SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Cross turns thumbs down on Rauner service tax

Wednesday, Jul 23, 2014

* Eric Timmons

Republican candidate for treasurer Tom Cross says he opposes Bruce Rauner’s plan to tax 32 different services.

Mr. Rauner, the Republican candidate for governor, released a plan last week to freeze property taxes and gradually lower the state’s income tax rate. He also proposes new taxes on attorneys’ fees, warehousing and storage, advertising sales, golf club memberships, debt collection, security guards and residential sewer and refuse.

“Sometimes Republicans disagree,” Rep. Cross said of his opposition to the Rauner tax plan. “I don’t support any of the service taxes.”

The former Illinois House minority leader, Rep. Cross said he wanted it on record that he supports “everything else” in Mr. Rauner’s plan for the state.

Cross’ opponent Michael Frerichs was a co-sponsor of the service tax bill that Quinn supported. So, this move is no surprise.

* But it most certainly is the easy way out

“We have been a state that has just seen people spend money that we don’t have,” [Cross] said. “And we need to learn to live within our means. We’ve got $35 billion. That’s more money than we’ve ever had as a state. And there’s this continuous discussion and thirst for more money and more money and more money. I think the service tax is a mistake.”

He also said this

“I think it’s important for people to articulate what they’re going to do. Sometimes we say, as Republicans we say, ‘The Democrats have done such a bad job, you’re going to vote for us. We’re not Democrats.’

“Now, I think they have done a bad job, but I think we also have to say what we’re going to do.”

OK, well, Tom, let’s hear how you’d solve the problem without new revenues.

- Posted by Rich Miller        


28 Comments
  1. - Toure's Latte - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 9:35 am:

    Let’s hear how he’d run the Governor’s office from the Treasurer’s office? One office at a time Tommy.


  2. - foster brooks - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 9:43 am:

    It would devastate Rep. Cross if they taxed golf club memberships


  3. - BDuty6 - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 9:44 am:

    “I think it’s important for people to articulate what they’re going to do. Sometimes we say, as Republicans we say, ‘The Democrats have done such a bad job, you’re going to vote for us. We’re not Democrats.’

    That’s funny Tom, as that quote sums up your ENTIRE tenure as House GOP Leader. You never came out of the box with any new ideas. All you did was throw bombs at the Dems about how bad their ideas were.

    Except that time you teamed up with Rod Blagojevich. That was original…


  4. - Angry Republican - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 9:48 am:

    The Cross-Frerichs race is no different than Rauner-Quinn; it’s a pity they both can’t lose.


  5. - Chicago Cynic - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 9:59 am:

    Yawn. I love how Cross pretends like he was just born as a politician today and can just ignore the last 20 years. Spare us Tom.


  6. - Demoralized - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 10:06 am:

    ==let’s hear how you’d solve the problem without new revenues.==

    I’d love to see that question asked time and time again of those who oppose any new revenue or an extension of the current tax rates. I’ve yet to hear a valid answer to that question.


  7. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 10:07 am:

    Smart move by Cross to break with Rauner.

    Gotta wonder what is taking the rest of the GOP so long.

    BTW, if Rauner gets his way, does this mean Cook County can expand it sales tax to services, and Chicago too?

    Maybe this is the alternative to funding Chicago pensions that Rauner has in mind.

    An 8 percent tax on Hill & Knowlton and Leo Burnett.


  8. - Soccertease - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 10:08 am:

    Has anyone quantified how much revenue the service tax would generate? We already have a service occupation tax that servicemen pay the tax on the cost of tangible property included in the service. So can a new service tax really solve the state’s fiscal mess?


  9. - Steve Reick - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 10:08 am:

    Taxing consumption instead of production isn’t a bad idea, but Rauner’s service tax and any other tax proposal must be a substitute for, and not a supplement to current revenue measures.

    Rich noted in his weekend article that $16 billion of the state’s budget was for “non-mandated” expenditures, of which education accounted for half. There are bills on the table to change the way education is paid for, the pension system needs to be completely reformed,and we don’t know how many people will be thrown onto the Medicaid rolls if yesterday’s Halbig decision is ultimately affirmed. The taxpayers of this state have borne enough, it’s time for the Legislature to do its job.


  10. - VanillaMan - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 10:09 am:

    If Rauner wins, Cross loses an election cycle to climb up the political ladder in Illinois. He needs his supporters to do that, so Cross has decided to keep his political base happy and position himself if Rauner loses.

    It should be no surprise that with Cross as a leader over the past few terms in office, the GOP is about as successful electorally as the old Whigs. This move only confirms that with Cross around, the GOP will remain a minority in Illinois.

    The guys who got paid to win elections but kept losing them got schooled by the guys who paid for those elections in 2014. The GOP money guys got tired of wasting their money on losers every four years and put up one of their own to win this time.

    Cross is indeed showing that ILGOP has a split within itself - but it isn’t about state economics. It is about how guys like Cross and Dillard didn’t appreciate the lessons they were taught during the 2014 GOP primary.

    When Rauner said he wanted to shake up Springfield, the first group he shook up was the Old White Boy Network running ILGOP and now these losers are not very supportive of him, even if it looks like Rauner can win in November.

    Cross has made it clear that this election is all about him and his political future.


  11. - Barney - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 10:13 am:

    Rauner has a big plan and the service tax is a minor component ($600m out of a $35b budget) and by the time all the special interests carve out their exemptions, the take will probably be closer to $200m. Does anyone really think ITLA will allow a tax on attorneys? At least Cross didn’t pull a Frerichs and backtrack and say he now supports the service tax. I give him points for that.


  12. - A guy... - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 10:18 am:

    I guess he had to say something because he was probably asked. Rauner has helped Cross raise money. I doubt this was done without notice or tacit permission. In the grand scheme…not news.


  13. - Jerome Horwitz - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 10:34 am:

    When has the cost of doing any business, including government work, ever gone down? So, if costs are going to continue to increase every year, where will the revenue come from to support a budget with rising costs?


  14. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 10:43 am:

    ===“Now, I think they have done a bad job, but I think we also have to say what we’re going to do.”===

    “Walked right into that one.”

    To the Post,

    If Cross makes this about he versus the Shrinking Violet, he has a better shot at winning than being the Rauner “Mini Me”.

    Anything to keep the spotlight on the Dopiness of Frerichs and the idea that Cross is not Frerichs is a better day than comparing or contrasting Cross and Rauner.


  15. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 10:57 am:

    The old “Waste Fraud Abuse ” solution is rightfully discounted primarily because it is usually spouted as THE solution, the quick fix, the popular chant. But I do believe this state is paltry in its allocation of personnel to truly restore confidence and integrity to many programs. If a true effort was ignited on the major fronts (Medicaid, Child Support, Revenue, et.al.), and the increased expenditure reduced W.F A, by even 10%”
    I submit that would be one step toward improving our state. But it never happens consistently…an effort too effective will harm the interests of some who benefit from the shabby status quo.


  16. - CircularFiringSquad - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 11:06 am:

    Well Billboards bails on Flip Rauner’s new sales tax….guess that means Flip will keep his check book in the pocket. Who does Billboards turn to for campaign cash or does he think earner media on Capt Fax Blog will get the job done?


  17. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 11:34 am:

    ===Cross has made it clear that this election is all about him and his political future.===

    lol,

    I actually thought Cross wanted this election to be about the Callis-Davis race, myself.


  18. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 11:40 am:

    ===Cross is indeed showing that ILGOP has a split within itself - but it isn’t about state economics. It is about how guys like Cross and Dillard didn’t appreciate the lessons they were taught during the 2014 GOP primary.===

    It was actually about hijacking a party ripe to be hijacked. The vast financial white-wash by Rauner blowing the caps and sucking the money out of the Primary was a lesson that if you don’t keep My Party free from vultures who can overpower it, than you get a “Raunerite” winning the GOP Primary.


  19. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 11:45 am:

    Gee, that Treasurer’s job is tough. You’re international men of finance one day, propping up major corporations and sovereign nations, the next you’re setting state tax and spending priorities.


  20. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 12:00 pm:

    Barney -

    There are 35,000 attorneys in Illinois.

    About 1,100 are attorneys.

    What you really ought to be asking is whether Winston & Strawn, Sidley Austin, Mayer Brown…and all the other law firms are going to go along.


  21. - qcexaminer - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 12:05 pm:

    With all the constitutional scholars here at CapFAx, I’m surprised no one seized on the Cross claim in the Timmons link that if elected he would “not hesitate to sue the General Assembly if lawmakers fail to pass a [constitutionally required] balanced budget.”

    I assume this would have happened sooner except for the fact that taxpayers don’t have the political clout and lobbyists that public unions do. lol


  22. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 12:05 pm:

    qcexaminer, we’ve discussed that issue before. Not new at all.


  23. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 12:37 pm:

    =Gotta wonder what is taking the rest of the GOP so long.=

    It is happening, quietly.


  24. - Anon - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 12:41 pm:

    Assuming Rauner wins and his service tax comes up next year in the 99th General Assembly, Cross won’t have a vote in the matter. So his opposition won’t have much impact. It’s Durkin’s position on service taxes that will matter.


  25. - steve schnorf - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 4:11 pm:

    C’mon, Tom. You used to be better than that. Remember stem-cell, and how we supported you even though it was party heresy? You can be better than that again. Man up.It’s there in you, do it.


  26. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 8:07 pm:

    Schnorf:

    Stem cell was party heresy because your party caters to some real goofballs.

    Case in point: marriage equality.

    Not one single GOP vote for service tax when Democrats proposed it, but now that Rauner is sponsoring it all the Republicans are supposed to flip?

    Isn’t that what you all call a Frerichs?

    LOL.

    Just kidding you, Schnorf.

    Don’t get too upset. Cross is not going to be voting for a tax increase, because if Quinn wins then Cross and every Republican will vote No in veto, and if Rauner wins there won’t be a vote in veto.


  27. - steve schnorf - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 8:34 pm:

    Dog, my point is there are issues in the past (and today,-see gay issues) when Tom has stood against the tide and done what was right, and people have stood with him. And he can do it again: he’s no longer responsible for trying to keep a caucus together, or even a party. The adults (Ds, Rs, and Is) in the state know that govt can’t function without revenue and one of our problems is that our sales tax system has gotten totally out of touch with our economy.


  28. - Just The Way It Is One - Wednesday, Jul 23, 14 @ 8:51 pm:

    …not a good sign when a Major Pol from one’s own PARTY shoots down what’s supposed to be a major PLANK in one’s Campaign–and for many of the sound reasons already brought out as to why it WON’T work, and would be not only regressive for the Average Citizen (sure, let’s tax the GARBAGEMan in front of my House BIG-time, Bruce, or i guess they’re just won’t be any PICK-up this Week, right!) but altogether INadequate in addressing Illinois’ fiscal realities…!


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Cullerton unsure of pay hike rollback
* Madigan: "We are involved in an historic struggle"
* More lip service
* Madigan's U-Turn
* Question of the day
* *** LIVE *** Overtime session coverage
* Illinois Credit Unions – Stepping Up from all Corners of the State
* Today's map
* Madigan: "You’d better be strong or you’re going to be gone"
* *** UPDATED x1 - Madigan: "Routine" filing *** AG Madigan may appeal pension ruling to US Supreme Court
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Good morning!
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * LG’s Mobile Division ekes out a $200,000 profit in Q2 2015
        * New Motorola-branded smart watch passes through the FCC
        * Vote now for the greatest Lumia Instagramer of the Month
        * Motorola is considering setting up a production unit in India
        * LG may announce the G Flex 3 in March 2016
        * LG Posts Slim $206M Profit In Q2 2015 As Smartphone Shipments Slip To 14.1M
        * How to blog on your Lumia

        * Behind Quintana, White Sox eye seventh straight win
        * White Sox back Shark for sixth straight win
        * Betts flies over fence on catch-turned-homer
        * Red-hot White Sox aren't ready to watch standings
        * Samardzija rises above Trade Deadline buzz
        * White Sox 9, Red Sox 4: Another big first inning
        * Betts flies over fence on catch-turned-homer

        ...............


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        July 2015
        June 2015
        May 2015
        April 2015
        March 2015
        February 2015
        January 2015
        December 2014
        November 2014
        October 2014
        September 2014
        August 2014
        July 2014
        June 2014
        May 2014
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Baby left in car for 2 hours in Joliet in critical condition
        * Jail releases more footage of Sandra Bland before her death
        * GOP fundraiser calls for Kirk to drop 2016 bid, backtracks
        * GOP fundraiser says Sen. Kirk should abandon re-election bid
        * Rauner praises House vote to block lawmaker pay raise
        * Autopsy concludes woman found dead in Chicago home strangled
        * Rauner signs bill broadening eligibility for food stamps
        * Indiana appeals court rejects Hammond teen's argument
        * Shooting victim's father wins records from Carbondale police
        * Legislation filed would block Illinois lawmaker pay raise

        * Illinois House votes to reject pay raise; Senate vote expected next week
        * Statewide tourism numbers up, although most Springfield historic sites see decline in visitors
        * Rauner signs bill broadening eligibility for food stamps
        * Statewide tourism numbers up, although most Springfield historic sites seeing decline in visitors
        * Illinois House approves legislation to block lawmaker pay raise
        * Madigan files legislation to block lawmaker pay raise
        * More Illinois residents feel pain as budget impasse drags on
        * New UIS Public Safety Building is another budget casualty
        * ACLU pushes for change in 'right of conscience' law
        * Study finds Illinois in middle of pack when it comes to key ethics laws

        * Chicago City Council coming to grips with big tax hike
        * What's up at RedEye?
        * Wheaton College ends student health insurance, citing Obamacare mandate
        * Top GOP funder Gidwitz calls on Sen. Kirk to step down
        * Mead Johnson paying $12 million to settle U.S. bribery charges


          * Police fatally shoot dog that attacked woman, officer
          * 1 dead, 5 wounded in city shootings
          * Outbound I-290 reopened after shooting report
          * More Sandra Bland footage released; protest held in downtown Chicago
          * Baby boy in critical condition after being left in hot car in Joliet
          * Wheaton College ends coverage amid fight against birth control mandate
          * Students dig for architectural treasures in Gold Coast
          * Madigan changes mind, tries to blunt Rauner criticism of lawmaker raises
          * Police: Driver in Gary church bus crash that killed boy had suspended license
          * Boy Scouts change to allow gay leaders a step forward, area leaders say


          * Bill McGee: Massacres of black Americans nothing new
          * Ron Ellis: Advice for crafting Illinois' budget
          * Michael Gerson: Coronating a wounding queen?
          * Illinois House votes to reject pay raise; Senate vote expected next week
          * Statewide tourism numbers up, although most Springfield historic sites see decline in visitors
          * Rauner signs bill broadening eligibility for food stamps
          * Our Opinion: Vietnam vets never forgot Mel-O-Cream's kindness
          * Robert Lynch: Chatham gun owner ready for 'terrorist punks'
          * Otto Fafoglia: Illinois attorney general little help with contractor complaint
          * Kathleen Parker: Alzheimer's research could help to solve Medicare's money woes


          * (Job) titles don't mean much to women's assistant
          * New fire station may get different site
          * MJ: Who's the point man?
          * Tate: Latest loss tough blow for Illini
          * Challenger League All-Stars 2015
          * Sports Talk 07-28-15
          * Man charged with lying to police
          * DNA hit brings arrest for robbery
          * Man arrested near shooting charged with drug offenses
          * Updated: Shelden makes bid official


          * Husband and wife team to open new cupcake store at Arboretum of South Barrington
          * 30 years later: Arlington Park fire burned into suburban memories
          * Kang's homer sends Pirates to 8-7 win over Twins
          * Yankees use 11-run inning in 21-5 comeback win at Texas
          * New York prison worker got 'caught up' in escape plot

          * House lawmakers overcome hurdle on key tra...
          * Rodney Davis talks funding with Bloomingto...
          * The agency that fought Illiana gets a new ...
          * Rep. Dold takes educational cruise down Ch...
          * Lawmakers decry high turnover rate of VA h...
          * CBD Oil, and politics
          * Simon considering state Senate bid
          * Killer Congressman Tom MacArthur trying to...
          * Shutdown? State may not notice
          * Rep. Bob Dold

          * Why labor unions care about for-profit col......
          * Senator Durbin: We Must Close Loopholes Al......

          * Gidwitz Takes Back Comments about Kirk Run......
          * Dawn Patrol: Top GOP donor retracts commen......
          * GOP fundraiser calls for Kirk to drop 2016......

          * “The Driver’s Side” – News From The Motorist’s Perspective
          * Legislator Pushes Tickets For Electric Car Reserved Parking Spaces
          * Anti-Red Light Camera Activists Protest In Tinley Park
          * No pay raise for Illinois legislators? Fat chance that will wind up happening
          * The [Tuesday] Papers
          * The [Friday] Papers
          * Union: Rauner Halts Payments To Illinois Child Care Providers
          * Union: Rauner Halts Payments To Illinois Child Care Providers (UPDATED)
          * The Week In Chicago Rock
          * '58 Corvette


          * Governor Takes Bill Action
          * Governor Rauner Signs Veteran Preference Bill
          * Governor's Office Statement on Passage of HB 576
          * Time Running Out to Stop Legislator Pay Raise
          * Governor Announces Appointments




              Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller