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* I caught a cold this week. I’m miserable and I got nothing for you. I mean nothing. So, I’m declaring an open thread and going to bed as soon as my Crain’s column is approved.

posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:27 pm

Comments

In the words of Todd, “Hang In There”.

Comment by Give Me A Break Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:29 pm
Hang in there Rich.

Comment by 47th Ward Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:30 pm
Yikes. The bar is Open!

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:30 pm
Here’s a question. How many of you are posting from an IL state office? I feel at least 2/3 of commentators are state employees or retirees… am I close?

Comment by Robert the 1st Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:31 pm
- Robert the 1st -

Bad form, bud. lol

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:32 pm
A nice dose of warm Oscar the Puppy will help as well. Feel better soon!

Comment by Archiesmom Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:32 pm
Take Care and have a Great All Hallows Eve:)

Comment by Anon221 Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:33 pm
Nice try Robert!

Comment by Anon221 Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:34 pm
So I’m hearing Donald Trump is one of the most popular Halloween costumes this year.

Comment by Stones Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:35 pm
Have a glass or 2 of red wine and let Oscar know you will be well soon. We all wish you a quick recovery, and thanks for your site.

Comment by illini Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:36 pm
OW- how many episodes of “Dad’s Home State” are in the contract with HBO?

Rich -please feel better soon.

Comment by Keyrock Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:36 pm
Rest up Rich. Hope you feel better soon.

Comment by DuPage Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:37 pm
What city is the most dysfunctional?

A. Springfield, Illinois
B. Washington, DC
C. Damascus, Syria

Comment by Abe the Babe Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:37 pm
Robert the 1st, have wondered the same thing myself tbh. For what it is worth Rich has from time to time called out folks who have government IP address who are obviously shilling for their boss.

Comment by OneMan Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:38 pm
Rich-take some Zinc and lots of Vitamin C. Hope you are feeling better real soon!

Comment by Union Leader Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:39 pm
- Keyrock -

Think we have 30-33 edited and ready to go.

The problem is there’s SO much there. Goldberg steals every scene he’s in, and if you figure out the hero in this, it takes it to a new level…

…

Feel better Rich.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:39 pm
Rich, I have had this cold for almost two weeks (not to throw cold water on your hopes for a quick recovery).

In the phrase of the day, “hang in there.”

Comment by Concerned Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:44 pm
Some good soup and lots of rest. Feel better!

Comment by Because I said so... Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:44 pm
I second what Illini said Rich. Have two glasses of wine. You’ll still have a cold, but you will no longer care that you have a cold.

Comment by PublicServant Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:47 pm
Just started following this blog and am impressed with all the words of wisdom. Really curious how this (budget impasse) ends. My guess is that Rauner at some point very loudly drops the most onerous anti-union stuff and calls it a “moral victory.” Tax hike occurs with a few Republican votes and a few cuts are made and no one is very happy. What do you all think?

Comment by First Time Caller Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:47 pm
OW, …” I’m declaring an open thread …” really doesn’t mean that, does it. “Bad form, bud. lol”.

Comment by Nick Danger Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:48 pm
lol

Comment by Nick Danger Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:48 pm
=== - Robert the 1st - Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:31 pm:

I feel at least 2/3 of commentators are state employees or retirees… am I close? ===

I’ll take the over.

Comment by Birdseed Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:50 pm
Rich, have chicken soup, tea, and lots of rest.
Sorry, no wine for now.

Comment by Enviro Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:50 pm
Plenty of liquids and a warm Oscar dog next to you. Hope you feel better. Oh and set the humidifier up. It’s starting to get dry with the heat on.

Comment by Honeybear Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:51 pm
Take care, Rich, stay warm, and get well soon.

For the rest of us, IDOT is hiring and they want us on their team:

https://twitter.com/IDOT_Illinois/status/659384491992068096

Comment by Cheswick Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:51 pm
Thought for the night:
To catch a cold, you’ve got to be faster than the cold.
So there’s that.

Comment by A guy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:52 pm
3 fingers of Southern Comfort. It will either cure or kill, but you won’t care.

Comment by Retired Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:52 pm
Another vote for chicken soup, and tea with honey and lemon.

But, of course, you should be sleeping, not reading this thread!

Comment by JoanP Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:52 pm
Rich, drink a hot Toddy. It will make ya feel better.

Comment by Mama Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:54 pm
Zycam. Works great for me

Comment by Eddy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:54 pm
Med Mar. It will either cause you to sleep through it, or you won’t even know you have one; and yet you can still feel bad for the guy in the mirror. Magical.

Comment by A guy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:56 pm
Initially, I hope you feel better. My daughter is sick too. There must be something going around the midwest.

And now on the meat of the post — Amalia and others, this is the nearest we are going to get to a football open thread, so go to it.

Arsenal top of the table on points? Never would have predicted it after the first week defeat. Chelsea down in 15th and fighting relegation? A thing of beauty.

Comment by Gooner Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:57 pm
Hope you feel batter, Rich.

Comment by thunderspirit Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:57 pm
Hope you feel better Rich. I’m going to take my cue from the Governor on how you should feel better. When you stop at Wal-greens to pick up cold medicine, treat the worker really poorly. That will help turn your cold around.

Comment by 360 Degree TurnAround Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 3:59 pm
Rich, Get well soon.

Comment by Gruntled University Employee Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:00 pm
All these booze ideas makin’ us thirsty.
Zycam stuff good.
But first get naked, throw yourself in the lake, take one gulp and expect poisons to kill the germs.

Comment by Anonin' Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:03 pm
I’m trying to figure it out. Are the state employees commenting in support of the “status quo” or against it. I’m confused. LOL

Comment by Ducky LaMoore Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:05 pm
New Illinois State Motto: “Hangin’ There”

Comment by Grimm Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:07 pm
++Here’s a question. How many of you are posting from an IL state office? I feel at least 2/3 of commentators are state employees or retirees… am I close?++ My guess is most are news people, politicians & others are retirees, but not all of them are state retirees. I doubt very much that State workers have time to post on here during work hours (maybe lunch hour). However, what difference does it make?

Comment by Mama Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:07 pm
=Mainly government IP addresses. No private businesses.

Surprise!

Not.=

https://capitolfax.com/2015/06/17/cullerton-workers-comp-is-not-an-economic-development-tool/

Comment by Robert the 1st Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:09 pm
I’ll give you a topic. The chick pea is neither a chick nor a pea. Discuss!

Comment by Dudeman Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:09 pm
I feel your pain. Hopefully your editor doesn’t throw another Polish war re-enactor at you and you can call it an early night.

Comment by Me too Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:11 pm
Be careful any OTC cold remedies you take, as they may interact poorly with any new meds. (My youngest is a newly minted pharmacist.)

Comment by Diogenes in DuPage Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:19 pm
=== Here’s a question. How many of you are posting from an IL state office? I feel at least 2/3 of commentators are state employees or retirees… am I close? ===

What a perceptive observation. Who’d a thunk that a blog dealing with State government and the politics that affect state government would be attract the interest of folks who work(ed) in state government. Of course your rhetorical question can’t be answered, but your unimportant inference is understood by all.

As with most things in life you get a better quality of information/services from people with experience. If you don’t care for experience, I’d be willing to help you repair your car really cheap.

Comment by Norseman Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:23 pm
Feel better Rich!

Comment by Chicago Cynic Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:25 pm
(Tips cap to - Norseman-, lol)

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:25 pm
I do charge by the hour. Results are not guaranteed.

Comment by Norseman Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:26 pm
Feel better. Hot toddy!

Comment by Amalia Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:26 pm
Gooner — I’m a Villa fan. It’s been a terrible season so far. I mean, at least we beat Birmingham City in the League Cup, but we are seriously looking at relegation.

Comment by Jabes Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:27 pm
Would be surprised if at least 1/3 were not Current or former state employees

Comment by Very Fed Up Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:27 pm
“Norseman’s Campaign, Government, and Auto Repair” - Hourly rates available.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:28 pm
As a retired state employee, I would hazard a guess that very few active employees are using the state computer and thestate internet to post here. Except those shilling for the governor.

Comment by BaronvonHammer Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:32 pm
Norseman’s repair broke my car down worse, but it saved me a TON of money!

Comment by Southern Illinois Hoopdee Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:33 pm
Rich

Get your Flu shot when you get well.

I get one every year. The one year that I missed it, 1999, I was sick for three weeks without pay. Never again, get your flu shot

I have gotten sick since then but never ever even close and have not taken a sick day in over six years. Get your Flu shot.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:34 pm
Rich, hope you feel better soon. If not, get thyself to the doc.

Robert, State retiree here blogging while I’m not out whizzing away my fat pension. Feel better now?

Comment by Arthur Andersen Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:35 pm
Norseman’s Campaign, Government, and Auto Repair Cards are being printed now.

Thanks Willy. Like it.

Comment by Norseman Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:35 pm
Here’s something to discuss. Eric Zorn’s column: “Why it’s time to pick a side in the budget battle” for those not directly connected to the conflict, but whom represent those negatively affected by the standoff.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/zorn/ct-illinois-budget-impasse-take-a-stand-zorn-perspec-1030-20151029-column.html

Comment by Wensicia Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:36 pm
Rich, single malt scotch, 2 fingers, neat.

Comment by Bogey Golfer Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:37 pm
Hoopdee, my motto is I try harder. Oops, Avis’ attorney is calling again.

Comment by Norseman Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:38 pm
- Norseman - I tried to keep it less wordy, lol.

Send me a stack!

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:39 pm
Clearly Rich is trying to besiege our sympathies with his - “I’m miserable” - line…I for one won’t buy his sham of a cold! (obvious snark)

But just in case, try chicken soup, followed by two fingers twice of Jaegermeister, that’ll do it.

Comment by Captain Illini Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:40 pm
Robert is Rauner

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:41 pm
By the way, as noted above, the heart med/cold med warning is serious.

I hear somebody combined those once prior to a political event a year or so ago and had to be taken out by ambulance.

That’s not something to mess around with.

Comment by Gooner Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:41 pm
In the private sector, always on a private computer, and never post from a state office (unless you count the cafeteria at the JRTC every once in awhile as a “state office”.

Comment by Six Degrees of Separation Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:44 pm
Norseman, I’ll hustle up some business for you. If you do Body Shop work, my kids’ car could keep you going part time for years.

Comment by Arthur Andersen Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:53 pm
Oy. Rich, this thread is proof enough that you should wash you hands 30 times a day and stay healthy. lol.

Comment by A guy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:55 pm
- Norseman -, get a big enough place and rent campaign office space.

You can advertise on Capitol Fax.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:58 pm
AA, my late father-in-law was in the biz. Since my wife helped in the shop, I might actually get good enough advice to paint a scratch. Remember, I try harder!

Ring… Ring … Darn that Avis lawyer.

Comment by Norseman Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 4:59 pm
Get well soon, Rich!

As long as advice is being handed out: puppy snuggles, hot toddy and rest. In whatever order you like.

Comment by cailleach Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 5:04 pm
Stay home because people will make you sick

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 5:06 pm
Get better, there’s nobody else around that will spoon feed us important info..

Comment by Mouthy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 5:07 pm
We Want Barton!!

Comment by Kenny Bania Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 5:09 pm
Joan Rivers is to guest hosting Carson’s “Tonight Show, as Barton is to guest hosting Capitol Fax.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 5:13 pm
Except Joan Rivers wore less makeup….

Comment by Ducky LaMoore Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 5:23 pm
I hope you get better soon, Rich. Please get enough rest and keep the stress levels down.

Comment by Grandson of Man Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 5:24 pm
Fell better Rich. a weekend by a nice cozy fire and away from us sounds pretty wonderful…

Comment by Poolguy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 5:44 pm
== Just started following this blog and am impressed with all the words of wisdom. Really curious how this (budget impasse) ends. My guess is that Rauner at some point very loudly drops the most onerous anti-union stuff and calls it a “moral victory.” Tax hike occurs with a few Republican votes and a few cuts are made and no one is very happy. What do you all think? ==

The General Assembly does not need a budget because they don’t have to spend money; the Executive Branch does need a budget to spend money (OK, the 10% of the budget that is not under court order of one kind or another). It’s going to have to be most of not all of the GOP votes on the tax hike with a few Dem votes to make up the difference.

Comment by RNUG Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 5:44 pm
1) Get well, Rich.

2) Unwelcome and unsolicited impasse advice: “How to Spot Manipulative Behavior” and “Trust After Emotional Abuse” http://www.metafilter.com/154260/How-to-spot-manipulative-behavior

The realization that you were duped and manipulated by a predator generates strong feelings of shame, guilt, and confusion. You wonder how you could have made such a terrible mistake, and you probably feel so, so stupid! You may tend to beat yourself up and sometimes become your own worst enemy. It is important, first, to acknowledge that all of these emotions are normal and okay. It takes much time to feel them fully and work through them, and the process is far from neat and tidy. Try to be patient with yourself and with life in general. It is impossible to rush through recovery. It is also so critical to be very gentle with yourself and become your own best friend. You can give yourself positive affirmations and make a deliberate effort to stop the negative thoughts that might creep in. This is the challenging path toward self-forgiveness and self-love. You trusted the wrong person because you did not know such monsters existed. The abuse was never your fault! When you internalize these truths, and when you begin to listen more carefully to your heart, you will discover something deep within you that is extremely valuable… your intuition.

– MrJM

Comment by @MisterJayEm Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 6:00 pm
Rich. Look behind your washer/dryer. Find that rogue sock that missed the basket. Place it as a face mask. Inhale deeply. You will feel much better once you burn the sock and breath good air. (The cold will stay for awhile)

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 6:19 pm
I wish I lived closer; I would bring you over some soup. Get some rest and drink plenty of fluids. I hope you get better soon. I agree with some of the commenters, see a doctor if you aren’t better tomorrow.

Comment by Rich's Mom Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 6:20 pm
Here’s a serious question: why couldn’t the Democrats own a tax hike? I realize that a lot of us are programmed to think that a tax increase is bad, but if there’s enough pain dished out, then the Dems could become heroes and more or less use a tax hike as more leverage against Rauner. If it goes south, then go back to “governor’s own.”

Comment by Southern Illinois Hoopdee Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 6:31 pm
Governors sign tax increases, otherwise you don’t pass them.

Further, Rauner needs revenue, so the toll, is all 67 GOP green lights… with Rauner’s signature.

That’s why governors own, they always have. It’s not a new concept, but Rauner refuses to see the dynamic and is willing to pay ($) anything to own nothing at the other cost, the other shoe… of the ILGOP and the GOP GA.

The politics, it’s as clean as crisp as can be.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 6:38 pm
OW,

I think my greater point is that by holding out this long, Madigan and Co. have already pushed themselves into an advantageous position regardless of what they do. It’s what happens when one party at the negotiating table plays chess and the others play checkers. You can probably guess, without too much trouble, which is which.

What you seem to be counting on is that Rauner is willing to do that when I think he’d rather sink himself rather than pass a tax hike. He’d rather cut. If he’s going to own anything, it’s going to be the ownership he and the people who bought him want.

Dems would most certainly be fixing the state’s issues with a tax hike…though to be fair I’d be wanting to see Dems reward the people who supported them and punish the Raunerite crowd.

Comment by Southern Illinois Hoopdee Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 6:44 pm
VODKA!

Comment by Geneseo Gent Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 6:46 pm
- Southern Illinois Hoopdee -,

Ugh.

In Febuary the Dems had Rauner with Rauner’s own budget needing revenue. There is no greater point. It’s the Math. Nothing has changed since that letdown. Rauner is holding out, thinking hurting people is leverage, knowing in February, hurting people was the game plan.

The deficit is going to be $10 billion soon.

How do you think Rauner can cut $10 billion? He can’t.

The reason Dems aren’t forcing the revenue increase is because Rauner can’t make his own numbers now work without one.

Math is Math is Math.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 6:51 pm
Rich you inadvertently picked a great time to be sick- the whole state government mess is a repetitive drone of misinformation and accusations.

I call a three-day weekend for everyone. Shut it down and start all over Monday.

Comment by DuPage Dave Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 7:02 pm
Hope you feel better soon, Rich.

Comment by Mousy Librarian Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 7:09 pm
Rich. Be careful of meds with heart meds. Your doctor needs to be reminded as well.

I prefer whiskey, honey and cinnamon after something spicy for a cold. Clears the head and a little rest in before the head clogs again

Comment by FormerParatrooper Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 7:12 pm
If only we could get Rauner and his shills to read this blog and all the comments so they could benefit from all the wisdom expressed.

Comment by dogbreath Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 7:14 pm
I assume Rich is smart enough to avoid alcohol when experiencing cold symptoms. I know many of you were joking but booze can neutralize your immune system, dehydrate you, and give you pseudo-wellness, which can drain you even more. Plenty of water and rest, that’s the ticket.

Comment by Robert the 1st Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 7:30 pm
Outrageous. Outrageous. Shouldn’t have happened.

Comment by Dale Cooper Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 7:32 pm
I vote for chicken soup and puppy hugs as the cure. What ever…the Get Well, Rich, Campaign is out in full force!

Comment by DuPage Grandma Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 8:46 pm
Rich, please take note:
Do not mix Motrin and Robitussin it can cause a heart attack.

Comment by Mama Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 8:59 pm
==Here’s a question. How many of you are posting from an IL state office? I feel at least 2/3 of commentators are state employees or retirees… am I close?==

If OW is anything but a retiree, he needs to be fired immediately. lol

Comment by justacitizen Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 9:22 pm
Lots of meaningless garble here. Everyone stop drinking and go to bed!!!

Comment by Blue dog dem Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 9:56 pm
Norse. 4:23
A House lick for that fine comment!

Comment by Property of IDOC Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 9:58 pm
- blue dog dem -

We’ll turn the music down and stay off your lawn…

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 9:59 pm
- Keyrock -,

There’s also 3 more years left on the contract, HBO has been very generous

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 10:05 pm
Get some rest, recharge, and get well soon. Get some sun, if you are able.

Comment by Blago's Hare Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 10:18 pm
== There’s also 3 more years left on the contract, HBO has been very generous ==

-OW-, you won’t need to work that hard. For the next 3 years, just re-shoot the same scripts with minor editing for the changing dollar amounts and the 2016 election possibly changing some of the players.

Comment by RNUG Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 11:03 pm
Hoopdee, the fact is that neither party will ever be in an advantageous position to vote for a tax increase. People don’t like taxes. Government needs taxes to operate so people don’t like government. That’s why people seeking office will rail against taxes and government and promise things people like. That is human nature and fact of political life.

Both parties recognize the need for a tax hike given the current state fiscal condition. One is being more honest about it than the other. Both want political cover to help protect members at risk for electoral defeat due to a pro-tax vote. The Raunerites want the turnaround agenda for cover, while the Dems want Raunerite votes and Rauner’s support for cover. Rauner wants the turnaround agenda for his crusade against unions and for political cover of his support for tax increases.

If it really was an issue of Rauner ONLY supporting taxes that Dems want in exchange for union curbs, than it would logically fit that the Dem rejection of Rauner’s agenda would result in a Rauner rejection of tax increases. Simple negotiation tactics - you don’t give me what I want, I won’t give you what you want. You would think that Rauner would then push for a balanced budget through cuts and probably special fund raids. That’s not happening because Rauner doesn’t want to wear the jacket for the types of cuts needed to balance the budget. Remember Willy’s admonition that Governor’s own! So we sit in a horrendous budgetary impasse waiting for Rauner to get his political cover - the political cover he insists on: union restrictions. As Rich has so brilliantly pointed out, the Dems don’t need to vote for a tax increase.

Comment by Norseman Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 11:29 pm
- RNUG -,

You and I know that, HBO doesn’t!

===That’s not happening because Rauner doesn’t want to wear the jacket for the types of cuts needed to balance the budget.===

Great, great point, I miss/forget when responding, sometimes in shorthand. Great comment - Norseman -, hitting the much needed reset as to, the complete, whats and whys.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 29, 15 @ 11:39 pm
Late to the thread… Robert, I dare say that most state govt employees are extremely well aware of the prohibition against using state property (such as computers) for non state purposes. And most have so much to do they don’t have time during the work day to follow this blog on their mobile devices.

Comment by Gobsmacked Friday, Oct 30, 15 @ 2:09 am
Norseman, if this was Twitter, your post would be the “Pinned Tweet” at the top of every thread about this mess. Outstanding.

Comment by Arthur Andersen Friday, Oct 30, 15 @ 5:25 am

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