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Election results analysis thread - The morning after

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If I can take my eyes off this bizarre, late night TV coverage of the Cook County president’s race, I’ll be heading to bed soon and won’t be posting until later this morning because I have to do a long Capitol Fax first.

In the meantime, click on one of the election results links at the bottom of this post and take a look at how the vote went statewide then talk about it below.

To the Topinka/Duckworth/Radogno/Watson/Seals/etc. supporters out there, please try to avoid too much bitterness. You had ample opportunity to vent last night. The people have spoken. You gotta come to terms with it, so you might as well start now - even though the end of a losing campaign has all the subtlety of a speeding freight train slamming into a mountainside.

Besides, after I’m done working on other things I’ll just delete the over-the-top invective anyway. So deal with it or take it elsewhere.

*** UPDATE *** People. The title says “analysis thread,” not “whining thread.” If you still feel the urge to vent, go here so we can wall it off.

*** UPDATE 2 *** From the Sun-Times website:

posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 1:45 am

Comments

  1. There are a hundred observations I can make, but I’ll stick to two.

    First, my analysis shows a clear correlation between Rich Whitney’s vote total and the places where he had the highest name recognition - which are, in turn, the places he got the fairest media coverage. His strongest counties were based around Carbondale, where he’s from, and Rockford, where the Register Star endorsed him. Some people will balk at this suggestion, but I think this demontrates that when a third party candidate gets treated as an equal by major media, it’s reflected in the polls.

    Second, I observe that the election reaffirms the power of incumbency in the state - especially down-ballot. For down-ballot races, it’s of course common for incumbents to win in huge numbers. But the system in Illinois is designed to even more greatly enhance this, between unfair ballot access requirements *for established parties* (keeping “maverick” candidates out), lack of campaign finance restrictions, and heavily gerrymandered districts. This election clearly demonstrates the need for major election reform in Illinois, and unfortunately, the overall election results - a strengthening of power for the people who stand to lose the most if that election reform were implemented - mean that we’re unlikely to see this reform any time soon.

    Comment by Phil Huckelberry Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:24 am

  2. I predicted some time ago that Tony Peraica would lose both his bid for the Presidency and his district seat. Now it appears I was dead on. Bye Bye Tony.

    Comment by Told Ya So Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:28 am

  3. Considering Peraica had done better than any GOP Prez candidate in god-knows-when, he would have had a very good shot in 2010 if the mind-blowing corruption and dysfunction in Cook County continued under Todd. After pulling this stunt, however, he can kiss those plans goodbye.

    Comment by Nickname Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:53 am

  4. I just don’t get it. This State’s citizens continue to condone, or at best, choose to look the other way in the face of deep-seeded corruption. It’s one thing to argue over ideology, but to give a pass to to what appears to be blatant wrongdoing floors me. Are we as a State trying to unseat Louisiana for some title I’m not aware of?

    Comment by Aaron Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:06 am

  5. Like I said, when Giannoulias runs for AG or Gov or Senator in the future, I have a feeling that his opponent will be running ads accusing him of being “Rod Blagojevich’s Treasurer.”

    Comment by Nickname Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:07 am

  6. Considering that the 8 people (6 officers, Sen Prez, and Speaker) who run the state are now ALL Chicagoans, might it not be wise for the Republicans in the 2008 General Assembly elections to run under a platform that they will select their Speaker and/or President from the Collar Counties or Downstate if they win majorities?

    Comment by Nickname Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:55 am

  7. I hope the voters of Illinois enjoy the government they deserve. C’mon Fitz.

    Comment by Really Disgusted Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:18 am

  8. I just woke up to here about this bizarre little thing with Peraica. I have no idea what is going on, but I like his fire. I like how one of his supporters said, “We need to get the Iraqi provisional government here to teach these people how to run an election.” Ouch! Other than that, let me offer congrats to the dems in their state-wide victory and their take over of the house (and possibly the senate). Congratulations to the Bean and Roskam people… oh yeah, and the Hare people. And of course, my guy, Ray Lahood.

    Comment by Lovie's Leather Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:22 am

  9. Good Morning everyone,
    What a great night! Congratulations to the people of Illinois! As I look at the vote map for the Gov’s race, I see a lot of blue on downstate counties right around the tip. I was just wondering if that included the Little Egypt area. Can someone fill me in on that little detail?
    Tony sure showed his true colors last night as a low class street punk and bully who wants to fight if he doesn’t get his own way. He gone!!!
    Emil will have his hands full with a veto proof majority! Seeya Cheryl, it was nice while it lasted. I guess even suburban Repubs didn’t fall for those direct mail hatchet pieces.
    Fred Crespo, the unlikely conquering hero! Has anybody seen Terry lately. Maybe he is leading a march on the Bd. of Elections!
    Well, there is not much left to say except thanks to all who worked so hard to make this victory possible. I can’t remember a more satisfying election night.
    We, the people have prevailed!

    Comment by Bill Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:34 am

  10. I think the Illinois election has proved one thing, and one thing only…….. Cook County should be its own state….

    Comment by Lovie's Leather Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:41 am

  11. With a 37-22 Majority in the Senate (assuming Kotowski also wins), the State will finally be able to make progress on road construction and other bondable projects, reasonable gun safety measures and stem cell research without much regard to the minority (who may be clamoring to vote on some of these issues which served as the undoing on many Republican candidates). However, what is the Committee structure going to look like? Will Dems have 2-3 seat majorities on each committee? What was the Committee structure like when the Speaker had a veto proof majority? I have heard that those two years were difficult for the House Dems because it was a logistical nightmare finding majorities because members had so many of their Democratic colleagues to look to to take their tough vote[s].

    Also, Blagojevich’s win was gigantic for the long term viability of the Democratic party because it gives Democratss 4 more years to (like Jesse White has) embed their folks into State government and establish them as the subject matter “experts” who posess the “institutional knowledge” (and are legally protected from termination). The Dems may move to restructure the RTA (similar to the State Board of Education) to better fund transportion projects in areas where they have moved (although since 4 wins were in the suburbs maybe the Dems just need to change how appointments are made, not where they are from).

    Without any jobs to dole out on the State or County level, the Republican party, who profess a strong desire for private sector solutions for government, are going to have to tell their folks to look to the private sector for their jobs (I wouldn’t want to be in charge of DuPage County patronage tomorrow). The party will need to figure out a way to build field organizations without turning to the far religious right (who ultimately proved to be Ken Blackwell’s undoing in Ohio and other places) lest they drive more suburban moderates into the Democratic fold (that’s you Matt Murphy).

    One more thing yesterday established. DUPAGE COUNTY IS VERY FERTILE TERRITORY FOR DEMOCRATS TO GROW AND PLAY IN OVER THE NEXT 2-4 YEARS!

    P.S. The big question in the next two years will be: Can the Democratss take their Suburban momentum into Township elections in 2 years and take away the last source of patronage jobs and contracts for the Republican Party?

    Comment by Lansdlide! Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:00 am

  12. Well, looks like there will be a “For Sale” sign in the front yard of the mansion. Got make up the money somehow to keep expanding programs that we can’t afford. Although, it looks like it was sold just after the 02 election.

    Comment by Cappy Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:09 am

  13. AFSCME is there to help - organize NOW!

    Comment by IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO MERIT COMP STATE EMPLOYEES Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:11 am

  14. For analysis purposes: the Bruce Stewart win in the IL 5th District (Appellate Court) is noteworthy. Business groups (JUSTPAC) poured a ton of money in there for McGlynn. The area is trending more conservative each election — but the Democrats managed to win back vacancy created when Gordon Maag lost his bid for retention 2 years ago.

    Comment by Grocery Guy Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:12 am

  15. The question I have is will Watson step down? The problem is I can’t think of anyone that could take him out. Dillard?

    Comment by Daddy make the pain go away! Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:21 am

  16. Huge winner is Rahm. Can you imagine the favors he can cash in with Pelosi?

    Ken Blackwell’s undoing in Ohio

    Let’s dont let our glee cloud our judgement. Taft’s corruption proved too much for Blackwell to overcome.

    The real key nationally is who will be harder on Bush, the Dems, or the House Rs who blame Bush for their loss?

    Comment by Pat Collins Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:33 am

  17. Hey Lovie’s Leather! I’m sure that Cook county has some of the same feelings about separate statehood. Especially when the majority of tax revenue and forward thinking is generated there.

    Comment by Fellow Dawg Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:38 am

  18. I do not understand how we as a collective electorite refuse to see what is in front of our eyes.

    Bill is going to be insufferable.

    Comment by huh? Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:45 am

  19. I just read the Opinion section of today’s SJ-R. The editors gave the newly re-elected Governor some advice for his second term as to what not to do: don’t pander, patronize, focus on politics versus process, and don’t be a “pansy”. They labeled these the “p” words.

    Minutes after reading the article, I saw a commercial touting the AllKids program. Q:Why would an AllKids commercial be aired after the election? A: Maybe these commercial were not being done exclusively to help the Governor get re-elected; they are being done as matter of good policy. Incidentally, “policy” is also a “p” word.

    Comment by Unspun Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:38 am

  20. ‘Bill is going to be insufferable. ‘

    I seriously doubt it - too good a backbone; only a weak and spineless jerk would gloat. Bill, whoever the Hell he is, has maintained a fierce loyalty to boss who could use a heart transplant.

    Bill is a great example of the professional public servant. Sleep in Bill; take the balance of the week off -yeah sure, he’s probably at his desk already putting out fires for The Haircut.

    Comment by Pat Hickey Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:39 am

  21. I guess the US Presidency is next. Every speech talks of the national agenda.

    If that should happen the investagations should really kick in and he will be gone - or he will win at be far away. Either way, the citizens and state workers of Illinos will get a break!

    Go Rod Go!

    Comment by Scared Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:44 am

  22. Madigan’s Steve Brown in today’s trib (I posted links over on Illinoiz),

    “It’s a good referendum on Democratic policies,” Brown said.

    Under the trio of Chicago Democrats—Jones, Madigan and Gov. Rod Blagojevich—the social agenda over the last four years included laws bolstering gay rights, requiring equal pay for women and increasing the minimum wage—something the governor made clear he hoped to do again.

    A lot of Liberals and Progressives in Illinois made a deal with the Machine for this. I think they’re going to be wondering if it was really worth it sooner rather than later.

    I think one of the first victims of the scandals sure to come will be Obama’s national chances.

    This is a victory that will come with a huge cost.

    Comment by Bill Baar Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:46 am

  23. Question of the Day - who will be appointed to fill Hastert’s seat in congress when he resigns in January?

    Comment by Anon Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:54 am

  24. On Target, Bill!

    There is a gradus to public service taken by effective politically elected officials - they are successful.

    Bill, the voter, has been talked down to by the incubated and hatched ‘reformers.’ Incubated and hatched by university think tanks, study groups, and other tweedy wonders who could care less what the average voters wants in a punlic servant.

    The Coalitions, Mobilization Cadres, Peoples Movements and all that sort of nonsense is not and never has been grassroots - grassroots is Mrs. Bobich with a cracked driveway and two sons home from Iraq looking to take the Cement Finishers test and want the Precinct Captain to reachout to Aldo Parreti the BA with Laborers until the test is talken and the Precinct Captain calls the Alderman about Mrs. Bobich’s problems and the Alderman ‘gets on it’ and the Precinct Captain delivers. That’s Grassroots.

    The ‘Machine’ like it or not is Grassroots its called government service.

    So, before Sqweaker or Mousey, or Greenie, or all the other faux pundits who sneered at the voting slob public yesterday ( Skeeter’s howl about railing at the ’stupid voters’ e.g. How does that beauty get through the day in one piece?) gets the Haines in a knot with ‘Pay to Play, or Insiders, or Royal Families - read the numbers and grow up. You want to be a public servant? Serve. You want to be a ‘Reformer?’ Do what Forrest and Tony Peraica have done shoot your foot.

    Comment by Pat Hickey Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:57 am

  25. Speaking as an independent “little l” libertarian, last night was an unmitigated disaster. I’m always faced with choosing the lesser of two evils, but this time I was stuck with the Greater Satan.

    I just don’t get it. The Dems, who profess a love of personal freedom, want to destroy a fundamental Constitutional right. The Repubs, meanwhile, bleat they want to end governmental involvement in personal issues but try and legislate what happens in citizen’s bodies. Bleah.

    A pox on both houses. If this country doesn’t depolarize and soon, there is no hope at all.

    Comment by Ken in Aurora Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:01 am

  26. Well…I guess in a few months the Republicans will have to come up with a solid canidate to run against Quinn. What a sad day for Illinois…we have hit bottom!

    Comment by Sick Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:01 am

  27. The Ghost of George Ryan still haunts the Illinois GOP!

    Comment by Fellow Dawg Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:05 am

  28. Peraica really should have shown some restraint. He just destroyed whatever may have been left of his political career.

    Comment by Snidely Whiplash Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:08 am

  29. …run against Quinn

    I don’t think the Gov resigns if indicted. I may be wrong here but I don’t think he goes unless impeached or convicted, and after this kind of victory he’s not about to resign or get impeached.

    So it will be a very bad time for Illinois not to mention the so called progressives who are going to have him hung around their necks.

    I saw Hastert at a Kane ralley over the weekend. He looked tired.

    Comment by Bill Baar Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:08 am

  30. Kirk and Roskam kept the collar red, which should be a moral victory to the GOP considering how many Midwestern seats the party lost (Leach losing to Loebsack was one of the big surprises). Will Hastert serve out his new term or retire?

    Comment by Boone Logan Square Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:20 am

  31. Not surprised but disappointed! Frank Watson looks like he was asleep at the wheel. Can you impeach a governor in Illinois?

    Comment by curious Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:24 am

  32. Congratulations to the Dems who now have full control over the State of Illinois along with the responsibilities associated with those wins.

    Before they celebrate too much they should come to the realization that they now have no one to blame any longer for the poor financial mess this state is in. The governor will not be able to blame the mess he is creating on past administrations or the Republicans. As Illinois’ debt continues to climb and the state’s bond ratings begin to plummet the electorate will rightly blame those who control all levels of this state’s government. Celebrate now for it will be a long hard four years for those in power and we the people of Illinois will be the ones to suffer.

    We deserve the government we get for it is we as a collective that have voted them in. Rejoice.

    Comment by Sound Reasoning Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:24 am

  33. I think the voters of illinois get what they ask for. I thought that this state could’nt get any worse. “It Will”

    Comment by ironman Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:25 am

  34. Thrilled with the national results, and mortified by our local results. Where do suburban, moderate Dems signup to secede from Cook County? How in the world did us Dems nominate Alexi, and how in the world does he get elected? How in the world do the voters give a strong win to Toddler given how he was placed on the ballot, and his poor performace in every tv, newspaper and radio debate? I just don’t get it, and I’m not the only one.

    Comment by Niles Township Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:28 am

  35. Can you impeach a governor in Illinois?

    Read Section 14.

    Comment by Bill Baar Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:30 am

  36. things are turning blue all over. Illinois was trending this way, but this election is dramatically in favor of the Dems. There is only one answer to this….Republican=Bush. And the people do not like that in more and more places.

    Comment by bench coach Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:51 am

  37. The Illinois Republican Party hasn’t fielded a strong slate for a long time. It has no “up-and-comers” waiting in the wings. In the governor’s race, it had no powerful ideas to inspire people.

    Until the GOP finds candidates who have positive ideas, can communicate them vividly, and win the minds of the voters, they will be looking in from the outside for a long time.

    Comment by Fan of the Game Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:56 am

  38. Well, looks like there will be a “For Sale” sign in the front yard of the mansion

    would you mind listing it with a good realtor? think of all the money the state would get in it’s sale — and save from not having to pay for upkeep! what a deal for illinois taxpayers!

    Comment by bored now Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:57 am

  39. Well another bad night for the Republicans. Personally hate to see it but here is what will happen…

    1. Speaker Hastert will resign and live happily ever after. Good man big loss in dollars for State.

    2. Tom Cross will take Hastert spot realizing its better then being a non-entity in the Illinois House and with the uphill battle to raise money and became an entity etc. He will go to DC retool and maybe return for statewide run. He didn’t win one race he thought he would and he appears to have lost Terry Parke.

    3. This is a wake up call for Dillard and Schillerstrom they need to come together stop fighting as does all the local townships and get the ship turned back around. Some statewide candidates didn’t carry their own county (Carole Pankau), most won by small margins less then 60% which hasn’t happened in a very long time, and they almost lost a house seat on the east end of the county…..

    4. Happy days are here again for President Jones!!!! Chicago will continue to drive the agenda and more social expensive programs for Chicago paid for by the rest of the State.

    5. What can you say about Speaker Madigan another big night now onto Lisa being Gov in four years….

    Comment by Sideliner Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:57 am

  40. Bench Coach,

    The National election was an affirmation of Lieberman more than a repudiation of Bush.

    The vitory was for sensible Democrats and a repudiation of some bad strategies proposed for Dems (read the DLC’s Bruce Reed in Slate today).

    I have a hard time believing Blagojevich and Stroger owe their victories to Bush though. It was JBT unable to shrug the ghost of George Ryan.

    Comment by Bill Baar Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:01 am

  41. I know we always focus on IL here, I want to take a contrarian view to what I am hearing from the national pundits on how this sets up the Dems for 2008. First, it is alot easier to be a party in opposition when complaining about the direction of the country. Second, not to be sexist, but I don’t think the country will have two women leaders in the top three positions by 2008. If the Dems retain the house, and Nancy Pelosi remains Speaker, I don’t see how Hilary can possibly win in a general. In light of that, I think some Dems will be looking to the second tier of candidates. That tier just doesn’t match up as well against McCain or Rudy if they are the nominees. Now if the GOP goes right, and nominates someone else like a Brownback or Romney, then the Dems have a chance at taking the WHite House. Where the Dems, go tset up well was 6 - 12 years from now, with a new crop of govs being elected. After all, thats where most of presidents come from..

    Comment by Niles Township Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:03 am

  42. Peraica just 200 votes ahead of his district opponent w/50% of vote processed should have kept his eye on home base……No matter how close Rahm is to Pelosi losing Hassert as speaker will be a blow to Illinois

    Comment by vince glothor Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:09 am

  43. Well, it’s finally over. Humility is a character trait that is definitely learned, and is not in itself natural.

    The Democrats now have the focus entirely on them. They will have no one but themselves to look at for either their successes or failures. Will they succeed? In some cases yes, others no. When they tend to act very Liberal they will fail.

    When the Republican Party again returns to its roots, that being conservatism, we will again have a two-party choice in Illinois. Moderation only works when used by Democrats to get their people elected and Liberalism is generally very close behind.

    For all of you Whitney supporters; tell us in 6 months if you think your vote was wisely cast.

    For the Illinois Republican Party; are you ready for someone like Bill Brady? I know I sure am. No more Judy Topinkas; no more Alan Keyes. No more……………

    Comment by Jechislo Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:12 am

  44. New County Numbers

    TODD TONY
    218153 339520 COOK 121367
    394313 181350 CITY
    612466 520870 1133336 TOTAL COUNT
    54.04% 45.96%

    91596 MARGIN

    It’s over

    Tony, show some class, if you know how to, which is doubtful

    Comment by hmmmmmm Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:13 am

  45. To all you Rebublicans…would you like a little cheese with you’re whine ? The electoriate has spoken …loudly

    Comment by oldie opah Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:18 am

  46. Yes, the People have spoken. Laugh, cry, rejoice, and/or nash your teeth. The circus continues. It’s too bad the price of tickets are so high.

    Comment by Ali bin Hadde Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:22 am

  47. Republicans have a point: Blagojevich’s “Blame George Ryan for all that is wrong with Illinois” shtick is going to get old during his second term. It worked for Term #1, but will not for Term #2.

    To make the national analogy, Republicans were able to make great headway during Bush’s first term by laying any problems (9/11, a so-so economy, etc.) at Bill Clinton’s door. By Bush’s second term, however, that didn’t work anymore. Voters were ready to impose accountability on the party actually in power.

    Message to Blago: It gets tougher from here on out. If there’s a problem, saying it’s Ryan’s fault isn’t gonna fly so well in the future.

    Comment by ZC Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:23 am

  48. It amazes me most that Todd won.
    National question, will the dems run as moderates they appeared to be or wil they be a sure thing for Ried/Pelosi. Will Pelosi be speaker? Will Rahm make a charge for it? Will Bean continue to vote as she has?

    Comment by Wumpus Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:23 am

  49. I would bet Cross will run for Governor before running for Hasterts seat.

    Comment by curious Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:25 am

  50. Analysis of commentators last night: Pam Zekman looked mummified. Cliff Kelly made no sense. Michael Sneed, to her credit, did not wish “Happy Birthday” to a dead Perry Como. Dick Simpson was pedantic.

    Some news station needs to give Rich Miller a seat on election night!

    Comment by Ravenswood Right Winger Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:31 am

  51. Now that we are almost four years past the George Ryan debacle it’s time to stop blaming him for everything wrong. HE’S GONE. Illinois has a multitude of fiscal and ethical problems facing us. The Chicago Dems have near-absolute control of Illinois politics. I hope they use this power wisely. There are too many problems in Illinois to continue playing the blame game.

    The Illinois GOP must be gutted and rebuilt in order to have a viable two-party system in Illinois.

    Comment by Tom Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:31 am

  52. I am a conservative-leaning Republican who is definitely not thrilled at the statewide results. But you know what? The sun still came up today. Birds are still singing. It’s actually a beautiful Indian Summer day here in central Illinois. Obviously the world did not end last night! And as much as I don’t like what the current administration has done to this state… still, it’s not as if we live in Iraq or Afghanistan or other places where a change of power means the “winners” are going to march into your town to kill all the “losers.” It may not be perfect, but it’s still America, and we can be grateful.

    Comment by 'Lainer Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:33 am

  53. ZC, you beat me to it.

    If the Illinois GOP is unwilling to rebuild itself maybe the Greens can be that second party. Illinois will be a blue state for a long time, so perhaps the best opposition would be the Greens.

    Comment by Tom Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:36 am

  54. Instead of turning towards the light, Cook county decided to turn into the night. With it’s billions in debt, lost businesses, anti-business mentality, high poverty rate, and massive corruption, Cook - along with Chicago - is gone.

    When Daley leaves, it is time to start turning off the lights that was once a great city.

    There was a pretty good run for 100 years, but after 60 years of one party rule, Chicago has run out of ideas. From now on, everyone is going to start fighting over teh carcasses. They will continue to jack up taxes, drive businesses from the Loop, and pass nanny-state policies.

    With the fall of Chicago, goes Illinois. Like Michigan with Detroit, Illinois will be further damaged by the domestic auto collapse, nanny-state social programs and a shrinking tax base.

    There is no GOP to counter this slide. The last of the moderate Republicans lost yesterday, leaving only unelectable right-wingers unattractive to metropolitan voters.

    If you like the way things are going in this state, you will be getting a whole lot more of it. Don’t complain! Bend over and meet the Democrats!

    Comment by VanillaMan Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:38 am

  55. The new crop of U.S. house Dem’s are generally conservative on foreign policy issues, and progressive on internal policy. They are responsible for the new majority in congress. Their voices will be heard by Pelosi and Reid, I for one welcome it, and look forword to the end of wimpy dems like Kerry

    Comment by oldie opah Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:41 am

  56. Looking at the various websites for the counties–DuPage, Will, mcHenry, it appears that 1.5%-1.8% of the ballots for governor were write-ins. I wonder how many people did get Nieuked last night? Guess we’ll have to wait until the state elections board comes up with its officical canvas to find out.

    train111

    Comment by train111 Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:43 am

  57. bill b….the reason I say it is Bush is because of numbers like the Beth Coulson race, Dan Seals, Pete Silvestri. These races were far closer than anyone imagined. Seals ran a good race, but Coulson, Silvestri? their opponents got no pub whatsoever.

    Comment by bench coach Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:43 am

  58. So the last Dem governor to win reelection was Kerner. Now let’s see…what happen to him? Oh yes, he was indicted by the US Attorney on corruption charges. Good morning, Gov. Quinn.

    Comment by Niles Township Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:44 am

  59. Hay maybe its time to reinvent the Republican “Wide-Awake Clubs” lead by Tony P… I can picture TP doing the below(taken from the Library of Congress”

    Hardly an official creation of the six-year old Republican Party, hundreds of Wide-Awake Clubs sprang into being in 1860. Dressed in capes and carrying lighted oil lamps mounted atop four-foot poles (which could easily be converted to cudgels), the Wide-Awakes marched in support of Lincoln and other Republican candidates, monitored polling places on election day, and added zest, excitement, and “among some non-Republicans” bitterness to what was already a crucial, and harrowing political campaign.

    Comment by Sideliner Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:46 am

  60. I don’t think Judy had much of a chance of winning against incumbency, local reaction to an unpopular war, the vast monies of her opponent and the aftereffects of the George Ryan scandal.
    Her campaign made some mistakes (dissing Allkids being a prime example) but so do they all.

    JBT when she gets over this loss has a good life ahead of her (if she stops smoking). No financial worries, great state pension, in demand as a public speaker, can take on any cause she chooses
    and be a prominent advocate.

    The state Republicans should take the weekend off to regroup and then immediately begin planning on how to revive the party. Getting rid of Thompson and Kjellander should be priority. Time for those old guys to go. All they have to do in the Dem-dominate legislature is show up–they aren’t responsible for anything–and they can devote all of their time to party building. Get to it, guys.
    Jim Edgar is right. Politicis is up and down.

    In the meantime, the price of Lisa (or Alexi’s) run for guv just went up big time. Not only do they have to fight each other, but Blago’s failure to disappear means he’ll be right out there with all those federal indictments, whether or not he himself is indicted. Not to mention ongoing reminders of Alexi’s bank’s mob loans.
    All of this can’t be good news for Dad Madigan.

    Comment by Cassandra Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:48 am

  61. Perhaps the future of the Illinois GOP is in someone like State Rep. Aaron Schock, who won reelection last night for a second term, against a pretty well-known figure in Peoria politics, in a traditionally Democratic district, by a wide enough margin that it can’t be considered a fluke. He seems to be well-liked by people of both parties, and he certainly does well at fundraising. And he’s only 25 — he could be around for a long time. Per Cassandra’s suggestion that the GOP devote itself to cleaning house and rebuilding, they might also want to take lessons in how to do it right from Schock.

    Comment by 'Lainer Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:01 am

  62. Frank Watson - What happened?

    Out of touch perhaps?

    Comment by Elon Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:12 am

  63. My analysis of this election is that it’s a wonderful commentary on the state of mind of the Illinois voting populace. The message the voters sent is that it’s okay to lie, cheat, bribe, and steal, as long as you make us feel good while doing it.

    I think the Republicans should take that message to heart. Forget ethics, just sell every principle you have in order to get campaign contributions. Break laws, screw the little guy, grease every palm in sight. No one cares how you get the bucks.

    The campaign for 2010 starts now.

    Comment by Southern Illinoisian Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:13 am

  64. On the warning side for Illinois Republicans … Jerry Weller ran against a lightly-funded, inexperienced Democrat (”There are more important things than the price of corn!”) who got very little media attention, and Weller got only 55% of the vote.

    Granted it was a wave year, but heads up Jerry. Smart money is that Rahm is coming after you in 2008.

    Comment by ZC Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:19 am

  65. Elon, what happened is that the average voter is an idiot. They over looked the corruption, bribes,non-qualified appointments, and a qualified gov candidate JBT. What IDOT needs to do is create a new state sign at our borders that state ” Home of the corrupt and dishonest state” Illinois

    Comment by ironman Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:28 am

  66. One interesting result is Lisa Madigan’s total. 72% (and it will grow a little, because the outstanding precincts are from Cook County) is impressive, even against only token opposition. It means Democrats love her, independents like her,and even a fair number of Republicans are comfortable pulling the lever for her. She is in a great position for 2010. I just hope she has the guts to run even if Blago is still around and seeks a third term. She would beat him easily.

    Comment by Realist Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:34 am

  67. Hmmmm…let’s see here…

    Nationally - Congress will be gridlocked for at least the next two years. Pelosi won’t have adequate headroom to override W’s vetoes and she’s not a very likeable person. I don’t see many of the newly elected Dems from down south and the hinterlands having much in common with her. She’s an old school leftie - a dinosaur. Nothing will get done in the next Congress. And, the Dems should be acutely aware of how fickle American voters are becoming, they could very easily find themselves on the losing end in ‘08 if they get out of line on immigration, taxes or gun control.

    Blago’s victory proves once again that, to the voters of Illinois, ethics isn’t even on the radar screen. Ditto in the case of Stroger and that guy who was elected Treasurer.

    It was funny how all these gun grabbers are licking their lips over Blago’s promise to pass a ban on so-called “assault weapons.” Won’t happen. The GA will have better things to worry about…like how to pay for pension shortfalls etc, etc.

    But, for a moment, let’s say that this “AW” ban did pass. Let me ask the gun grabbers in this thread whether they think that Illinois gun owners are going to dutifully march down to the police station to turn in their guns? How many “Wacos” or “Ruby Ridges” will come about as a result of your hatred of people who own firearms?

    Comment by Frosty Da Snowman Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:36 am

  68. Just observing that Obama sent out mail pieces on behalf of the Senate Democrats (5 pickups) and none for the House democrats (1 pickup - maybe). With his guy Alexi in Springfield and now securing Emil Jones a veto proof majority, Senator Rockstar did pretty good last night.

    Comment by The Obama Factor Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:38 am

  69. Time for the whining Republicans to regroup and run viable candidates instead of the bufoons that have been seen the last few years. Send in the clowns.

    Comment by NoMoreAdsForAWhile Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:43 am

  70. Yes, everyone loves Lisa Madigan big time. Maybe our first ever female governor will be a Dem rather than a Republican, but everyone seems to like her, that’s for sure.

    I sent over an email joke to Joe Novak of wherethemoneygoes about how he’s got plenty of fodder for the blog now that it is clear that Rod and Lisa are at odds, and then later on, I noted that he didn’t spare a minute before going after Rod again. Go read the latest post on the election here in Illinois. It is hilarious.

    Everyone thinks Madigan will run and that it’ll be trouble trouble trouble for Rod, who will probably be fighting with everyone for another 4 years. He said we haven’t seen anything yet? That can only mean one thing, folks. MORE fun with indictments this time around! Dozens of new indictments!! You ain’t seen indictments like we’re gonna see now, honey! (laugh)

    I think this whole election was a major protest against Bush. That’s what happened. Plus, we must all realize that during the last midterm election, history was made, so the Dems were sort of owed some wins, as they didn’t get their way last time around.

    As for the Illinois GOP? Let’s see, they ran an ultra-social conserv and lost big time. Then they ran a moderate who lost as tons of voters protested and thumbed their noses at everyone by voting for the Green, who used to be a Red. So now there’s no viable (read electable) opposition party at the state level (shudders in horror). That means that since both parties have experienced corruption, now it is going to be really really interesting without anyone left standing who might be a viable alternative. Doesn’t that make you feel really secure? (laugh)

    Comment by Angie Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:46 am

  71. Realist - Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:34 am:

    “I just hope she has the guts to run even if Blago is still around and seeks a third term. She would beat him easily.”

    Uh, I don’t think the Illinois Constitution will let Rod run for a third term. I think Thompson was ‘grandfathered’ and was the last Governor that could legally run for more than 2 terms. Steve Schnorf seems to be up on this type of thing. Steve?

    Comment by Jechislo Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:52 am

  72. Re: “I just don’t get it. This State’s citizens continue to condone, or at best, choose to look the other way in the face of deep-seeded corruption. It’s one thing to argue over ideology, but to give a pass to to what appears to be blatant wrongdoing floors me.”

    That’s why we need a babysitter like Fitz around.

    Comment by Angie (to Aaron) Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:57 am

  73. Jechislo, I don’t need to wait six months to tell you that my vote for Whitney was wisely cast. In fact, my analysis is that many more people would have also voted for Whitney, if they weren’t afraid of the so-called “spoiler effect.” The fact that no candidate in this race received a majority (greater than 50% of the total vote) should be a wakeup call to our legislators. We need a system of majority elections in Illinois. I still think that Instant Runoff Voting is the best solution, but I would even settle for traditional runoff elections. The question is now that the Democrats once again control all three branches, what will they do to eliminate the so-called “spoiler effect” and implement majority elections? I hope that they are paying attention because now that the Green Party is a legally established, major political party in Illinois, there are going to be an awful lot more three-way races than before.

    Comment by Squideshi Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:59 am

  74. Jechislo,
    There are no term limits for Illinois House, Senate or Statewide elected officials. That includes the Governor.

    Comment by Jaded Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:59 am

  75. Jechislo - :

    No term limits in IL. Rod can be Gov for life.

    Comment by Niles Township Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:00 am

  76. Jechislo - :

    No term limits in IL. Rod can be Gov for life. Scary thought!

    Comment by Niles Township Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:00 am

  77. Jechislo - :

    No term limits in IL. Rod can be Gov for life (or at least until convicted) Scary thought!

    Comment by Niles Township Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:01 am

  78. Baar, in regards to your 7:46 comment, that is a stunning analysis. I think it really shows the true machine at work. And we are watching it in front of our own eyes. It is really turning me into a person that would rather vote for a communist than a machine democrat. That being said… and I never thought I would say this…. FIGHT THE MACHINE!!! Jesse Jr for Chicago mayor!!! Kick all these machine dems out on the streets!

    Comment by Lovie's Leather Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:12 am

  79. I stand corrected on the term limits issue.

    Squideshi - you make some very interesting points. I’m still a Republican at heart but I’m listening…………..

    Comment by Jechislo Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:12 am

  80. As I’ve been saying for months, there are no term limits for Illinois guv. That’s what will make the next four years so interesting. Lisa. Alexi. Blago trying to hang on for lack of alternative job. Some Republican–Aaron Schock would be a thought. The perhaps revived Greens.

    Comment by Cassandra Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:13 am

  81. Tom Cross is not the only person who wants Denny’s seat. Look for Rep. Tim Schmitz, out going Kane Sheriff Ken Ramsey and possibly Kane Board boss Karen McConnihay to consider it

    Comment by 23eyes Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:18 am

  82. No way Schock makes a run this early in his career. It would be a long fall off a short cliff. I don’t see where Schock is going to go unless Lahood retires… because he would have huge problems trying to win the state Senate seat. Too early for Schock….

    Comment by Lovie's Leather Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:19 am

  83. Jechislo, IRV is a nonpartisan issue. There are Republicans, Libertarians, Greens, and Democrats who all support it. In fact, even though there were multiple Democrat co-sponsors on some of the IRV bills introduced in the Illinois General Assembly, the primary sponsor was Republican Representative Paul Froehlich. The problem is that the Democrat majority on the House Rules committee, for some reason, will not let the bills come to a vote or even be debated upon. Why?

    Comment by Squideshi Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:25 am

  84. Welcome to the newest Welfare State.

    Comment by heet101 Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:29 am

  85. Frosty, The insulting rhetoric used in your blog, is part of the problem, as someone who hears both sides of of the gun issue debate it seems both sides turn a deaf ear the the others issue. Until anti gun proponents are willing to listen to collectors and hunters and visa versa we will never solve the problem each side wants its own way. Personally I do not support gun control but I sometimes wonder why its an all or nothing attude by the NRA

    Comment by oldie opah Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:30 am

  86. [That’s why we need a babysitter like Fitz around.]

    How about the new Democratic House launching an investigation into Scooter Libber and Dick Cheney similar to the Starr investigation? When they find something, and they will, it willl be rock pretty solid evidence that good ol Fitz is playing politics.

    Comment by The Next Move Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:30 am

  87. Granted it was a wave year, but heads up Jerry. Smart money is that Rahm is coming after you in 2008.

    Didn’t Rahm and his people organize the Duckworth campaign? If Tammy Duckworth was a good candidate, she had the resources and it was a good year for Dems, why didn’t she win?

    Could it be that the campaign plan was flawed?

    Compare Seals’ performance to Duckworth’s? Compare Cegelis’ performance in 2004 to Duckworth’s in 2006? Who exceeded expectations? Who failed to meet expectations?

    I don’t think Rahm Emanuel’s acumen as a campaigner has any Illinois Republican trembling in his or her shoes if s/he’s not an octogenarian alcoholic.

    Comment by Carl Nyberg Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:36 am

  88. 23 eyes, where did Rauschy move? Didn’t he move into Hasterts and out of Hyde’s district? As the dems have shown, it doens’t matter where you live…just run.

    Comment by Wumpus Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:42 am

  89. Lovie’s Leather is right, where does Schock go? LaHood is only 60 and could serve for at least 10 more years. Dems, particularly from Chicago, will have a lock on statewide offices given the inroads they’ve made into the collar counties.

    It’s a shame because Schock has solid African-American backing in Peoria. The silver lining is that if the climate changes in 10 years he’ll be just 35.

    Comment by Tom Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:50 am

  90. To Litte Egypt, thanks for taking my bet on the Gov race and the 17th Street payoff (although I would always prefer the world HQ in Murphy to the Marion location).

    Do me a favor and take your son who is home from Iraq and treat him to the ribs instead. Have him wear his uniform, or at least something identifying him as a solider — I be he gets a standing ovation, which would appropriate.

    Comment by Little Egypt Native Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:51 am

  91. Carl -

    Duckworth lost in the end because Peter Roskam is, to give him full credit, a very skilled and hard-working campaigner who worked this election to the last. Against a lesser opponent, Duckworth would have won. Roskam would have thumped Cegelis.

    Jerry Weller isn’t giving me the Roskam-vibes recently. And now that he doesn’t have incumbent-majority status to run on, either, all I’m saying is he better spend more time in his district between now and 2008.

    Comment by ZC Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:09 pm

  92. Schock is a big fish in a small pond. Dan Rutherford found out what happens when you get into deep waters.

    My commentary on what Whitney’s 10% will mean is over at Illinoize.

    I think all of the political junkies misread Whitney and the Green Party big time. 10% of the vote spending less than $40,000 tells me that a substantial part of the electorate cares enough about reform to “throw away” their votes, or withhold them.

    Comment by Yellow Dog Democrat Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:14 pm

  93. I am very pleased with the huge Democratic wins last night. Especially, the House and Senate. Congratulations to all of them.

    The day after the election is the honeymoon period for me so I wish the Governor well. My hope is that he distances himself from the money guys and replaces them with positive production guys. I have always liked him but thought he was led astray-I hope not too far.

    Women ruled the day. They came out with an anti-Republican zealousness. If you were a Republican you were not getting their vote. Many City North and Northwest side precincts were carrying Todd Stroger squarely on the backs of women. Don’t mess with the ladies.

    Finally, what is up with Peraica’s storming of the Bastille? What goofy third world delusional thoughts run through that round head of his? Can you imagine if he actually won?

    Comment by Garp Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:14 pm

  94. Well, Tom, if LaHood gets the itch to run for Gov in 10, Schock could make his case. Perhaps he could run against Durbin, lol

    Comment by Wumpus Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:18 pm

  95. Rich, last night’s election coverage was more than bizarre. It was FARCE. I’ve never laughed so hard on an election night. The dimwitted nattering nabobs who inhabit anchor and analyst chairs on the Chicago networks are a hoot. Not a single soul-with the possible exception of a somewhat befuddled Carol Marin-knows anything about the process, votes, polls, geography… The Peraica pitchfork and torch parade through the dark Loop in search of Frankenstein should have been exposed as farce. Without any real local political knowledge or sources, the TV media totally relies on the flawed vote tabulation machinery deployed by the County and City Boards of Election, That’s the story. Now get on it will ya!

    Comment by Punley Dieter Finn Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:18 pm

  96. I am thinking, with Jones having a veto-proof majority and Madigan a strong lock on the House, What do they need the Governor for? I did not see the Gov’s campaign co-chairmen on the stage with him for the victory speech… Even Quinn looked like he was trying to stand as far to the side as possible.

    I’m thinking Mike and Emil are going to run the state for the next four years and Blago can buckle-up, put his hair-helmet on, and enjoy the ride on the bus… or under it. Distancing from Blago would be wise in any case, as the “scandal vortex” ™ will swallow any and all within range of him.

    Comment by Gregor Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:33 pm

  97. Rauschenberger and Lauzen could each run for Hastert’s seat, but I think Lauzen would do better. Though to me, he gives the impression of a clueless pretty boy, voters seem to be enamored with him–he is a very nice guy. Lauzen won reelection by a landslide and has Aurora roots, and I think Aurora is key to that district.

    Mike Noland’s victory over Billie Roth is notable. Elgin–and for that matter, all land east of the Fox River–is no longer GOP territory. Billie Roth blamed her poor showing on the fact that Democrats had an advantage in this election, but I think her campaign was poorly run. It was evident that she hasn’t really run a campaign in 13 years, while Noland has been running every two years, and finally with the major cash infusion from Emil Jones (Noland in all raised $550,000) he won office.

    Some voters may have voted for Noland just so they don’t have to look at his yard signs for six years, though!

    Surprising was that Kane County Republicans voted for Jack Cunningham. The criticism leveled at Chicago Democrats for tolerating corruption should also be leveled at Kane County Republicans for tolerating the employment of felons and apparent nepotism. Cunningham, known to be something of an absentee clerk, will enjoy spending his $85,000 clerk’s salary and benefits at the marina. Congratulations, Kane County Republicans.

    Since enough Kane County Republicans voted for Democrat Pat Perez to make him sheriff, they weren’t voting for Cunningham just because he was a Republican. I guess he smooth-talked a lot of people or voters just didn’t like Annie Collins AT ALL. And you can’t really blame them for that.

    If Kane County Republicans want to retain the edge they have now, they should force Cunningham to fire his felon, because it taints the whole party.

    Comment by elginarea Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:37 pm

  98. wumpus,
    Denny and more exactly Dallas Ingenumuson will not turn over the 14th to anyone that they cannot trust. Rauschy may be on their list, but he’s not at the top. Dallas needs to be sure he can control that district

    Comment by 23eyes Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:37 pm

  99. I have to call on state GOP party chairman Andy McKenna to resign. Ultimately this guy didn’t have a clue what he was doing to have completely and totally botched a golden opportunity to retake the governors mansion with a governor that was very vulerable to defeat. This coupled with the fact that Democrat swept all statewide offices by such huge double-digit margins and Democrats increased their majorities in the state house and senate. If conservativism in politics is going to make any sort of comeback in Illinois, someone new has to be appointed to that position who will actually push good conservative candidates instead of country-clubbers who are GOP in name only but vote and govern like liberals.

    Comment by Crimefighter Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:42 pm

  100. I am a Republican. I accept the results of what just took place. The people have spoken and hopefully my party was listening. The gist of what I have been told by many of my fellow GOP voters is that many of them chose to vote for the Green Party candidate and others simply voted for the Democrat candidate because they felt the GOP Party needed an enema. The GOP Party at a national level permeated their decision making at the state level as well.

    Yes, the Iraq war was a portion of it but it goes much farther than that. GOP national leadership symbolized “arrogance” to the voter and the scent of “entitlement” permeated the air when people went to cast their vote at the polls yesterday.

    The GOP voters saw a “smug” George Bush with that ever present smirk on his face as he talked about his friend “Kenny Boy”when they went into the voting booth. Meanwhile, tens of thousands in the nation have lost their pensions and jobs due to corporate fraud that had been allowed to go unchecked and unpunished.
    Dick Cheney was in my fellow GOP voters minds as they thought of their sons and daughters fighting overseas in a country where we were ill-advised to have gone in the first place. Rumsfeldt’s and Cheney’s arrogance weighed heavily on the voter’s decision to vote for the opposition party’s candidates.

    Will the GOP learn from this humbling experience? I doubt that it will happen unless the well-entrenched GOP party leaders in power (both on a national and state level) step down or are swept from power. Judy Barr Topinka sure had name recognition but that came back to haunt her. GOP Voters wanted someone fresh, not someone recycled. Hopefully, John Kass is correct and this might be the bitter medicine that the Republican Party needed to swallow to get their feet back on the ground and their heads out of the clouds.

    And, life goes on.

    Comment by Beowulf Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:49 pm

  101. 23 eyes,

    If you are correct, Lauzen has no shot…Dallas and he are arch-enemies. But let’s face it, Dallas can’t be the power broker forever. Heck, he couldn’t even get his kid elected as KC State’s Attorney.

    There are some local Republicans who I’ve talked to who wouldn’t mind sending Lauzen to DC, just to get him out of their hair. He might have a problem beating a more likeable and influential Tom Cross in a primary, or a more likeable and changing-demographic-friendly Linda Chapa LaVia in the general, though.

    Comment by Six Degrees of Separation Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:50 pm

  102. Hey Six,
    I agree with you, but DO NOT underestimate the “man behind the curtain”. Dallas is KC’s version of Daley.

    Comment by 23eyes Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 12:57 pm

  103. The Cook County Board President race reflects the fundamental change going on in the Chicago suburbs. Peraica ran relatively well in the City (for a Republican), with over 30%. His surprisingly low margin in the burbs was the difference, just over 60%.

    Comment by Bubs Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 1:05 pm

  104. As Prez of the FTPC, I would simply like to say…

    …I’m sleepy.

    And, yay, Todd won!

    Two interesting points:

    1) Todd was hated in the media and ran a three-month campaign. He was trashed about everything from the handling of his dad’s stroke, having his dad’s last name, having to defend his father’s name, and just all around being a “Stroger.”

    Tony got every break, was roundly loved by the media and assisted in every possible by every Republican, turn-coat Dem, newspaper columnist and editorial board (come on, now, did you really believe the Sun-Times?). Despite behavior resembling Dr. Evil at every turn, he couldn’t lose.

    And then…he lost. And he can’t believe it. And I’m loving it.

    2) That said, if you think the campaign was nasty, you have four years of the nastiest, ugliest, meanest, dirtiest politics you have seen since Council Wars beginning next month.

    Get your popcorn!

    Comment by Prez of the FTPC Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 1:18 pm

  105. -Crimefighter:

    Do you honestly think a conservative Republican could win statewide office?! They would have lost to Rod by 20% the future of the GOP in Illinois isn’t to retreat to the right, but more to the center…Until we as party realize that the Dems will keep trouncing us…

    Comment by ISU REP Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 1:21 pm

  106. Bubs:

    You can put all the perfume on the pig that you want, but in the end, Peraica got smoked and is 21 precincts away from losing his District seat to Gomolinski! Why is he running so poorly in his own district a Republican district? Tony is transparent and the voters who have been exposed to him reject him. Why is that? The same thing happened in the Primary.

    To Punley: The statement “The Peraica pitchfork and torch parade through the dark Loop in search of Frankenstein should have been exposed as farce” was the funniest thing I read on this blog is a while! Thanks for the laugh.

    Comment by Caveat Eligorum Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 1:25 pm

  107. It’s not that the electorate is ignoring the corruption and scandals as several people have implied, it’s just that both sides of the aisle are corrupt and scandalous. So the question is do you support a corrupt Democrat or a corrupt Republican. It’s like a math equation where the corruption on either side of the equation cancels itself out. And believe me, if the Green Party were ever to gain power, they would become corrupt too. The rules of the game almost require it in order to be elected. What a depressing thought.

    Comment by Demolican/Republicrat/Whatever Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 1:31 pm

  108. Several dispassionate observations:
    1. Winning the election does not make Federal investigations go away.
    2. History tells us that politics is cyclical.
    3. The only reason Tammy duckworth was not able to ride the Democrat tide is that she may look just a little too much like Roseanne Barr.
    4. The true economic condition of the State of Illinois has not improved in the last few days. The pension disaster is still looming on the horizon.
    5. It won’t be much fun to be a Republican Senator or Rep for the next 2 years.

    Comment by one of the 35 Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 1:37 pm

  109. LaHood would get trounced as a gubernatorial candidate, so I don’t see him vacating his seat for Schock anytime soon. LaHood is a big fish in Peoria, but statewide he’s still a small fish. He’s an unengaging campaigner and not the most prolific fundraiser, has no real political base except his geographic one, and would start with 5% name ID.

    Lisa Madigan would eat Ray LaHood with breakfast, not for breakfast.

    Right now, I think Mark Kirk is probably the best candidate the GOP could look to for 2010. I’m betting his next two years in the minority won’t be a picnic, and he might find himself on the target list anyway if Rahm puts his personal friendship with Kirk aside. If Kirk quits his Congressional seat, he’d have two years as a fulltime candidate to travel the state and secure the nomination.

    Comment by Yellow Dog Democrat Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 1:47 pm

  110. The increase in the number of votes that Whitney received compared to the 3rd party candidate in 2002 would have been enough to put JBT into the lead (a 268,000 increase). If the GOP had a even a marginal candidate I think most of those would have went to the GOP along with probably a few % of those who ended up holding their nose and voting for Blago, such as myself.

    Comment by anon Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 1:47 pm

  111. Anon:

    Marginal candidate? The only statewide officeholder ran, perhaps if Jesus Christ ran he might have had a chance, but with the cook county machine he still would have lost by 6%..

    Comment by ISU REP Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 1:55 pm

  112. Is Denny going now? A special election is a different deal than two years out. Another consideration is the junior member of the minority team might have problems come redistricting time.

    Comment by HappyToaster Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:12 pm

  113. ISU REP — When have they RAN a conservative candidate? The conservative candidates run for the nomination and the state GOP won’t get behind them and keep nominating unelectable moderate/liberal country clubbers. The last conservative that won office is Peter Fitzgerald in the Senate, I wished he’d had run for reelection or governor.

    Comment by Crimefighter Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:12 pm

  114. Lauzen couldn’t get elected out of his district. Too many people know the man for who he is. I am still betting Cross is way more likely to run for Governor than 14th district. Don’t forget some of these guys have families they may not want to relocate or be away from all the time. As far as I know Hastert won last night and this discussion is premature.

    Comment by curious Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:22 pm

  115. Turn-out turn-out you need that to win.Plus the cause on the national level moved down to local.The Dems can say what they want a percentage was Bush,Iraq and our party not showing up.When the factions in our party quit thinking their cause is the only one and some of the old guard swallows some pride and admits they could be part of the problem then steps aside we will win again.We need to get ready because there is no doubt in my mind that the Blago house of cards will crumble.There is no way he can get done all he wants done for free.The state is almost broke and Madigan will not let him rain on Lisa’s parade.SO GET OVER IT.Let’s prepare for our time.

    Comment by DOWNSTATE Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:25 pm

  116. One of my favorite scenes this election…watching the overweight and underworked officeholders of cook county pour into the Allegro Hotel (the old Bismarck for all you old timers out there) to get as close to Toddler as they could. There was Bill Beavers smokinng right down the block. Surely he was within 20 feet of numerous entrances. Then there was Ed Burke who was driven the one block along with two armed undercover police officers (so why again does the City Finance Committee chair get a car & two cops on city time?). I could go on and on, but you get the idea. The county = jobs, these pols were never going to let that be taken away from them.

    Comment by Niles Township Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:32 pm

  117. This press conference was just held (see post above).

    Comment by Niles Township Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:33 pm

  118. Hello Bill. As of late last night, Williamson and Franklin counties had gone for Blago. I don’t know what the final tally is because I’m really off the election right now and thinking of tomorrow when Little Little Egypt has to fly back to Baghdad.

    To Little Egypt Native, I’m glad I had the ribs Sunday night. I don’t think they would have tasted as good last night. And for the suggestion of treating our son, we did that Monday night in Louisville at the Outback. Interesting story. When he changed planes in Atlanta (in uniform), as he and other uniformed military were walking through the concourse, he said hundreds of people reached out to shake their hands and thank them for their service to our country. Others just gave them a thunderous, continuous applause. That’s the America I love.

    Congrats to all of you Blue Crew. I will lick my wounds and maybe in 4 years be ready for another go-round, but probably with a little less fight in me.

    Comment by Little Egypt Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:35 pm

  119. What an incredible debacle for the Senate GOP. This has to go down as the worst tactical and strategic use of caucus resources in modern legislative history. Emil ran circles around them. SGOP plowed millions into Peoria (40-60%) and Demuzio (40-60%) and Syverson(60-40%) while losing razor thin races elsewhere. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING! Worse, with suburban GOP seats wiped out, Frank get’s re-elected.

    Comment by PILING ON! Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:45 pm

  120. This is a good lesson for Illinois’ GOP candidates that they are all rowing the same boat. It has been the trend over the past few elections that they refuse to work together under some pretense that the other campaign will somehow bring down the candidates. It was clear that the Democrats were energized and they all worked together. Wake up Republicans and drop the egos. Otherwise, concede to the fact that you will be doomed to minority status for eternity.

    Comment by oh well Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 2:58 pm

  121. Hastert has serious health issue. Look at the man for christ’s sake. He needs to take care of himself. He has served our nation and the 14th well. Prediction: he never takes the oath in January. He resigns before he regrets it.

    Comment by tootough Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:00 pm

  122. Gee, what will the electorate think when the flood of corruption, scandals and indictments washes over their proudly elected crew?

    Comment by Buck Flagojevich Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:07 pm

  123. I’m laughing so hard at what
    Demolican/Republicrat/Whatever said.

    “It’s like a math equation where the corruption on either side of the equation cancels itself out.”

    Perhaps it should be more like in physics where matter/anti-matter collide (evil grin).

    Comment by Angie Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:14 pm

  124. Crimefighter:

    I’m pretty sure Keyes was as conservative as they get…A republican candidate who is progun, antigay and prolife won’t win in Illinois…It’s simple math…Moderate is the way of the future unless we just want to keep handing seats to Madigan and Jones…

    Comment by ISU REP Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:35 pm

  125. Buck, I have the answer to your question:

    Nothing, because they’re too stupid. They’ll drool a little, then go back to watching “reality” TV. Products of our quality education system, run by the Democrats. An infinite supply of brain-dead votes.

    See, the dead really do vote in Illinois!

    Comment by Metro-east survivor Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:43 pm

  126. Jim Oberweis is selected to replace Dennis Hastert…

    Comment by Frank Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:44 pm

  127. ISU REP — Keyes wasn’t an Illinois resident. I’d rather not figure him into the equation. Unfortunately from what I’ve seen the past couple elections is the GOP moderates have been consistently losing in this state because the conservative base just is not gonna vote for them. They need to turn back to the principals of Ronald Reagan if they are gonna turn their woes around. And I don’t want theming wait until Illinois government completely collapses into bankruptcy under the Democratic administration to do it.

    Comment by Crimefighter Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:52 pm

  128. Little Egypt, it’s because of kids like your son we can be on this blog. God bless him. I’m not surprised but very glad to hear about the reaction he received in the airport. Keep all of us posted on how he’s doing, ok?

    All the best, LEN

    Comment by Little Egypt Native Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:55 pm

  129. Downstate….you have a laptop you’re blogging on from the truck? I bet you’re out there pulling down Topinka signs and shaggin home runs today huh?

    Comment by Confused Republican Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 3:57 pm

  130. Done that early this morning.Back to work tonite needed a little sleep,back to real world.Our guys have down a real good job of cleaning up can’t say that for the opposing team.

    Comment by DOWNSTATE Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 4:09 pm

  131. To those who are asking how people could possibly have voted for Blago, here is how I see it - the believe Blago is corrupt. They have no reason to believe JBT would be any less corrupt. They look at the policies each is likely to put in place, the things they are going to do in terms of health care, education, jobs etc….they prefer Blago’s ideas. They have no idea what JBT’s ideas even are. They hold their noses and vote for Blago. Faced with two bad choices better the devil you know and whose policies you agree with than the devil you don’t know who will work for god knows what.

    Comment by Way Northsider Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 4:23 pm

  132. Caveat Eligorum-

    The same thing happened all right, a group of so-called Republicans, fearing Peraica, tried to defeat him, this time with help from the Dems. It didn’t work again.

    Too bad Maureen lost, huh?

    Caveat Proditor.

    Comment by Bubs Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 4:29 pm

  133. Yellow Dog Democrat, “I think all of the political junkies misread Whitney and the Green Party big time. 10% of the vote spending less than $40,000…”

    Greens are extremely efficient with money. Can you imagine how well we would do if we even spent half of what the Democrats and Republicans do?

    Comment by Squideshi Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 4:38 pm

  134. Thoughts on the Duckworth loss: (1) she was a poor candidate, although she had decent credentials, tons of money- and all the endorsements; (2) Roskam’s constant lies about giving Social Security benefits to illegal aliens were very effective (as Repug lies usually are, since they appeal to racial issues); (3) Tammy’s people rather amazingly did not play up her war service and injuries- I’ve met several people who had heard of her but did not know she’d been injured in Iraq; for example, the campaign never used the picture on Wikipedia of her in her wheelchair with her prostheses visible; (4) the racial issue (Tammy’s dad is white, her mom is not) was ignored, and should have been countered with a heavy emphasis on her military service; (5) to answer Carl’s question from above- it looks like Tammy will end up with about 25,000 fewer votes than Cegelis got running against Hyde in 2004 (true, that was a presidential election year with a higher overall turnout); (6) Tammy’s people had a lot of yard signs and had lots of volunteers doing door-to-door work- I had four visits to my house in the last week, including one about noon on election day; (7) Rahm and his pals installed Tammy over the wishes of Dem voters in this district, and although he deserves lots of credit for the national accomplishment, rolling over Cegelis (who received zero national Dem support in 2004) for someone who lived outside the district will be hard to forget. Too many commenters on this blog dump on Cegelis for no good reason. She was an inspiration to Dems living in DuPage after so many years of only nominal candidates losing to the awful Mr. Hyde. So sorry, ZC, but you are wrong: we will never know what would have happened had she run against Roskam.

    Comment by Max Maxwell Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 4:48 pm

  135. While I agree that the way they went about it was dumb, Peraica’s people had a reason to be upset. Why were Stroger’s people there where the votes were being counted but Peraica’s were not let in until 20 minutes later, as reported? Was it because of a special relationship between Stroger’s staff and David Orr’s people?

    Mike Flannery asked the wrong questions late last night.

    Comment by super inside Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:00 pm

  136. About Schock: I realize it’s way too soon for him to be a force of any kind statewide. That’s at least 10, 15, maybe 20 years down the road. I’m just saying he must be doing something right to have successfully bucked the current popular distaste for the GOP. LaHood has hinted he won’t stay in Congress forever, but there’s no way of knowing how long “forever” will turn out to be… at least 2, maybe 6 or 8 years at his age.

    Comment by 'Lainer Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:15 pm

  137. I don’t know what all the fuss is about with you repubs. You should be happy that Rod didn’t raise your taxes over the last four years and that he reduced the size of state government by eliminating 10,000 jobs. Apparently the 27yrs of repub. control bloated the payroll somewhat. For those of you who say the dems. now control every thing in this state, where have you been for the last 4yrs.the voters apparently approve of dem. leadership. The biggest losers in the election was the ASKME union who think they run the state.Lets see how long it takes for them to start asking for more tax dollars for doing very little. The dems. should do away with bargaining for public employees.

    Comment by Eileen Left Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:15 pm

  138. What we know is that Mr. Peraica and the people he came over to Orr’s office with weren’t allowed up for 20+ minutes. What we don’t know is if Mr. Peraica already had someone else there. I would imagine they did. I’ve heard in the past that Mr. Orr allows representatives of each major candidate to monitor returns from the office. Being that it’s a governmental office I find it hard to believe that he would exclude representatives of one candidate yet allow another’s in. Besides, how would Mr. Peraica know there were issues (unless they were covered on TV) unless one of his own people called him and told him about them. I suspect we’re not getting the complete picture here.

    Comment by Ron Burgundy Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:19 pm

  139. Roskam was up against the perfect storm– something that can never ever be repeated, and he still won. You gotta hand it to him.

    Comment by Tedbaxter Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:29 pm

  140. Kudos to both Republican and Democrat volunteers, who went out to support their candidates’campaigns. I always shied away from political issues until I became the Walking Wounded. Once I started attending fundraisers and got to know my candidate, I was having the time of my life. No, the election did not go as I’d hoped, but I’ve made friends and even got to learn a thing or two from Rich’s bloggers.
    Congratulations to Bill, Silverback and their peers. I hardly ever agree with you, but you have my respect (well, most of the time) :-)

    Comment by Walking Wounded Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:37 pm

  141. Super Inside-

    Just to keep the record straight, while many people who marched with Tony Peraica to the building were not let in, Republican Election Judges and observers were in the counting room at Election Central from the start.

    But those judges recorded a range of disturbing items, from potential holes in the chain of custody of the physical computer disks containing electronic results from the precincts; to missing results disks from precincts, that were not in the “sealed” bag from the precinct as listed on the outside of the “sealed” bag (which was expained away as the missing disk was “probably left behind at the precinct”); to admissions by County election personnnel that many of the bags with results disks “sealed” at the precincts were unsealed and opened in an attempt to transmit the electronic results from intermediary “Receiving Stations”; to a Democratic election laywer being present as a “lobbyist” for the electronic polling system vendor; to finding a precinct results disk lying on the floor under a cart, nowhere near the actual counting area.

    Whether any of this would change the result can be debated, given Stroger’s sizable lead, but what cannot be debated was that this election process was just as bad a debacle as was forcast, if not worse.

    It is hoped that people can now see why Peraica marched as he did last night. He should have.

    Comment by Bubs Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:39 pm

  142. Despite the demise of the Republicans and the Greens just starting to gain traction, the Democrats still have three formidable opponents:

    1) Themselves — How will Blago and Jones interact given Jones’ veto-proof majority?

    2) Illinois’ fiscal state — It’s entirely the Dems’ show now, no more Repub. bogeymen left to blame.

    2) The US Attorney’s Office — They’re all over Chicago, Cook, and Springfield

    Comment by Tom Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:41 pm

  143. One more thought, if I may; Little Egypt, glad to know there are other bloggers out there who share my opinion and sometimes posts what I’m thinking. Hope everything goes well and safe for little Little Egypt.

    Comment by Walking Wounded Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:41 pm

  144. Crimefighter, dream on. Fitzgerald won his U.S. Senate seat because of the incompetence of the incumbent. When it came time for him to run for re-election, he chickened out because he knew his incompetence had caught up with him.

    Comment by Norseman Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:43 pm

  145. Bubs:

    Did I miss something or are there still 19 precincts out in the 16th district? Gomolinski is still in this unless you have better figures than the rest of us. And why are you so fixated on Maureen Murphy? You must have shed a bit-o-tears today as you culled all of the $100k plus jobs that just slipped through your fingers.

    Come next week, when Peraica is back to being a nobody, I’ll miss seeing your posts on this blog. Adios muchacho.

    Comment by Caveat Eligorum Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 5:47 pm

  146. It’s fun to read all the comments here after the election…lot of arm chair quarterbacks got it wrong, yet can’t seem to face that fact. Some of you may want to be careful patting yourself on the back.

    Comment by Schill Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:00 pm

  147. Garp: Third world production? This election looked like something going on in Nicaragua or Cuba. Everyone corrupt in some way, all winners smiling in their sharkskin shiny suits, all the sychophants kissing their rings. It was an embarrassment for the state of Illinois. Whatever happened to statesmen?

    Comment by Really Disgusted Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:08 pm

  148. Is it try that a sitting Gov. can’t be indicted?

    Comment by anan Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:14 pm

  149. Caveat - 19 precincts where your boy suddenly has to win 62 % of the vote to overcome his current deficit. Considering that he is at 49% overall, I have touble seeing it.

    P.S. I already have a job, thank you, and it pays more than that.

    Comment by Bubs Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:19 pm

  150. Landslide,

    You stated: “Blagojevich’s win was gigantic for the long term viability of the Democratic party because it gives Democratss 4 more years to (like Jesse White has) embed their folks into State government and establish them as the subject matter “experts” who posess the “institutional knowledge” (and are legally protected from termination).”

    What about people who are currently in these positions. I wonder if Peter F. is reading this blog. This is a prime example of continued planned corruption in the hiring process. Both parties have to learn that state government needs experienced individuals, and not just political hacks.

    I hope the Governor, his staff and appointees finally decide to administer the state, and not focus on the ongoing promotion of the Governor (as we have seen in the past 4 years). I also predict that the Governor and some of his staff will be indicted within the next year or two. I can just see some of the campaign ads in future elections. They just need to dust off the ads from the 2006 elections.

    The Republican Party needs to rebuild itself; but, it cannot allow the extreme conservatives to control the party. Please remember there was a very conservative group (I cannot remember the name) that encouraged conservative voters to stay at home). They want to control the party after the moderates such as Judy lost the election.

    Finally, the Green Party should not celebrate yet. Most of the votes they received were in protest of the other two parties. Time will tell if the Green Party becomes more accepted and established in Illinois. It all depends on the near future of the Democratic Party and Republican Party in Illinois.

    People in Illinois (and throughout the U.S.) are tired of the political bickering. They want results.

    Comment by So Blue Democrat Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:34 pm

  151. According to the Cook County Clerk’s website, with 92.83% counted, it says that Peraica leads Stroger 61-39%.

    Anyone find this interesting? You can find it here:

    http://www.voterinfonet.com/results/110706/SummaryElection110706RaceNum0083.html?Party=ALL

    Comment by Cook Swindle? Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:36 pm

  152. I too was disturbed by Landslide’skey source of excitement was that they can take away GOP jobs.

    Comment by Wumpus Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:40 pm

  153. Eileen Left,

    My, My, I cannot belive a fellow Democrat is proud of eliminating 10,000 jobs. Is this due to the perception that all state workers are Republicans? You are also advocating the elimination of collective bargaining for a major employer in Illinois. You sound like a very conservative Republican. This would be political suicide for the Democratic Party in Illinois.

    Comment by So Blue Democrat Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:51 pm

  154. Bubs:

    62% is not out of the question. That’s a mere 12% better than he tracked all day and seeing that 5 of the 19 precincts are in Lyons Township, I’d say that he could easily make that difference up. Did you factor in the 216 votes Gomolinski received in the City?

    Also, I enjoyed Caveat Proditor. Very witty!

    Prediction: Gomolinski wins by 125 votes.

    Comment by Caveat Eligorum Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 6:59 pm

  155. At least proditor is an actual word in Latin.

    Comment by Bubs Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:09 pm

  156. Bubs:

    So is eligorum. It means “voters”. I should know, I took four years of Latin at Fenwick and three at Miami of Ohio.

    Comment by Caveat Eligorum Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:23 pm

  157. It looks like Topinka won most of the counties. And Blagojevich won most of the densely populated ones. Cook, Lake, Will, to name a few. Looking at counties it seems lopsided, but it’s the number of actual voted that count more than anything.

    Comment by Levois Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:24 pm

  158. So Levois, you’re saying that Blagojevich won the important ones? “snark added”

    Comment by Caveat Eligorum Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:26 pm

  159. Little Egypt. God Speed and Thanks to little Little Egypt. From a Saluki alum and 17th Street Fan in central Illinois. Oh well we lost. Now Milo is talking about gun control again. What did he say in Sparta? Gee I guess more donations to the NRA and DU are in the future. All I can say is “Go Fitz Go! Go Fitz Go!”

    Comment by Whizbang Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:28 pm

  160. That’s a simple way of putting it.

    Comment by Levois Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:32 pm

  161. In preparation for the ‘08 & ‘10 elections, the Illinois GOP really needs to reach out to suburban moderate Republicans and conservative Democrats. The recent show of Chicago/Cook County dominance evidences this. For the GOP, the ideal electable candidates would be moderates who possess no baggage, perceived or otherwise. This is inline with prevailing ideologies and the probable presidential candidate (and winner?) McCain. The Illinois GOP cannot go conservative as long as the party is in its current sad state.

    Comment by Darth Avenus Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:33 pm

  162. Man, losing Cook by 460,000 some votes would be hard for anyone to overcome.

    I subtracted the totals from Cook for both candidates from the total votes cast state wide and got JBT 1,093,974 and Blago 856,435. If only we could get rid of cook county. :)

    Comment by Shelbyville Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:37 pm

  163. Hello it’s JakeCP and I have to say that overall I am dissapointed with the results however these are teh good things: Bean got re elected, Roskham beat Duckworth, Kirk beat Seals and Judy Biggert in. It’s very sad to see that the Illinois Government will soon be making deals with the mob and our governor is oing to be Pat Quinn. The ILGOP needs to get thee stuff together. These candidates that run inprimaries (like Jim Oberweis) needs to stop getting so bitter and just facethe fact that this is not a right winged state and neither will you convince anyone here to be right winged. Why didn’t Oberweis donate heavily to Topinka so that she could air her commercials and beat Blago at his own game? So what if Oberweis endorsed Topinka he still could’ve helped her out some more. The problem with republicans in Illinois is that you’re either a Republican-Conservative or Republican-Liberal and those two types of republicans don’t get along too well. Maybe in the next governor’s election Tony Peraica (he he he) will run for governor.

    Comment by Dissapointed Independent Conservative Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:42 pm

  164. Shelbyville,
    It is an old joke but without Cook County you’d be Iowa.
    Best wishes to the Little e family.

    Comment by Bill Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 7:45 pm

  165. As a Republican, having the Dems win absolutely everything in the state could be a good thing. Here’s why.

    The Dems now have absolutely no one to blame for anything other than themselves. The Dems are now on total defense and the Reps are on total offense. There was a famous statement by LBJ about, uh, a bodily function.

    He said he would rather have them on this inside ******* out than on the outside ******* in.

    Go ahead Dems - solve all the State problems today. Good luck. We will be waiting for your problems to creep up.

    Comment by DRB Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:08 pm

  166. It’s hard to say who has more egg on their face, the press for falling for the idea that Peraica was some kind of reformer who ever had a chance, or Peraica for his Howard Dean like speechifying.

    This Peraica guy showed everyone that he’s nothing but a buffoon. Inciting a bunch of inebriated supporters and goons to storm the county building was completely irresponsible.

    If there were votes stolen in that election, it was Peraica’s people who were trying to steal them. Hopefully we’ll be seeing more of that video tape of his drunk supporters putting campaign stickers on boxes of sealed poll materials and starting scuffles.

    Peraica just set the GOP in Cook County back another 30 years.

    Comment by geez Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:15 pm

  167. Oberweis could hav eonly hurt things. The more he speaks, the dumber I realize he is, politically. I believe he says what he wants people to hear, then backs off when the going gets rough. The whole “Got Straws” issue will never allow me to vote for him. Then he goes out and listens to Jack Roesser.

    Comment by Wumpus Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:23 pm

  168. Just got back from Chicago. Last night was a great night for the people of Illinois. Looking forward to the next four years.
    It was great seeing the support that informed voters gave to Governor Blagojevich and the next Treasurer of Illinois, Alexi Giannoulias, as well as the all of the Democrats running.
    Last I saw Alexi had won by 11%. Pretty good for a guy who some of the talking heads said wouldn’t make it to the general election.

    Comment by (618) Democrat Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:27 pm

  169. Why should Oberweis have to give heavily to Topinka only? How about Gidwitz? How about Brady (who gave Judy a lot more than Money in the primary… try the election!)? Hell, how about Andy Martin? They all got money!

    Comment by Frank Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:31 pm

  170. Also, had the guys did the “Got Straws” thing, maybe, we’d have a Republican elected as Governor… the winner of the Got Straws would’ve faced Topinka and the others were to throw their support behind the winner… Looking back, the Got Straws is looking better every hour.

    Comment by Frank Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:33 pm

  171. Bill, I’d rather we were Iowa, without Cook County. Maybe I’ll move there.

    Comment by Hoss Cartwright Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:34 pm

  172. Frank I didn’t say that they shouldn’t. I was just trying to point out a problem that the ILGOP has. You are right how come Andy martin and all of them wouldn’t donate heavily to Topinka?

    Comment by Dissapointed Independent Conservative Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:48 pm

  173. the 2006 campaign spot i could watch over & over…”Ricky, get off my Trans Am!”

    Comment by cool hand c Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:56 pm

  174. Okay Hoss, seeya!

    Comment by Bill Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:59 pm

  175. Hoss,Have a good time in your new State.

    Comment by (618) Democrat Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:21 pm

  176. Hey, for any disappointed JBT supporters, I have a little idea. Find the counties where more support went to the GOP moderate and do more of your shopping/errand-running stuff THERE.

    I hear the scenery is gorgeous in DuPage County!!!

    LOL

    Comment by Angie Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:33 pm

  177. “-bored now - Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 8:57 am:

    Well, looks like there will be a “For Sale” sign in the front yard of the mansion

    would you mind listing it with a good realtor? think of all the money the state would get in it’s sale — and save from not having to pay for upkeep! what a deal for illinois taxpayers!”

    I bet the guv can think of a realtor to use, somein real close to home.

    Comment by Concerned Voter Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:36 pm

  178. Angie,
    Good idea. From looking at the Tribune’s map, it seems there are plenty of counties supporting GOP
    candidates. Going to McLean County soon for my shopping adventures. Thank God the elections are over. Now we can look forward to whatever Patrick Fitz. has to offer.

    Comment by Walking Wounded Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:39 pm

  179. “- ZC - Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:19 am:

    On the warning side for Illinois Republicans … Jerry Weller ran against a lightly-funded, inexperienced Democrat (”There are more important things than the price of corn!”) who got very little media attention, and Weller got only 55% of the vote.

    Granted it was a wave year, but heads up Jerry. Smart money is that Rahm is coming after you in 2008.”

    Don’t know about the lightly funded part, saw lots of ads for Pavich, I live in that area and we got tons of mailings for Pavich, and lots of phone calls too.

    A side note, would all the campaigns on both sides please not bother to call on election day.

    Comment by Concerned Voter Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:45 pm

  180. Sun Times:
    Jackson Jr., Gutierrez won’t run for mayor

    Comment by HappyToaster Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:50 pm

  181. The machine ain’t what it used to be but it still can produce victories. Remember those that walk the precincts are still better than those that use the mails. Until the repub’s can begin to field real grass roots organizations it will just get worse.

    Comment by theole precinct captain Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 9:50 pm

  182. Eileen Left sounds like she just took a few pages out of Wendell Cox’s playbook for handling public sector employment. Hint: he does not “lean left”.

    Comment by Six Degrees of Separation Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:12 pm

  183. For Republicans, I think the issue is less conservatism vs. moderate-ism than it is about the dearth of charismatic, likeable candidates.

    Ronald Reagan would win in Illinois. What we need to do is find a Ronald Reagan.

    Topinka just did not have the looks, the appearance, the charisma…

    Comment by ilgop Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 10:23 pm

  184. Re: “From looking at the Tribune’s map, it seems there are plenty of counties supporting GOP
    candidates. Going to McLean County soon for my shopping adventures.”

    I’m technically on the edge of Cook, a couple of minutes from where DuPage begins, so I’m pleased that I at least got to put a tiny dent in the Cook County vote that mostly went to Rod. And honey, you KNOW I’ll be at Oak Brook and not the city at Christmastime! lol

    “Thank God the elections are over. Now we can look forward to whatever Patrick Fitz.”

    I hope both the IL and national GOP rebuild. I’m sorry, but if they were running more folks like Giuliani, who are so uninterested in argument over the social issues, they could win big.

    Abortion, I understand the conservs don’t want their tax money supporting it (I have some respect for pro-lifers on that one, as they ought to be able to opt to not fund it, because it isn’t like building roads and providing other services, it is about deep moral/religious convictions that people argue vehemently about), but all of this silly stuff like whether Hans and Franz get to hold hands and walk down the aisle? Most of us don’t freaking care! Why is this stuff even elevated to the national level? It is nonsense.

    Pick huge issues that affect everyone, like healthcare and education, have both parties put forth two different versions of how to solve some of these issues, or improve upon what is currently going on, and then we’ll all have a choice. Who has the better idea this time around?

    Seriously, though. I think any GOP moderate was facing a bunch of voters who really just wanted to send a message to Washington, because they don’t agree with the President on Iraq and so forth.

    As for Fitz? Man, what good does it do when they only get locked up for 6 years? That’s a slap on the wrist!

    But we all had a winner. Rich Miller, our host, got a mention by the national media! Kudos, kudos, and bravo. lol

    As for all of you liberals who won big, we don’t want to hear any more complaining. You’re all happy. No k’vetching. Gotta get to work, cuz no one has put forth any real solutions. It is gonna be Improv time in America now, baby! lol

    Cheers

    Comment by Angie (to Walking Wounded) Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:19 pm

  185. How many of ya’ll are happy with the Democrats in control? Vote in my new poll that I made at jakeschicagopolitics.blogspot and vote what you think. I am just curious o see how many people here are actually happy that the DEMS are in controlling everything.

    Comment by Dissapointed Independent Conservative Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:29 pm

  186. Hey, “Hoss,” please, move to Iowa if that’s how you feel. I would never want to live in a state without a city like Chicago. I’ve seen many of the great cities of this world and Chicago ranks right up there with the best.

    People who would take politics so seriously that when they didn’t get their way in an election they’d threaten to move to Iowa, of all places, really should go.

    This is a democracy. The most important part of living in a democracy is accepting the will of the majority in elections. Minorities have rights and they should be protected, but in elections majorities rule. Period.

    Besides, didn’t Iowa just elect a Democratic governor? Maybe you should pick another state. Perhaps Indiana? Yeah, go with that one. Try being a Hoosier for a while. Perhaps that will make you happy. Good luck with that one.

    Enoy.

    Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Nov 8, 06 @ 11:52 pm

  187. Hey, “Swindle.” You’re looking at the suburban vote. Didja forget about the city?

    Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 12:01 am

  188. More and more, I have been trying to figure out a strategy for the GOP in Illinois. And to say the least, I am fairly stumped. My best idea is for the social conservatives to make a deal with the city religous blacks and the anti-machine Chicagocrats. Basically running as social conservatives and going centrist when it comes to business/labor issues and healthcare. But I think that the ILGOP has to face the facts, the days of getting 2/3 of the white vote are over. I just don’t see anyone winning in Illinois that is a true “fiscal conservative” at this point. I don’t know what else to do… any thoughts, anyone???

    Comment by Lovie's Leather Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 12:51 am

  189. I guess I would call this a “pragmatic social conservatism.”

    Comment by Lovie's Leather Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 12:54 am

  190. [Topinka just did not have the looks, the appearance, the charisma…]

    Since looks matter so much for female candidates, will someone please explain why all women don’t get to write off the cosmetics, hair, etcetera? Really. Why isn’t it all tax deductible? Next item on the agenda in Washington. Universal day spa visits!

    Now that it is all over, though, got some critique for JBT.

    Don’t insult Cub fans right before the election, and don’t call your opponents in the primary “morons.” Just don’t do it, honey. Not when you’re in the spotlight.

    Comment by Angie (re: ilgop) Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 1:01 am

  191. [ I don’t know what else to do… any thoughts, anyone???]

    Get a really hot-looking guy to run as a moderate Republican. It’ll help with the female vote, because I, too, kept listening to these little old ladies while I was doing library research, and they all thought Rod was “a looker.”

    I beg to differ, but if we can just get a cutie to run as a Republican who isn’t too conservative for most of the state to handle, that might help.

    Comment by Angie (re: Lovie's post) Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 1:11 am

  192. Well, I think Jack Ryan is available………

    Comment by Lovie's Leather Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 1:15 am

  193. 1. For the Illinois Republican Party; are you ready for someone like Bill Brady?
    2. I have to call on state GOP party chairman Andy McKenna to resign.
    3. Jim Oberweis is selected to replace Dennis Hastert…

    3 is a joke, but 1 and 2 are every bit as absurd.

    Comment by T.J. Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 4:59 am

  194. For those concerned with Hastert quitting…http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/130216,2_1_AU09_HASTERT_S1.article

    Comment by curious Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 5:04 am

  195. Lovie’s Leather — If the GOP wants to accomplish anything they will have to band together with Downstate Democrats on certain issues. Downstate Dems aren’t thrilled that all the state’s power is concentrated in one corner, and they love to tell their constituents they “stood up to Chicago.”

    Comment by Tom Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 7:35 am

  196. So Blue Democrat wrote, “Finally, the Green Party should not celebrate yet. Most of the votes they received were in protest of the other two parties. Time will tell if the Green Party becomes more accepted and established in Illinois.”

    I disagree. The Democratic and Republican parties have written so many advantages into the election law for so-called “established” parties, that they’ve just granted tremendous power to the Illinois Green Party. Those same laws that protected the establishment will not be protecting the Green Party.

    For example, Greens will have a primary, so they will be guaranteed to be on the ballot months earlier. That means that they will be taken seriously and get media coverage MUCH earlier; and they won’t have to go out and collect five times the number of signatures as the “established” parties, while Democrats are out busy campaigning. Greens will also be able to get a listing of primary voters that pulled a Green ballot, allowing them to identify and reach out to their supporters, a major advantage that the Democrats and Republicans have kept to themselves. These are just a couple of examples–there are plenty more.

    Comment by Squideshi Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 7:40 am

  197. That’s it. The ladies need to go on a national bus tour in search of a really hot-looking candidate to run for governor here in Illinois. We can’t just be limited to Illinois (heck, they dragged Alan Keyes in from out of state, right?).

    We’ve already seen that voters don’t vote based on logic (candidates whose CURRENT administration is under multiple investigations versus not under investigation), and since the female vote overwhelmingly went to the guy who fusses over his hair, I’m now convinced that this is the answer for any hope of reform.

    We need to go out and rope a good-lookin’ brain who is honest, ethical, and “liberal” in only the true, classical sense of the word.

    I’m kidding, of course, but it was an idea.;-)

    Comment by Angie Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 2:08 pm

  198. I cant believe how good it feels to have won again. Never doubted that the voters would choose wisely and reelect Rod. He is a great guy and he will have 4 more years to help people. To those who want to tear him down, I suggest that if you ever want to win again you focus that same energy into doing something positive.

    I would also love to say that I will miss the governor’s haters, but I cant imagine that they are any less bitter today than when they lost the top office 4 years ago.

    Comment by You Like? Thursday, Nov 9, 06 @ 5:23 pm

  199. Well, my favorite of he nearly 200 comments is Vanilla Man’s whinalysis that since his candidates lost, Chicago is doomed.

    Okeedokee Vanilla. Chicago relies on the auto industry?

    How about service, hospitality, retail, housing and white collar. Because THAT is what is driving Chicago’s economy, and has been for a generation.

    Jeez people, there’ll be another election in two years. We’re still around six years into the Bush presidency, aren’t we?

    Comment by BuckTurgidson Friday, Nov 10, 06 @ 7:54 am

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