SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Quinn vetoes another speed limit bill

Wednesday, Aug 27, 2014

* Tribune

Gov. Pat Quinn [yesterday] vetoed a measure that would have raised the maximum speed limit on Illinois’ tollways to 70 mph from the current 65 mph, citing safety concerns.

“Recent evidence shows that drivers already travel at excessive speeds on Illinois toll highways,” Quinn said in his veto message to lawmakers.

The governor said a tollway study of drivers on Interstate 94 in Lake County last year found 71 percent of them exceeded the posted limit by 15 mph or more. Another tollway study found between 91 percent and 98 percent of drivers on seven different tollway segments exceeded the speed limit from 11 mph to 15 mph during off-peak hours, he added.

Quinn signed a law last year that raised the Interstate speed limit to 70 mph. That bill applied mostly to rural areas. And the tollway limit bill’s sponsor (like the Interstate bill and the trucker speed limit bill that Quinn also vetoed this summer) is GOP US Senate candidate Jim Oberweis. So, one win is enough, I guess. And no wins can be allowed in an election year.

But I’m sure the veto was all about safety.

/snark

- Posted by Rich Miller        


31 Comments
  1. - Just Observing - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 10:47 am:

    People may be going 15+ mph over the limit because they feel the speed limit is too low. Raising the speed limit by 5 mph doesn’t mean drivers will necessarily increase their typical speed by 5 mph.


  2. - Just Observing - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 10:50 am:

    On a somewhat unrelated note, although it deals with traffic laws, does anyone specifically know if under Illinois law a driver can text/talk not-hands free while in park or in neutral at a stoplight. The law says one can if traffic is obstructed, but I don’t know what the definition of obstructed is. Sorry to be somewhat off-topic on this post, but I’ve unsuccessfully been able to find a source on this.


  3. - AlabamaShake - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 10:51 am:

    Just Observing… not so sure. For me, at least, I set my cruise control at 7-10 over the speed limit when I’m on the interstate. When the speed limit went up last year, I started going a bit faster on 39 and 55.


  4. - A guy... - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 10:52 am:

    At least he’s inconsistent.


  5. - Chicago Cynic - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 10:53 am:

    When I drive 72 on 94 towards Wisconsin, I’m passed like I’m standing still. This was a stupid veto that will do nothing to slow people down.


  6. - downstate hack - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 10:56 am:

    This is weird, just like so many of Quinn’s moves


  7. - Mcleaniac - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 10:57 am:

    It seems like Quinn is TRYING to lose this election !


  8. - Just Observing - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 10:57 am:

    @AlabamaShake — You may very well be right. I’m just throwing it out there.


  9. - mcb - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 10:59 am:

    Might be nice to live in a world where legislation advanced on it’s merit, not what it would mean on an election.


  10. - Steve Doner - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:06 am:

    If safety is the goal, the speed limit should be increased, especially on the egregiously underposted 55 zones which blanket most of the tollways. If safety is the goal limits should be based on the 85th percentile speed under good conditions (70 in most of the metro area). This is basic traffic engineering and the science has not changed for decades. The governor is protecting those in the traffic ticket revenue stream at the expense of safety. Those benefitting from traffic tickets include government agencies, the police, the courts, traffic attorneys, the Northwestern University Traffic School, insurance companies and others.


  11. - Steve Doner - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:10 am:

    The bill passed by a veto-proof majority - more than 90% in both houses. My bigger concern is that the Tollway Authority may still try to hold out for lower limits. They hid behind their misinterpretation of the defined term “urban district”. The bill will pass and the wording will be made crystal clear but they make look for other ways to avoid an increase even though keeping a 55 limit is very dangerous, especially to the few well-meaning folks who actually go 55-60. Sadly I have instructed my own teenage drivers to go 70 for their own safety. What kind of a message is this to give to our young people.


  12. - Anonymoiis - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:10 am:

    ==People may be going 15+ mph over the limit because they feel the speed limit is too low. Raising the speed limit by 5 mph doesn’t mean drivers will necessarily increase their typical speed by 5 mph.==

    I don’t see people driving 85+ on rural interstates now any more than I used to


  13. - Steve Doner - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:14 am:

    A widely held misconception is that speed limits actually influence flow speeds. The numbers on the signs have very little effect on the behavior of most drivers. This has been demonstrated time and again. Even on our own I-355 the average speeds only changed by about 1 mph when the limit was raised from 55 to 65 on the southern leg a few years ago.


  14. - Steve Doner - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:17 am:

    If you care about this issue, send an email to your representatives and to the Illinois Tollway. IDOT will likely bump the limits up on some expressways once the Tollway moves….logically the outer beltways need to go up first which is why we started there.

    Steve Doner, Wheaton
    Former Illinois Chapter Coordinator
    National Motorists Association


  15. - Streator Curmudgeon - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:23 am:

    I’m not sure if it follows, but theoretically, higher speed limits would mean fewer speeding tickets, and Illinois certainly needs the revenue from speeding tickets.

    But, just as Internet haters gotta hate, so Illinois speeders gotta speed.


  16. - Federalist - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:24 am:

    Harder to give more revenue generating tickets if the speed limit is raised.

    By the way, for those of us who live out here in nowheresville it is about time to raise the rural speed back to 65mph like it was for decades before the phony oil embargo. Many of us really have long distances to drive. If one has to drive 55 on a rural highway to be safe they are ‘unsafe at any speed.’ But again the local revenue generators will oppose this and the entire police establishment will scream ’safety.’


  17. - VanillaMan - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:29 am:

    Speed should be high enough so that when a crash occurs, there is no crash sight, just a vaporized dark spot.


  18. - Rob Roy - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:29 am:

    Streator C. It is supposed to be about the public safety and not about revenue generation.


  19. - Brass - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:34 am:

    This seems more about ticket revenue than public safety. This is one the GA should override.


  20. - Arthur Andersen - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:39 am:

    Just, I asked the friendly neighborhood State Trooper your question about non- hands free awhile back after the law had changed. IIRC, he said the car had to be in park at the light. His advice, though, was don’t do it. Proving you had the car in park or neutral if you drive stick could be hard if the cop is uh, having a bad day.
    If an old coot like AA can use Bluetooth, everyone can.


  21. - Just Observing - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:45 am:

    ^^ Thanks Arthur!


  22. - Tim - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 11:53 am:

    The text of the state law says that neutral is also fine. I put my car in neutral if I’m looking at my phone at a red light. If there’s a cop around, I don’t do it at all.

    http://ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/fulltext.asp?Name=098-0506


  23. - Kenny - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 12:04 pm:

    >citing safety concerns.

    “Recent evidence shows that drivers already travel at excessive speeds on Illinois toll highways”

    Then how about signing a bill to enforce the existing laws if this is such a “safety issue”?


  24. - been there - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 12:12 pm:

    Troopers are so rare on 94 between Chicago and Wisconsin that it’s not likely they’re helping the revenue stream much. After the override, put more troopers out there, ticketing drivers who exceed the limit. The revenue will skyrocket.


  25. - Walter Sobchak - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 1:06 pm:

    It would be interesting to see what the natural speed limit is on I-55 between say, south of Joliet to Springfield. I would guess 80MPH. Speed limits are created by politicians for selectively enforced revenue opportunities, not for ’safety’. In addition, they impose an artificial view that all cars and drivers are the same and should be held to an equally artificial standard.


  26. - Demoralized - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 1:26 pm:

    There are states with speed limits higher than 70. I think the highest is 85 (I believe it’s on a toll road in Texas). Not saying that because somebody else does it we should, but you could look at accident rates in those areas since the increases took effect to see if there was any measurable impact.


  27. - Great Caesar's Ghost! - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 2:37 pm:

    Regardless of how odd this veto is and the purpose for which it was issued, I find the Senate sponsor’s legislative record to be just as unusual. In his first two years in office Sen, Oberweis introduced seven bills. Three dealt with speed limits, one with Sunday car sales, two were other “vehicle” bills (no pun intended), and the remainder with other issues. The state is going to hell in a hand basket and he who wants to become a US Senator can’t think of any better issues to attack than speed limits. Jeez.


  28. - Anon - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 2:47 pm:

    Quinn’s arguments today are inconsistent with signing the 70-mph bill for interstates. He was wrong then. Better late than never.

    In 2012, the Governors Highway Safety Association issued a report with the following facts:

    * The share of traffic fatalities linked to speeding increased 7% since 2000.
    * In 2010, 10,530 Americans died in speed-related crashes.
    * The biggest obstacle to speed enforcement is public indifference to speeding.
    * More enforcement is necessary to overcome the growing proportion of speeding-related deaths, including greater use of speed cameras.

    Source: “Traffic report: Speed kills,” Tribune, March 12, 2012


  29. - http://answers.willslaservision.com - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 5:02 pm:

    0x - C004C020 error code is used to represent that the activation server has reached the multiple activation key limit.
    Plus we were asked to leave it for 12 to 16 hours for each bottle to get magnetized — and that was with huge magnets of
    a very high power. If you are having problems copying the contents of the DVD to a local
    disk, either the disk is not readable or the lens of DVD drive needs cleaning.


  30. - Six Degrees of Separation - Wednesday, Aug 27, 14 @ 6:01 pm:

    Anon 2:47-

    Those facts don’t mean much. Did the raw numbers of speed related deaths increase or did they *decrease* from 2000? There are other factors that may have caused other types of crash deaths to *decrease* at a faster rate than speed related crashes, like safer side crash reinforcement in the vehicle fleet, sqafer roadside designs for run off the road crashes, a multitude of factors. Illinois is headed towards a record low crash deaths in 2014, increased interstate speed limits notwithstanding.


  31. - goldiraaccount.wikidot.com - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 3:21 am:

    I have read so mqny articles or reviewss regarding
    the blogger lovers however thi piece of writing iis actually a good paragraph, keep it up.


TrackBack URI

Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Reader comments closed for the weekend
* No pension bump for Stermer, MJM still not persuaded on special session
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - More comptroller stuff
* 1:30 comptroller announcement expected - Stermer appointed, says he will resign January 12th
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Comptroller stuff
* Golden Horseshoe Awards
* Bears open thread
* More adventures in misgovernance
* Question of the day - Golden Horseshoe Awards
* Petulance all around
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * How to avoid taking lousy iPhone holiday photos
        * VIDEO: Android 5.0.1 on Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Note Edge, Galaxy S5
        * Walt Disney World to Begin Accepting Apple Pay Starting December 24
        * How to use benchmarks to cut through marketing hype
        * Evernote brings Context for premium and business users
        * Spot the Lumia: special appearances in film and music
        * Android Community Weekly Digest: Dec. 21, 2014

        * F1 Racers Helped Design This Bike’s Flawlessly Smooth Ride
        * How to Make Quitting Unappealing and Build New Habits
        * Lenovo Yoga 3 11 Specifications Leak Out Before Official Unveiling
        * 13 content delivery networks to speed up your website
        * Belarus blocks news and commerce websites over currency fears
        * How One Guy Got Kickstarters to Give Their Profits to Other Campaigns
        * Samsung SE790C Curved Monitor Unveiled

        * Digging into David Robertson's reverse splits
        * The year in injuries: White Sox have been better, could've been worse
        * Williams: Make protesting voices heard through vote
        * Williams: Make protesting voices heard through vote
        * White Sox also had a December to remember 100 years ago
        * Terrerobytes: Future of Cuban baseball complicated on both sides
        * White Sox sign George Kottaras to a minor league deal

        ...............


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        December 2014
        November 2014
        October 2014
        September 2014
        August 2014
        July 2014
        June 2014
        May 2014
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Quinn Names Stermer As Comptroller..
        * Quinn set to go to Maryland to visit soldiers..


        * 4 people including 2 children killed at Rockford home
        * 4 found dead, including 2 children, in Rockford
        * Quinn set to go to Maryland to visit soldiers
        * Illinois to get $1.6M for Heart of Dallas Bowl
        * Report: Illinois treasurer OK'd raises for dozens
        * 1 dead, many injured in shooting at suburban party
        * Milestone in osprey program as birds migrate
        * Raising juror pay, reducing juries gets mixed reviews
        * Police looking for suspect in Effingham shooting
        * Firefighters battle grain bin fire for 9 hours

        * Raising juror pay gets mixed reviews
        * Gov. Quinn set to go to Maryland to visit soldiers
        * State treasurer employees get raises, stipends as Rutherford’s term comes to end
        * Springfield-based U.S. attorney’s investigations nab 13; race questions raised
        * 2nd Illinois prison with possible chickenpox
        * Quinn signs bill increasing juror pay
        * Quinn names longtime aide Jerry Stermer comptroller until Jan. 12
        * Quinn signs law to nix deadline for asbestos lawsuits
        * Quinn to name comptroller replacement this afternoon
        * Madigan says T-Mobile settlement shields consumers

        * 10 Things to Do
        * Can Garcia's run for mayor fire up independents?
        * Chicago's newest workout (and personal statement) options
        * A photo shop for photographers
        * The Life of Patrick Ryan: Act II, Scene 2


        * Lakeview pot dispensary on hold; Tunney opposes Halsted location
        * Despite community pleas, CPS puts Dyett HS out for proposals
        * Quinn to appoint new Illinois Comptroller today
        * Gov. Quinn appoints longtime aide as Illinois comptroller
        * Watch: President Obama's year-end press conference
        * Rewriting the Sony cyberattack script
        * time for new course in Cuba
        * Are Rahm's numbers creeping up? New internals show him near 50
        * Obama guidance, press schedule, Dec. 19, 2014. Press conference
        * A whole lot of nothing from the City Council


        * Man barricades himself inside North Side home
        * 1 dead, 9 wounded in separate West, South side shootings
        * 1 dead, 3 wounded in wrong-way Lake Shore Drive crash
        * 1 killed after shooting leads to police pursuit
        * Chicago-based Cards Against Humanity doles out pieces of Maine island
        * South Loop crash kills 2, hospitalizes 1
        * Man killed at house party shooting was headed to Army
        * Bronzeville man held on $300K in Loop convenience store robbery
        * Borman Expressway closed in both directions
        * Operation Santa delivers cheer to fallen or injured officers' families


        * Springfield Schools Are Prepped for PARCC
        * Will Stermer's Promotion Bring A Pension Bump Too?
        * Listen to State Week - December 19, 2014
        * Quinn Picks Budget Chief To Be Temporary Comptroller
        * 'Uber-gentrification' a force in Chicago's West Loop
        * Durbin leaving Congressional roommates behind
        * Worries rise in Russia as ruble falls
        * Improviser finds purpose in Chicago police mental health crisis trainings
        * Chicago 'petcoke' handler says it'll enclose piles
        * Waukegan woman seeks to trademark 'I can't breathe'


        * Quote of the day: Monday, Dec. 22, 2014
        * Raising juror pay gets mixed reviews
        * Gov. Quinn set to go to Maryland to visit soldiers
        * Quote of the day: Sunday, Dec. 21, 2014
        * Bernard Schoenburg: Rauner talks of dogs, housing and the work ahead as governor
        * State treasurer employees get raises, stipends as Rutherford’s term comes to end
        * Cathy Becker: Because it’s the right thing to do
        * T. Ray McJunkins: Justice, righteousness descend to fulfill dream
        * Springfield-based U.S. attorney’s investigations nab 13; race questions raised
        * 2nd Illinois prison with possible chickenpox


        * Top issues of 2014: U of i smoking ban
        * Automotive student receives award
        * Top of the Morning, Dec. 22, 2014: From the archives
        * Area Calendar 12/22/14
        * Supreme Court sends Muscatine incest case back to lower court
        * McAllister recieves FFA award
        * 4 ex-turkey workers living in Atalissa bunkhouse now in protective care
        * A little rain will dampen the Q-C
        * Pooch does wonders for people, especially patients
        * State’s financial future is unclear


        * Stafford, Suh lead Lions over Bears 20-14
        * Dawn Patrol: Wheaton Warrenville South athletes give back; Bears lose 20-14
        * Report: Mississippi recruit QB Chad Kelly arrested
        * (No heading)
        * Indiana creates mobile app for Indiana travelers

        * Are Academics Limited When It Comes To Fre...
        * Controversy and change mark 2014 in Highla...
        * Republican David Brat Wins Virginia’s 7th ...
        * Bob Dold
        * Rep. Bob Dold
        * Chairman Recommends House Financial Servic...
        * Dold a'going to the freshman dance, again
        * Mike Bloomberg takes his money local
        * Midterm elections see Big Red wins in Ill....
        * Over 95 percent of ANCA-endorsed candidate...

        * Durbin on North Korea Hack...
        * Returning Overseas Profits Must Be in Tax ......

        * Sen. Wicker leads bipartisan group urging ......
        * Ex-General On Benghazi: 'We Should Have Tr......

        * Illinois U.S. Sen. Mark Kirk Promises to Screen 'The Interview' at Fundraisers
        * Kirk Calls For Congressional Hearings Into North Korea Hack
        * Quinn calls for special session to push special 2016 comptroller election
        * Americas PAC recaps the 2014 election
        * Thomas More Society seeks Lerner emails affecting policy towards pro-life groups
        * Will school officials be like judges?
        * My condolences to the NYPD
        * Is It Good To Be Paul Vallas Now?
        * Rahm says SEIU 73’s Boardman can bargain away employee pensions. I don’t think so.
        * Elected retired delegates are on a watch list at the IEA RA.


        * Governor Quinn Appoints Jerry Stermer as Illinois Comptroller
        * Governor Quinn Calls Legislative Special Session - Governor Urges Legislature to Set Up 2016 Special Election for Comptroller
        * Governor Quinn Announces Illinois’ Unemployment Rate Hits New Low - Illinois’ Economic Comeback Continues; Unemployment Rate Falls to Lowest Level in More than Six Years
        * Illinois Ranks #1 in Volunteer Rate Among the Country’s 8 Largest States - 2.57 Million Illinoisans Give $7.2 Billion in Service
        * Law Enforcement, IDOT Make Final Push to Save Lives in 2014, Roadside Safety Checks Planned Over Holidays - New Episode of “The Driving Dead” Premieres Friday as Holiday Travelers are Reminded to Drive Sober and Buckle Up




            Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller