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* As you’ll recall, Channel 5’s Mary Ann Ahern asked Bruce Rauner about the NFL domestic violence scandals yesterday. Last night, she reported this…

The Rauner team was not happy with today’s questions on the NFL and said we should have submitted them ahead of time.

The Rauner campaign flat-out denies anybody told her that. Ahern firmly stood by her story this morning. She also denied, and deemed it personally insulting, that anyone would claim her NFL questions were planted by the Quinnsters.

* The first-time candidate might be dismayed at the way he’s being treated by the city’s media, but it’s merely his turn in the barrel. The governor has served his time in said barrel quite often and will be back in there very soon.

And it’s only gonna get worse. Much worse.

* And while the governor’s campaign talked to me about the NFL abuse issue and Rauner’s Steelers ownership two nights ago, Chicago reporters can always smell a good local angle on a hot national story, and the NFL abuse scandal is the hottest thing going right now. Rauner, as a part-owner of an NFL team, gave them the perfect local angle. Craig Dellimore…

Republican candidate Bruce Rauner called a news conference to talk about ethics but as a partial owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers, he was asked what he thought of the way the NFL handled recent domestic violence incidents including former Baltimore Raven Ray Rice knocking out his then fiancé. He sidestepped.

Why Rauner wasn’t prepared to answer that question is just beyond me. He could’ve turned it into a huge positive. Instead, he whiffed.

posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:14 am

Comments

He whiffed, true.

But why is the “watchdog media” quizzing candidates on these issues which border on irrelevant to governing one of the nation’s largest states?

Is our state’s condition so bad that everyone wants to avoid talking about substantive problems?

John

Comment by John Boch Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:17 am
It must be so hard for a guy who has succeeded at everything in life to fail to win constant favorable press from the Chicago reporters. Has Bruce tried stomping his feet when he says no?

Comment by Anon Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:18 am
“…and said we should have submitted them ahead of time.” Sorry, guys. This ain’t the Kremlin. Not yet, anyway.

Comment by Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:20 am
=But why is the “watchdog media” quizzing candidates on these issues which border on irrelevant to governing one of the nation’s largest states?=

Um, I beg to differ. Domestic violence is a huge issue and should not be swept under the rug. Mr. Rauner is a part-owner of an NFL franchise. It is not “irrelevant” to suggest he should have a position let alone an opinion.

Comment by Knome Sane Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:21 am
Rauner just choked. He’s not good off-script.

That’s not his staff’s fault. But complaining to Ahern is, and that was really stupid.

Seriously, your guy needs questions in advance? Why are you telling TV reporters that your guy is a lightweight? You didn’t think that would get on the air? That’s a big bowl of bad.

TV reporters, always, always, hunt the local angle on a national story. That’s how you get on the air.

Comment by wordslinger Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:22 am
And, John Boch, isn’t it the role of the media to be “watchdogs”?

Comment by Knome Sane Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:22 am
===everyone wants to avoid talking about substantive problems?===

As long as you believe that domestic violence is not a substantive problem, I suppose you’re right. I wouldn’t run for office on that platform, however.

Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:23 am
Good work by Ahern.

Someone also needs to ask Rauner simple question, do you think the Commissioner should resign?

Comment by too obvious Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:23 am
@too obvious: That would require Rauner to say what he actually believes about a subject of great public interest. He’s not going to do that.

Comment by Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:25 am
@John Boch

When a candidate has ads about his trash can van and being pro-choice, is he talking about substance? Give me a brake.

Comment by Ducky LaMoore Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:25 am
John Boch, if the endorsement of an NFL figure like Mike Ditka is relevant to the governors race, then surely Rauners opinion on the NFL team he owns when he is running based on his business leadership is relevant to the governors race.

Comment by hisgirlfriday Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:27 am
It was an odd choice to focus on at the expense of so many other issues, but it sells papers and draws viewers.

In Mrs. Ahern’s defense, I do not think she took the question from the Quinnsters. She likely took it from a comment on this blog the day before by “too obvious” https://capitolfax.com/2014/09/16/rauner-blasts-medical-marijuana-law/#comment-11615848

Comment by Formerly Known As... Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:28 am
He wiffed bad, he had a perfect opportunity to give a sound bite that could resonate with woman voters on the fence. Oh well, you snooze you lose, Quinn talked about it yesterday, although attacky, he still addressed it. Someone needs to wake Rauner up.

Comment by Goonhammer Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:29 am
Benjamin Morris has an unusual column in Five Thirty Eight where he statistically breaks down arrests by frequency and type, and compares the NFL to the general populace. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-rate-of-domestic-violence-arrests-among-nfl-players/

Comment by Toure's Latte Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:29 am
agree that rauner is real weak off script. cant always get by with promising a detailed plan later.

this was not a difficult issue to grasp. even if he owned no NFL team stock, he should have been able to give a sympathetic, supportive, understanding answer.

Comment by Langhorne Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:30 am
It boils down to Rauner not being able to think on his feet, and see the political positives of answering questions.

Rauner has been drilled from Jump Street; Don’t say anything. Stay on message. Your responses will come back to haunt you.

There is a feel that anything, I mean anything, Bruce says is going to be seen negative, unless it is vetted to the talking points, no, the vetted talking points, continuing a narrative.

Running for political office, you need the skill set to “listen, react, respond, own”

Rauner wasn’t listening to the softball question. Easy peasy. Rauner gave reaction that was about “focus”, his focus, with a response the programming by his Crew would normally like to evade direct answers, but How can you own it, being a father and a husband?

Rauner may be great at retail politics, but understanding the media, how to handle them (barring students, really?) and also giving them “something” and also accepting softball questions is an art, a skill, a science, that Rauner is failing.

Speaks volumes to the image of an empty suit, unable to formulate a position on child abuse or spousal battery.

Empty suits, driven by talking points… they don’t have a position on child abuse or spousal battery on their feet, they can’t see the real beyond the phony.

Of course Rauner doesn’t approve of either. Of course, as a father and husband Rauner is sickened.

Candidate, GOP Nominee, programmed Bruce Rauner forgot that. It’s a rookie mistake, brought on by a Crew to transfixed on control and image.

The Rauner Crew has to own this too. 1) Rauner owns part if an NFL teams! 2) It’s in the news. 3) Governor of Minnesota weighed in.

Bad form on the 1st response, poor staff work, “Speaking for…” full response was bush league.

Get. It. Together.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:31 am
Bottom line is he blew it and a weakness has been exposed. His staff needs to grow up, like 6 months ago, and realize nothing is off the table right now.

Comment by JS Mill Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:31 am
Unless, of course, “too obvious” works for Mr. Quinn and his campaign team. In which case, then she did indirectly ask a question planted by them. The comment by “too obvious” laid it out perfectly.

== I know it’s off point, but many have probably forgotten that Bruce Rauner is an owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He has a minority interest to be sure, but he’s still an owner, and there aren’t that many.

Surely some reporter should as him where he stands on this latest NFL scandal and whether he thinks the commissioner should resign. If I’m not mistaken I believe the Steelers had some similar type problem with their QB. Rauner’s good with all this? Maybe so given some of his associations with the old body guard and Ditka with the “hit ‘em in the mouth” comment. ==

Comment by Formerly Known As... Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:31 am
===As long as you believe that domestic violence is not a substantive problem, I suppose you’re right. I wouldn’t run for office on that platform, however.===

I don’t know if your are fully recovered yet Rich but your wit is definitely back at 100% and firing on all cylinders!

People coming from industry who feel like their lives has been pretty public generally get a huge wake-up call when entering politics. I think all of us in IL have front row seats to a new showing of this long running play and it looks like it is going to be a very entertaining show.

Comment by former southerner Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:33 am
He whiffed? C’mon Rich, Sox season is long over. He punted.

Comment by Jose Abreu's next homer Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:34 am
Also, an Illinois governors opinion on the NFL has added relevance when the only Illinois NFL team plays at a stadium owned by Chicago taxpayers and which had a renovation financed by Illinois taxpayers that only went through after an Illinois governor signed the bill approving it.

Comment by hisgirlfriday Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:35 am
He choked.

Of course what the Gov of Illinois has to do w/ NFL and its current PR nightmare is also interesting… NOT.

Comment by RonOglesby - Now in TX Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:35 am
“The Rauner team was not happy with today’s questions *** and said we should have submitted them ahead of time.”

That would be laughable if Rauner were running for freshman class president.

– MrJM

Comment by MrJM Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:37 am
Whiff. That’s it. Learn. Move on. Someone tees it up for you…grab Big Bertha and whack it. He didn’t. Opportunity missed.

Comment by A guy... Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:38 am
Its very relevant. The C-H-I-C-A-G-O Bears are a football team that plays in Chicago, Illinois. Bruce is running for Governor of the STATE of Illinois. A Bears player is involved (at least tangentially) in this mess. The Chicago Bears have issued a statement saying they support the NFL.

Bruce is NOT running to be Governor to break up “public sector unions” and turn pensions into 401K’s. Presumably he is interested in Public Service and wants to Govern all of the People of Illinois.

If Bruce cant stand the heat, then go back to being a “home day trader”.

Comment by Del Clinkton Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:44 am
This wasn’t a whiff. You can’t whiff if you don’t swing. He thought she was throwing a fastball and instead she sat a tennis ball on the tee. He chose to take a walk instead of hitting it out of the park. As a result he gave Quinn a backwards K without even suiting up.
I think his honest answer would have been: “hey, we’re in touch with Silver and the NBA about how much they suffered from the Sterling/Clippers rascism fiasco so we can ensure the NFL doesn’t take that big of a hit.” He thought better of it and went with no comment.
The sad thing is it never occurred to him to just say “I cant speak for the Steelers orginazation or the NFL but I can speak As a husband and father….”

Comment by Casual observer Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:49 am
Bruce should stay in the private sector…he excels there…it is beyond me why he thinks he can jump into politics at this point in his life and simply transfer his success in that realm to politics…people have spent decades getting to know the drill in politics and it is something that a checkbook simply cant buy you…he’s either arrogant, ignorant, or both…

Comment by Loop Lady Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:50 am
“The Rauner team was not happy with today’s questions on the NFL and said we should have submitted them ahead of time.”

This is the guy who says he’s gonna beat Mike Madigan ? He can’t even handle Mary Ann Ahern.

Comment by AFSCME Steward Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:54 am
Yep. Very easy question to answer. I am not a politician and I could have crafted a good impromptu answer to that.

Comment by Peoria guy Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:55 am
=== * And while the governor’s campaign talked to me about the NFL abuse issue and Rauner’s Steelers ownership two nights ago, Chicago reporters can always smell a good local angle on a hot national story, and the NFL abuse scandal is the hottest thing going right now. ===

The above tells me that there was a staff fail here. As has been repeatedly and accurately pointed out by commenters Raunervich needs a script. After the conversation referenced above, they should have crafted a script dealing with it.

Comment by Norseman Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:55 am
@Ron Oglesby: I think it IS interesting, since said governor candidate is a part owner of an NFL team…If he can’t handle a simple question about this, how will he be able to handle a question about something pertinent to actual state government, say natural disasters, etc?

Comment by downstate commissioner Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:00 pm
Team Rauner is giving Team Quinn an awful lot of credit.

The Chicago Tribune editorialized on Tuesday against the NFL.

Mary Mitchell wrote a critical piece on Monday.

And perhaps most relevant, Ahern tweeted the story at 10:30 am yesterday.

I guess if it wasn’t in their poll, they don’t want to talk about it.

Welcome to campaigns, but more importantly, welcome to governing.

You may say you don’t have a social agenda, but social agendas tend to get thrust on governors.

George Ryan probably didn’t think he’d be dealing with the death penalty when he ran in 1998, I am sure.

Comment by Yellow Dog Democrat Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:03 pm
What Rauner lacks is empathy. He doesn’t listen with his heart at all, and I’m beginning to have serious questions about his ability to think things through. He certainly has not displayed a quick wit.

But it’s the empathy thing that got him this time. Domestic violence and child abuse are horrible things. All he had to do was drop a few cliches, even, about that. But all he reacted to, I suspect, was HIS ownership in the Steelers and what that meant. He didn’t hear the deeper question as it DID apply to Illinois - You’ve never talked about this issue, it’s in the news, waddya got to say?”

Comment by PolPal56 Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:07 pm
He could have handled it better no doubt. But really the guy is a minority owner who has squat to say.
I agree with Rich the governor has been in that barrel and will be back in it soon enough.
However let’s keep the questions about issues concerning us as a state now

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:07 pm
He gave the answer you may expect from a venture capitalist….calculate and deliver a response based on a personal financial impact. He focused his response based on his percent of ownership interest and didn’t even think about other social, moral and ethical implications important to all those voters he is supposed to be so connected to. Bruce at his best…think about “self interest” above all else. Yeah, being wealthy doesn’t mean your disconnected from you constituency….until you prove it so.

Comment by Johnnie F. Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:08 pm
YDD: “George Ryan probably didn’t think he’d be dealing with the death penalty when he ran in 1998, I am sure.”

Not true. He was always against the death penalty but wasn’t sure how to handle it politically.

Comment by Casual observer Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:09 pm
And his smug answer just convinced this woman to vote for Quinn.

Comment by Penelopy Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:12 pm
Once again, a missed opportunity.

Rauner ran a good campaign in the primary and I keep hearing he’s a wonderful one on one campaigner.

But the campaign is not preparing him and overall the performance has been terrible.

Rauner can still win, but he’s got to clean house. His campaign manager must go.

Comment by Gooner Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:12 pm
To Anonymous - Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:07 pm

PolPal56 nails it: “What Rauner lacks is empathy.”

Period. Full stop.

Comment by Bill White Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:12 pm
The handling of Rauner by his people is a bit Romney-esque. Probably not a good thing but perhaps necessary if you can’t talk off-script. I suspect this episode will only turn up the heat tih the media.

Comment by pundent Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:14 pm
AFSCME Steward’s comment remains the best, however:

=== This is the guy who says he’s gonna beat Mike Madigan ? He can’t even handle Mary Ann Ahern. ===

Comment by Bill White Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:17 pm
Casual observer –
“YDD: “George Ryan probably didn’t think he’d be dealing with the death penalty when he ran in 1998, I am sure.”

“Not true. He was always against the death penalty but wasn’t sure how to handle it politically.”

I remember hearing GRyan speak about how he came to be an opponent of the death penalty. I think YDD’s statement is closer to what GRyan said in that speech.

Comment by VM Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:19 pm
Let’s not forget that it was ahern who tripped up blagojevich on the $1500 check from his friend for his daughters baptism. She’s just good at zingers that catch you off guard. Sheesh, that stumble became the ad that almost cost blago the election!

Comment by Anon Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:19 pm
I’m surprised he didn’t say, “in the near future we’ll come out with a plan to answer that question.”

Comment by Sir Reel Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:23 pm
==said we should have submitted them ahead of time==

Why? Rauner needs his people to “think” of the correct response, then respond on what he’s thinking?

Comment by Wensicia Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:29 pm
@Sir Reel, that response would have been far superior to the one that was given

Comment by Six Degrees of Separation Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:29 pm
Thanks VM and apologies to YDD. But that’s off topic. On topic, I think Rauner will always remember that pitch he didn’t swing at.

Comment by Casual observer Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:30 pm
I believe this whole thing is unfair. Rauner gave an appropriate response. This is just a very unseemly effort to associate him with a very ugly series of incidents in the NFL.

Comment by Meanderthal Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:39 pm
It goes beyond just recent events. Rauner’s own team’s quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was suspended for sexual assault in 2010.

Comment by Mittuns Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:41 pm
This together with his comments about charter schools and special education students not being HIS problem tell me more than I need to know about his view of my world.

Comment by Johnnie F. Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:48 pm
–Is our state’s condition so bad that everyone wants to avoid talking about substantive problems?–

That old saw. “You shouldn’t talk about Issue A because of Issue B.”

When someone trots that out, it usually means they just want to change the subject because the discussion is not going their way.

JB, I take it you find walking and chewing gum at the same time virtually impossible.

Guess what? Always lots of “substantive issues” out there that need to be addressed every single day, at home, at work, in the public square.

Who are these fictional characters that have the luxury of just focusing on the “The Big Issue,” as defined by you.

But it’s revealing, JB, that you don’t consider domestic violence a “substantive issue.”

Comment by wordslinger Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:52 pm
The Sun Times, WBEZ, Eric Zorn and many other media members and Democratic polticicians in this state openly associate with a longtime Chicago columnist who has a domestic battery conviction in his recent past. There was no outrage or loss of status for that person.
Now those same media are tripping on themselves trying throw this kind of mud at Rauner just because they ẽ think he flubbed an answer to a gotcha question. Very bizarro.

Comment by 3rd Generation Media Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:53 pm
No apology needed, and my point was on topic.

George Ryan read about the release of Anthony Porter from death row less than a month after taking office.

He didn’t need to consult with his staff or do a poll to be appalled.

Comment by Yellow Dog Democrat Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:56 pm
===Now those same media are tripping on themselves trying throw this kind of mud at Rauner just because they ẽ think he flubbed an answer to a gotcha question.===

“Think” he flubbed it?

When his Crew had to, um, clarify, what Bruce meant, because Bruce Rauner can’t clarify it himself, it’s not a “think”…Bruce Rauner flubbed it.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:59 pm
“–Is our state’s condition so bad that everyone wants to avoid talking about substantive problems?–”

Says every victim of domestic violence; never.

Comment by How Ironic Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 12:59 pm
Jocko thinks that Bruce thinks that the NFL should give this a serious think.

Comment by Jocko Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 1:05 pm
Funding cuts to Domestic Violence Shelters? Move along. Nothing to see here.

A father of four daughters who owns a percentage of a football team and has no control over the NFL’s disciplinary procedures or direct connection to Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, Greg Hardy or Jonathan Dwyer? Outrageous! This man is soft on domestic violence and not qualified to be Governor! Off with his head!

Both have warts, but this seems backwards somehow.

Comment by Formerly Known As... Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 1:26 pm
Word, I’m sure JB sees domestic violence as a problem.

And, as with every other problem out there in this great world we live in, his answer is: gun.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 1:28 pm
FKA, kudos for staying on message. I take it we can add shelters to the list of things Bruce is going to pay for with his magic beans?

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 1:32 pm
===A father of four daughters who owns a percentage of a football team and has no control over the NFL’s disciplinary procedures or direct connection to Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, Greg Hardy or Jonathan Dwyer? Outrageous! This man is soft on domestic violence and not qualified to be Governor! Off with his head!===

With respect,

A softball question that could have resulted in nice media exposure was “fumbled”

“As a father of four daughters who owns a percentage of a football team and has no control over the NFL’s disciplinary procedures I am outraged. I am sickened at the alleged child abuse, and the video of an adult man, striking a woman, knocking her unconscious, you don’t need to be a father, a husband, or even own part of an NFL Franchise to be outraged, as I am”

See.

It’s about someone standing at a podium and can’t be against domestic violence and child abuse when asked. That’s the rub.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 1:35 pm
Credibility is a precious thing, 3rd Generation Media, you shouldn’t squander it so casually.

“A longtime Chicago columnist who has a domestic battery conviction in his recent past.”

Nope. The domestic battery charges were dropped when prosecutors said the columnist had complied with a court-ordered alcohol treatment program.

“There was no outrage or loss of status for that person.”

Wrong again. Among other things, he was placed on leave from his job and removed from his paper’s editorial board.

If he were running for governor, that nine-year old incident would be relevant and the subject of much discussion.

But he’s not and it’s not.

– MrJM

Comment by MrJM Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 1:39 pm
One thing to keep in mind — he’s a minority owner, so he can talk without having to worry about action arising from it.

He can say things like “The leadership of this league needs to take a much stronger approach” and “we need to find out what Goodell knew and when he knew it” without worrying about it really impacting anything.

This wasn’t a “gottcha” question. He should have considered this to be a softball.

Comment by Gooner Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 1:42 pm
“YDD: “George Ryan probably didn’t think he’d be dealing with the death penalty when he ran in 1998, I am sure.”

CO:“Not true. He was always against the death penalty but wasn’t sure how to handle it politically.”

YDD:
“George Ryan read about the release of Anthony Porter from death row less than a month after taking office.

He didn’t need to consult with his staff or do a poll to be appalled.”

Bingo.

George was politically astute. He knew how to wait for an issue to come to him. And he had his response ready.

Bruce’s no comment shows he’s not a rookie but that he shouldn’t have made the cut in tryouts.

Comment by Casual observer Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 1:54 pm
- MrJM - Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 1:39 pm: -

Excellent response.

Comment by Wensicia Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 1:57 pm
Rauner didn’t whiff. He struck out looking at a meatball right down the center of home plate.

Comment by SAP Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 2:17 pm
==- John Boch - Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 11:17 am:==

Domestic violence isn’t an issue in Illinois? Child abuse isn’t an issue in Illinois? If these aren’t issues, your gun stuff certainly belonged on the back burner, if even a spot in the kitchen.

Comment by Precinct Captain Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 2:20 pm
A father of four daughters should do better than the nonsense he’s spinning.

Comment by Amalia Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 3:27 pm
== Anonymous 1:32 ==

Appreciate it, Anonymous. Mea culpa for finding that particularly disturbing and hypocritical over the past 48 hours.

As for Rauner’s magic beans paying for the domestic violence shelters? They should be able to cover opening a new one in every county with the way he has been promising things. Don’t forget that they have to pay for magic tax cuts as well.

Comment by Formerly Known As... Thursday, Sep 18, 14 @ 4:22 pm
Point of Information, re George Ryan and death penalty:

1973– Illinois reinstituted the death penalty, PA 78-921 (HB 18.) State Rep. George Ryan voted yes, 4/10/73. The Illinois Supreme Court ruled the law unconstitutional in 1975.

1977– Illinois enacts a new death penalty law, PA 80-26 (HB 10.) State Rep. George Ryan voted yes, 3/10/77.

Sources: Laws of Illinois, House Journals.

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