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* 3:16 pm - That old thread was getting long and unwieldy.
Click here to read AFSCME’s lawsuit to keep state paychecks coming even if the governor doesn’t sign the budget.
* 3:27 pm - From the Tribune’s operating budget story…
Blagojevich’s office criticized the legislation even before the voting started, citing the lack of help for the CTA and contending the budget is a billion dollars out of balance. Blagojevich spokeswoman Rebecca Rausch said the budget “has a lot of problems,” including a failure to address the governor’s desire to expand health care and commit to a multibillion construction program.
Further signaling the governor’s displeasure, Rep. Jay Hoffman (D-Collinsville), the governor’s point man in the House, railed against the unbalanced budget proposal as an example of “cooking the books” in a way that ultimately could fall short of its commitment to school funds.
“This budget will never be law,” Hoffman said. “It will not be law. It hurts too many people. … It’s a phony budget put together on a shoestring.”
If the governor doesn’t veto the budget and simply refuses to sign it, the House and Senate may have no choice but to approve a one-month budget next week. That’s why Senate President Jones getting a new appropriations vehicle bill was so important today. He could use that for a one-monther.
…Adding… Sen. Jones would likely come to the guv’s rescue to prevent further problems by running a one-month budget, so then the onus would be on Madigan and the House GOP to also pass it or cause a possible shutdown.
* 3:45 pm - Contrary to rumors, the cigarette tax hike proposal is not dead yet.
Sen. John Cullerton’s amendment containing the 90 cent statewide tax hike and allowing counties like DuPage to increase the cig tax by a buck a pack passed the Senate today with 34 votes. But it’ll need 36 votes on 3rd Reading, so Cullerton is drafting a new amendment which deletes the immediate effective date and changes the implementation day to June 1st, 2008. Therefore, Cullerton will only need to get 30 votes to pass it over to the House.
Sometimes, legislators have a way of jumping off a bill to keep it from passing no matter how low the bar is dropped, so passage is not a completely sure thing, even with the 34 votes on the amendment. And there’s still the House.
* 3:57 pm - AFSCME says its lawsuit will be heard tomorrow afternoon at 1:30. And John Bambenek made a good point in comments…
Anyone notice that the suit was filed in Christian and not Sangamon county? The 1991 case [which established that no budget meant no paychecks] only made it to the 4th district of appeals… Christian County is in the 5th district…
* 4:01 pm - Senate President Jones is telling members to expect to vote on a gaming/capital bill today.
* 4:06 pm - It could be an hour or so before the Senate goes back into session and takes up the operating budget, the cigarette tax and gaming (if they have the votes). Stay close, however. Once the Senate starts, I may bail on blogging because you’ll be able to listen to everything yourself online.
* 4:14 pm - Michael Miner reports on a very interesting development in the federal lawsuit against Illinois Chief Justice Bob Thomas.
* 4:25 pm - AFSCME’s motion for a temporary restraining order can be downloaded here.
* 4:30 pm - IlliniPundit is not happy at all with the Republican role in the state budget process…
Out of this mess, no Republican leader has emerged to capture the public’s awareness by standing for the things that the Illinois public clearly wants - less corruption, less pork, fewer taxes, and an improved education system. Instead, we have both Republican caucuses negotiating on things like a Chicago casino, pork projects for their districts, and a capital bill.
* 4:35 pm - I forgot to tell you about this…
The Senate approved legislation today to extend a key property tax break to Cook County homeowners, and the House prepared to send the measure to the governor.
With one extra tweak in favor of property owners, the Senate pushed through the compromise legislation on the so-called 7 percent cap on assessments with a 53-0 vote, sending the bill to the House.
Speaker Michael Madigan (D-Chicago) told House lawmakers to expect a vote later today on the legislation, which is supported by Mayor Richard Daley and opposed by Cook County Assessor James Houlihan, who sought more relief.
* 4:41 pm - This was not exactly unexpected, considering the foul mood in Springfield right now…
The governor will NOT be walking in the parade tonight.
* 4:52 pm - The rationale…
“I don’t believe he’s going to be there because things are very fluid at the Statehouse right now,” spokeswoman Rebecca Rausch said late this afternoon.
While there has been some speculation that the crowd reception in Springfield might involve booing for the governor embroiled in an overtime state budget battle, Rausch said that was not the reason for the decision.
Instead, she said, a Senate committee is dealing with budget matters, with action expected shortly.
“It’s our expectation they’re going to return to the (Senate) floor and take action on an operating budget, and potentially on other things like a capital program, maybe a gaming bill and maybe our health care bill,” Rausch said.
Frankly, I don’t blame him. I was honestly worried about the man’s safety if he marched in that parade.
* 5:06 pm - I didn’t think Flannery’s shirt was ugly at all. Kinda green, but not ugly.
* 5:16 pm - Union leaders allied with the governor and the heads of the two teachers unions have sent a letter to Senate President Jones asking him not to support the budget passed by the House. Read the letter here. The teachers unions sent a separate letter to all legislative leaders and the governor, which ends thusly…
Recently, we unveiled an income tax increase proposal that we believe has strong support in both caucuses of the House and Senate. We urge you to introduce and pass legislation that follows the framework of that proposal. The General Assembly still has the ability to finally fix our flawed system of school funding. The time is now.
posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:20 pm
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Rich,
Sorry this isnt relavant to your new post, but I can’t figure out how the new spending will be paid for. Beyond natural revenue growth, what makes up the rest of it (the $2 billion)? Is it the cig tax? New positions at boats? dipping into end of year balance? combination? or is it just unbalanced and we will figure out how to pay for it later? SOrry if this is somewhere out there, Its been a long day and my brain is slow.
Comment by Moderate Repub Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:24 pm
Hynes said he needed a budget passed or a court order.
Do you think the judge will act soon enough on this that he gets his court order?
Comment by Jackson Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:27 pm
The delete the entire language then reinsert the entirity of a completely different item is the most screwy thing I’ve seen…that CAN’T be legal…
Comment by Crimefighter Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:27 pm
Ummm, they’re lawmakers and thus make the law. Ergo, this is legal.
Comment by 47th Ward Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:31 pm
Nothing has changed, there’s the Have’s and the Have Not’s.
Comment by Whatever Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:31 pm
Crimefighter, the General Assembly has been doing that since before any of us were born. Please, get a clue.
And MR, it’s a combination of revenue growth (they upped the estimate after seeing - and needing - new projections), dipping into the end of year balance a bit, and closing some corporate loopholes. No casino, no cig tax on this one.
Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:32 pm
I think he will veto it and they will override him. They should use it as a bargainning chip-they will leave all 442 instances of the word travel in it - if he signs it. (Anyone good enough at math to process the totals?)
Comment by AsAMom Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:32 pm
Crimefighter - of course it’s legal. Amending a bill to remove the original contents and add something else is common practice.
Comment by Anonymous ZZZ Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:33 pm
They didn’t stop collecting sales taxes, or exise taxes, or gaming revenues, or you name the tax - it’s being shipped to the Revenue Department/Treasury. The money is coming it, it’s just not authorized to go out.
Example, who has the authoritity to say Lets leave the payment to last years amount?
This isn’t a difficult decision, it’s just that leaders have to discuss and say it’s so through the passage of legislation. We need to thank Hynes for being the Knight and standing up to the Gov that there’s no shinnanigans with un approprited dollars. Leadershp….
Comment by game plan Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:35 pm
Why would they have to pass a one-month budget? I mean, doesn’t that just give the Governor what he wants?
Comment by So Ill Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:38 pm
So if the Governor sits on the budget bill why would the GA have “no choice but to pass another 30 day budget”. I mean this whole exercise has not been about getting a good budget, or getting employees or vendors paid, it has been about politics and egos.
If Blago sits on the budget, the onus is squarely on him for shutting down government. Why would Madigan pass a 30 day budget to let him off the hook? If Blago vetoes or changes the budget, he looks like he is sticking to his priorities, however if he just sits on it, he looks like a little kid pouting in the corner. Madigan and the Republicans win if that happens.
Comment by Jaded Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:42 pm
They would have to pass a one month (two if they smart) budget to make sure bills are paid (school aid, state workers’ paycheck, etc..) when the Governor spends sixty days sitting on the bill and crying to anyone who will listen. If the man had any honor, integrity or common sense, he would sign the budget upon receipt.
Comment by jwscott72 Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:43 pm
This is, really, a very simple process. The legislature produces a bill and the Governor, as the Chief Executive Officer, gets to make a decision to say yes or no. It is his responsibility to do that and the legislature, by passing a budget bill, has met their responsibility (regardless of whether you like the bill or not). Once the bill is passed, the ball is squarely in the Governor’s court and he can actually do what he’s being paid to do — make executive decisions and let the chips fall where they may. If he vetoes the bill, let the process work itself through and live with the consequences of the legislature either accepting the veto or overriding it. It’s clear from today’s vote (99-9) that there doesn’t appear to be a lot of support for accepting a veto.
As a former house staffer, I have to say I’ve seen some interesting budget negotiations but I’ve never seen a Governor as entrenched and completely schizophrenic as this one. It makes me glad that I’m no longer living in Illinois and paying taxes there.
Comment by dc Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:43 pm
So Ill - Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:38 pm:
Why would they have to pass a one-month budget? I mean, doesn’t that just give the Governor what he wants?
No it doesn’t give him what he wants. What it would do is give him the opportunity to continue to lobby memebers to not override his veto that will come. It gives him 60 days from passage to not act on it. If he doesnt act then it becomes law anyway after 60 days. So the Presidient of the Senate and Speaker would have to keep their members in line for the override of the GOvs veto for the next 60 days. So what it does is it gove the GOv an extension to try and peel members away form their leaders by dangling pork (which Abby said she didnt like at a confrence (The $200 million in pork in the operating budget the GA will vote on this afternoon)), or threating them.
Thanks Rich for clearing that up on the revenue growth question.
Comment by Moderate Repub Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:46 pm
Sulg @ 2:46 on the “just in” thread.
The 7% Solution is an extension of a residential property tax exemption that is the place in Cook County. The original bill had a three year sunset provision attached to it, which expired at the end of 2006. The passage of the bill, HB664, will effect tax bills that will going out this fall. There is other language that is part of that bill, which deals with the uniform valuation of Wind Farms, new veteran’s property tax exemptions and increasing the amounts of other exemptions that are already inplace.
Comment by South of I-80 Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:48 pm
“If the governor doesn’t veto the budget and simply refuses to sign it, the House and Senate may have no choice but to approve a one-month budget next week. That’s why Senate President Jones getting a new appropriations vehicle bill was so important today. He could use that for a one-monther. ”
If I were them I’d actually pass a 60 day budget. At the end of that 60 days today’s budget would either go into effect or HAVE to be vetoed by the gov… puts the onus on him.
Comment by Anon Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:48 pm
Jaded, Sen. Jones would likely come to the guv’s rescue with the one-monther, so then the onus would be on Madigan and the House GOP.
Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:53 pm
Anyone notice that the suit was filed in Christian and not Sangamon county? The 1991 case only made it to the 4th district of appeals… Christian County is in the 5th district…
Comment by John Bambenek Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:55 pm
Rich has the real answer I was looking for, Mod-Rep, but thanks for the input.
Of course, Madigan also has the ‘it was considered useless when I passed it before, why would I pass a one-monther again?’ card.
Comment by So Ill Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 3:58 pm
I think we are all talking a little too glibly (I’m talking to you, Jaded) about a govt shutdown. I mean, its not just egos. This has ripple effects across the entire state. It’s not just state workers who ’signed up for this’ - as someone remarked earlier. A shutdown also effects a lot of non-profits who have no operating budget without their govt program budget chunk, a lot of unsuspecting people turned away from those services and workers laid off completely. And non-profits rarely have the kind of money reservoirs to weather a month or so shortfall. Worst case scenario, it could mean losing their rental space or being set back financially to a level that would take 6 months to recover from. So I hope we aren’t encouraging the leaders to think this is only about Egos.
Comment by opinionated Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:02 pm
Not to throw a monkey wrench in the union’s lawsuit, but it appears that they aren’t too familiar with state laws governing lawsuits filed against the state.
Pursuant to the State Immunity Act, 745 ILCS 5/1 which provides that “the State of Illinois shall not be made a defendant or party in any court”. The lawsuit is without merit against the “State of Illinois” and Dan Hynes is protected by the “Tort Immunity Act” and the “Local Government and Governmental Tort Immunity Act” 745 ILCS 10/1-101.
Comment by One_Mcmad Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:09 pm
Learn about the terms you are using. They aren’t filing a tort suit, so even citing those laws are meaningless. They are suing for declatory and injunctive relief, not for “harm” (i.e. tort).
The state will likely make the argument that this case belongs in the Court of Claims and not in the state court, but if they are arguing federal law too, likely the court won’t chuck the case based on that.
Comment by John Bambenek Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:15 pm
So what about the budget makes it out of balance in the guv’s eyes?
Comment by Nate Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:16 pm
Rich, That’s a slam dunk for Madigan. He tells Emil and Rod to stick their 30 day budget and breaks out the ole:
“The House and the Senate have passed a 12 month budget that the Governor needs to act on. There is no need for a 30 day budget because the House and the Senate have already passed a 12 month budget. If the Governor makes changes to the budget that the House and the Senate have already passed, then the House will return to consider those changes.”
I don’t think he loses that argument in the media, but I have been wrong before and will be many times again.
Comment by Jaded Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:18 pm
Sorry to be “glib” opinionated, but politics ain’t beanbag. If the GA passes a budget and the Governor sits on it, go tell your sob story to him, because HE will be the reason your employees and not for profits don’t get paid.
Oh, and nobody has to encourage the egos of the fab five. They are big enough without encouragement.
Comment by Jaded Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:24 pm
Spin, spin spin,
Page and the Chronicle used their poitions in the free press in a very ugly way and should be help responsible for that.
The lawers for both sides will stand to make a lot of mony, likely more than what is owed Justice Thomas.
Media players do nothing but stoke the fires of disinterst in the general public, while giving themselces a black eye in the process. Ultimately it is the honest reporter’s story which is disbelieved.
Comment by Plutocrat03 Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:29 pm
John Bambenek - Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:15 pm:
Mr. Bambenek, I am very well aware of the terms that I am using and very familiar with the fact that Mr. Hynes is acting in his official capacity pursuant to a state law that he is evoking that doesn’t allow him to issue checks without a state budget. If there is such a law, which I am not sure of, then he is acting pursuant to state law in his official capacity and is immune from any type of suit, tort or injunctory as he doesn’t have the final say so, the law that he is evoking does. That is why yesterday he was quoted as saying that he will ask the Attorney General for an opinion on the matter.
If the Attorney General’s opinion upholds the law he is evoking, that makes him even more immune from suit injuctory or tort.
But thank you anyway!
Comment by One_Mcmad Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:34 pm
Does anyone know how much (and what kind) pork is in the budget for the 14th District?
Comment by The 'Broken Heart' of Rogers Park Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:45 pm
Hynes spokeswoman Carol Knowles indicated the comptroller would not fight AFSCME if a judge rules quickly in the union’s favor.
“We welcome the lawsuit because a court order could potentially allow us to legally pay state employees,” Knowles said.
Comment by Why I like Hynes Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:46 pm
Wonder what’s really up ?? I was told by someone that an “E” mail went out about 3pm today within a specific agency indicating to those workers etc. that the payroll would not be effected & fiurther indicated that they were “assured” that there would be no interuption of the next scheduled pay-date.
Comment by annon Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:48 pm
LE Spouse just told me to stop making signs.
Comment by Little Egypt Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:49 pm
What a surprise. Coward.
Comment by He's not marching? Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:50 pm
I heard Senate Dems are making changes to the budget draft. Anyone know what’s going on?
BTW, moving a capitol bill that the Gov has discretion over is pointless. House Dems are not going to give him freedom to buy votes for the rest of his term.
Comment by Nickname Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:53 pm
Marching in a parade seems like the perfect job for a Deputy Governor.
Sheila?
Comment by So Ill Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 4:59 pm
Just have somebody walk the route pulling a pinata with a poofy wig and jogging shoes? People might not even notice that it isn’t him. And the pinata would absorb the eggs and tomatoes better.
Comment by Why don't they Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:02 pm
Can you say Governor Chicken….
Comment by Bubba Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:03 pm
Any bets on whether Blago will be a no-show for the official ribbin cutting??
Comment by curious george Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:06 pm
Bubba and others, back off. Would you march in a parade in this town right now if you were him? If you would, then we could use you in Iraq at the moment. My advice: enlist.
Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:10 pm
So let me get this straight. The situation at the Capitol is fluid, so the Gov needs to stay close to home, so that the minute the budget passes he can rush into action and…refuse to do anything with it?
Comment by Don't Worry, Be Happy Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:13 pm
For give my optimism. but if the governor decides to sit on the budget for an extended perod of time, would it be cause for impeachment?
Comment by Tired of the mess Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:14 pm
Oh c’mon people. I really don’t care for the guy either, but he would get eviscerated by the media, and probably by many of you if he went walking in the parade while all this is going on at the Statehouse. He is making the right choice. Don’t think for a moment it is because he is scared. I don’t think the guy scares easily.
Comment by Jaded Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:14 pm
Rich, I agree. I obviously don’t like the guy but I too felt it unsafe. Too many wackos out there and smart not to take a foolhearty risk like that.
Comment by A Citizen Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:14 pm
Maybe he can just do a flyover in an IDOT plane instead.
Comment by Thinking Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:18 pm
So Little Egypt we must put our tomatoes back in the fridge for a while, Darn!
Comment by A Citizen Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:18 pm
John Bambenek wrote:
“Anyone notice that the suit was filed in Christian and not Sangamon county? The 1991 case only made it to the 4th district of appeals… Christian County is in the 5th district…”
Doesn’t matter. As the Supreme Court wrote when those ex-con Chicago aldermen tried to get on the ballot this year, “The notion that circuit courts are bound only by the appellate court decisions from their own district is a relic of the pre-1964 Illinois Constitution of 1870 and has been expressly disavowed by our court. … Until this court says otherwise, an appellate court’s decision must therefore be followed regardless of the appellate court’s district.”
Of course, if it gets as far as an appeal to the 5th District, they could disagree with the 4th and make the issue ripe for review by the supremes.
Comment by Learned Foot Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:20 pm
Does anybody know the number of times over the years (and who) a Governor hasn’t walked in the parade/ribbon cutting?
Comment by Just Wonderin' Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:22 pm
Flannery’s shirt is fine. The problem is that the tie clashes with it.
Comment by Don't Worry, Be Happy Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:25 pm
geezzzz??????? people are ready for some relief from this and the heat. as to a no-show at the fair…in all fairness i can’t blame the guy for not marching or coming out in crowds as the “hate factor” is about as high as the temp. for this guy. even if your apolitical the distrust and anomosity for this dude is all around. you know i wish no-one evil or mis-fortune but you can bet some liquored up idiot in the crowd would try something. it’s the way it is and we’ve got to deal with it in better ways. we’re stuck with him till 2011. i hope he does the right thing , signs it and get on to the next thing. i hope the ga is learning from this too.
Comment by annon Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:26 pm
“High handed, insulting and arrogant.” Wow. I’ll bet he is off the Christmas card list.
DWBH is right. I don’t know much about fashion, but the tie and the shirt clash.
Comment by Jaded Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:36 pm
For once a wise decision made by the gov…no ISF Parade walk. ISP Executive Security would have had a really bad time with the expected “enthusiastic” fair parade watchers. They would have had to act like air raid watchers in WW II London watching for incoming V-2 rockets. Some Springpatch media outlets have spent the better part of the past several days entertaining/creative suggestions on how to best greet the gov. However, the PR spin about staying close to the dome for budget discussion reasons was interesting since that hasn’t concerned Blago in the past weeks …months…leading up todays potential vote.
Comment by curious george Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:49 pm
Let’s close this one down.
Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:50 pm
And start a new one, of course.
Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Aug 9, 07 @ 5:51 pm