Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » Director Shah tosses more patients to the curb
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      About     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact Rich Miller
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Director Shah tosses more patients to the curb

Tuesday, Mar 28, 2017 - Posted by Rich Miller

* This is ridiculous

The Illinois Department of Public Health has rejected intractable pain and autism spectrum disorder as medical conditions that could be treated with medical cannabis.

The petition to add intractable pain to the medical marijuana program was submitted in July 2015 to the Medical Cannabis Advisory Board.

Department of Public Health Director Nirav Shah on Monday noted in rejecting the petition that none of the information submitted demonstrated an individual diagnosed with intractable pain could benefit from medical cannabis.

So, instead, we condemn these people to a life of opioid use? Seriously, if the pain is truly intractable, then why deny suffering patients something that can help?

Shah’s rulings have been overturned numerous times in court. Let’s hope this one is as well.

       

35 Comments
  1. - A guy - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:10 am:

    This just defies logic.


  2. - Boat captain - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:11 am:

    Disgusting that people have to use opioids instead of marijuana. Big pharmaceuticals like it but it is cruel to the patient that’s dealing with their conditions. Unbelievable.


  3. - Homer J. Quinn - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:12 am:

    “NO! because reasons.”

    the bipartisan consensus on cannabis is similar to that on climate change: delay, delay, delay, using whatever justification is convenient. pretend there’s still a debate about safety. pretend 66% public support is meaningless because you’ve “heard things.” no matter how much evidence is stacked against you, pretend it’s just not quite enough.


  4. - Springfieldish - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:16 am:

    Worse still, in an environment dominated by budget issues and a burgeoning “austerity” mentality, this decision guaranties another court case with its attendant costs. C’mon! Shouldn’t this person represent the patients first and the reign-pullers second?


  5. - working stiff - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:19 am:

    directors are appointed. doing as rauner says.

    rauner is business.

    pharmaceuticals are big business.

    any questions?


  6. - illinoised - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:20 am:

    I don’t believe his reasoning. Instead, I think he is just acting as a de facto morals policeman.


  7. - A Jack - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:24 am:

    Perhaps a reason that people are leaving the state is that now they can find treatment for their pain in places like Colorado and California without fear of persecution.

    Of course the lack of budget is the major reason, but all these other arcane laws certainly have a bearing.


  8. - the shizle - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:25 am:

    Obviously he didn’t inhale either!


  9. - Moby - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:29 am:

    I’m guessing that regardless of the Director’s professional opinion, he’s doing what Uncle Bruce tells him to do.


  10. - Henry Francis - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:36 am:

    How can anyone believe that marijuana doesn’t have some benefit to people in pain?

    I would hate to think this has anything to do with the Guv’s holdings in pharma companies. Or GTCR’s.


  11. - northshore cynic - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:44 am:

    Intractable pain = Illinois General Assembly and Governor Rauner


  12. - Wow - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:49 am:

    Following orders from the 2nd floor, from a billionaire who doesn’t care about people and their pain.


  13. - frisbee - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:49 am:

    Gov. Rauner is upset because the Cassidy/Steans legalization bills now have polling data to support them and he is stuck toting the line of his buddies telling him bad things about Colorado. So this is what we get, a doctor claiming that cannabis can’t help those suffering from intractable pain or autism.


  14. - @MisterJayEm - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:53 am:

    Before adding Intractable Pain to the list of the qualifying conditions are eligible to receive medical cannabis in Minnesota, the Minnesota Department of Health contracted with the Minnesota Evidence-based Practice Center to do a systematic literature review and grading of evidence on cannabis use for treating chronic non-cancer pain.

    Medical Cannabis for Non-Cancer Pain: A Systematic Review

    – MrJM


  15. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 10:57 am:

    Despicable, forcing people to seek dangerous, addictive hard drugs.

    Is the Reefer Madness administration not aware of the opioid epidemic, and the body count associated with it?

    I bet even the governor’s Denver friends have heard about it.


  16. - Last Bull Moose - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 11:02 am:

    The intractable pain ruling makes no sense.

    Autism spectrum disorder is complicated. Marijuana might help some and hurt others. I would give the doctors the right to prescribe, but require them to document effects.


  17. - Don Gerard - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 11:13 am:

    “If I were King there would be no marijuana - medical or otherwise - anywhere. I think it is bad for families. I’m a libertarian, but not when it comes to marijuana.” ~ Governor Bruce “Call Me ‘Bruce’; I work for YOU” Rauner, to me (et al), January 2015 at meeting of local municipal officials in Rantoul.


  18. - Homer J. Quinn - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 11:31 am:

    but good ol’ alcohol has never been bad for families, right bruce? wine’s just so wholesome.


  19. - Rich Miller - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 11:35 am:

    ===wine’s just so wholesome===

    Hey. It is.


  20. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 11:41 am:

    Not a box at a time, though


  21. - hisgirlfriday - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 11:44 am:

    Such pointless careless cruelty. The Rauner Way.


  22. - ditto - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 11:44 am:

    IDPH shouldn’t be making decisions based on terminology. They should let docs use every tool in their toolbelt to assist their patients. If marijuana will help then absolutely.


  23. - Nick Name - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 11:47 am:

    “Not a box at a time, though”

    Speak for yourself.


  24. - JS Mill - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 11:52 am:

    @Dr. Shah- so much for the hypocratic oath.


  25. - illinoised - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 12:04 pm:

    Dr. Shah, I will be thinking of your at 420.


  26. - Moby - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 12:20 pm:

    The irony, and adsurdity, in all of this is that IDPH has been mandated, along with other state agencies, to address the opioid crisis. But yet, it is preventing a safer, possibly more affective substance for pain management from being utilized.


  27. - Homer J. Quinn - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 12:28 pm:

    vaporizers have existed for decades and invalidate your concern-trolling about the dangers of smoke.


  28. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 12:38 pm:

    Saluki, your willful ignorance is appalling and downright mean.

    Plenty of sick folks testified in Springfield that med mar was a way for them to get off prescription opioids.

    What makes it your business to deprive them of a safer, non-addictive alternative to legal smack to relieve suffering? No skin off your nose.


  29. - Rich Miller - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 12:39 pm:

    ===your willful ignorance is appalling and downright mean===

    And deleted. Always so much disinformation from that person.


  30. - justpeachy - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 1:44 pm:

    @Don Gerard-Obviously you have never experienced chronic pain that the docs are unable to provide any relief from with their current arsenal of drugs, they are only able to subdue the pain with Opioids. I hope and pray no one in your family ever experiences this and needs Medical Cannabis. So closed minded!


  31. - Anon Downstate - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 2:05 pm:

    Couple things regarding medical Marijuana….

    When folks talk about medical Marijuana, there are several different sub-sets involved:

    CBD (cannabidiol hemp oil, or CBD hemp oil). Normally only contains trace amounts of THC.

    THC (High concentrations of psychoactive tetrahydrocannabinol).

    CBD oil (and capsules, patches, etc.) are legal, but a large percentage of the commercially available products come out of Colorado. Why? Because, potential growers and harvesters in Illinois are unwilling to bear the risk of getting caught up into the potential legal concerns here in Illinois.

    THC is really what the fight is over, and I’m sure that Governor Rauner is telling the truth when he talks about hearing things out of Colorado from the people he listens to, but many of those comments are from parties that have vested interests in stopping, or at least slowing the spread of Medical Marijuana.

    IMO, I’m in favor of Medical Marijuana simply because it will break Big Pharma’s stranglehold over we, the health consumers.

    But from anecdotal experiences, the biggest problem with Medical Marijuana is that it tends to give the users a case of the “munchies” (eating more snacks) than creating “Reefer Madness”.

    Also, Medical Marijuana could become a very viable business here in Illinois, outside of the Chicagoland area. That’s jobs……

    We have fantastic Agricultural facilities at both Illinois State University and University of Illinois - Urbana/Champaign (College of ACES).

    We have in our State Universities the facilities, knowledge, technology, and talent available to rapidly become a world leader in Medical Marijuana. We just have to decide to take the steps to make it happen.


  32. - Homer J. Quinn - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 2:15 pm:

    “CBD oil (and capsules, patches, etc.) are legal”

    not anymore. the DEA declared CBD to be schedule 1 on 12/14/16.


  33. - frisbee - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 3:31 pm:

    Anon Downstate- I agree that there is CBD oil derived from hemp and there is CBD oil derived from cannabis that is grown for medical purposes. The big difference is that the CBD hemp oil takes a far larger amount of hemp to make any type of substantial CBD content and since hemp and cannabis are bioaccumulators there will be large amounts of heavy metals and potentially other toxins in hemp CBD oil. Don’t buy it, even if it is available at the vape stores, gas stations online etc. The CBD oil derived from medical cannabis will have substantial amounts of CBD since it will be extracted from cannabis strains that are high in CBD content, like Charlotte’s Web, AC/DC, Cannatsu etc.

    Also the AOCS (American Oil Chemists Society) is very active and engaged in standardizing the oil extraction of CBD and other cannabinoids.

    The biggest problem with medical cannabis is that the feds are in the way. This results in lack of banking access for the industry, no insurance coverage of the costs of the medicine and absurd hurdles for studying this plant based medicine.


  34. - crazybleedingheart - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 5:29 pm:

    Jim Durkin and Christine Radogno of DuPage County should have a contrary position on this. As should every other collar county GOP member.

    Shameful.

    Pass a real med-mar bill. Call it the opioid abuse prevention act. Do it now.

    People are suffering and some are dying.


  35. - ThingsArentAsTheySeem - Wednesday, Mar 29, 17 @ 8:22 am:

    - JS Mill - Tuesday, Mar 28, 17 @ 11:52 am:

    @Dr. Shah- so much for the hypocratic oath.

    Actually, Shah has never taken a Hippocratic oath because he has NEVER been a practicing physician. Going to med school does not make you a doctor. He used his med and law degree to work for pharmaceutical companies. Make sense now?

    Interestingly enough, although Shah has never has never practiced, he still uses the MD title… violation of the IL Medical Practice Act? Why are we allowing a man who has never seen a patient, make decisions about patient health? Ask any practicing physician about their thoughts on this. They will likely gasp and face palm.

    Thanks Rauner, man of the people.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* *** UPDATED x1 - Equality Illinois 'alarmed' over possible Harris appointment *** Personal PAC warns Democratic committeepersons about Sen. Napoleon Harris
* Isabel’s afternoon roundup
* A helpful White Sox disaster visualization
* Pritzker addresses 'hysteria' over asylum-seekers
* *** All clear *** Capitol Building evacuation order issued (Updated)
* Illinois Credit Unions: Member Driven Financial Cooperatives
* Feigenholtz predicts Healthcare Protection Act will 'fly out of the Senate'
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Fundraiser list
* The left's city hall tactics won't work in Springfield (Updated x3)
* State's opioid settlement bureaucracy is a tangled, ineffective mess
* It’s just a bill
* Open thread
* Isabel’s morning briefing
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Live coverage
* Capitol Complex bomb threat "not deemed credible" after lockdown, sweep
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Loading


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller