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Chicago survives the first cut in Amazon HQ2 sweepstakes

Thursday, Jan 18, 2018 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Crain’s

Amazon today announced that it has picked 20 metro areas “to move to the next phase of the process” as it looks for a home for a second headquarters. The 20 areas in alphabetical order:

    Atlanta
    Austin, Texas
    Boston
    Chicago
    Columbus, Ohio
    Dallas
    Denver
    Indianapolis
    Los Angeles
    Miami
    Montgomery County, Md.
    Nashville, Tenn.
    Newark, N.J.
    New York City
    Northern Virginia
    Philadelphia
    Pittsburgh
    Raleigh, N.C.
    Toronto
    Washington D.C.

The list is a broad mix of cities big and small, ranging from Columbus, Ohio, and Indianapolis to Los Angeles and New York. It includes many of the early favorites, including Austin, Denver, Boston, Toronto and Washington, D.C. Three of the 20 finalists are near the nation’s capital, where Amazon has 2,500 employees.

Chicago was seen as a likely contender, based on Amazon’s criteria of wanting to be in an urban area with more than 1 million people within 45 minutes of an international airport and preferably have direct access to mass transit.

Discuss.

…Adding… Tribune

“Today we are announcing the communities that will proceed to the next step in the HQ2 process. Getting from 238 to 20 was very tough — all the proposals showed tremendous enthusiasm and creativity,” Amazon tweeted.

On its website, Amazon said, “In the coming months, Amazon will work with each of the candidate locations to dive deeper into their proposals, request additional information as necessary, and evaluate the feasibility of a future partnership that can accommodate our hiring plans as well as benefit our employees and the local community. We expect to make a decision in 2018.”

Illinois, Chicago and Cook County teamed up to offer more than $2 billion in incentives to Amazon, and offered 10 proposed sites. They are Lincoln Yards, a development along the Chicago River near Lincoln Park and Bucktown; the Downtown Gateway District, which includes space in Willis Tower and redevelopment of the old main post office and Union Station; City Center Campus, a proposed redevelopment of the state-owned Thompson Center in the Loop; the River District, a 37-acre development along the river and Halsted Street; the Burnham Lakefront, a Bronzeville development that includes the Michael Reese Hospital site; the 78, a development planned on 62 acres along the river between the South Loop and Chinatown; Fulton Market district properties controlled by multiple owners; Illinois Medical District redevelopment; the soon-to-be-vacated, 145-acre McDonald’s campus in Oak Brook, which the company will leave for Fulton Market; and more than 260 acres available for development on the longtime Motorola Solutions campus in Schaumburg, where Zurich North America recently built a new headquarters.

…Adding… Mayor Emanuel’s office…

Today’s news makes clear that Amazon recognizes Chicago’s great strengths - access to talent, transportation, higher education, affordability and quality of life, which are the keys to growth and prosperity.

As companies including GE Healthcare, ConAgra and McDonalds have concluded, Chicago offers unparalleled opportunities, and we are going to continue to work as a region to make the case to Amazon that Chicago is the ideal location for HQ2. We are prepared to compete at the next level and the next level after that.

       

51 Comments
  1. - JoanP - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:30 am:

    I don’t understand. I thought businesses were fleeing the state, not coming here. At least, so says He-Who-Is-Not-In-Charge.


  2. - m - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:32 am:

    At least we no longer have to worry about whether the gov is helping the St Louis bid. That would have been awful to get a bunch of good paying jobs for the Metro East area & Southern Illinois.


  3. - Angry Republican - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:33 am:

    My money is on Northern Virginia. Amazon needs a presence where all the government officials and lobbyists are located.


  4. - Just Visiting - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:33 am:

    This is just Amazon’s way of asking these locations “What else you got to give us?”


  5. - Nick Name - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:34 am:

    Because his re-election chances depend on this failing, Rauner will try to derail it, and then blame Madigan.


  6. - Christopher - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:36 am:

    I am surprised at just how many locations are still in contention. But Chicago has always been considered to be “centrally located,” in addition to its other qualities, so perhaps we still have a chance.


  7. - Stones - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:38 am:

    Good thing the Governor has spent the better part of the last couple of years trashing the State and talking about how businesses want to flee Illinois. Maybe if we heard a little more positive talk Illinois might have a better chance.


  8. - hisgirlfriday - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:39 am:

    So 3 of the 20 picks are DC adjacent? Putting their HQ 2 there would be one way to ensure govt keeps their monopoly afloat.

    Still as much as I worry about their clout I can’t help purchasing stuff through Amazon. Wish we didn’t have such an incompetent for governor trying to help woo this thing to IL


  9. - Sue - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:40 am:

    Yes Joan it’s either Chicago or Newark. LOL


  10. - Arsenal - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:41 am:

    ==My money is on Northern Virginia. Amazon needs a presence where all the government officials and lobbyists are located.==

    It helps that Bezos just bought a house in DC.


  11. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:41 am:

    (Sigh)

    In this “round”, if Chicago *wasn’t* a Top 20 choice, that would be making news.

    See me when it’s down to 5-6 to get a true measure and how much of a contender Chicago is when it’s going to matter.

    Chicago is a Top 20 choice for any company. #NotAlternativeFact

    As an aside, Detroit not making the cut was a mild eyebrow raiser. Location (including proximity to Canada), property to build, a chance to make and shape a city that’s evolving…

    That’s news, for me.


  12. - SSL - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:44 am:

    This would be a game changer and help Chicago and Illinois to turn things around. Regardless of who the governor is. Hopefully our leaders can stop bickering long enough to allow this to happen.


  13. - Rogue Roni - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:44 am:

    Rauner should go ahead and run up the Mission Accomplished banner


  14. - Smalls - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:46 am:

    It is pretty simple in my mind. Amazon will never select a location that has a cloud tax, as Chicago does. What many people don’t realize about Amazon is that a majority of their profits come from their cloud services. Therefore, they absolutely will not endorse a city that taxes these services. And I agree with Oswego Willy, at this point, it would be news if Chicago wasn’t among the top 20, based on the criteria Amazon publicly stated.


  15. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:48 am:

    No Milwaukee, St. Louis? Thanks, Madigan.

    Are the Cheeseheads out because the economy is on fire up yonder? Or because they’re already over-extended on the corporate welfare?

    Maybe Bezos is lactose intolerant. Sad to see that discrimination against white beverages still exists in 2018.

    What a circus. Amazon knows where they want to go, they’re just going through this “competition” to maximize the handout.

    It will be the biggest ever — until the next one.

    Because governments create jobs in the private sector.


  16. - Scott Cross for President - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:50 am:

    Good and hopeful news.


  17. - Just Observing - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:51 am:

    === t is pretty simple in my mind. Amazon will never select a location that has a cloud tax, as Chicago does. What many people don’t realize about Amazon is that a majority of their profits come from their cloud services. ===

    Well, keep in mind, “Chicago” probably doesn’t mean only the city proper, but Chicagoland.


  18. - Anonymous - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:55 am:

    I respect what Bezos has accomplished withAmazon. American traits of capitalism gone berserk with success. But I hate the way he is sitting on his throne, scepter in hand, awaiting the groveling toadies, begging for King Bezos to toss them a piece of the pie (which the winner will pay dearly).
    Like all the rest, his dY will come too. Remember, Sears was the king at one time.


  19. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 9:58 am:

    ===Amazon will never select a location that has a cloud tax, as Chicago does===

    Taxes can be repealed.


  20. - Grandson of Man - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:15 am:

    Chicago is a great city. I’m tired of right wingers exploiting it negatively for political gain. Trump does this. Rauner does it too. The city certainly has bad things and needs help, but in many ways it’s world class.

    Economic growth does not have to overrely on massive tax breaks to the wealthiest corporations. An article came out in which the vast majority of 100 big corporations who were asked have not indicated that they’ll invest the big corporate tax cut in employees—Apple notwithstanding.

    I would love and support Amazon coming to Chicago but would love also to see marijuana legalization and a casino. In this way we’d get tax revenue for economic growth rather than giving away large amounts of tax dollars, like Foxconn in Wisconsin.


  21. - Sue - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:17 am:

    Amazon just leased 500 thousand square feet of space with option for 500 more in Boston near the new waterfront area. That much space isn’t for anything else


  22. - RNUG - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:22 am:

    Have to believe they already have a much shorter list, like about 3 to 5 locations, and this is just another attempt to sweeten the incentives pot.

    I also believe one of the really big factors is an underutilized large airport with good rail and Interstate freight connections … and a large USPS facility. When you boil it down, this is all about shipping stuff. Not that you can’t build from scratch, but existing infrastructure helps.


  23. - Responsa - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:27 am:

    I don’t want the state or city to offer too many tax breaks etc. to Amazon to land them. But with Chicago’s history and reputation as the nation’s premier catalog/mail order retail center for a hundred years or so, (Sears and Montgomery Wards monster HQs going back into the 19th century) Amazon in Chicago as the 21st century’s version would be both logical and wonderful both for them and for us in carrying on this tradition.


  24. - Illinois Resident - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:27 am:

    —I would love and support Amazon coming to Chicago but would love also to see marijuana legalization and a casino. In this way we’d get tax revenue for economic growth rather than giving away large amounts of tax dollars, like Foxconn in Wisconsin.—

    GOM - Great point. Specifically cannabis legalization. It will create a new billion dollar industry with jobs, infrastructure, and tax revenue. That would be a much bigger accomplishment then landing Amazon which will be watered down with tax incentives to the company.


  25. - Downstate - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:37 am:

    Hopefully, they can structure a deal on prevailing wage for the project. Crain’s has a great article on “prevailing wage” in this state.

    As they point out, Vermillion County (Danville, IL) has an average “prevailing wage” over $100,000 per year. This is a county where the median household income is only $43k.

    Doesn’t sound like it’s reflective of the “prevailing wage” in the county.


  26. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:44 am:

    –Hopefully, they can structure a deal on prevailing wage for the project.–

    What are you talking about? How would prevailing wage apply for a corporate hq?


  27. - California Guy - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:45 am:

    @Downstate

    Prevailing wage applies to public construction projects. Amazon HQ will be a private development. If it’s in Chicago, the majority of workers will be union anyways.


  28. - Downstate - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:49 am:

    Word,
    If there are state tax credits involved it will often trigger a prevailing wage rate. Any grants will likely do so as well.


  29. - Last Bull Moose - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:53 am:

    One advantage of living in Chicago is not having to connect through O’Hare. Made a huge difference when I was consulting.

    Sears exited mail order just before the internet transformed the business. Foresight was lacking. I think their delivery systems were antiquated and inefficient. Talk about throwing away first mover advantage.


  30. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 10:54 am:

    ===As they point out, Vermillion County (Danville, IL) has an average “prevailing wage” over $100,000 per year. This is a county where the median household income is only $43k. ===

    Yep. Excellent idea. Just lower wages for skilled trades. What could possibly go wrong? Maybe McDonald’s can cut its prices some more.


  31. - Downstate - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 11:01 am:

    Rich,
    The “prevailing” wage rates in the counties are not reflective of what construction professionals actually receive. The increased cost of construction (30% or more) due to “prevailing” wage rates reduces the ability of local school districts to make necessary improvements to their infrastructure….as just one example.


  32. - Demoralized - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 11:06 am:

    Downstate:

    You are still advocating for cutting wages. That attitude is wrong.


  33. - Demoralized - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 11:08 am:

    ==median household income is only $43k==

    And I’m not sure why that’s relevant. We should be striving to reduce wages because they make more than the average? Nonsense.


  34. - City Zen - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 11:21 am:

    ==My money is on Northern Virginia.==

    Home of the most Amazon EC2 Availability Zones in the world: 6.

    Top 5 Rankings: Austin, Northern Virginia, Boston, Atlanta, Chicago.


  35. - Blue dog dem - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 11:50 am:

    I think we should up the ante to $3 billion and make a promise that Illinois will never attempt to tax online sales. While we are at it ,change the naming rights of Soldier Field to Amazon Arena.


  36. - California Guy - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 11:54 am:

    @Downstate

    Only the infrastructure portions of a project which end up become public property are subject to prevailing wage. Prevailing wage cannot apply to a private development without new legislation being passed, even if funds come from the State.

    I agree that wage controls like prevailing wage are wrong headed, but they won’t apply to Amazon’s development. Even if it did, that wouldn’t make much of a difference anyways seeing how they’re going to have to pay union rates in Chicago due to reasons other than prevailing wage anyways.


  37. - Almost the Weekend - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 12:12 pm:

    Downstate, the next skyscraper you build south of I 80 contact a non union company and see if they have the workforce or knowledge to build one.


  38. - Blue dog dem - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 12:32 pm:

    Almost. Many of the large commercial general contractors in the south and southwest blend high skilled union trades with non union low skilled jobs. Where the rub always comes in is the relaxed job description rules and trade ownership positions. It’s always difficult to compare apples to apples, but my experience shows it a bit cheaper to build in Dallas than Chicago. Weather factored in.


  39. - ZC - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 12:39 pm:

    I’m just amused “Northern Virginia” is listed in all the press releases as a city. Well, maybe that’s not a misnomer.


  40. - Da Big Bad Wolf - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 1:23 pm:

    Newark offered the most so it’s gonna go to Newark.


  41. - OurMagician - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 2:13 pm:

    Shocked that Kankakee’s prosposal to become “Amazon City” with Bezos International Airport didn’t pass the muster….


  42. - Downstate - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 2:40 pm:

    From the State of Illinois on the Prevailing wage act.

    ​What makes a project subject to the Act?
    All fixed works constructed by any public body or paid in whole or in part with public funds, including all projects funded or financed in whole or in part with bonds, grants, loans or other funds made available by or through the State or any of its political subdivisions, or undertaken by an institution supported in whole or in part by public funds. Landscape or modifications to real estate are included within the definition of fixed work. A project does not have to be for public use to be covered.


  43. - Downstate43 - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 2:53 pm:

    Along with the other cynics, a list of 20 “finalists” seems like nothing more than a blatant attempt to up the incentives.

    Objectively, having spent time in most of these areas, I’d put Chicago in the top 10, but with really strong competition from the other 9. There are 5 or 6 I can easily discount, based only on my experience vis a vis Amazon’s criteria. I also don’t think you can automatically discount some of the smaller metro areas, like Indy and Columbus, because of their proximity to other urban areas and the ability for something like Amazon HQ2 to make those cities career destinations in themselves.


  44. - California Guy - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 3:20 pm:

    @ Downstate

    I believe I stand corrected. The applicability of prevailing wage to PRIVATE construction projects CAN happen per the 2015 court ruling for Mt. Vernon. Understanding that, Amazon would be wise to negotiate a tax deal with Chicago/Illinois that does not lead to public funds being used to build the actual structure of HQ2.

    I looked up Chicago’s offer in a Crain’s article by G Heinz here: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20171023/BLOGS02/171029963/chicagos-offer-to-amazon-2-25-billion-in-incentives

    It looks like the incentives are in income tax breaks, public infrastructure spending, an employee “training fund,” and possibly free land. The offer does not appear to subsidize the construction activity of the building itself.


  45. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 3:27 pm:

    For some reason, Rauner dumped all over the Chicago bid earlier today.

    Maybe sit this one out, champ. Grownups are at work.

    http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20180118/BLOGS02/180119885/emanuel-rauner-clash-in-wake-of-amazon-news#utm_medium=email&utm_source=ccb-dailyalert&utm_campaign=ccb-dailyalert-20180118


  46. - RNUG - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 3:30 pm:

    Wouldn’t it be amazing if Chicago landed Amazon IN SPITE of Rauner?


  47. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 18, 18 @ 3:35 pm:

    The question asked about “climate” included the political climate(?)

    Why the antagonizing?

    Cooperation, or the appearance of it, seems to be something of a positive selling point…


  48. - Foster brooks - Friday, Jan 19, 18 @ 6:20 am:

    Boston according to WGN


  49. - Anonymous - Friday, Jan 19, 18 @ 7:25 am:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2018/01/amazon-hq2-20-cities/550790/


  50. - Anonymous - Friday, Jan 19, 18 @ 8:44 am:

    New Jersey is offering $7 billion to Amazon.


  51. - wordslinger - Friday, Jan 19, 18 @ 8:53 am:

    –Yes Joan it’s either Chicago or Newark. LOL–

    Take a look at a map. Newark is the next Brooklyn.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/08/nyregion/newark-development-projects.html


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