaign records ‘incomplete and disorganized’


        * 2 dead, 7 wounded in city shootings
        * Lawyers want to question Trotter about alleged $2,000 cash payoff
        * Lawsuit filed in last week's death of woman hit by CTA bus
        * Wallenda walks on wire, prayer and $20M insurance
        * Outfit enforcer gets 15 years in prison for gun conviction
        * Four charged in fatal shooting at River Oaks Mall
        * TSA boss: Passenger pre-screening to be new standard
        * Ex-sheriff's deputy gets 50 years in child sex abuse case
        * Cops: Man tried to assault girl walking to school on South Side
        * Third person arrested in fatal shooting of retired police sergeant


        * Indicted police commander suspended from duty 11 times, records show
        * Jekyll & Hyde: A Story Of Good & Evil At Muni
        * Despite Outbreak, Illinois Virus Cases Remain Low - Why?
        * Teen Arrested For Threat Against Glenwood High School
        * I Like Illinois Website Debuts, In Time For The Election
        * Cullerton: I LIKE Illinois!
        * Trauma Care Decision Highlights Competition Between Springfield Hospitals
        * Springfield Art Co-Op Founder "Blossoms" On East Coast
        * Springfield Mayor Houston Points Out Sewer Improvements
        * Mayor: We Are Doing Sewer Work


        * Christopher Mooney: Evidence in policymaking — no cure-all, but better than the alternative
        * Eugene Robinson: Hillary Clinton needs to tell us her vision
        * George Will: Obama needs Congress to approve this war
        * On Lincoln’s Side: Washington’s close call
        * Bernard Schoenburg: New poll, AFSCME nod help change narrative
        * Rochester resident to lead State Board of Elections
        * GOP appeal seeks to knock Libertarian gubernatorial candidate off ballot
        * Jesse White to focus on technology, highway safety if re-elected
        * Rauner’s ethics reform plan targets lobbyists, lawmakers
        * Quinn blasts NFL owners with dig at Rauner


        * Top of the Morning, Sept. 18, 2014
        * New Bradbury show celebrates JTG history
        * I-80 bridge reopens after police incident
        * Carbondale Rebound shooter pleads guilty
        * Davenport squad car T-boned, pushed into man mowing lawn
        * Play takes humorous approach to a fact of life
        * Fejervary Park cell tower moving forward
        * Fog early, then plenty of sun
        * Doctors Without Borders reps field questions
        * Another one bites the dust: Semi stuck on Government Bridge


        * Bartlett looks at $250,000 upgrade for Bartlett Hills clubhouse
        * Highland Park woman sentenced to 5 years for huffing crash that killed child
        * Dawn Patrol: 5 years for huffing crash death; Cuneo assistant guilty
        * Blackhawks open training camp with great expectations
        * Wife memorializes daughter, ex-husband killed by his DUI

        * Sean Hannity Battles Illinois Democrat Lui...
        * Fox's Hannity spars with Democrat over thr...
        * Hannity Battles Rep. Gutierrez: 'Not Contr...
        * Luis Gutierrez: Securing border 'sounds go...
        * Luis Gutierrez: Must Pass Immigration Refo...
        * Sean Hannity, Luis Gutierrez battle over I...
        * Hannity Clashes With Democratic Rep. Over ...
        * Gutierrez: Voting to Secure Border First "...
        * 'That Helps Your Ratings!' Hannity, Dem Re...
        * Gutierrez: Hillary Can Take Care Of Hersel...

        * Thousands of New Yorker Jobs Affected By C......
        * Thousands of New Yorker Jobs Affected By C......
        * Scott Air Force Base Finalist for New Air ......
        * Scott Air Force Base Finalist for New Air ......
        * Scott Air Force Base Finalist for New Air ......

        * Hoffman Estates Firefighters Stranded Afte......
        * Shangri La's Barr al Jissah ResortSpa to o......
        * ISIS fight: Congress to vote on arming Syr......

        * New Radar Gun Detects Drivers Texting Behind The Wheel
        * Indiana Ranks First In Out-Of-State Chicago Parking Tickets
        * Who knew Flying Wallendas were still around? They’ll be in Chicago soon
        * Small Compensation
        * Neil Steinberg compares opposition to Israeli policies and campus rape.
        * Richard Skoda’s dreams.
        * S.O.R.E. field trip. Town Hall with Senators Biss and Manar on school funding, Special Needs.
        * Learning Disabilities Association (LDA) of Illinois opposes SB16.
        * Chicago’s Marshall High School and Zombie education reform.
        * California public pension funds to hedge fund managers: “Drop dead.”


        * Rauner Launches New TV Ad: 100 Years
        * 100 Years
        * Bruce Rauner Announces Ethics Blueprint
        * Across Illinois, They’re Talking About Pat Quinn’s Corruption
        * New subpoena in federal probe of Quinn anti-violence grant program




            Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller