No Yeah = Yes Yeah no = No Yeah no for sure = Definitely No yeah no = Oh no, you’re fine Yeah no yeah = I’m sorry, but unfortunately, the answer is yes
— Random Small Midwest Towns (@MidwestTowns) March 4, 2021
Keep it Illinois-centric and polite in comments, please. Thanks.
These losses are an example of a team that wins a Gov race with more money than they could ever need against a GOP opponent who had basically given up in a blue state and then that team thinks they are geniuses. There are a few top staffers who are just rude ironically in an office that says they don’t want any jerks working there. And like many Gov/Mayor offices, they are suffering from group think. They need some new people in the team. And a couple need to find the exit. JB is a genuinely good person in my opinion. Hopefully he gets a better team.
–Here in Illinois we go from “youse guys” up north to “all y’all” down south–
And then ask what they call a carbonated non-alcoholic beverage. “Soda”, “Pop”, “Soda pop” or “Sodie”
- Essential State Employee - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:48 am:
Great interview and reflections of Senator Durbin by Dave Blanchette in today’s Illinois Times:
Bruce Rauner donating $250k to Ron DeSantis after his gated Florida Keys community was given exclusive access for the vaccine in January is a hilarious story. Gotta think this will come back to bite DeSantis should he run for President in 2024.
I saw that ‘yeah, no’ dictionary a couple weeks ago with the introduction of Bell’s Brewery’s No, Yeah Golden Ale. I don’t know if it is any good, but the name makes me want to try it.
And how about driving directions like, “Well you take the blacktop 2 miles,turn left and then take the hardroad into town.”
- thisjustinagain - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:24 am:
(paraphrasing a ‘Blazing Saddles’ scene): “…Not only was that post a fine example of authentic Illinois gibberish…” I mean, maybe yes, maybe no, maybe. WHAT?? Spechen Sie Englisch. Or something.
As to Fan’s comments about JB and staff, for all the money JB brought with him, you’d think he’d hire some better staff. Not just Deputy Governors, but the lower-level staff that do most of the work. Maybe they’re overworked and just burned out already; it’s been a terrible time to be working for the Governor of a broke state. The state of JB’s staff has led to some tremendous gaffes and failures.
@simple simon, we must be from the same part of Illinois, because everything was a “coke” where I’m from. Although I did hear “sody” from a number of people too.
Terry O’Brien, former Commissioner and President of the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago, has passed away. He had been battling cancer.
===“midwest” language? Here in Illinois we go from “youse guys” up north to “all y’all” down south ===
While very accurate, I do not believe this adequately describes the extent to which we can find linguistic traits associated with Appalachia in Southern Illinois.
I am not a native “y’all” user, but after studying several different languages I was convinced of it’s appropriateness for use for making the purpose of the language clear. Knowing about “Y’all” will not adequately prepare someone for what they can find in the Southern 20.
–In Illinois I would go as far to say that either I-74 … -
Having grown up about a half-mile from I-74, I would go as far as to say that’s why I use “soda” and “pop” interchangeably and even recall “soda pop” being perfectly okey-dokey.
By the way @midwestern_ope (Midwest vs Everybody) is very good on Midwest parlance and mores.
The Soda/Pop dividing line on that map between Sangamon and Macon County is surprisingly accurate. Although I don’t really agree with the pop designation South and East of there. Decatur seems like a Pop island in Soda heavy Central Illinois.
- Essential State Employee - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 10:23 am:
=The Soda/Pop dividing line on that map between Sangamon and Macon County is surprisingly accurate. Although I don’t really agree with the pop designation South and East of there. Decatur seems like a Pop island in Soda heavy Central Illinois.=\
And growing up in that area, I disagree with the Huffington Post’s inclusion of Peoria County as a “soda” county (Plus extending it up to Stark and Bureau).
Unless in the city of Peoria “soda” is more common but you hear “pop” in rural Peoria County. I grew up near there and with family in rural Peoria County and all I heard there was “pop.”
I grew up in central IL (Mattoon). I to this day refer to soda pop. When I went to college in Chicago I referred to that meal eaten in the evening as supper. Between my ESL friends (one Korean, one Mexican), we were never really sure which meal we were on our way to consume. One of them always confused breakfast and lunch and the other seemed to have a random meal description generator meanwhile I would insist on dinner at noon and supper at 6. Regardless of the meal the food was seldom good. (school cafeteria)But the companionship more than made up for it.
Sticking with Midwest language (possibly Chicago dialect) I have two contributions.
Fronch room - an unused room of the house that has furniture covered in clear vinyl.
Ruf - the top of the house where Frisbees (and the occasional ball) get stuck.
- Original Rambler - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 12:15 pm:
That’s my spouse!
Glad to hear that about Coca Cola (like Warren Buffett I have a soft spot for Cherry Coke) but I tend to buy RC when I can. I do that even though I do not believe there is a connection to Chicago anymore.
===Gov’s staff has fumbled repeatedly. Inexperience.===
This isn’t a fair criticism because it’s not an issue of inexperienced people being involved. It’s more likely to be a case of recognizing the dichotomy between running and winning political campaigns and administrating a state government combined with the dichotomy between running a private sector business (of any size) and administrating a state government.
I can be hard to adjust to the idea that not everyone who works for the state or works in senior management at an agency is on the same team, or even is a team player.
- Sayitaintso - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 3:55 am:
Each of the above deserve “Yeah No…What?”
- Ok - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 6:38 am:
Yeah, no, like, for real, yea
- Ok - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 6:39 am:
= you may not believe me, but yes
- Blue Dog - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 6:40 am:
Uh-huh=yes
- Blue Dog - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 6:41 am:
Say What = No
- Is it 2022 yet - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 6:48 am:
Uh … I think “Yeah no for sure” means “definitely NOT.”
- Frumpy White Guy - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 7:07 am:
What part of no don’t you understand?
- danray - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 7:09 am:
Like, ok, not a chance.
- Fan - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 7:15 am:
These losses are an example of a team that wins a Gov race with more money than they could ever need against a GOP opponent who had basically given up in a blue state and then that team thinks they are geniuses. There are a few top staffers who are just rude ironically in an office that says they don’t want any jerks working there. And like many Gov/Mayor offices, they are suffering from group think. They need some new people in the team. And a couple need to find the exit. JB is a genuinely good person in my opinion. Hopefully he gets a better team.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:01 am:
Happy birthday, Chicago.
- Dysfunction Junction - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:12 am:
“Midwest language” covers a lot of territory, and includes stuff like “Uffda” (wow), “Eh?” (wouldn’t you agree) and “Ope” (whoops).
Though I think all midwesterners agree that sweetened carbonated beverages are “pop”. (I’ll see myself out now.)
- 47th Ward - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:33 am:
Happy birthday Chicago. You look good for 188.
- obiter dictum - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:36 am:
“midwest” language? Here in Illinois we go from “youse guys” up north to “all y’all” down south
- Jockey - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:39 am:
When I was a Chicagoan living in Springfield, I never understood “Catty Corner”. It was “Kitty Corner” to me. Such is life.
- Skeptic - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:47 am:
–Here in Illinois we go from “youse guys” up north to “all y’all” down south–
And then ask what they call a carbonated non-alcoholic beverage. “Soda”, “Pop”, “Soda pop” or “Sodie”
- Essential State Employee - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:48 am:
Great interview and reflections of Senator Durbin by Dave Blanchette in today’s Illinois Times:
https://www.illinoistimes.com/springfield/springfields-man-on-capitol-hill/Content?oid=13263247
- Essential State Employee - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:51 am:
=And then ask what they call a carbonated non-alcoholic beverage. “Soda”, “Pop”, “Soda pop” or “Sodie”=
Huffington Post had a great article, with a nationwide county map (although I beg to differ on some counties’ results) on the Pop vs. Soda debate:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/soda-vs-pop_n_2103764
In Illinois I would go as far to say that either I-74 or US-136 represents the Pop vs. Soda line of demarcation.
- Lori's Fedora - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:55 am:
What’s about that is we can all probably imagine the gestures that accompany each phrase.
- Simple Simon - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 8:57 am:
In my part of Illinois, a soda was a “Coke” no matter what was in the bottle.
- Ummm, yeah... - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:02 am:
Many of us die hards are thanking our lucky heavens that it wasn’t karen yarbrough.
- Hot Taeks - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:04 am:
Bruce Rauner donating $250k to Ron DeSantis after his gated Florida Keys community was given exclusive access for the vaccine in January is a hilarious story. Gotta think this will come back to bite DeSantis should he run for President in 2024.
- Nearly Normal - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:04 am:
Not so fast with the birthday wishes for Chicago–
https://www.chicagotribune.com/history/ct-met-chicago-birthday-1833-not-1837-20190304-story.html
- Montrose - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:16 am:
I saw that ‘yeah, no’ dictionary a couple weeks ago with the introduction of Bell’s Brewery’s No, Yeah Golden Ale. I don’t know if it is any good, but the name makes me want to try it.
https://www.bellsbeer.com/news/just-really-nice-beer-no-yeah-latest-bell-s-year-round-release
- rabble - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:20 am:
And how about driving directions like, “Well you take the blacktop 2 miles,turn left and then take the hardroad into town.”
- thisjustinagain - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:24 am:
(paraphrasing a ‘Blazing Saddles’ scene): “…Not only was that post a fine example of authentic Illinois gibberish…”
I mean, maybe yes, maybe no, maybe. WHAT?? Spechen Sie Englisch. Or something.
As to Fan’s comments about JB and staff, for all the money JB brought with him, you’d think he’d hire some better staff. Not just Deputy Governors, but the lower-level staff that do most of the work. Maybe they’re overworked and just burned out already; it’s been a terrible time to be working for the Governor of a broke state. The state of JB’s staff has led to some tremendous gaffes and failures.
- Rudy’s teeth - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:30 am:
“We don’t want nobody nobody sent.”
Milton Rakove
- Frumpy White Guy - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:31 am:
Since the topic of cola was brought up, please purchase Coca Cola products. Very good corporation with a heart for change.
- Steve Rogers - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:33 am:
@simple simon, we must be from the same part of Illinois, because everything was a “coke” where I’m from. Although I did hear “sody” from a number of people too.
- Dog Lover - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:35 am:
Yep. Nope.
- Practical Politics - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 9:54 am:
Terry O’Brien, former Commissioner and President of the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago, has passed away. He had been battling cancer.
- Anonamouse - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 10:04 am:
No worries = I recognize that you did/said something silly that may bother most people, but not me, I don’t care.
- Candy Dogood - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 10:04 am:
===“midwest” language? Here in Illinois we go from “youse guys” up north to “all y’all” down south ===
While very accurate, I do not believe this adequately describes the extent to which we can find linguistic traits associated with Appalachia in Southern Illinois.
I am not a native “y’all” user, but after studying several different languages I was convinced of it’s appropriateness for use for making the purpose of the language clear. Knowing about “Y’all” will not adequately prepare someone for what they can find in the Southern 20.
- dbk - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 10:09 am:
–In Illinois I would go as far to say that either I-74 … -
Having grown up about a half-mile from I-74, I would go as far as to say that’s why I use “soda” and “pop” interchangeably and even recall “soda pop” being perfectly okey-dokey.
By the way @midwestern_ope (Midwest vs Everybody) is very good on Midwest parlance and mores.
- fs - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 10:18 am:
The Soda/Pop dividing line on that map between Sangamon and Macon County is surprisingly accurate. Although I don’t really agree with the pop designation South and East of there. Decatur seems like a Pop island in Soda heavy Central Illinois.
- Essential State Employee - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 10:23 am:
=The Soda/Pop dividing line on that map between Sangamon and Macon County is surprisingly accurate. Although I don’t really agree with the pop designation South and East of there. Decatur seems like a Pop island in Soda heavy Central Illinois.=\
And growing up in that area, I disagree with the Huffington Post’s inclusion of Peoria County as a “soda” county (Plus extending it up to Stark and Bureau).
Unless in the city of Peoria “soda” is more common but you hear “pop” in rural Peoria County. I grew up near there and with family in rural Peoria County and all I heard there was “pop.”
- What he said. - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 10:27 am:
_thisjustinagain-
Right on the nose. Gov’s staff has fumbled repeatedly. Inexperience.
Does Chief of Staff Caprara have anything to do with this?
- cermak_rd - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 10:45 am:
I grew up in central IL (Mattoon). I to this day refer to soda pop. When I went to college in Chicago I referred to that meal eaten in the evening as supper. Between my ESL friends (one Korean, one Mexican), we were never really sure which meal we were on our way to consume. One of them always confused breakfast and lunch and the other seemed to have a random meal description generator meanwhile I would insist on dinner at noon and supper at 6. Regardless of the meal the food was seldom good. (school cafeteria)But the companionship more than made up for it.
- Jocko - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 10:50 am:
Sticking with Midwest language (possibly Chicago dialect) I have two contributions.
Fronch room - an unused room of the house that has furniture covered in clear vinyl.
Ruf - the top of the house where Frisbees (and the occasional ball) get stuck.
- Original Rambler - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 12:15 pm:
That’s my spouse!
Glad to hear that about Coca Cola (like Warren Buffett I have a soft spot for Cherry Coke) but I tend to buy RC when I can. I do that even though I do not believe there is a connection to Chicago anymore.
- thoughts matter - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 2:31 pm:
No just no.
But yes soda or Coke. Regardless of the actual carbonated beverage.
- Candy Dogood - Thursday, Mar 4, 21 @ 3:02 pm:
===Gov’s staff has fumbled repeatedly. Inexperience.===
This isn’t a fair criticism because it’s not an issue of inexperienced people being involved. It’s more likely to be a case of recognizing the dichotomy between running and winning political campaigns and administrating a state government combined with the dichotomy between running a private sector business (of any size) and administrating a state government.
I can be hard to adjust to the idea that not everyone who works for the state or works in senior management at an agency is on the same team, or even is a team player.