SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Illinois lagging behind again

Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014

* Pot is really going mainstream in Colorado

The Colorado Symphony is giving new meaning to hitting a high note, announcing on Tuesday a bring-your-own marijuana concert series, the first of which features its chamber ensemble and South-of-the-border food and booze.

The U.S. states of Colorado and Washington became the first to legalize the possession and use of recreational cannabis in 2012, and the first retail pot shops opened in Colorado in January.

The orchestra’s “Classically Cannabis: The High Note Series” seeks to tap the blossoming market in a series of summer fundraising concerts, at a time when more than half of Colorado voters believe legalizing recreational marijuana has been good for the state, a recent poll showed.

The Denver Post newspaper reported the events are aimed at boosting attendance, including drawing younger concert-goers, at a time when the Colorado Symphony has struggled financially.

* Illinois is nowhere near legalization as of yet, but some folks are hoping to at least get a study going

The group [of four Chicago-area Democrats] held a press conference Monday at the Cook County building, calling for the state to decriminalize marijuana possession and — eventually — legalize recreational use of the leafy plant.

“The main difference between the War on Drugs and Prohibition is that, after 40 years, this country still hasn’t acknowledged that the War on Drugs is a failure,” Cook County Commissioner John Fritchey said, drawing a parallel with the outlawing of booze in the early 20th Century. […]

The group has yet to drop a bill in Springfield to legalize the drug and, in reality, substantive change is likely a ways off, the group acknowledged. At this point they just want fellow Democrats in the General Assembly to green-light a task force to study the issue. The hope, they say, is that Illinois will eventually develop a more laissez-faire approach to pot, which for now is classified a “dangerous” Schedule I narcotic by the federal government.

* Two bills have been introduced to decriminalize weed, and another would lower penalties. A poll taken in late March found that 63 percent of Illinoisans support a $100 non-criminal fine for possessing an ounce or less.

* From an ACLU study

The national marijuana possession arrest rate in 2010 was 256 per 100,000 people. The jurisdictions with the highest overall marijuana possession arrest rates per 100,000 residents were:

    D.C. 846
    New York 535
    Nebraska 417
    Maryland 409
    Illinois 389

• Cook County, IL (includes Chicago) made the most marijuana possession arrests in 2010 with over 33,000, or 91 per day. [Emphasis added.]

Sheesh.

But I’m not really a fan of decriminalization for two big reasons. First, criminals would still be controlling the cultivation and distribution of the drug. Second, decriminalization means no tax revenues. If it’s a step toward legalization, then fine. But only like civil unions were a step toward gay marriage. Decrim is not the final answer here.

Just legalize it already and let’s have a concert.

- Posted by Rich Miller        


34 Comments
  1. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:04 am:

    •– Cook County, IL (includes Chicago) made the most marijuana possession arrests in 2010 with over 33,000, or 91 per day. –

    Wow, that sure makes me feel safer out on the street!

    You laugh then you cry over the stupidity of it all.

    Imagine all the police hours on the street lost to processing marijuana arrests.


  2. - Chicago Cynic - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:05 am:

    Not just no, but hell no. I don’t care that 50% of the public in Colorado thinks its a good idea. I agree with the Colorado governor who said slow down to states rushing to legalize. Gov. Hickenlooper said this is having significant effects on the state and that others including Illinois should slow down and watch.

    They are selling THC-laden candy at conveniences stores, among other creative ways to get the whole state stoned. This is not a simple matter of our needing more tax revenue. I could not possibly disagree stronger with my many friends who want to legalize. Decriminalize? Sure. But slow the hell down on legalization.


  3. - Generation X - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:10 am:

    Utterly irresponsible and ridiculous to insist on tax increase after increase without looking at this job creating, revenue enhancing industry


  4. - PoolGuy - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:10 am:

    I support decriminalization if it keeps more people out of prisons for silly stuff like minor pot possession. but you make good points Rich. it’s heading in that direction, slooowwwly.


  5. - Nonplussed - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:11 am:

    There isn’t a whole lot of violence involved with pot. When you here about drug violence, how often does it involve pot vs heroin, meth or crack? To paraphrase Dr. House–”It’s never pot”.

    The administrative costs of marijuana possession arrests to a police force that is demonized for failing to tackle violent crime is completely irresponsible.


  6. - Bumused - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:13 am:

    Got me thinking of the movie What about Bob. Remember “Baby Steps”.


  7. - Skeptic - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:26 am:

    Maybe their concert series will include an orchestral version of “In A Gadda Da Vida”


  8. - PoolGuy - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:28 am:

    violence with pot is like one dude getting mad at another guy for eating all the cheetos. but there is violence at the dealer level over territory and control which decrim won’t affect.


  9. - Lefty Lefty - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:29 am:

    Is it 420 already? Where did the day go?


  10. - Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:30 am:

    “Just legalize it already and let’s have a concert.”

    Yes, Rich, yes.

    I tried to post a comment before on this thread, but it failed. I hope I don’t triple post, but if I do, I’m really sorry.

    We’ve had a long time to study the negative effects of keeping marijuana illegal.

    It’s also a rights issue, to me. Why should otherwise law-abiding adults be forced into the shadows of criminality for using weed?

    We are missing out on tons of revenue and economic gains, plus we are misusing our legal system when it could be better-used to pursue more serious crimes.


  11. - Formerly Known As... - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:41 am:

    == Cook County, IL (includes Chicago) made the most marijuana possession arrests in 2010 ==

    It would be interesting to see the arrest numbers since Chicago decriminalized marijuana on June 27, 2012.


  12. - Belle - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:53 am:

    Legalize it and let the State reap the taxes. Who knows what will happen with gang finances but whatever it is, life will change dramatically for all of them.


  13. - georgeatt - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:56 am:

    Must Il. Be last in everything. I’m tired of more studies and more talk: cannabis should be legal now. The Illinois legislature should quit stealing money from State retirees and draw in revenue from a marijuana tax on sales.


  14. - georgeatt - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 10:59 am:

    …and one more thing: stop the sofmoric pot jokes. They are so passed and tired.


  15. - RonOglesby - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 11:00 am:

    91 a day… I would bet it is a charge used a ton on the south and west sides. Cops roust any group and its pretty common someone is holding.


  16. - Plutocrat03 - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 11:03 am:

    Does anyone actually get jail time for simple possession without intent so sell?

    I suspect a fine with or without some probation is the norm.

    All we need to do is to sit back and watch what happens in the recreationally legalized states. If nothing happens like the advocates claim, then craft some legislation and move forward. If there are problems, learn from them and go in the direction the solutions to those problems point.

    If decriminalization/legalization is in the future, allow for the ability to grow this weed for personal consumption, much like home brewing.


  17. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 11:24 am:

    being arrested is more harmful,than the use of the plant ,it is cruel and unusual punisment for a victimless nonviolent crime.


  18. - Hickory - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:02 pm:

    I suggest that we let the States of Washington and Colorado be the test pigs. The results will let me know how to vote.


  19. - Precinct Captain - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:08 pm:

    ==It would be interesting to see the arrest numbers since Chicago decriminalized marijuana on June 27, 2012.==

    The ticketing was largely a bust, at least initially.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/23331575-418/one-year-after-decriminalization-pot-tickets-a-bust.html#.U2EtVvldWSo

    http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2013/11/01/mayoral-ally-thanks-police-for-ignoring-the-pot-decriminalization-law-he-sponsored


  20. - Precinct Captain - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:13 pm:

    ==Does anyone actually get jail time for simple possession without intent so sell?==

    Yes.

    From the Chicago Reader

    Chicago police made tens of thousands of arrests in 2009 and 2010 for marijuana possession, including 47,400 in which that misdemeanor was the most serious charge. So how egregious are the racial discrepancies? […]

    In those years 4,255 people pleaded or were found guilty of low-level marijuana possession after being arrested in Chicago: 89 percent were black, 9 percent were Hispanic, and 2 percent were white.


  21. - Precinct Captain - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:14 pm:

    ==Does anyone actually get jail time for simple possession without intent so sell?==

    Yes.

    http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-marijuana-arrest-statistics/Content?oid=4198958


  22. - Nonplussed - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:25 pm:

    georgeatt: ==…and one more thing: stop the sofmoric pot jokes. They are so passed and tired.==

    Can we agree to stop the passe and tired sophmoric jokes when you learn to spell?


  23. - strawman - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 12:57 pm:

    Nonplussed:

    It’s “sophomoric,” and “passed,” since you seem to care about proper spelling.


  24. - Ghost - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 1:06 pm:

    make it like the lottery. legailize it; make the State the oficial grower and seller; then auction off the rights to “manage” the growth and sales business to the highest bidder.

    use the money to cover the pension shortfall. pensions fixed with the taxes and marijuana; similar to our use of liquor and gameing taxes.


  25. - Wumpus - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 1:22 pm:

    Decriminalize it or make it punishable by fine if they are too scared to do that.


  26. - Jeff Trigg - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 1:22 pm:

    Not in Michael Madigan’s political lifetime. Probably not in Lisa’s either. Quinn or Rauner won’t do it. If you really want to see this change you have to stop supporting parties and politicians that still believe in prohibition.


  27. - Left Leaner - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 1:34 pm:

    So over this debate. Just legalize it already.

    Then take the tax revenue and use it to combat the abuse a prescription drugs, including prosecution of pharmacists and big pharma companies that knowingly contribute to the problem.


  28. - Anon - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 2:28 pm:

    Legalizing pot would be less harmful to society than putting video slot machines in every gas station, restaurant and flower shop in the state, and it would likely raise more tax revenue.


  29. - Formerly Known As... - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 2:45 pm:

    Precinct Captain - thanks for sharing those links. Very much appreciated.


  30. - A guy... - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 3:35 pm:

    If we weren’t managing government from one crisis to the next, a rational, intellectual discussion could be had on this subject. We’re a ways off.


  31. - georgeatt - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 4:53 pm:

    strawman : sorry…I should have known better than to use my tiny android phone. I don’t like the auto spell check either. Back on subject though: every bit of information points out that marijuana, is indeed, safer than alcohol and tobacco. That alone makes it a no-brainer to legalize for adult use. Marijuana prohibition is over, don’t let it die a slow death in Illinois.


  32. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 6:42 pm:

    ‘Yes.’

    Lots of stats about arrests, but no number regarding those sentenced to jail. Likely a small number. Prior history with the law likely a factor in jail time as well.


  33. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Apr 30, 14 @ 7:55 pm:

    school funding gone background check no job ,hey but no jail time right


  34. - Pensioner - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 7:19 am:

    One of the few topics I agree (gasp) with libertarians. People have the right to take whatever substance they choose. None of any govts business. Monumental waste of time and money.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Unions file suit in St. Clair County
* Reader comments closed for the holiday weekend
* AG Madigan files TRO
* In re James Dimas
* Question of the day
* Weirdest. Oppo Dump. Ever.
* Big bucks reported by Zopp, Raja
* LIVE Comptroller Munger press conference coverage
* Yet another clock starts ticking down
* Hey, Cardinal fans...
* Rauner makes cheery visit to Illinois State Museum
* The Tier 2 difference
* *** UPDATED x4 *** Attorney General goes to court
* Credit Unions – Protecting Financial Futures
* GOP legislator wants "temporary, balanced budget"
* Food for thought
* The blame game
* Meanwhile, in the real world...
* When Indiana invaded Illinois
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * Watch YouTube videos on your Android Wear with new app
        * Google Chrome hits 1 billion downloads on the Play Store
        * The LG Nexus 5 (2015) will not be based on the G4
        * LG G2 to reportedly receive an update to Android 5.1.1 Lollipop
        * Dropbox to offer more free storage if users improve their account security
        * Upcoming Samsung Galaxy A8 appears in South Korean brochure
        * Infographic: How to use Samsung’s S Health app to achieve your fitness goals

        * Happy Independence Day From Re/code: Here Are Some Patriotic GIFs!
        * Pinterest Buyable Pins: This Week in Social Media
        * Check Out The Latest High-End Gaming PC From iiyama
        * Take Stunning Full HD Video With JVC’s Latest Quad Proof Full HD Camcorder
        * Volvo Want To Make Cars Safer For Kids
        * Japanese Court Orders Google To Scrub Records On Man’s Arrest
        * Online Streaming Doubles In 2015, Digital Downloads Sees 10% Drop

        * Danks backs up comments with strong outing
        * Abreu's HR all Danks needs against Orioles
        * White Sox 1, Orioles 0: John Danks, out of nowhere
        * Samardzija takes on Orioles in holiday matinee
        * Abreu's HR all Danks needs against Orioles
        * White Sox sign first-round pick Fulmer
        * Sale given extra day of rest, will face Buehrle

        ...............


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        July 2015
        June 2015
        May 2015
        April 2015
        March 2015
        February 2015
        January 2015
        December 2014
        November 2014
        October 2014
        September 2014
        August 2014
        July 2014
        June 2014
        May 2014
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Illinois mired in uncertainty over budget - Voc.....
        * Bill would allow cameras in Illinois nursing ho.....


        * Illinois city condemns childhood home of actor Dick Van Dyke
        * Bill would allow cameras in Illinois nursing homes
        * Sandbagging effort keeps floodwater at bay in Meredosia
        * Woman known for trying to sneak on planes released from jail
        * Danville condemns childhood home of actor Dick Van Dyke
        * Thousands truckin' to Chicago for final Grateful Dead shows
        * 8 shot even as Chicago officers work long hours over holiday
        * Could insulin pills prevent diabetes? Big study seeks answer
        * Without a budget, providers prepare, officials go to court
        * Union lawsuit seek full pay despite no Illinois budget

        * Bill would allow cameras in Illinois nursing homes
        * State employee lawsuit seeks assurance of full pay despite no budget
        * U of I freezes administration hiring over budget
        * Attorney General Lisa Madigan seeks court ruling on state payments during budget impasse
        * Illinois EPA: State has landfill capacity for 21 more years
        * State lawmakers point fingers over budget impasse; temporary budget in limbo
        * Former Illinois treasurer employees under Dan Rutherford sue over firings
        * Lawmakers point fingers over budget impasse; temporary budget in limbo
        * Illinois medical marijuana patients now number 2,600
        * Budget impasse shuts down Lincoln's Challenge program for troubled youths

        * Leo Burnett loses Special K
        * Aetna to buy Humana in $37 billion deal
        * Illinois weathers second day without state budget
        * Yelp calls off sale talks—for now
        * How a Reddit rally generated huge turnout for Sanders in Madison


          * Chicago police officers sue over tattoo cover-up rule
          * 1 killed, 2 wounded in shootings
          * City pays $1.2 million in penalties to paramedics
          * Madigan is face of Democrats in battle with Rauner
          * Pilot killed after crashing small plane in DuPage Forest Preserve in Bartlett
          * Mayor Emanuel faces tough trek toward 'grand bargain' for shoring up CPS
          * Follow our live coverage of the Fourth
          * Man who exposed himself to girl sought


          * Coping while black: A season of traumatic news takes a psychological toll
          * Rauner proposal would advance $450M to help Chicago schools
          * For same-sex marriage opponents, the fight is far from over
          * Emails show Emanuel, top officials aware of Clinton's private address
          * After pension payment, Chicago Public Schools to make $200M in cuts
          * CPS, Emanuel warn of deep cuts, layoffs to school district
          * After marriage equality, what's next for the LGBT movement?
          * The night Chicago politicians spent punching each other in the face
          * The legacy of Willie Dixon on his 100th birthday
          * Preckwinkle may reevaluate sales tax plan if Springfield acts on pensions


          * Kenny Hartman: EPA stifling input on renewable fuel changes
          * Bill would allow cameras in Illinois nursing homes
          * Charles Krauthammer: The worst agreement in U.S. diplomatic history
          * State employee lawsuit seeks assurance of full pay despite no budget
          * Our Opinion: Springfield's toilet paper caper exposes the worst and best in people
          * Esther Cepeda: Adding a woman to $10 bill an empty gesture
          * U of I freezes administration hiring over budget
          * Attorney General Lisa Madigan seeks court ruling on state payments during budget impasse
          * Illinois EPA: State has landfill capacity for 21 more years
          * Our Opinion: Winslow looks to heal divisions


          * Top of the morning, July 4, 2015
          * Washington brothers achieve Eagle Scout rank in Morton ceremony
          * Anderson advances, Ram bows out
          * Langley still atop tourney
          * Decision day for five-star guard
          * Rice, Egwu dream big
          * Area soccer aficionados predict Cup final
          * Fireworks: Champaign Country Club
          * Fireworks at the Champaign Country Club
          * Sports Talk 07-03-15


          * Mosque bombing kills 15 al-Qaida fighters in Syria
          * Egypt's president visits troops in embattled north Sinai
          * Murder complaints filed over capsized Philippine ferry
          * Africa's soccer strongman a candidate for FIFA president?
          * Illinois State Police add July 4 patrols, roadside checks

          * House lawmakers overcome hurdle on key tra...
          * Rodney Davis talks funding with Bloomingto...
          * The agency that fought Illiana gets a new ...
          * Rep. Dold takes educational cruise down Ch...
          * Lawmakers decry high turnover rate of VA h...
          * CBD Oil, and politics
          * Simon considering state Senate bid
          * Killer Congressman Tom MacArthur trying to...
          * Shutdown? State may not notice
          * Rep. Bob Dold

          * Durbin, Kirk working together on U.S. atto......

          * Durbin, Kirk working together on U.S. atto......

          * Rahm has gone from the F word to the B word.
          * The NEA RA rolls into its first day with a focus on race and racism.
          * Geek Gets Up Early Saturday Morning for WGN Radio 720 AM
          * Parking Patrons Risk Boot At Wilmette Dairy Queen
          * Will we have a state government ‘shutdown’ where nothing shuts down?
          * Bang for the Bucks
          * EXTRA: What would Paul Reuschel hot dog be? Biittner or Jose Cardenal?
          * Kirk disappointed Ex-Im Bank will expire at midnight
          * Where's Weyermuller? With Donald Trump in Chicago
          * NRA and Illinois State Rife Association endorse LaHood


          * State, Teamsters Reach Tentative Agreement - Workers at IDOT, DHS, IDES, and CMS in Cook County to Vote on New Contract
          * Governor Rauner Extends Tax Filing and Payment Deadlines for Businesses and Individuals Impacted by Recent Tornado - Deadlines Pushed to December 31, 2015
          * Illinois EPA Releases Annual Report on Landfill Capacity
          * IDNR Urges Public to Leave Fireworks Displays to Those Who Are Licensed and Trained - Fireworks Show Sponsors Reminded to Check Credentials of Fireworks Vendors
          * Governor Receives Initial Criminal Justice Commission Report




              Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller