SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Question of the Day

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2014

Posted by Barton Lorimor (@bartonlorimor)

* Have a look…

Just because your opponent is hurling ridiculous charges does not mean you are free to disregard them. You may think it’s absurd to say that you are engaged in a “war on women.” But contempt for the accusation is not enough.

Some strategists argue that the key for Republican candidates is to downplay social issues in favor of economic arguments. I disagree. Pocketbook appeals are great, but the premise — that social issues damage Republican candidates — is shaky at best.

When Pew asked women voters to rank a list of issues in order of importance in September 2012, abortion was named less often than health care, education, jobs, Medicare, the economy, terrorism, taxes, foreign policy and the budget deficit. The only issues that ranked lower for women voters were immigration and energy. A post-election Kaiser poll found that only 7 percent of those who voted for President Barack Obama cited women’s issues as most important to their vote.

* The question: How much will social issues impact this year’s gubernatorial? Explain.

- Posted by Barton Lorimor        


32 Comments
  1. - Woman on Fire - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 12:23 pm:

    It will matter MUCH.

    Women are tired of working just as hard, if not harder, for less money. Just look at the salaries of female vs male state employees if you need examples.


  2. - TooManyJens - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 12:28 pm:

    Is equal pay considered a social issue or an economic issue, though? Although I think the split between those is overplayed anyway — anyone who ignores the way “social” factors such as race and gender affect and are affected by economic policy is missing something a vital part of the picture.


  3. - Timmeh - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 12:30 pm:

    It really depends on how distasteful the politician’s stance on social issues is.

    Is the politician pro-life? Is the politician Richard Murdock? Is the politician pro-life when Richard Murdock is in the news?

    Regardless of position on social issues, the politician needs to look like a caring adult. If they’re unable to do that, they’re going to breed distaste from the other side.


  4. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 12:32 pm:

    As much as Democrats can make them impact.

    I hear Rauner was at Tiffany’s over the weekend purchasing a diamond-encrusted muzzle for Oberweis.


  5. - 47th Ward - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 12:32 pm:

    Social issues will matter because Republicans don’t learn from their mistakes. Go ahead Republicans, take advice from the genius who writes this garbage:

    “The Democrats were sly. Obama’s Department of Health and Human Services slipped a mandate into Obamacare that requires all insurers to provide contraceptives for free. Not just to indigent women, but to all women.”

    As if. It’s not about “free” contraceptives, it’s about including contraceptives in health care coverage without additional cost.

    Please take advice from another Cultural Warrior. Pretty please.


  6. - OneMan - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 12:35 pm:

    Not as much as Pat Quinn would like….


  7. - Wensicia - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 12:47 pm:

    Social issues will have little to zero effect in this election. Rauner refuses to discuss them at all, and Quinn is focused on class warfare.


  8. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 12:53 pm:

    As much as Sen. Durbin points out Jim Oberweis’ “record” on any number of social issues, and the “responses” of Oberweis uses to refute actual quotes.

    “Oberweis/Rauner” - get use to it. Heard it on election night on Social Issues, (”we know about Oberweis, what do we know about Rauner?”) and if its married to Class Warfare, yikes.

    Durbin is the pace setter, Oberweis chasing will dictate its intensity of pace, and Class Warfare will be the prism Quinn wants the Social issues of Oberweis to stick to Rauner.

    Other than that…


  9. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 1:05 pm:

    When you have the law on your side, argue the law. When you have the facts on your side, argue the facts. When you have neither, bang the table and shout loudly.

    When you have fiscal issues on your side, debate the fiscal issues. When you have competence on your side, debate competence. When you have neither, call your opponent names, define him as a narrow minded hillbilly without class or manners, and claim he wars on others based on their race, gender, sexual orientation or wealth.

    When the economy is booming, debate the economy. When the ACA is a roaring success, debate the ACA. Since both are losers, claim that the GOP hates you, spend millions on ads claiming it, and pretend it is more important than either your ability to pay your bills, or select your doctors.

    Without social issues, Democrats have got nothing this election year - yet.


  10. - Frenchie Mendoza - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 1:06 pm:

    Won’t matter. Rauner won’t engage on any substantive social issue. He’ll ask for a “referendum of voters” or say that he’s “studying his options”. He will continue to refuse to engage and the media will (continue) to give him a pass.

    Rauner’s lack of substance is enough to score substantial votes with downstate voters and, I suspect, many disaffected Cook/Collar voters.

    It’s a sad day when no content scores higher than some content — even if you don’t agree with the content. Rauner, however, will attempt to prove that the no-content strategy is a winning strategy. He’ll insist that any social issue will best be left up to voters — presumably the same low-information voters who gleefully voted him in.


  11. - Chavez-respecting Obamist - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 1:08 pm:

    Social issues could have a major effect because Rauner refuses to discuss them. He doesn’t say anything, I am going to assume he agrees with Oberweis.


  12. - Almost the Weekend - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 1:15 pm:

    Social Issues are a lose-lose for GOP this election cycle.

    Rauner won’t discuss social issues, meaning the GOP social conservative entity will not be going to the polls in bunches on the first Tuesday in November.

    The possibility of Oberweis saying something inappropriate and categorizing the whole GOP ticket as ignorant, unjust, etc. is terrifying for Rauner and other down ballot races from congressional to statewide.

    If you ignore the issues you upset a large GOP block of voters. If you discuss the issues it’s a possibility for another Todd Aiken.


  13. - Ahoy! - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 1:18 pm:

    Zero unless there is a right wing 3rd party candidate that can get enough votes to play a spoiler.


  14. - Ray del Camino - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 1:22 pm:

    Social issues will matter a lot. I offer as proof Mona Charen’s claims that they will not. Methinks the pundit doth protest too much.


  15. - Downstater - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 2:12 pm:

    Social issues will not be a factor in the race for Governor or the US Senate. It’s all about the financial matters.


  16. - Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 2:16 pm:

    Not nearly as much as 4 years ago.

    Particularly with the treasure trove of media columns and stories during the past few months labeling Rauner as holding “moderate” to “liberal” stances on various social issues.

    Any time you try to paint him as a radical conservative on social issues, he can show you 6 to 12 months worth of media coverage saying the exact opposite. That label doesn’t change overnight, except in the eyes of the most blindly partisan.


  17. - Responsa - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 2:25 pm:

    Mona Charen is a DC based political columnist. This is IL and the senate race and the governorship do not have a darn thing to do with “social” issues.


  18. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 2:34 pm:

    Interesting to see that Chopper Jim joined Rauner and a full slate of Illinois GOP establishment types to urge the U.S. House to pass the Senate immigration reform bill.

    The times they are a changin’…..

    http://politics.suntimes.com/article/chicago/rauner-edgar-hastert-push-gop-immigration-reform/mon-04212014-1230pm


  19. - Jimbo - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 2:34 pm:

    The fact that Durbin is Durbin will be the most important factor in the Senate race, but Obie’s views will hurt Rauner. The fact that Rauner is supposedly moderate on social issues is the only reason he has a shot at suburban women. See Brady for an example of what happens when you are a hard right social conservative trying to oust an unpopular governor. It was enough to keep suburban women from voting for Brady, even if other issues were ranked higher in importance. If Rauner can lock up suburban women by distancing himself from Obie’s views, he wins. Jobs and the economy were much more important than social issues last time too, which is why it was close. No one could possibly think Brady lost for anything other than his social views. What was it then? The tax returns?


  20. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 2:38 pm:

    === No one could possibly think Brady lost for anything other than his social views. What was it then? The tax returns?===

    Upstate and Downstate Unions, the GOTV of the Teachers Unions, ASCME, Terry Cosgrove…

    All contributed…


  21. - Frosty The Snowman - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 3:22 pm:

    Actually, it was “the tax returns” (or lack thereof) according to a great many of my Republican friends. I was surprised at how many of my GOP friends told me that they decided “not” to support Brady 4 years ago when he refused to provide his tax return when asked to do so. Brady said he did not want his competition in the home building industry to see how badly his firm had been impacted by the ongoing recession. It was a poor political decision on his part. The former Brady Republican political supporters did not vote for Quinn but instead they chose not to vote for either gubernatorial candidate. That poorly thought out decision by Brady was statistically enough to have cost Brady the 30,000 votes that he needed to win the Governor’s Mansion that year. “Transparency” meant a lot more to GOP voters than Brady probably thought it would it mean.


  22. - Wumpus - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 3:27 pm:

    The GOP is actually showing some discipline this year in lerning when to shut up as certain things are beyond their control. Let’s ask the dog catcher candidate if he/she is pro life!


  23. - Stones - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 3:27 pm:

    I don’t think social issues will be as big this year as they have been in the past. Most campaigns are focused on the economy.


  24. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 3:40 pm:

    ===Actually, it was “the tax returns” (or lack thereof) according to a great many of my Republican friends…===

    Speaking to your friends in the bubble of your own making does not make it so.

    Further, Brady allowed the viewing of the returns, it was Plummer who didn’t. Maybe if you and your friends paid attention, your bubble might have facts.

    Hit the Search key, Rich even went into great detail of the post-mortem of the Brady loss, including being absent in Cook County.

    While your “circle” had the false impression of Tax Returns fuel their not voting for Brady, it was a complex recipe that sunk that campaign, social issues were an ingredient too.


  25. - Walker - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 3:44 pm:

    ===”Healthcare, immigration, jobs, Medicare”===

    — are ALL “women’s issues” where the Dems now have an image advantage over GOPers.

    The more narrow issues regarding reproductive health and choice, and pay equity, are no contest.

    Rauner’s only clear path to victory is to define and reinforce general economic fears and frustrations, and show confidence they will be overcome by him.

    Any focus on other issues will be wasting his time and money.


  26. - Keyser Soze - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 3:56 pm:

    The Bill Clinton mantra…..it’s the economy stupid…..will rule the day. Any candidate who defines themselve with social issues deserves to lose. Despite what we have been told, the Illinois economy is not in a recovery mode.


  27. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 5:21 pm:

    The most important Illinois issue should be jobs regardless of sex.

    In Springfield and Washington it will be where’s mine.


  28. - Streator Curmudgeon - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 8:05 pm:

    Rauner will HOPE social issues don’t enter the campaign, but that’s potentially Quinn’s greatest weapon. As bad as Illinois’ economy is, it could turn into an “out-of-touch rich guy” vs. the “middle class defending labor friendly average guy.” When it comes to button pushing, class warfare has more emotional punch than tax-and-spend.


  29. - Just The Way It Is One - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 8:07 pm:

    Ya gotta wonder why he IS trying so hard to do so, and BR may conTINue try his darndest to run away from social issues, but, in the end, such issues–and how the 2 Candidates stand on them–are going to matter a LOT as to how things turn out on November 4th…!


  30. - Jacob S - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 9:43 pm:

    I voted for Quinn in 2010 and I am Pro-life.

    I voted for him because of the Union. I will do so again even thou Quinn is not good to the public employees. Rauner is worse.

    I know many Pro-life women who voted for Quinn so he won due to the Unions.


  31. - Jacob S - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 9:46 pm:

    The democrats are only for “choice” in Abortion.

    In other issues, they want the government to run our life.


  32. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Apr 22, 14 @ 11:39 pm:

    =In other issues, they want the government to run our life.=

    Jacob S might be onto something there. ;)


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Oberweis now for gay marriage
* The patented Pat Quinn close has begun
* Question of the day
* McKinney resigns from Sun-Times: "I’m convinced this newspaper no longer has the backs of reporters like me"
* Another one pops
* Reality vs. reporting
* New anti-Rauner theme: "Wolf of Winnetka"
* Redefining Bobby
* Pat and Bruce
* The lindane file
* US judge orders hiring monitor at IDOT
* Underdog endorsements
* Birth control, millionaires and the minimum wage
* Good morning!
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * Digitizing classrooms with OneNote Class Notebooks
        * How to Use 'Instant Hotspot' On a Mac with OS X Yosemite
        * Barnes & Noble and Samsung release new Nook tablet
        * Inbox by Gmail gives you another way to look at email
        * Google Inbox, iOS 8.1 Jailbreak, Android Beam boost & more – Pocketnow Daily
        * Android Lollipop imminent, new Nexuses nearing, no more Nokia | Pocketnow Weekly 119
        * How Mia Mullarky made the world’s most a-mew-sing Lumia cat video

        * Smartphone Controlled Bionic Bird Hits Indiegogo (video)
        * Ford Announces New Pre-Collision Technology For Future Cars (Video)
        * Google Hangouts Android App Updated To v2.4 Enbales Voice Call Credit Display And More
        * Apple To Build 25 More Apple Stores In China
        * SensoTRACK Wearable Fitness Tracker And Health Monitoring Smart Earpiece (video)
        * Fein Oscillating Multi-Tool
        * B&O Play A2 Bluetooth Speaker Announced

        * World Series Game 2: Notes and discussion
        * 23 potential MLB free agents as SkyMall items
        * World Series Game 1: Notes and discussion
        * The e-gus off-season plan
        * Reading Room: A wild card of a World Series
        * Following same path as '59 White Sox, KC eyes title
        * larry's Offseason Plan


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        October 2014
        September 2014
        August 2014
        July 2014
        June 2014
        May 2014
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Bruce Rauner encourages women to get out the vo.....
        * Community Calendar..
        * Selig, MLB grateful for strides in fight vs. ALS..
        * Reporter quits Chicago newspaper, says governor.....


        * Chicago jail escapee sentenced to 36 years
        * Durbin, Oberweis face off in 1st US Senate debate
        * Biden in Illinois: Each vote for Democrats crucial
        * Indiana killings case prompts Illinois searches
        * Reporter resigns following Rauner complaint
        * Illinois adding press-box medical staffer
        * VP says Democrats working to protect middle class
        * Former Illini coaches speak at McClain's funeral
        * Editor defends Sun-Times after reporter quits
        * Court-appointed monitor ordered for IDOT hiring

        * Minimum wage increase supporters urge early voting
        * Sun-Times political reporter resigns following Rauner complaint
        * Minimum wage hike supporters urge early voting
        * Federal judge orders court-appointed monitor for IDOT hiring
        * Rep. Raymond Poe to undergo stem cell transplant
        * Bill Clinton campaigns for Quinn, Durbin
        * Quinn, Rauner spar over jobs, taxes
        * Election 2014: Learn about all the candidates
        * What to watch for in third governor debate tonight
        * U of I sees turning point as election nears

        * The cool chemistry of flame-resistant clothing
        * Ken Griffin says wife's claims are 'devoid' of merit
        * What's next as Sun-Times/Rauner story explodes?
        * Bob Fioretti, Nicki Pecori are engaged
        * Ebola? Biz travelers say 'meh'


        * ‘Narcissistic’ bank robber and jail breaker sentenced to 36 years
        * Critics on Emanuel’s choice for city treasurer: Good person, flawed process
        * Federal monitor will oversee hiring at Illinois Department of Transportation
        * CPS wants to delay new standardized test, even though state says 'no'
        * Scandal or not, Bring on that  federal monitor
        * New archbishop chooses modest rectory over traditional mansion
        * Father Bob Botthof, teacher who became priest after losing wife, dies at 85
        * Father Bob Botthof, teacher who became priest after losing wife, dies at 85


        * Jefferson Park woman reported missing
        * Woman, 33, shot in East Garfield Park
        * Durbin, Oberweis clash on immigration, health care in debate
        * 1 dead, 1 wounded in Richton Park shooting
        * Aldermen question speed cameras
        * Man charged with arson in Logan Square fire
        * 17-year-old charged in West Side man's slaying
        * Sun-Times reporter Dave McKinney resigns, calls time off 'house arrest'
        * Suspect in serial killings charged in 2nd death
        * CPS sells first shut-down school


        * Real estate and religion: The tale of Seventeenth Church of Christ, Scientist
        * Suspicion lingers over Ebola treatment
        * Judge Orders Court Appointed Monitor For IDOT Hiring
        * 13th Dist. Candidates Talk NAFTA, Ebola During Springfield Debate
        * Attorneys Due In Court For Quinn Hiring Lawsuit
        * Small Campaign Contributions Amount To Chump Change
        * Civic Fed: Lawmakers Once Again Taking Illinois Down Bad Budget Path
        * Cheddar's Leaves Springfield WUIS-SJR Business Report
        * Area Cub Scouts Burned In Explosion
        * Notes On The Final Governor Debate


        * Our Opinion: Frerichs has the expertise to be Illinois treasurer
        * Robert Kaestner: Good education policy is good health policy
        * Eugene Robinson: Warren makes the case for a presidential run
        * Bernard Schoenburg: Local Rauner ad leaves out ‘everything Springfield isn’t’ line
        * Minimum wage increase supporters urge early voting
        * George Will: In Kentucky, a constitutional moment
        * Sun-Times political reporter resigns following Rauner complaint
        * Federal judge orders court-appointed monitor for IDOT hiring
        * Our Opinion: Choice for Illinois comptroller comes down to experience
        * Rep. Raymond Poe to undergo stem cell transplant


        * Gaines Street closure begins today
        * Hog farming facility planned in Cass County
        * IC theater gets down to earth
        * Zombies are coming — run!
        * A beautiful fall day in Apple Creek Bottoms south of Belltown.
        * Our View: IDOT hiring monitor only sure solution
        * Letter: Time has come to turn around county’s schools
        * (No heading)
        * Rare piece of history uncovered in Menard
        * Eubia Bahl


        * Hundreds fill Vernon Hills gym to see Vice President Joe Biden
        * Football: Week 8 MVPs
        * Girls tennis: State tournament scouting, Northwest
        * Wednesday's results
        * Tri-Cities police reports

        * Patrick Cannon defense strategy rare but n...
        * Feds fine Jesse Jackson Jr.'s campaign com...
        * Ex-Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. faces sen...
        * Representative Jan Schakowsky Sends Letter...
        * Rep. candidate pushes to uphold marriage b...
        * Reps. Schakowsky and Waxman Introduce Bill...
        * Statement by Representative Jan Schakowsky...
        * U.S. House Passes Resolution Condemning An...
        * FAA Rejects Call For New O'Hare Noise Stud...
        * Representatives Quigley, Duckworth, Schako...

        * Ad nauseam...
        * Ad nauseam...
        * Endorsement for U.S. Senate: Dick Durbin...
        * Vice President Biden to return to Illinois......
        * Endorsement for U.S. Senate: Dick Durbin...

        * Officials continue push for funds to clean......

        * Guidelines And Tricks To Get You By way of Higher education
        * Mayor Looks To Squeeze Motorists More In 2015 Budget
        * City Clerk Announces New Push To Nab City Sticker Scofflaws
        * Poll: Illinois Governor's Race A 'Statistical Tie'
        * Report Examines Big-Money Influence In IL Guv's Race, Congressional Primaries
        * Dozen more days of anti-Quinn rhetoric
        * The True North Strong and Free...
        * The College Football Report: Jameis State
        * Chicagoetry: Sixteen Movies Ago
        * More Details About Decatur Classical School's Possible Move To Uptown


        * TV Breaking News: Ethics blow for Pat Quinn
        * Federal judge deals Quinn ethics blow on IDOT patronage hiring
        * Rauner Statement on Federal Hiring Monitor at IDOT
        * Governor Quinn Announces Ebola Task Force - Group of Healthcare Experts to Advise State on Ebola Response Efforts
        * New TV Ad: Endorsed




            Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller