It’s just a bill
Tuesday, Feb 11, 2020 - Posted by Rich Miller
* WSIL TV…
A new bill proposed by a Northern Illinois lawmaker bans pumping your own fuel at all gas stations.
Illinois House Democrat Camille Y. Lilly who represents Oak Park near Chicago filed HB4571 with the Illinois General Assembly on February 5, 2020.
The synopsis for HB4571 states, “Creates the Gas Station Attendant Act. Provides that no gas may be pumped at a gas station in this State unless it is pumped by a gas station attendant employed at the gas station. Effective January 1, 2021.”
Yep, that’s what it says.
* WGEM…
WGEM’s Illinois Capital Bureau Chief Mike Miletich spoke with Rep. Lilly Monday afternoon. She says the bill will not ban pumping your own gas.
Lilly said the bill language will be amended to give people an option when they go to gas stations.
She said customers could ask for help from an attendant or pump the gas themselves.
Lilly says she saw this idea is working in Atlanta. She says it’s especially valuable for families with small children or people with disabilities. It also could help create local jobs.
It’s just so weird that she went ahead and filed a bill like that even though she doesn’t apparently support its basic concept.
* Nexstar…
Currently, Illinois Medicaid is not guaranteed to cover clinical cancer treatment.
That would change is Senator Andy Manar’s bill gets passed into law. The bill would require the state to cover approved experimental treatment.
The bill passed out of committee on Wednesday, and now will head to the Senate floor. If it passes through both the House and Senate, Illinois will become the 14th state to make the change.
* Press release…
In an effort to reduce property taxes in Illinois, State Representative Dan Ugaste (R-Geneva) has filed six bills to provide necessary property tax relief for Illinois taxpayers and businesses.
Rep. Ugaste’s legislation will allow taxpayers to consolidate government entities that are too expensive and to ease the high property tax burden weighing on residents in his 65th community and statewide.
“The Democrat controlled Property Tax Relief Task Force failed to produce any solutions to help our taxpayers,” Ugaste said. “Our high property taxes are forcing too many families and businesses to leave, and residents are fed up. The bills that I have filed are a step forward to provide the real relief the task force failed to do.”
Rep. Ugaste’s 2020 agenda includes the following bills:
· HB4493: Requires elementary and high school districts to form new unit districts together, instead of having separate school districts for each.
· HB 4494: Limits local units of government and their ability to continue bonds.
· HB4495: For redevelopment projects, “blighted areas” must have a household median income of 100% or less of the area median income, as defined by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.
· HB4496: Allows voters to consolidate townships if other units of government can operate more efficiently.
· HB4498: Limits tax increment financing (TIF) to 15 years.
· HB4762: Prohibits taxing districts from holding more than 150% of the previous levy year’s property tax collections and requires excess amounts to be refunded to taxpayers.
- Pick a Name - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:29 am:
I am absolutely stunned this bill was introduced by a democrat.
Are you kidding me??
- RIP Bernie Epton - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:31 am:
Good to see an Illinois Democrat address the tough issues facing Illinois. Also, does that bill apply to diesel cars?
- Generic Drone - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:31 am:
Doesn’t stand a chance.
- Precinct Captain - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:34 am:
New Jersey never moved to self serve.
- TheInvisibleMan - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:38 am:
Is the gas pumping bill just a shell bill, to be used later in the session for another purpose?
The response from the person who filed would seem to suggest that when reading between the lines.
- Groucho - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:40 am:
They should also ban people from dispensing their own soda pop at places like Five Guys and Culvers.
- njt - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:43 am:
===New Jersey never moved to self serve.===
As someone from the Garden State, this is to maintain the high quality pork roll sandwiches served at the same station while someone pumps your gas.
- City Zen - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:43 am:
==Lilly says she saw this idea is working in Atlanta.==
Is this what Lilly was talking about? Looks like it’s one gas station.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/south-fulton-county/gas-station-now-using-full-service-after-rash-of-slider-crimes/730804462/
- Commonsense in Illinois - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:43 am:
Well, as long as Jerry Springer doesn’t open the show with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BML01zMlqQ
- Bourbon Street - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:49 am:
Nothing restores ones faith in our democratic process like a legislator who doesn’t bother to read or can’t comprehend a bill that she introduced.
Also, did Rep. Lilly think through the consequences of the bill? Either everyone will have to leave their car and walk into the mini-mart to pay for gas or give the payment to the attendant. Unless the driver has exact change, there’s a delay until the attendant returns with the change or credit card receipt. What a colossal waste of time.
- Anon221 - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:52 am:
Most gas stations ( perhaps all because of ADA) already have a sign stating how to get help pumping gas if you have a disability.
How this is playing in Peoria-
“But Beachler’s Vehicle Care & Repair Owner, Terry Beachler, said there is a reason most gas stations switched over to self-service.
“’It’s no different now, we’ve been there done that. It just didn’t work out. The economics did not support the very small percentage of customers who wanted the full-service.” Beachler added, ‘Customers would be waiting in line for somebody to pump their gas, and you’d be enjoy much higher gasoline prices to cover the labor cost involved in it. That’s one we gotta take and through in the trash bin.’”
https://week.com/2020/02/10/motorists-and-business-owners-reaction-to-proposed-ban-on-pumping-your-own-gas-in-illinois/
- Ok - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:53 am:
At least keep up with the times…
Would have been a far more viable bill if Rep. Lilly’s would have written a bill that “Provides that no electric vehicle may be plugged in to an electric vehicle charging station in this State unless it is plugged in by a certified electrician employed at the gas station.”
You at least get labor on board with that one.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:55 am:
===You at least get labor on board===
Now you’re thinkin’
- Anon221 - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:55 am:
ADA info on pumping gas-
https://www.ada.gov/gasserve.htm
- DIstant watcher - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:55 am:
Of the six bills Rep Ugaste filed, four were mentioned in the draft task force report.
Can’t we just all get along?
- Donnie Elgin - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:56 am:
“Limits local units of government and their ability to continue bonds”
Good move by Ugaste - his bill would end the scam of the “no tax increase” tax increase. So many units of local government do this by continuing a levy for a bond payment that is paid off and set to roll off the tax bill.
Gail Borden ( Elgin) Library is just the latest to try this…
https://gailborden.info/NoTaxRateIncreaseReferendum
- A Jack - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:58 am:
Even if the bill didn’t ban people from pumping their own gas (which the bill looks like it does), then every gas station would have to hire an extra person just to pump gas just in case someone wants that service. With gas station margins as tight as they are, this bill could bankrupt a lot of Illinois small business gas stations.
- 17% Solution - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:58 am:
== That would change is Senator Andy Manar’s bill gets passed into law. The bill would require the state to cover approved experimental treatment.==
I guess the devil is in the details. Who does the approving?
- Bourbon Street - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 9:59 am:
Thinking this through further, I suppose a driver could hand their credit card to the attendant so that the attendant could swipe it at the pump. I’d rather do the swiping myself, however, so I can check to see if the device has been tampered with (like we’re advised to do in order not to have our credit card info stolen).
In any event, last time I checked, most gas stations have a call button that people can used to ask for help. This bill seems to be a solution in search of a problem.
- ChicagoBars - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:11 am:
Doesn’t 815 ILCS 365 already kind of do what Rep Lilly told the reporter her bill’s ultimate goal is anyway?
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2338&ChapterID=67
- BigLou - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:13 am:
She thinks this is a way to create jobs in poor neighborhoods but the added expense would close businesses down meaning less jobs in those areas.
- Ron Burgundy - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:18 am:
Sorry, Rep. Lilly, for everyone misunderstanding your intentions by reading what your bill says. This is a solution in search of a problem and will never see committee.
- CookR - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:18 am:
How many lobbyists are calling the Illinois Gas Station Operators Association (or whatever it is) today?
- Exit 59 - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:22 am:
At the Paul Simon Institute last night, I heard Rep Terri Bryant explain when the question about this bill was asked… Ya know as Rich Miller posts on his Capitol Fax blog sometimes…it’s just a bill…
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:25 am:
===Ya know as Rich Miller posts on===
Heh.
It’s one of the reasons I created this particular blog post concept. Reporters, particularly those who don’t usually cover the Statehouse, tend to have a field day with newly introduced bills that are going nowhere.
- Downstate - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:27 am:
Two weeks ago, two franchise operations were closed for a 4 hour period because they couldn’t get enough workers. I’m seeing signs for $11.50 and $13/hour around at least one community. A bill like this would only exacerbate the problem. We could require valet parking at all hotels and motels, as well. That would serve the needs of the elderly, too.
- RNUG - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:28 am:
Yo hold up the profit margins, make it mandatory to play the slots inside the gas station while waiting for the gas to be pumped. Or you have to but a super-sized soda. If you do, the gas is pumped free … otherwise there is a surcharge.
- City Zen - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:31 am:
==unless it is plugged in by a certified electrician employed at the gas station==
McCormick’s Law.
- Will Caskey - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:31 am:
This has been introduced by Democrats in other states; I think it was actually enacted once or twice.
It’s a great low key economic stimulus that employs more people to pump gas, at the cost of making gas more expensive, which it should be anyway. An excellent example of a small technocratic change that can vastly improve economic well-being.
- Perrid - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:32 am:
Senator Manar’s bill is for more than just cancer treatments, which isn’t clear (or at least emphasized) in the article :
“Defines “approved clinical trial” to mean a phase I, II, III, or IV clinical trial involving the prevention, detection, or treatment of cancer or any other life-threatening disease or condition.”
- 8657 - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:33 am:
This is a Local 881 UFCW initiative. You can expect additional legislation from them along these lines. For instance, they plan on introducing legislation banning self-checkout lanes at retail.
- Lefty Lefty - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:39 am:
My socialism disease can’t find anything wrong with Rep. Ugaste’s bills. It’s funny he had to slam the task force though.
- FormerParatrooper - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:41 am:
Oregon also has pump attendant’s as well as New Jersey as mentioned by others. As far as I have seen these are the only two States that do this. Never feel comfortable with handing my credit card over and giving my billing zip code to them.
- City Zen - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:44 am:
And you want to be my Fair Tax salesman.
- qualified someone nobody sent - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:53 am:
Impossible to consolidate High School and Elementary School districts due to teachers pay differences and educational requirements for each. However, consolidating High School districts together into one and consolidating their “feeder” elementary districts into another one district. This over time would eliminate non-teacher jobs and save taxpayer money.
- @misterjayem - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:55 am:
“Is the gas pumping bill just a shell bill, to be used later in the session for another purpose?”
But for now, it’s a Shell bill.
– MrJM
- Da Big Bad Wolf - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:56 am:
==McCormick’s Law.==
Not since 1980. Were’ve ya been?
- Huh? - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 10:57 am:
The law should be amended so the Amish can’t park their horse and buggy unless the reins held by a certified horse holder at each place of business. The certified horse holder must also be certified in the sanitary disposal of a horse’s bodily discharges.
- NoGifts - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:04 am:
Can we ban self-checkout too? LOL
- Former State Worker - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:06 am:
Oregon did away with this law a couple of years ago. I believe New Jersey is the only state with a law like this.
There’s almost no chance a bill like this would pass, however.
- Skeptic - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:20 am:
“But for now, it’s a Shell bill.” Will you be here all week? (Asking for a friend.) I’ll be sure to tip my server well though.
- VerySmallRocks - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:25 am:
Local government consolidation is a necessary and worthy step in the slog to reduce burdens and costs. The inherent challenge in this is slog is that most concerned voters tend to want the other guys/gals’ governments to consolidate, and leave their perfect little single school district or remnant road commission alone. Parochialism and rampant individualism at its best.
- FormerParatrooper - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:27 am:
Former State Worker, I was in Portland and Salem a few weeks ago in January , they still have it.
- Levois J - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:28 am:
Well back to the olden days when we had full service gas stations, not self serve.
- JoanP - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:33 am:
I’m old. I remember when gas station attendants not only pumped the gas, but washed the windshield, checked your oil, and even put air in your tires if you wanted.
I remember S&H Green Stamps, too.
- Huh? - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:38 am:
JoanP - will do one better. When I was a kid, the local Shell station kept a box of Shell credit cards that the regulars left with the station. We would drive up, get the full service, then drive off. The owners were trusted enough to sign the credit card slips for the regular customers.
- Sue - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:38 am:
Here is a suggestion to Rep Lilly - move to Atlanta and stay there. How in God’s name do such nitwits get elected to represent us
- historic66 - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:45 am:
===Impossible to consolidate High School and Elementary School districts due to teachers pay differences and educational requirements for each. However, consolidating High School districts together into one and consolidating their “feeder” elementary districts into another one district. This over time would eliminate non-teacher jobs and save taxpayer money.===
How do you explain the hundreds of unit districts in Illinois? High school and elementary teachers certainly can be on the same pay scale.
- George - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 11:47 am:
Never say never. Last year the House passed an initiative by environmental groups that banned businesses from using recycled paper. Thankfully the Senate fixed it.
- anon. - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 12:09 pm:
Should require attendants at the McDonald ordering kiosk too.
Will this bring campaign donations from effected business groups?
- Streamwood Retiree - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 12:36 pm:
JoanP, I was that high school kid washing your windsheild, checking your oil and also trans fluid. You’d be surprised how many automatic transmissions were low!
re credit cars. In the ’80s I hated running my window down to hand over my card in Chicago winters, Brrrr. Now I have to get out of the car and play twenty questions with the pump (and ADs at Shell) before the gas will flow.
- Responsa - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 12:38 pm:
I hope Rep. Lilly will be invited to Chicago Tonight to discuss her bill.
- Responsa - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 12:43 pm:
My grandparents had a whole set of everyday dishes they got a piece at a time as premiums during the days of the windshield wash/oil check/attendant- pumped gas stations.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 12:47 pm:
===play twenty questions with the pump (and ADs at Shell)===
I filled up at Shell the other day and was appalled at all the unnecessary buttons I had to push… in the cold and the wind. Ridic.
- FormerParatrooper - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 12:50 pm:
==play twenty questions with the pump (and ADs at Shell)===
That’s why I don’t go to Shell anymore.
- Anyone Remember - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 1:18 pm:
==How in God’s name do such nitwits get elected to represent us ==
This isn’t the USSR, there is nothing to keep you from moving into her district and running / working to defeat her.
- the Patriot - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 1:27 pm:
School consolidation needs to happen and there is not a current legal vehicle to get it done. This makes sense, especially when you live in a school with multiple feeder schools into one high school.
While it will anger eveyrone living within 100 miles of where live, they should probably require counties of less than 20 or 25000 residents consolidate into county wide schools.
- foster brooks - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 2:06 pm:
RE:How in God’s name do such nitwits get elected to represent us …Oak park wants the Eisenhower expressway underground too
- Downstate - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 2:44 pm:
Some other ideas for Rep. Lilly:
1. Promote more news carriers - require all IPADS to self-destruct every 24 hours, with a new one delivered every morning….or evening.
2. Ban self-service car washes.
3. Eliminate stop lights (and red light cameras) and place traffic attendants at every intersection.
4. Outlaw ATMS. Cash can and should only be distributed by humans.
5. Ban self-check in kiosks at the airport.
6. Require all elevators to be operated by an attendant.
- Donnie Elgin - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 3:25 pm:
“Oak park wants the Eisenhower expressway underground too”
Wow a “Cap the Ike Working Group (CIWG)” reference. Great work foster brooks.
- Louis G Atsaves - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 3:43 pm:
@Downstate, you forgot home delivery of milk.
- Downstate - Tuesday, Feb 11, 20 @ 3:54 pm:
“@Downstate, you forgot home delivery of milk.”
Great point.
And iceboxes. Ban refrigerators and reinstate the ice man.
- Pablo john - Friday, Feb 14, 20 @ 2:37 am:
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