It was great to escape for a while, but reality comes back tomorrow. Unfortunately, I don’t see it magically changing Rauner or Madigan to reach out and make deals. I’d be more optimistic if the President also arranged a private meeting with all of the leaders to reinforce this message and try to be the broker.
“If 99% of us voted, it wouldn’t matter how much the 1% spend”
- hisgirlfriday - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 2:13 pm:
Seems like in an actually functioning legislature with trust and goodwill maybe there would be compromise to be had on a bill for redistricting plus automatic voter registration. But there’s not so there isn’t.
Regarding drive-bys, other than Anonymous 2:10 and 2:15. Seriously? This speech absolutely sounded like Obama’s voice. He hires his speechwriters, he works with them, he edits their work. What is the point of your remark?
First, if you want to be a proper troll, you’ll need to come up with a clever nickname so we know it’s you next time.
Second, what makes you think he didn’t write his own speech? Of course he has speech writers. I’m sure he didn’t spend hours researching famous historical presidential insults in his spare time, but that doesn’t mean he can’t claim authorship.
His oratory skills have never been his problem. I know someone who talked with Sen Schumer and he said during his first few years in office President Obama just wasnt a very good negotiator. And before this soeech it seemed as though he had just given uo and was gonna EO his way through it.
There actually was a pickup doing so, and I ask because afterward I was told they did it on MLK day too. Sickening, and the lack of respect for the office and the president regardless of whether you agree or not, is pretty low. Almost as low as the driver of that truck.
Anon, did it undercut what he said about the disgusting effects of money in politics? I ask because selling your vote is not the same thing as negotiating a compromise. Dunkin didn’t see the light, he saw dollar signs, and now his campaign is flush with cash from Rauner’s democratic front group. Hmmmm. This isn’t rocket science.
I drove to Springfield 9 years ago today to hear his announcement and was just as moved.
I hope both sides of the aisle were listening.
- The Dude Abides - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 2:33 pm:
It was a great speech. It was conciliatory, non partisan and a civics lesson all rolled into one. I hope Rauner and Madigan and their Lieutenants take a few of his points to heart and get to work. His point about divided Government and not being able to get everything you want is sound advice.
A very good speech (not incredible, but better than good) — considering our current issues in Illinois. Measured — reminds some that an unwillingness to negotiate, and seek out compromise — ARE the problem. It leaves him free of too much criticism of partisan politics, while it reminds us rhetoric, name-calling, personal attacks say more about US than about the subject(s) of our attacks. Someone above said it best: I will miss this guy, and all that he has accomplished. I truly believe that history will rank him among the greats, decades from now.
Okay, beyond the speech — the jab at Dunkin is still a highlight of the day… (smile).
BTW — one of the best — and most telling — photographs I saw from today was Rauner greeting Obama on the tarmac. Not sure what Rauner was wearing — some weird, short, rumpled jacket — but the visual distinction between the two — Rauner in his crappy, wrinkled jacket, Obama in his black trenchcoat — was quite telling. Pretty much sums it up — for me, at least.
Unfortunately, speech was a microcosm of his presidency. Lofty rhetoric; terrific delivery, but light on substance and heavy on hypocrisy. He literally called out Dunkin in the middle of a passage about how compromising across the aisle doesn’t make you a sell out. Plus he derides money in politics, but leaves Springfield and heads to a fundraiser in California. Words and actions don’t square.
Obama makes speech about compromise. Dunkin was first political casualty of compromise. About money you say? He voted to override, got money from Illinois GO. If he voted yes to override, he gets money from labor. How the world goes ’round.
I think that he struck a good balance by saying something of vital importance to both Illinois and the Nation. Bravo President Obama!
- So Blue Democrat - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 2:54 pm:
It takes two to tangle. Remember it was the GOP
that refused to cooperate with him. Healthcare is a great example. None of them voted for the Affordable Care Act even though it was originally a Republican plan. I can give numerous examples.
I liked the message that we need more compromise in government and politics.
- No Longer A Lurker - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 2:57 pm:
The Dunkin jab. Any chance there is a photo out there of Dunkin after the jab?
Dunkin’s snuggle up with Rauner has nothing to do with bipartisanship or compromise. It has everything to do with Rauner dumping a truckload of money on his front porch.
- Just Saying .... - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 3:06 pm:
I hope those Capitol staffers learn from what he said today about civility and decorum. Calling any elected official, who has demonstrate dedicated service for over 40 years, as a “Sleazy” political, must know their tactics are not constructive.
Very good speech; will probably have little effect on impasse. Will miss this POTUS. He’s shown tremendous patience and class in weathering the hateful response to his presidency (I mean the birthers, etc.; not sincere opposition to his policies).
I was puzzled at first by the Dunkin remark. It seemed inconsistent with his message until I read here that Dunkin shouted out first. Now I see it as a good example of Obama’s repartee, usually done well with enough humor to keep things friendly (when friendly is possible to begin with). His quip on executive actions was also good. That was at his own expense, but could also apply to some of Rauner’s recent moves.
For those of you who think its hypocrisy to point out the distinction between policy compromise and political maneuvering with the “Dunkin Jab” (great branding), you should turn around because the point likely sailed over your head while you typed and may have landed behind you.
- There is power in a union... - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 3:47 pm:
Oh poor Dunkin. You should have stayed quiet. The president is better at this than you. And far wittier.
Now go drown your sorrows with some smores at the camp-out in front of the speakers office.
X-Prof…. Every President has to weather hateful speech by his adversaries. Obama is far from alone in that.
I see from reading the comments that most here missed the point of the talk. I’m not shocked, given that Obama admitted that further polarization is a failing of his presidency. The content of his speech does not match his deeds. To be clear, I’m not saying the other side is any better; but this is no MLK,who did stay positive in the face of much more.
I hope both sides find a way to work together. So far neither has….
C-dog - no way Obama wants to deal with Madigan either….
- David Starrett - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 3:59 pm:
This is the Barack I remember. Relaxed, conversational, analytical and always with a sense of humor. I agreed with everything he said, and have worked on some of it in the past.
The problem is that he is selling truffles to creatures more interested in explosives and chainmaille. It’s pretty difficult to envision an epiphany in any of the caucuses as a result of this well-deserved sermon. Leadership will cherry-pick and spin, and then tell their members to return to the “real world” they have created.
I got back from the Hoogland (sp?) event. It made me genuinely happy to see grown men and women reach out their hand just to touch the president. It wipes away the cynicism of this process, even for a minute. People reaching out as if he were a deity. And I know I saw people there that may have worked against him in some elections, that brings just a touch of idealism to Springfield.
- There is power in a union... - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 4:25 pm:
- JoanP - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 4:06 pm:
@ C-dog: “Has a former POTUS ever run for Governor? ”
No, but John Quincy Adams spent 18 years in the House of Representatives after his presidency.”
In 1833 he ran for governor of Massachusetts, lost, then stayed in the House.
Most memorable was the Dunkin slam but liked the Presidnet’s tone of not allowing perfect to become the enemy of the good, wish all sides would listen. Dunkin could be toast now though no matter how much $$$$$$ Proft and Rauner throw at the race.
- There is power in a union... - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 4:37 pm:
Gruntled, Dunkin is all about Dunkin. A legend in his own mind…
@Anony. Really? Which other president had his place of birth (Kenya?) and the legitimacy of his presidency questioned in the way this one has? Which has had a significant fraction of the opposing party question his religion (secret Muslim?)? Which has had a member of congress yell out that he was lying during the SoS? And which has had the leadership of the opposing party tacitly support all this?
Do feelings get strong over policy differences? Sure, I was not at all fond of Johnson (D) and Nixon (R) during the Vietnam days, and many Republicans had/have similar feelings about Pres. Clinton. But that was all about policy differences, and none of it compares to the overt racism Obama has had to deal with … that’s beyond the usual antagonism over legitimate policy differences.
Rather like a tired performer appearing at the Illinois State Fair. He is no longer capable of appearing at major venues, so he is reduced to accepting dates in the provinces.
- Former Hoosier - Wednesday, Feb 10, 16 @ 5:58 pm:
===@Anony. Really? Which other president had his place of birth (Kenya?) and the legitimacy of his presidency questioned in the way this one has? Which has had a significant fraction of the opposing party question his religion (secret Muslim?)? Which has had a member of congress yell out that he was lying during the SoS? And which has had the leadership of the opposing party tacitly support all this?===
Agree 100% To all those who say Pres. Obama is the one who caused the grid lock, I say BS! Ex-prof nicely summed it up. The overt racism shown to our president is shameful. And to those who say the fact he was elected shows there is no more racism, I say wake-up and look around- pay attention to what’s really going on.
I think he enjoyed his visit immensely. A good dose of midwestern normal is probably very refreshing after the fishbowl of DC. Just because our state government is dysfunctioning doesnt mean the normal people are. Kinda puts DC in perspective is my guess.
You also cannot have a speech calling for bi-partisan ship when you only let folks of your party fly on Air Force One, and use the speech to help a political candidate look better than her opponent. Bad form.
–Liked the speech. As Reagan would have said; he appealed to our better angels.–
Lincoln, First Inaugural:
–“We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory will swell when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.”–
Lately when the governor talks about compromise I think of this skit. It’s like he’s offering a choice of egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; or egg bacon sausage and spam; and the Democrats are like, “I don’t like spam.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
The Dunkin comment shows…he really does not mean what he says….”get along” work together? I am going to mock the person that dared to step out of Madigan’s army… the fact many liked that comment shows just how out of touch you all are…
- Property of IDOC - Thursday, Feb 11, 16 @ 12:42 am:
I hope he returns to Illinois politics, speaker would be perfect, but I believe he is destine for far more. I love our president and actually pray the republicans paid attention.
Obama’s speechwriters obviously did not do their homework: the quotation “Politics ain’t beanbag” was not coined by Harold Washington. It was the work of author/journalist Finley Peter Dunne. His columns popularized the legendary Archer Avenue bartender “Mister Dooley” who acted as an observer of the passing political parade.
- I'm Right and you are not! - Thursday, Feb 11, 16 @ 7:47 am:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ…Sorry never drank his “KOOLAID”.
A very pleasing, head-clearing speech to watch, but he’s too nice. I personally go with the Sun Times editorial about Rauner and his enablers destroying the engine that runs the car. Maybe we could have another S-T editorial, in the form of an apology for their endorsement in 2014.
The Dunkin jab. Love him or hate him, Dunkin (and McCann) has/have done one thing that no one else has: Dare to buck party leadership. With Dunkin, he put the kibosh on an attempt by Madigan to demonstrate to the governor who is boss. I care more about child care than foolish political games in the GA, and it is (gulp) time for folks who genuinely care about moving forward to give Dunkin his due. McCann also showed courage.
And Obama couldn’t resist making that dig. It was a great line, but it undercut everything he said. Disappointing.
I’m disappointed the comments on here have gone the way of the Huffington Post or other regular media stories. It used to be insightful. Now it seems to be mostly “Oh, yeah?!…well, my side says…” Gonna have to just stick to reading Rich’s writing and ignoring comments from now on. Waste of WAY too much time.
- working stiff - Thursday, Feb 11, 16 @ 11:59 am:
great speech. had to search it out to watch at home last night after work. used lunch time to finish reading all the comments and then did a search as i noticed someone missing here. surprised to find that person decided not to comment.