SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Question of the day

Thursday, Aug 28, 2014

* The Chicago Tribune editorial board took a look at the reporting on the NRI and IDOT messes and concluded

The governor’s spokespeople invariably use the words “zero tolerance” to defend his response to the unfolding disasters.

Besides replacing Schneider at IDOT, Quinn has ordered the agency to abolish the “staff assistant” position. Last week, IDOT fired 58 people whose jobs were improperly classified and created a merit board to oversee hiring.

Quinn also signed legislation meant to toughen the rules governing state grants and prevent some of the problems that occurred with his own bungled anti-violence program. And he ordered all state agencies to cooperate with investigators.

Quinn took those actions as the headlines and audits and subpoenas exploded around him. That’s not zero tolerance. It’s CYA.

* The Question: “Zero tolerance” or “CYA”? Take the poll and then explain your answer in comments, please.


- Posted by Rich Miller        

  1. - so... - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:07 pm:

    Totally CYA. With IDOT in particular. Quinn has been a patronage guy from day one. That’s how he got his start in Illinois politics. He’s only taking these actions now because he’s in a tough race against an opponent who’s making it an issue.

    CYA is a way of life with Quinn. IDOT and NRI are just the two most recent examples. Remember how he handled the MGT-Push early release scandal in 2010?

  2. - OneMan - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:08 pm:

    Zero tolerance would have resulted in at the least these people being let go before the Trib called with questions…

  3. - Anonymous - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:12 pm:

    Zero tolerance. Governors have to rely on staff, they aren’t made aware of every problem immediately, and it’s best not to make rash decisions. When it became clear there was mismanagement, the Governor took action.

  4. - Anonymous - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:12 pm:

    There’s not one out of 58 that’s qualified to work?? Why not give those 58 workers (and the public) a certain deadline to submit their applications/resumes for specific positions (clearly these positions need to be defined), and put them through the hiring process - that seems more reasonable than laying off more people.

  5. - Jon - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:23 pm:

    Unfortunately it’s CYA, I doubt there is a single incident of the Governor’s Office putting a stop to a unethical/illegal practices prior to a 3rd party identifying the issue first.

  6. - Sir Reel - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:25 pm:


    While Schneider is history, who’s gone because of their role in NRI?

    Zero tolerance means heads should roll.

  7. - phocion - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:26 pm:

    CYI. If Quinn made it known from Day One that he would have zero tolerance for skirting around patronage rules, staff wouldn’t have done what they did. Everything he’s doing now is for show.

  8. - Chris - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:31 pm:

    Second phocion’s full comment.

  9. - admin - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:32 pm:

    Rich, still not seeing Tribune cover the Rauner vote suppression story or Quinn’s call for an investigation - is the Tribune MIA?

  10. - Wensicia - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:32 pm:

    CYA, but it ain’t working.

  11. - Stones - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:36 pm:

    CYA but it’s still all on PQ

  12. - too obvious - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:39 pm:

    meh. At least Quinn never sent armed men out to intimidate persons who were simply participating in the democratic process.

    But of course the Trib endorsed Rauner and will do so again.

  13. - wordslinger - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:41 pm:

    It’s CYA which is SOP in politics.

  14. - Anon. - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:45 pm:

    Phocion nailed it.

  15. - Mason born - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:47 pm:

    CYA correct me if I’m wrong but quinn claimed to have stopped the patronage problem before with zero tolerance at least until he was caught. Now though it is different right pat?

    I guess it is who’s fractured fairy tale you want. Magic Mathvs. Mythical Sneaky All Powerful Low Level Staffer. At least Bruce doesn’t have feds searching for the math genie.

  16. - Cassiopeia - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:53 pm:

    Looks like Quinn’s staff is too demoralized by events to comment.

    They are beginning to realize that more of them could be next to go under the wheels of the bus.

  17. - Toure's Latte - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:54 pm:

    Is there anyone in the Illinois Democratic Party with any experience at damage control?

  18. - VanillaMan - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 12:58 pm:

    Governor Quinn trying to pass himself off as a reformer is like watching M*A*S*H’s Corporal Klinger trying to pass himself off as Judy Garland.

    CYA - and five years too late!

  19. - Tequila Mockingbird - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 1:40 pm:

    Patronage isn’t patronage until you get caught.

  20. - bored to zzzzz - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 1:42 pm:

    Zero tolerance would require the numbers going down rather than up since his crew took over - oh wait they were largely the same crew. CYA and not remotely credible CYA.

  21. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 1:43 pm:

    I think I made the question too lopsided. But at least we now know that 13 percent are with PQ no matter what.


  22. - Roadbuilder - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 1:44 pm:

    As of this day, all of the ones listed at the IDOT Div. of Aero are still employed there…

  23. - Mokenavince - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 1:45 pm:

    CYA you bet! Zero tolerance is for the birds.

  24. - WhoKnew - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 1:48 pm:

    He Knew!

  25. - Mason born - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 1:56 pm:

    Be interesting if the 13% holds or if it the 31 members of PQ friends and family plan who didn’t get the axe.

  26. - js - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 1:57 pm:

    Pat has zero tolerance for taking responsibility.

  27. - Judgment Day - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 2:01 pm:

    It’s ‘zero tolerance’ after he gets caught. So, I’m voting ‘zero tolerance’.

  28. - walker - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 2:36 pm:

    A public announcement of “zero tolerance”, which Quinn did make early on, is not the same as management processes to make sure everyone got the message — and that’s being kind. CYA.

  29. - archimedes - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 2:46 pm:

    CYA. If it was Zero Tolerance, you fire those responsible (if they were insubordinate) and make sure all are aware of your policies and procedures that are in place to prevent this.

    Instead, he fires the ones that were hired. Sounds more like - oops, we got caught, the jig is up.

  30. - zatoichi - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 2:59 pm:

    Zero tolerance implies the hire/fire policy was actively in place and this post-article activity is just a wrap-up for the existing process. CYA.

  31. - A guy... - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 3:20 pm:

    ===Rich Miller - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 1:43 pm:

    I think I made the question too lopsided. But at least we now know that 13 percent are with PQ no matter

    You did worse than pitch a lopsided question Kemo Sabe.
    You asked for an explanation of the very obvious.

    Next question: How in the heck could 13% see it any other way or try to defend it? Now those would be interesting comments! lol

  32. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 3:35 pm:

    It’s CYA, all day…

    It’s also the worst kind of CYA, that is a CYA that very few could actually believe is Zero Tolerance.

  33. - retiree - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 4:05 pm:

    Rich, you once described Quinn as a “ferocious patronage guy” Why is anybody surprised with any of this? Don’t stop with DOT. He stuffed folks into every agency that I have any knowledge about.

  34. - dupage dan - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 4:08 pm:

    Quinn has been honing his patronage craft for decades and this is the best he can do. I can’t vote for Rauner and will not vote for Quinn. First time I will likely leave a major contest blank in a long long time. Vote for the guy who is breaking the law or the guy who is breaking the law. What a choice.

  35. - better days - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 6:04 pm:

    zero tolerance would have prevented the illegal old boys hiring at IDOT ..CYA is after the fact

    Governor Rauner here we come !!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. - Soccertease - Thursday, Aug 28, 14 @ 9:41 pm:

    It’s CYA at best. It’s really kneejerk panic.

  37. - Mason born - Friday, Aug 29, 14 @ 9:19 am:

    62 for zero tolerance Rauners crew should have said scores more instead of dozens.

Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.

* AG Madigan wants federal civil rights probe of CPD
* Another one?
* *** LIVE COVERAGE *** Leaders' meeting
* Chicago GOP cries foul over Democratic interference
* *** UPDATED x1 *** Rauner rejects latest refugee offer
* "At some point, however, deadlock will take its toll"
* Question of the day - Golden Horseshoe Awards
* *** UPDATED x3 - Sneed: Gone *** Gone?
* *** UPDATED x1 *** Springfield's Rauner primaries
* Today's meeting primer
* Comptroller will make full December pension payment
* Caption contest!
* *** UPDATED x2 - Cable buy deets - Duckworth says Kirk acts "how enemies like ISIS want us to act" *** Mark Kirk uses Syrian refugee issue in new attack on Duckworth
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Yesterday's blog posts

Visit our advertisers...







Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

* Explore museums virtually through Google’s Arts and Culture app
* Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 hits high single-core score on benchmark
* iPhone 7 prototypes, Amazon Apple TV battle & more – Pocketnow Daily
* The Surface Phone is dead, long live the Surface Phone
* Samsung working on scrollable devices according to patents
* Samsung releases 3D internet browser for Gear VR
* [TA Deals] Save 20% on all eLearning packages!

* Alex Avila wants to play, and against the Tigers
* Avila eager to wage 'friendly' AL Central rivalry
* Non-tender deadline looks familiar for White Sox
* Detroit Tigers make AL Central's first big splash with Jordan Zimme...
* South Side Sox' SB Nation MLB Awards voting results
* Starting Pitcher Rankings: Chris Sale and Jose Quintana maintain st...
* Scouting profile: Adam Engel


Main Menu
Pundit rankings
Subscriber Content
Blagojevich Trial
Updated Posts

December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005


RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0


* Illinois budget talks restart with no hint of c.....
* Leaders meet, no progress on budget - The Southern..
* Rauner, Democrats hold 1st meeting in months on.....
* Rauner, Democrats hold first meeting in months .....
* On property taxes and schools, elected leaders .....

* Rauner, Democrats hold 1st meeting in months on state budget
* The Latest: GOP leader criticizes Democrats' spending
* Man charged in library knife attack to get mental exam
* Mitsubishi plant in Normal ends production
* Interim chancellor: Illinois football needed stability
* 1st-term Belleville alderwoman Schmidt dies
* 2 candidates challenging US Sen. Mark Kirk in GOP primary
* Aurora rapist gets 6 years for failing to report new address
* EXCHANGE: Kids get peek at work of veterinary clinic
* Bionic thumb allows Illinois man to 'do fantastic things'

* U of I index shows economic growth despite state budget deadlock
* Rauner, Democrats hold first meeting in months on state budget
* U of I index shows growth despite state budget deadlock
* Rauner, Democrats hope for best with budget summit
* Syrian refugees become issue in Illinois Senate race
* Cities, counties demand action amid Illinois budget mess
* Two file to run against Rodney Davis as candidates rush to beat Monday deadline
* Candidates rush to beat Monday filing deadline
* Judge orders Illinois to pay home health workers' insurance
* Cities, counties struggle during Illinois budget mess

* Vance Publishing to sell off business
* GE, MetLife back wind farm that will run Microsoft's Chicago data center
* D.C. deal would revive Ex-Im Bank
* Downstate Mitsubishi plant makes last vehicle
* Bricks-and-mortar sales plummeted over Thanksgiving

* Sweet: Kirk unleashes attack ad on Duckworth
* Patrick Kane named NHL’s first star of the month
* Sneed: Garry McCarthy blindsided by firing
* History of Chicago top cops facing heat
* Rauner, leaders vow to negotiate, but stick to their talking points
* This Blackhawks player has more shorthanded goals than any active player
* Steinberg: Emanuel’s solution creates three new problems
* Blackhawks release roster for Alumni Game during Stadium Series
* Payton goal: Raise $1.1 million to save 12 teachers CPS could cut in February
* State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez postpones fundraiser with no explanation

* River search ends for missing man but police now looking on land
* Emanuel dismisses top cop Garry McCarthy as pressure for change built
* Dash-cam video of another fatal shooting by Chicago police is sought
* West Englewood shooting wounds 1
* Man charged with U. of C. threat released to mother's custody
* Interim Chicago police superintendent is 29-year veteran of force
* Online threat made against Somonauk High School
* After McDonald killing, Emanuel tries to buy time with police task force
* Ventra app gets first big test among Metra commuters
* 'Water recovery operation' underway as search for missing McHenry man continues

* U of I index shows economic growth despite state budget deadlock
* Rauner, Democrats hold first meeting in months on state budget
* Syrian refugees become issue in Illinois Senate race
* Cities, counties demand action amid Illinois budget mess
* Kathleen Parker: The pathology of Trump-itis
* Two file to run against Rodney Davis as candidates rush to beat Monday deadline
* Judge orders Illinois to pay home health workers' insurance
* James Durkin: Compromise needed to restore Illinois' standing
* Bernard Schoenburg: Book on Blagojevich impeachment lets reader 'be right there'

* Woman not guilty by reason of insanity in plot to kill ex-boyfriend
* SportsTalk 12-01-15
* PODCAST: Jim Hires, CEO of Eastern Illinois Foodbank
* Plea to hitting daughter brings prison
* Updated: Fire quickly extinguised at florist in Fisher
* No criminal charges in golf course damage
* 13-year-old believed to have started fire that destroyed Fisher building
* Mexico experts: Passageway may lead to Aztec ruler's tomb
* Danville police seek two in armed robbery of gas station
* Rietz wants to try 17-year-old as adult

* Budget meeting brings drama, not solutions
* How Police Chief McCarthy's firing increases pressure on Alvarez
* Barrington student accused of carrying gun, drugs in school
* Barrington student charged as adult over gun at school
* Body matching description of missing McHenry man found in Fox River

* House lawmakers overcome hurdle on key tra...
* Rodney Davis talks funding with Bloomingto...
* The agency that fought Illiana gets a new ...
* Rep. Dold takes educational cruise down Ch...
* Lawmakers decry high turnover rate of VA h...
* CBD Oil, and politics
* Simon considering state Senate bid
* Killer Congressman Tom MacArthur trying to...
* Shutdown? State may not notice
* Rep. Bob Dold

* Senator Durbin: House-Senate Transportatio......
* Dems to try to remove Planned Parenthood l......
* US Senators fault federal settlement with ......

* 2 candidates file paperwork to challenge U......
* Syrian refugees become issue in Illinois S......

* Judge: State Must Make Payments For Home Health Care Worker Insurance
* Obama's State Of The Union Address Set For January 12
* Conservationists Push To Fund Illinois' Protected Lands
* McCarthy Out, Chicagoans Continue To Press For Specific Policing Reforms (VIDEO)
* No CAPS Meeting Tonight at Truman -- No 19th District CAPS Meetings In December
* Cook County Commissioner Jesus Garcia, Chicago Aldermen Call For Cook County State's Attorney Anita Alvarez's Resignation
* Politicians Join Call For Anita Alvarez To Resign As Laquan McDonald Case Unfolds
* Illinois' Juvenile Imprisonment Rate Drops, Racial Disparities Continue
* Giving Smart In Illinois On Giving Tuesday
* Illinois REALTORS® in vanguard of those building successful RPAC effort

* Emergency Management Officials, National Weather Service Encourage Winter Preparedness - November is Winter Weather Preparedness Month in Illinois
* Keep Your Family Safe This Winter - November through February are leading months for carbon monoxide related incidents
* Governor Takes Bill Action
* Illinois Department of Labor Director Hugo Chaviano Awards Governor’s Award for Contributions in Health and Safety to the Illinois Refining Division of Marathon Petroleum Company LP
* State Regulator Elected Treasurer of Interstate Medical Licensure Compact

Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller