* Bruce Rauner spent months bashing state employees and their unions, but now wants them to help take down Gov. Pat Quinn. From a press release…
CALL (855) PAT-TIPS
Bruce Rauner’s campaign today launched a statewide whistleblower tip line for citizens who wish to anonymously report incidents of corruption, including patronage hiring and misuse of state funds. The “Pat Quinn Corruption Hotline” comes amid reports that Pat Quinn and his administration are under investigation by the state’s inspector general for illegal hiring practices and separately under investigation by the Cook County State’s Attorney for misuse of state anti-violence funding.
On Wednesday, Gov. Quinn’s lawyer confirmed to a federal judge that the state inspector general is investigating allegations of illegal patronage hiring at the Illinois Department of Transportation. Also Wednesday, the Chicago Sun-Times broke the news that the Cook County State’s Attorney had issued subpoenas probing alleged misuse of funds in a Quinn anti-violence program. Yesterday, Illinois Senator Mark Kirk and several members of the congressional delegation requested a federal investigation into whether Quinn misused federal stimulus funds to subsidize or justify patronage hiring.
“Pat Quinn has expanded Rod Blagojevich’s culture of corruption in Illinois and these investigations are just the tip of the iceberg,” Rauner campaign spokesperson Mike Schrimpf said. “We know there are good, honest, hard-working people around Illinois who have information about Pat Quinn’s corruption and patronage schemes. If you see something, say something – call the toll-free Quinn Corruption Hotline at 855-PAT-TIPS and report Pat Quinn’s wrongdoing. The people of Illinois deserve to know the truth.”
The Quinn Corruption Hotline accepts anonymous tips. Caller identities will be protected to prevent political retaliation. Tips can also be emailed to stopcorruption@brucerauner.com.
Later today, from 11:30am to 12:30pm, Rauner campaign volunteers will be outside the James R. Thompson Center (100 W. Randolph Street, Chicago) to distribute information about the hotline to state employees during their lunch breaks. Media are invited to film b-roll.
Discuss.
*** UPDATED x1 *** Gov. Quinn established a similar thing in 2009…
Governor Pat Quinn backs government watchdogs
Launches Whistleblower.Illinois.gov to crack down on corruption
CHICAGO – April 15, 2009. Governor Pat Quinn is urging government employees and taxpayers to demand integrity and honesty in state government by blowing the whistle on corruption. To advance this effort, Governor Quinn is launching Whistleblower.Illinois.gov, an interactive website that allows watchdogs to easily report suspected government corruption.
“Today is the deadline for filing U.S. tax returns that support and pay for our government. So it’s especially fitting that we demand our elected officials always operate in the taxpayers’ interest,” said Governor Quinn. “When an official betrays the public’s trust, it’s often a whistleblower that helps bring that injustice out in the open.”
Governor Quinn added that those who blow the whistle on waste and fraud in government are protected from official retribution by the Illinois Whistleblower Reward and Protection Act. In 1991, then-State Treasurer Quinn spearheaded passage of the Illinois whistleblower law.
In 2008, the Illinois Whistleblower Act was expanded to include all levels of government in the state. Since the act was strengthened, the state can collect up to three times the amount lost to fraud, along with fines up to $10,000. A whistleblower can get up to 30% of the amount recovered as a reward for upon completion of a successful whistleblower suit.
The new website, Whistleblower.Illinois.gov, provides concerned citizens details on the Illinois Whistleblower Act and advice on how to report corruption.
* Also OneMan is at the Thompson Center…
Not many people there.
- Oneman - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:31 am:
Cleaver move…
Even if nothing comes out of it, you get the line of
“Over X calls came in about corruption”
- Johnnie F. - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:35 am:
How much is he paying per tip? Everything else in his campaign is bought.
- Walker - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:38 am:
Almost laughable.
I do love how Rauner can and will use any imaginable tactic to win. He should sponsor a contest, with monetary prize of course, to come up with whatever group action can gain him more publicity and support.
What next? Sit-ins at IDOT projects?
He’s like the old SDS or Black Power radicals, but with unlimited money to burn.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:41 am:
@FakeSheilaSimon - hey Bruce! You are running for Huv, not as a Law Enforcement Officer. Learn your role #PotKettkeThing
To the Post,
This idea that Pat Quinn is “worse than Rod” is evolving, and the optics of what is happening in real time is fueling a tact, but after bashing, and threatening, and warning state workers, especially Union state workers, the audacity of Schrimph and Rauner and that whole Crew reminds me more of Rauner being like Rod than Quinn.
What is this, “Bruce Rauner, your CSI Specialists”?
Slippery slope with the hotline;
“I called the Rauner Hotline, and they never followed up!?”
The Rauner Crew can’t even fill Ground Game positions, now they need to bring on board recent Criminal Justice grads to track down all these calls to seem “responsive”
Why add the headache?
“Bruce Rauner doesn’t care about corruption. I called 4 times and got no follow through.”
Why open yourself up for THAT?
- Commonsense in Illinois - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:43 am:
So let’s see…if employees come forward with “tips”, it makes Mr. Rauner’s case that union bosses and the Quinn Administration are indeed as corrupt as previous administrations. If employees don’t come forward, then they’re to be perceived as part of the corruption and every bit as despicable as union bosses and the Quinn Administration.
Nice…
- Empty Chair - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:44 am:
Doesn’t he run the risk of encouraging state employees to engage in political activity on state time? State employees already have a recourse at their disposal should they spot corruption - the Executive Inspector General. Every state employee’s new-hire training reviews what to do when you spot FWA. This is a dangerous stunt.
- Wensicia - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:45 am:
What, the Tribune editorial board isn’t suppling him with enough details?
- VanillaMan - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:45 am:
When your opponent is seen by voters as an honest guy, then you ask voters to reconsider that assumption.
If Pat Quinn wasn’t seen as the bumbling, incompetent, rambling - but honest guy in office, what difference is there between Quinn and Blagojevich? Besides hair?
That is what Rauner wants us to believe.
Rauner wants to convince voters that with Blagojevich and Ryan locked up or on parole, the parade of corruption still exists - and that he is the antidote to end it.
- Bob Hicks - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:46 am:
Good press pop. Remember Governor is an honest man, ethical and carries a Super 8 discount card. Ha! He wrote the book on patronage with Dan Walker.
- Roadiepig - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:46 am:
Doesn’t even matter if the hotline even receives one legitimate case of corruption/patronage provided to it- the public will read the headlines and will believe that it is widespread. If not, why would Rauner go to all the trouble of setting up a hotline?
Like Oneman said- all that matters is that in a week or two Rauner’s campaign can report that they have received hundreds of calls, and lawyers are looking into the allegations. Maybe a steady drip of “An anonymous source at the DNR reported that their office hired several ghost pay rollers”, or something to that effect, to remind the public who Quinn has been for the last 40 or so years.
Things like this write the stories( for the IPI, Illinois watchdog, and others) for themselves. Anyone who doesn’t think he is getting the best political operation (media wise, anyway) for all the cash his is spending are living in denial…
- Wumpus - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:47 am:
oswego, all 4 of those calls will be asking about his Lt Gov partner, so those get trashed.
- Mighty M. Mouse - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:48 am:
Rauner isn’t merely pathologically 100% shameless, what’s much worse is that he’s socially dangerous.
- GA Watcher - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:49 am:
I wish Mr. Rauner et al would spend as much energy on informing us about his specific plans for Illinois if elected Governor as they do playing US Attorney.
- Walter Mitty - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:51 am:
This is genius. He is NOT against the Unions. The Union Bosses. This helps get the narrative out that Quinn is a bad guy. And shows, the perception with the rhetoric. The workers are not the problem, it’s the corrupt politicians and “union bosses” and let’s the even more important block of undecided fed up voters to be emboldened to vote against Quinn.. Pretty smart.If the roles were reversed, comments would be nothing but positive. He is out Quinning…Quinn.
- Skeptic - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:51 am:
Isn’t that what the Office of the Inspector General is supposed to do? And by giving these “tips” to Rauner, doesn’t that compromise the very mechanism in place to deal with this sort of thing?
- Bored Chairman - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:54 am:
As usual, most of the commenters here suffer from anti Rauner Derangement Syndrome. It’s a clever move to undermine Quinn’s one perceived virtue - honesty.
- PoolGuy - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:00 am:
state workers finished their annual ethics training in March and April. they are instructed to call their department’s ethics officer or the OEIG to report stuff like this.
you don’t call a guy running for Governor to report this. wouldn’t that be political in itself or potentially unethical?
just another stunt. would rather know how he can cut taxes and still fund education, pensions, roads, etc. at current levels.
- Walter Mitty - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:04 am:
GA Why would he do that? PQ is giving creedence to the narrative the Rauner campaign ran on… The simple question is posed now. In the last week, many of the people of this state want to leave, the fighter for the common man is corrupt… Why do anything different than letting your narrative play out? If the situation were reversed, would you ask for this? Spend time building the ground game. PQ is and will be the best campaign asset to Rauner from here on out.. Take care of your organization. Build the ground game.
- Frenchie Mendoza - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:09 am:
The legal implications of reporting something — to a political candidate, completely unaffiliated with state government — seem quite dangerous.
I see this as backfiring — in a big way. Rauner’s essentially baiting on-the-clock state employees to become part of a political campaign. Any employee who does this — on or off the clock — is crazy.
- Mouthy - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:20 am:
Smart.
- Jen - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:25 am:
Does this mean we get to hire people? Its been years
- Grandson of Man - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:25 am:
“just another stunt. would rather know how he can cut taxes and still fund education, pensions, roads, etc. at current levels.”
I agree. Let’s get going with some of the policy stuff. Many agree that the state is in bad shape in some ways and can do better. What are we going to do to solve our problems? If Rauner truly is the better candidate, we need to see his plans.
“I see this as backfiring — in a big way. Rauner’s essentially baiting on-the-clock state employees to become part of a political campaign.”
At the level I and everyone else I know work, I don’t see the corruption that Rauner wants to root out. Folks are focusing on doing their jobs, like workers and managers everywhere else.
- D.P.Gumby - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:31 am:
Is Quinn going to run a hotline for all the people killed and individuals ripped off by Brucie’s businesses?
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:33 am:
===Bruce Rauner’s campaign today launched a statewide whistleblower tip line for citizens who wish to anonymously report incidents of corruption, including patronage hiring and misuse of state funds. ===
Wasn’t it “Slip and Sue” Sanguinetti who saw corruption but didn’t report it? I may be wrong, but let’s revisit this with “Slip and Sue” and hear what she said;
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-08/news/ct-met-bruce-rauner-running-mate-1009-20131009_1_bruce-rauner-adm-illinois-state-fair
“Sanguinetti was an assistant attorney general handling workplace discrimination and wage issues under former Republican Attorney General Jim Ryan. While in the job, she said, “from a distance, though, I saw the corruption. I saw the insider dealings. I saw the special-interest back-scratching. It shocked me.”
But Sanguinetti did not say whether she reported any instances of corruption to her bosses or authorities.”
Maybe she will head up these CSI Ivestigations?
- Skeptic - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:34 am:
“most of the commenters here suffer from anti Rauner Derangement Syndrome” No, that’s not it at all. Let’s say someone calls in a “tip” that you did something that appears to be corrupt. Where does the information go from there? Who’s responsible for confidentiality? If the information goes public, how will affect your livelyhood? Where’s the due process? What recourse do you have? It’s either a stunt (go tattle on people for me!) or a witch hunt depending on how far it goes. And if Quinn or some other candidate (if there are any?) did the same thing, it’d be equally horrifying. You see it as an attack on Quinn’s honesty. I see it as an intrusive over-reach by a self-proclaimed policeman.
- Frenchie Mendoza - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:45 am:
—
… I see it as an intrusive over-reach by a self-proclaimed policeman.
—
Who is, at the moment, a nobody. He’s not a lawyer, he’s not employed by the state, he doesn’t hold elected office. It’s a frighteningly dangerous thing to ask a state employee to do — and something that seems (to me, at least) to put all the risk with the state employee and none of it with the Rauner campaign.
It seems one of the more appalling things I’ve seen this campaign season — yet I suspect it’s exactly how Rauner operates (and thinks). His disdain for state employees couldn’t be more obvious.
- Louis G. Atsaves - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:45 am:
Out stunting the King of stunts. Will Quinnochio also be in front of the State Building today?
Pretty impressive when you can start beating someone at their own game. HBO has “Game of Thrones.” In Illinois, it is called “Game of Stunts.”
- Walter Mitty - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:51 am:
Frenchie… Do you share the same disdain for Quinn using state money for his re-election? Anytime someone wants to spend their money, not mine. Is much better. Average citizens would agree.
- Pre - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:51 am:
Ring Ring…
Hi. This is Bruce and you have reached the Pat Quinn Corruption Hotline. To better direct your call please listen to these options to better direct your call.
If Pat Quinn or one of his colleagues lied to you, press 1 for Quinnocchio.
If you want to talk to one of my 22 year old interns that won’t know what to do with your complaint press 2.
If you are tried of your Illinois DOT job and would like to be a paid consultant for my campaign press 3. There is always room for more!
- Shark Sandwich - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:57 am:
It’s dangerous. Assume someone calls in with a real, bonafide instance of criminal corruption - Rauner either taints the investigation, or alerts (via press release) the fraudsters so they can cover their tracks?
- Sprockets - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 11:59 am:
I gotta say, these Rauner folks are fun to watch. If you’re a campaign person and you’ve ever sat around a table floating ideas (but never having the money to fund them) you have to admit it would be a blast to work there. “Let’s set up a corruption hotline!” Write the check. “Let’s rent a guy with a pinnochio nose through the campaign.” Write a check. “Let’s drop fliers from airplanes, saying ‘Bruce Rauner is coming to protect you from Pat Quinn. Stay strong!’”
TV, radio, print — that’s covered. What else can we do?
What a hoot!
- Huh? - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:06 pm:
BREAKING: Feds looking at Quinn anti-violence program
http://politics.suntimes.com/article/springfield/breaking-feds-looking-quinn-anti-violence-program/thu-05012014-1122am
- Here we go... - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:08 pm:
Rauner “The CORRUPTER” with another press stunt. Priceless!
How ironic is it that Rauner who will buy off everyone and anyone to serve his personal/professional needs is comparing Quinn to Blago - when the fact is that Rauner is the prime example and the root of all corruption - MONEY!!!
This guy is just bad news - hopefully the public will see him for who he really is before it’s too late. He’ll make Blago look like an angel.
- Anthony - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:08 pm:
Truly insulting and offensive to this taxpayer/voter of the State of Illinois Mr. Rauner. I would prefer to give you the reasons why in person so the “meaning” could not be misunderstood. Amateur move IMO for a so-called leader. May I suggest the team building section of ANY leadership class.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:10 pm:
===Cleaver move…
Even if nothing comes out of it, you get the line of
“Over X calls came in about corruption”===
“So, over ‘X’ number of calls came in about corruption, Mr. Rauner. What has been done with these calls…
* Is your campaign vetting these calls?
* Will confidentiality be compromised passing these calls on?
* Are you bypassing the IG, or state’s attorney or the US Attorney and just giving then to the Press?
*Which media outlets?
* Is the campaign qualified to even handle the legitimacy of these calls?
* What makes a tip valid, just calling it in?
* Your running mate spoke about seeing alleged corruption and did nothing about it, so what makes your campaign, including your running mate qualified to even pass on calls?
* Who is handling the sorting of these calls, a former prosecutor? Former FBI agent? Former Federal Investigator?
Lots of work for putting 10 digits on a flyer…
- Norseman - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:10 pm:
Rauner still pushing the narrative, while Quinn reacts. Not good for Quinn. His campaign better start going on the attack or he will not have to worry about limiting himself to two terms.
- NewWestSuburbanGOP'er - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:11 pm:
Why won’t Mr. Rauner lay out his plan for “shaking up Illinois” instead of setting up a hotline? Why isn’t the media in this state asking that question?
- Walter Mitty - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:12 pm:
And now… Since Quinn did it first…I guess when I said pretend it was the other way, what would you say? Hmm… This was genius. Out PQ’ing PQ… Give credit when due.
- Formerly Known As... - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:15 pm:
Smart move.
With the knowledge Quinn already did this himself, he cannot criticize it as a “political stunt”.
“Why, I’m just agreeing with you, Pat. Good government and all that.”
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:17 pm:
- Walter Mitty -,
===The new website, Whistleblower.Illinois.gov…===
Difference? State website, the clue is the “.gov”…created by Statute.
Rauner is acting more and more like Tom Hagen, this is another example.
“Do I turn this report in, or save this about ‘X’ to hold against them once I’m governor?”
Information is power. A state website versus a private political campaign “vetting” corruption calls? Huge difference.
With respect.
- Walter Mitty - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:20 pm:
OW… As I have learned from you… I take the Rauner optics on this at this point all day long… The reality is, as I want concrete responses from Rauner too, I am smart enough to realize that with all of this coming out, it ain’t newsworthy right now….
- Jiminy Cricket - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:28 pm:
He’s a real boy! Looks like Quinnochio (right) does double duty for the big guy. Nice to see him out of those tights for once.
- Formerly Known As... - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:37 pm:
“Outquinn” / “Outquinned” : verb : taking a page out of Pat Quinn’s “playbook” : to beat someone at their own game
ex.: “Did you see that hotline we set up?” “I did. You ‘Outquinned’ the master!”
- A guy... - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:38 pm:
It’s about piling up unfavorables. Pat doesn’t have to acquiesce at every turn, he just keeps doing it. There’s enough local, regional pub on the goofy library issue now that it will go national. Then Obama will be the one to embarrass them from the other side. Watch. It’s coming.
- too obvious - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 12:43 pm:
I would like to report a greedy vulture capitalist who has utilized pay-to-play tactics to reap enormous management fees from our pension system.
- A guy... - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 1:02 pm:
Too Obvious, that’s just goofy. Missed payments by the state are the biggest culprit to this. Poor planning comes in second. Not negotiating more reality along the way comes in third. Your goofy observation doesn’t even make a long list, let alone a short list. Vulture Capitalists certainly will get more wrath from private home owners- of former ones.
- carbaby - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 1:19 pm:
If I had information on corruption, what benefit to me would it really be to report it to the
“Rauner hotline”? I see the only results as a headline maybe and maybe some interesting talking points in the next political ad.
OW- I was thinking the exact same things. Who is determining if the tip is valid- how would you do so and are they going to tell the tipster how they are going to follow up with the tip?
I guess I’m looking for something results driven- oh wait I forgot who we’re talking about.
- Pete - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 1:20 pm:
Why do anything different than letting your narrative play out?
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In order to govern, you have to go through Madigan. If Rauner is serious about turning Illinois around, he has to drive this campaign through Quinn and into the legislature. Rauner needs to bring on some Republicans.
These investigations may pull more than just the Governor into the daylight.
- Leave a Light on George - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 1:30 pm:
If I were Quinn I would worry about this hotline more than I would any investigating done by the Inspector General. They are toothless.
- steve schnorf - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 1:34 pm:
Sew the wind,
- NewWestSuburbanGOP'er - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 1:35 pm:
If I had information on corruption, what benefit to me would it really be to report it to the
“Rauner hotline”? I see the only results as a headline maybe and maybe some interesting talking points in the next political ad.
OW- I was thinking the exact same things. Who is determining if the tip is valid- how would you do so and are they going to tell the tipster how they are going to follow up with the tip?
I guess I’m looking for something results driven- oh wait I forgot who we’re talking about.
As usual, nothing concrete, no specifics from Mr. Rauner.
- forwhatitsworth - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 1:51 pm:
It’s really sad to see another example of the sorry state of politics in Illinois. It’s no wonder why such a large percentage of people would like to leave Illinois.
- Ghost - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 1:56 pm:
You read about Govt corruption, and bam there is a pic of oneman trying to sell the State’s Dubuffet to a wealthy pigeon.
- VanillaMan - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 2:10 pm:
File another lawsuit Mr. Speaker.
There has to be something suable in all of this.
- Just Observing - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 2:15 pm:
1. Is this a silly, asinine stunt? Absolutely.
2. Is this as dangerous as others on this forum suggest? Only if one also views the BGA or the Tribune encouraging people to report corruption to them as dangerous.
3. Will any state employee report corruption to this hotline? Probably not. Someone that really wants to report corruption, likely knows of alternative, better ways to share the info.
- Chi - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 2:32 pm:
I called to report a money manager for the teachers pension fund that failed to disclose it employed one of the fund’s trustees that voted to award the money manager the contract.
I also called to report a parent clouting his student into Payton Prep by calling the head of CPS then donating hundreds of thousands to the school.
What a great tool this sounds like. Thanks Bruce!
- AFSCME Steward - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 2:35 pm:
Just Observing
“Will any state employee report corruption to this hotline? Probably not. Someone that really wants to report corruption, likely knows of alternative, better ways to share the info.”
By law the state employees would have to report corruption of the appropriate OEIG, not Bruce Rauner.
- AFSCME Steward - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 2:36 pm:
By law the state employees would have to report corruption to the appropriate OEIG, not Bruce Rauner.
Better
- Cassandra - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 2:41 pm:
It is perfectly legitimate for Rauner to make campaign issues out of the alleged patronage hiring at IDOT and the problems with the anti-violence initiative. Big campaign issues. In fact, maybe he could also talk about those missing monies from that DCFS contract scandal a couple of years ago. Have they found the missing
$9 million that was supposed to go to mistreated children yet? Has anybody been indicted?
The corruption hotline is overkill though. He’ll get a lot of folks who don’t like their supervisors, and so forth. Better to hold Quinn’s feet to the fire and also tell us what he, Rauner, will do to rein in corruption in his administration. No doubt there are all kinds of ideas out there in the government world he could find out about for us. There are, as we well know, many, many government units in the world which have far fewer problems with corruption than Illinois state government.
- Pete - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 3:20 pm:
Is there a state department that is not underfire?
- Skeptic - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 3:35 pm:
AFSCME: Funny what a silly little preposition will do to the meaning of a sentence, isn’t it?
- AFSCME Steward - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 4:30 pm:
Skeptic
“AFSCME: Funny what a silly little preposition will do to the meaning of a sentence, isn’t it?”
Or the bumbling of an incompentent typist…
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 1, 14 @ 10:09 pm:
===OW- I was thinking the exact same things. Who is determining if the tip is valid- how would you do so and are they going to tell the tipster how they are going to follow up with the tip?===
- carbaby -,
It’s nice fluff, nice optics, drives a very real time narrative too. Implementing? Way too many moving parts, way too many ethical questions.
===As usual, nothing concrete, no specifics from Mr. Rauner.===
- NewWestSuburbanGOP’er -, if Rauner wanted to be specific, he would have. Guess he didn’t want to? Haveta ask Rauner’s Crew, but the release itself lent the opportunity to be specific, if they chose that.