SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
*** UPDATED x2 - Radogno opposes *** Budget address to be delayed until late March

Monday, Feb 3, 2014

* Not unexpected…


Proposing a budget that lays out major cuts is something nobody wants to do before a primary, even when one’s primary opponent has no money.

But this is kinda wimpy, if you ask me. Let’s get it out there.

…Adding… Quinn’s office says the governor is also expected to outline a five-year spending blueprint. Says budget address has been postponed 13 of past 20 years.

*** UPDATE *** Hmmm

Chicago Teachers Union spokeswoman Stephanie Gadlin said it was no secret the CTU was planning a “mass rally around pensions” on the day of the budget address.

“The governor and the legislators can run but they cannot hide from their constituents who are trying to fend off a municipal pension heist by Rahm Emanuel,” Gadlin said. “Be it Feb. 19 or sometime in March—the CTU will be there.”

*** UPDATE 2 *** SGOPs…

Senate Republican Leader Christine Radogno on Governor Quinn’s requested delay in budget presentation:

“We have been accommodating when it made sense. For example, Governor Quinn’s first year in office. But to push back the presentation of the state’s budget by five weeks for purely political purposes is a disservice to the taxpayers. It’s an abuse of the legislative process and I resent it.”

- Posted by Rich Miller        


36 Comments
  1. - Formerly Known As... - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 1:33 pm:

    We’re bumping the governor’s budget address simply for the sake of his political campaign?

    Ridiculous.


  2. - Formerly Known As... - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 1:37 pm:

    In light of the “adding” part, that helps matters a bit.

    Still, it does seem kind of “wimpy”. Come one.


  3. - DuPage - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 1:39 pm:

    How is he going to project 5 years until he knows if SB1 is thrown out?


  4. - Give Me A Break - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 1:58 pm:

    DuPage you can make that argument for whenever he gives the budget address so what’s your point?


  5. - Bocephus - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:01 pm:

    So local school districts have to make budget decisions in March (personnel cuts, program changes, etc.) without any idea on school funding for next year. Cowardly!


  6. - Demoralized - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:03 pm:

    ==How is he going to project 5 years until he knows if SB1 is thrown out? ==

    You make projections based on the laws at the time (or laws you have proposed as part of a budget). You don’t sit around and wait to do the budget until you see what happens with SB1.


  7. - Demoralized - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:06 pm:

    ==So local school districts have to make budget decisions in March (personnel cuts, program changes, etc.) without any idea on school funding for next year==

    They never have any idea. The budget isn’t passed until the end of May. Schools are always forced to make assumptions.


  8. - MrJM - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:11 pm:

    When in doubt, kick the can.

    – MrJM


  9. - Give Me A Break - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:13 pm:

    13 out of the last 20 years, under both GOP and Dem. Govs, the Budget Address has been pushed back,often because of revenue estimates that could be higher or lower than current levels. Govs often wait to see “more solid numbers” before rolling out their budgets. Not cowardly, just using what they hope are more accurate numbers.


  10. - Ahoy! - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:14 pm:

    Is the budget address outlined in the Constitution or by law? If by law, lets just move it back permanently. It’s given so soon and then the general assembly doesn’t do much budget related until the later part of May anyway.

    Heck, the Governor’s budget address doesn’t currently matter.


  11. - Montrose - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:18 pm:

    This shift was not a question of if, but when. I would say it is political, but they are right about the majority of the time it being bumped to later. I think the fact that it is post-primary is just one more reason for the delay, not the reason.


  12. - Anon - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:31 pm:

    == school districts are without any idea about state funding ==

    If the income tax hike mostly expires during the middle of the next fiscal year, and if Madigan gets his corporate tax cut, it should be easy for school budgeteers to predict continued steep cuts in state funding. IL ranks 50th in state funding and doesn’t want any other state to capture that distinction.


  13. - Ghost - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:39 pm:

    with tax cuts and tax increase expirations this budget will be a peice of cake.

    its not like we have to pay our bills, just declare a fiscal crisis, and use the State’s police powers to inform debtors they wont be getting thier payments after all.


  14. - Formerly Known As... - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:48 pm:

    How many times has Quinn himself previously postponed the budget address?

    And if most of those previous delays were under Blago, it would be nice to know how many times the speech was delayed before Blago took office.

    I’m not sure we should be using Blago’s administration as the standard of “normal”, much less excellence.


  15. - Give Me A Break - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 2:55 pm:

    The Address was delayed in 1992, 1997, 1998 and 03, 04, 07, 08 10, 11, and 12.


  16. - Formerly Known As... - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 3:12 pm:

    This will be the latest budget address by far since 2003.

    Historically, “pushed back” means a week or two, not a two months. The length of this delay is definitely unusual. Here are the speech dates going back to 2003 (@Give Me A Break may have more handy):

    April 12, 2003
    February 18, 2004
    February 16, 2005
    February 15, 2006
    March 7, 2007
    February 20, 2008
    March 18, 2009
    March 10, 2010
    February 16, 2011
    February 22, 2012
    March 6, 2013

    Either the administration is playing games, or they are running abnormally behind schedule.


  17. - walker - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 3:22 pm:

    A lot of moving parts to this forecast, especially for the 5-year time frame.

    What do we really think will be occur: with the economy, the tax structure and rate, the pensions? Since the budget address has to assume current law, it becomes even less relevant than it might be.


  18. - AFSCME Steward - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 3:30 pm:

    Formerly Known As

    Since the Governor has no real primary challenge, probably to help contested Reps & Senators.

    “We’re bumping the governor’s budget address simply for the sake of his political campaign?

    Ridiculous.”


  19. - Anon - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 3:51 pm:

    Last time I saw that CTU spokesman’s name it was here. Must not have happened? Comes out swinging at her almost-boss.
    Quinn Hires Away CTU’s Stephanie Gadlin
    By Mary Ann Ahern
    Friday, Oct 25, 2013
    http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Quinn-Hires-Away-CTUs-Stephanie-Gadlin-229262711.html#ixzz2sIXxOwK6


  20. - Frank - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 3:51 pm:

    The CTU spin is completely goofy. First, the Governor’s budget address will have absolutely nothing to do with Chicago municipal pensions. Second, the General Assembly will still be in session that day, so their union members will still be able to lobby the legislature against changing their pension benefits. But I’m sure the media will blindly buy into this nonsense and regurgitate the CTU conspirarcy theory.


  21. - dave - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 3:57 pm:

    Wow…CTU is really making it harder and harder to be an ally of them. Their over-the-top rhetoric continues to more difficult to handle and support.

    Do they really think that the budget address was moved back because of a CTU rally? Silliness.


  22. - Formerly Known As... - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 4:04 pm:

    In 2009, our executive branch endured the chaos of impeaching our governor, replacing him, and organizing a budget address for his replacement during a national economic meltdown

    all more quickly than in 2014?

    Seems odd.


  23. - mokenavince - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 4:15 pm:

    No profiles in courage in Springfield.


  24. - DuPage - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 4:53 pm:

    @1:58PM, My point is it was rumored he was going to use about 1.5 billion out of SB1 “savings” for this years budget. If SB1 is reversed at that point, he could possibly cover it by cutting elsewhere. 5 years ahead, he might be spending closer to 7 or 8 billion that could be reversed. If SB1 is then thrown out he would have to make much deeper cuts. It just seems to me Quinn is giving new meaning to the term “going for broke”.


  25. - Juvenal - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 4:57 pm:

    The sunset of the tax hike is gonna blow a huge whole in the budget, but an FY 15 budget address that ignores that hole doubling in size in FY 16 is as fantastical as Bruce Rauner claiming the budget can be balanced by cutting employee conpensation, or those who like to argue it can be done by attacking “fraud and abuse.”

    Aside from that, The Speaker has called for cutting the corporate tax rate in half, and Quinn needs to lay out that scenerio.

    if it takes Quinn’s staff a few extra weeks to do it right, Radogno should be happy.


  26. - Phenomynous - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 5:05 pm:

    There are no SB1 savings in FY15.


  27. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 5:16 pm:

    Sen. Radogno - “I object to Governor Quinn’s delay”

    Guv.’s Office - “Overruled”

    Sen. Rodogno - “No, no, I strenuously object”

    Guv.’s Office - “Oh, that’s different!”

    “Commander Galloway” never disappoints.


  28. - Anonymous - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 5:18 pm:

    I suppose you can always start a whisper campaign to speed things up a bit.


  29. - Former Merit Comp Slave - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 6:07 pm:

    This may be a stupid question would the upcoming Maag decision have an impact and a budgetary reason for the delay? I hear the decision is in but the court not releasing it until sometime this month. Or could be purely political, who knows any more?


  30. - Pot calling kettle - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 6:14 pm:

    It takes longer to craft fiction than it does to write facts, so there’s that.

    If Sen. Radongo want a budget address sooner, she should give one. I’ve always wondered what the Republicans’ plan looked like; this is her chance to get out in front of the Dems.


  31. - leonard - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 6:20 pm:

    Illinois politics provide a considerable percentage of comics’ material. These guys and girls make a buck on fresh absurdities and our pollies are helping the comedy industry and therefore the economy.At least that a positive spin on the situation


  32. - railrat - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 6:48 pm:

    golden platter, the GOP “leadership” should grasp this opportunity to establish their financial platform and get some free “digs” into the other side of the isle at the same time !!!! oh that’s right its easier to point fingers, whine, cry point fingers and fight in-house than to formulate options for change! to bad Super Bowl didn’t have a commercial with Ill. Donkeys vs. beer Clydesdale’s……pathetic


  33. - Soccertease - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 9:15 pm:

    It’s true that budgets are crafted based on laws in place at the current time. However, at least two huge variables (SB1 and the tax expiration) make the formal budget nearly worthless.


  34. - Ghost - Monday, Feb 3, 14 @ 9:50 pm:

    me thinks the lady doth protest too much


  35. - Juvenal - Tuesday, Feb 4, 14 @ 8:22 am:

    Kettle:

    Wrong again.

    Budget fiction practically writes itself.

    The FY 03 budget was passed in record time.

    Ryan wanted to get out of town due to his criminal issues.

    Lawmakers wanted to hit the campaign trail due to the remap.

    So they essentially inflated the revenue projections.

    Despite the impact of the tech bubble collapse, 9-11, and the Bush recession, they adopted a budget based on the fiction of moderate revenue growth.

    Real budgets get harder to craft the further we move from base budgeting (whatever we spent last year, plus or minus X percent) and toward performance based budgeting, where expenditures are based on outcomes. We are moving from Connect Four to chess in the budget world, campers.


  36. - Joe Bidenopolous - Tuesday, Feb 4, 14 @ 9:12 am:

    - Juvenal - Tuesday, Feb 4, 14 @ 8:22 am:

    The FY 03 budget was passed in record time.-

    Budget fiction may write itself, but June 2nd budget passage and adjournment is not anywhere close to “record time”. For that, I’d look to 2000 and the FY ‘01 budget, when Pate and MJM really wanted to get out of town early - April 15.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Question of the day
* Emanuel blames state for phony school budget
* AFSCME: Cullerton plan "looks like extortion"
* BGA sues IHSA over FOIA
* Michelle Obama pledges "everything in our power" to help Quinn
* The consequences of budget cuts
* Meza wants to become involved in patronage lawsuit
* "Instant responders"
* Cullerton mulls a solution while the savants incite panic
* Here comes teh crazy - for real
* Caption contest!
* Today's quotable
* Adventures in state-funded stupidity
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * Cell phone unlocking bill passed by Congress
        * Verizon now offering Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 at a discount
        * The Week in iPhone Cases: Fixing a flat
        * Verizon to Begin Spot Throttling of High-Usage Customers on Unlimited LTE Plans
        * How to get photos from your digital camera to Instagram in 3 easy steps
        * What's the Best Way to Use Apache Cordova?
        * Why some phone chargers are faster than others (video)

        * Add a Special Bookmark in iOS to Zoom on Sites that Don't Allow It
        * Congress passes cellphone unlocking bill, Obama likely to sign it into law
        * How to Fix OS X Yosemite Download Problems
        * Donate Home Improvement Leftovers and More to Habitat for Humanity
        * Canadian court forces Google to remove search results worldwide, as fears of “memory hole” grow
        * This Week's Most Popular Posts: July 18th to 25th
        * Bose sues Beats over patents for noise-canceling headphones

        * White Sox shouldn't fear trading within the division
        * Noesi's arm, Eaton's bat lead Sox over Twins
        * White Sox 5, Twins 2: Noesi Dazzles
        * White Sox 5, Twins 2: Hector Noesi dazzles
        * Danks focuses in on Twins as series continues
        * Noesi's arm, Eaton's bat lead Sox over Twins
        * White Sox send Putnam to DL, recall Rienzo


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        July 2014
        June 2014
        May 2014
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Rauner Commercial Receiving Backlash - WICS-TV..
        * Gov. Quinn Donates $1000 to Cover Shamiya Adams.....
        * Brown County gets state funds for construction .....
        * Cook County to get $4.7 million for constructio.....


        * Illinois man gets 1 year in grant fraud scheme
        * Man, 18, charged in child death held without bond
        * Feds' immigrant figures may not give full story
        * Fast food workers prepare to escalate wage demands
        * Emerald ash borer found in central Illinois
        * McHenry man charged in woman's slaying
        * SIU to hold special election for student rep
        * Mayor speaks out on Chicago red-light cameras
        * National outdoor art show to hit billboards
        * Illinois woman dies rescuing boy in Wisconsin lake

        * Rauner continues push for Illinois term limits
        * Quinn 'deeply concerned' about immigrant children
        * Quinn anti-violence spending didn’t pull big votes
        * Gov. Christie to campaign for Rauner in Chicago
        * Business, labor: Speed up Illinois’ fracking rules
        * Teen collapses at Quinn campaign event
        * Quinn to OK marijuana use for children with epilepsy
        * Coalition: State must move faster on fracking
        * Illinois law a boost to ex-offenders seeking jobs
        * Statehouse Insider: Details, details. Rauner finally has details

        * Cook County health board selects new leaders
        * Chicago-Indianapolis Amtrak line losing subsidy
        * Obama aide says White House ready for Republican impeachment attempt
        * United's two-step program for better profits (and service)
        * Joakim Noah to address Chicago's street violence


        * Bike-shop mechanics help cops nab bicycle thieves
        * O’Hare employee accused of stealing from military foot lockers
        * Prosecutor: Shooter knew rival wasn’t in crowd but fired anyway
        * Employee at O’Hare accused of stealing from military foot lockers
        * 1 dead, 7 hurt in shootings Thursday
        * 1 dead, 8 hurt in shootings Thursday
        * Man free after 20 years in prison for murder he didn’t commit
        * Michelle Obama to Chicago donors: ‘Write the biggest, fattest check . . . you can’
        * Feds seek to extradite Emanuel’s ex-comptroller from Pakistan
        * New fuel isn’t right mix for Chicago


        * Ex-Woodstock teacher not guilty of battery charge
        * Chicago aldermen ask City Hall watchdog to probe red light ticket program
        * Chicago aldermen ask City Hall watchdog to probe red light ticket program
        * 3 teens injured during Lake Shore Drive rollover
        * Suit claims surgeon was called 'butcher' by chiropractor
        * O'Hare worker charged with stealing from military footlockers
        * House Ethics Committee continuing Rush investigation
        * Man charged with June murder in Marquette Park neighborhood
        * Prosecutors: Teen charged in Shamiya Adams killing wanted revenge
        * Police: Man pulled from river dies


        * Listen to State Week - July 25, 2014
        * Inspector General Discloses Political Hiring Investigation
        * Man Robbed By Fake Police On I-55
        * Illinois Sees Growth In Tax Revenue, But It Won't Last Long
        * Business, Labor Leaders Urge Quinn Administration To Finish Fracking Rules
        * Pullman to get an indoor sports facility
        * Board of Education approves "stop-gap" budget for 2015
        * After Water: Science, art and journalism around climate change
        * Illinois' Credit Prognosis: Negative
        * Questions raised about Daley's health


        * Quinn 'deeply concerned' about immigrant children
        * Gov. Christie to campaign for Rauner in Chicago
        * Business, labor: Speed up Illinois’ fracking rules
        * Neal Waltmire: Rauner inconsistent, irresponsible on taxes
        * E.J. Dionne: Blind ideological justice
        * Esther Cepeda: Tough calls on border kids
        * Teen collapses at Quinn campaign event
        * GOP Rauner's campaign ad used made-up headlines
        * Lawyers will push to speed up pension reform ruling
        * Bernard Schoenburg: Stocks-Smith considers another run for mayor


        * Top Gun LargeCar Shootout
        * The Fit List
        * House owned by former Urbana fire chief catches fire
        * West-end residents, businesses want action after shooting
        * Tom's Mailbag July 25, 2014
        * The Southern searching for Vietnam photos
        * Doris Wright
        * Bank robbers sentenced in federal court
        * Mayor speaks out on Chicago red-light cameras
        * Quinn 'deeply concerned' about child immigrants


        * Suspected meth lab closes Randall Road in Sleepy Hollow
        * DuPage board candidate pleads guilty in Wisconsin dispute case
        * Fisherman rescued from Fox River dam in Algonquin
        * Garth Brooks to perform 10 shows at Rosemont's Allstate Arena
        * Affordable Care Act on path back to Supreme Court

        * Congressman Dan Lipinski to host 3 events ...
        * House passes Lipinski bill for Herbie John...
        * Renaming of Mount Greenwood post office in...
        * Rep. Lipinski's Bill Improving Internation...
        * Rep. Lipinski Reacts to House Passing Bill...
        * Rep. Lipinski Announces $206428 Grant for ...
        * Rep. Lipinski's Bill Renaming Mount Greenw...
        * Immigration reform rally - WGNtv.com
        * Schock sponsors charitable giving bill - P...
        * House Passes Schock Charitable Giving Meas...

        * Amy Gehrt: Time to end tax-dodge shadiness...
        * Amy Gehrt: Time to end tax-dodge shadiness...
        * Amy Gehrt: Time to end tax-dodge shadiness...
        * Amy Gehrt: Time to end tax-dodge shadiness...
        * Amy Gehrt: Time to end tax-dodge shadiness...

        * Gang of Eight Republicans Promise: We're N......

        * The Beachwood Radio Sports Hour #9: Bulls Plan B, Bears Plan D
        * Schimpf forms Second Amendment advisory council
        * Revolving Door: Rubio staffer moves to U.S. Chamber as immigration lobbyist
        * Reeder: Why a 113 year-old Illinois company wants to become Swiss
        * The law's interest in contracts and marriage [video]
        * 7 Unit Building Coming To 4627 Beacon
        * "Stop deportations" sign during immigration reform protest near President Obama's Kenwood neighborhood home
        * Boy walks during immigration reform march near President Obama's Kenwood neighborhood home
        * Chicago Religious Leaders Hold Prayer Vigil To Highlight U.S. Incarceration Epidemic
        * Prison vigil


        * Governor Quinn Statement on Unaccompanied Children Crossing the US Border
        * Governor Quinn Welcomes New Class of Illinois State Police Troopers - 37 Police Academy Graduates Assigned Across the State
        * July 30 Hiring Event to Maximize Veterans' Non-Profit Job Opportunities - IDVA, IDES and U.S. Chamber Partner in first-of-kind event
        * Governor Quinn Signs Legislation to Improve Charter School Fairness and Accountability - New Law Makes Lottery Process Transparent and Helps Prevent Conflicts of Interest
        * Governor Quinn Signs Legislation to Help Combat Flooding in Illinois - Oak Lawn to Receive $12.7 Million in Stormwater Assistance as Part of New Law’s Expansion of Clean Water Initiative




            Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller