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Rauner: “Illinois is at the edge of disaster”

Tuesday, Nov 21, 2017

* Gov. Rauner’s campaign account…


* But the Bond Buyer’s reporter makes a good point…


* And the governor’s state account is trumpeting a “Thankful for Illinois” message…

- Posted by Rich Miller        

64 Comments
  1. - Chicago Cynic - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:43 am:

    “Illinois is at the edge of disaster”

    What a perfect message for the Amazon campaign. Thanks Bruce Rauner.

    And yea, this stuff does matter.


  2. - Michelle Flaherty - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:44 am:

    Because the Rauner administration has been all about investing in state parks, blue collar jobs and higher education.


  3. - AlfondGonz - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:45 am:

    The edge of disaster, you say? If only Rauner had a chance to lead us away from the edge the past 4 years. So vote out the incumbent and give Bruce a chance!


  4. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:46 am:

    Rauner vetoed funding for state parks.

    Rauner vetoed funding for higher education.

    Neither has had a full year’s funding by Rauner’s signature.

    How many people know this?


  5. - illini - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:47 am:

    You beat me to it, Michelle.


  6. - Will Caskey - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:50 am:

    Illinois is basically fine. Its taxes need to go up more, hopefully sooner rather than later, but it’s not THE biggest deal (anymore).

    I’m quite weary of IL pols yelling that IL is mid-disaster when it is not and studying their fingernails when it very clearly is.


  7. - Ducky LaMoore - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:50 am:

    “Illinois is at the edge of disaster, that is why this election is so important.”

    I agree wholeheartedly. That is why I will be supporting someone who might actually attempt to do a good job. (psst, that’s not you, Bruce)


  8. - Ole' Nelson - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:52 am:

    The true disaster for Illinois would be four more years of Governor Rauner.


  9. - FormerParatrooper - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:54 am:

    Reminds me of how my company meetings used to go. They would start out saying how bad things were, that we needed to do better and would end saying how much they appreciated what we were doing for corporate and how valuable we were.


  10. - Steve Rogers - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:55 am:

    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…


  11. - Langhorne - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:56 am:

    We are most definitely at the edge of disaster.

    The disaster would be to reelect rauner.
    Are we better off than 4 years ago? No
    Would another term improve things? Not in the least.


  12. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:56 am:

    Bond issue next week and he’s allegedly chasing Amazon? Way to sell it, Ol’ Gil. Put a poison skull and crossbones badge on your biker vest costume.

    Rauner’s actions and rhetoric in office make sense if you conclude that he’s a bad faith actor, that he is willfully sabotaging the state where and when he can for whatever twisted pleasure he gets out if it.

    Or he’s stupid. Take your pick.


  13. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:58 am:

    “Illinois is basically fine.”

    What? We have one of the highest tax burdens in the nation, our unemployment rate is one of the highest in the US, we are losing population and we haven’t recovered all the jobs lost since the last recession.


  14. - Colin O'Scopey - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 10:59 am:

    ==I am committed to getting corrupt leadership out of the Legislature and protecting Illinoisans from bad government.==

    If you haven’t been able to move the needle one iota, what makes you think you can move it after what is widely believed to be a “wave” year.

    There will be 2 waves, actually, in 2018: the Democrat wave that will reinstate the super-majorities in the IL House and the voters’ wave. That’s when the voters wave goodbye to Rauner.


  15. - Colin O'Scopey - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:01 am:

    ==What? We have one of the highest tax burdens in the nation, our unemployment rate is one of the highest in the US, we are losing population and we haven’t recovered all the jobs lost since the last recession.==

    The only thing missing from your diatribe is the old tripe: “and we’re going to be the next Detroit (or Greece, or blah blah blah).


  16. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:02 am:

    Can the State of Illinois sue Rauner for harassment? Because he sure likes to do the old “you’re beautiful, but you’ll never be good enough for the job” routine.


  17. - Macbeth - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:05 am:

    Um, well. What a bizarre message.

    I don’t want — or need — to be “protected” by Bruce Rauner. I don’t need his protection, and I don’t want it.

    He had his chance — and he’s failed. Another 4 years won’t change a thing.

    He failed to protect social services. He failed to protect universities. Why in the world — why in the world — would I think he could do any better than he has done?


  18. - Cheryl44 - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:05 am:

    If he were serious about protecting Illinois he’d resign and take Slip ‘n’ Sue with him.


  19. - RNUG - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:06 am:

    Does Rauner have such a cognatic disconnect that he believes he can say two totally opposite things at the same time and not have anyone notice?

    Either he suffers from multiple personalities that don’t communicated, or he has the ultimate chutzpah.

    I blame the press for this; they have rarely challenged any statement made by Rauner.


  20. - Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:07 am:

    Will Caskey is sums up the views of the Ostriches in the Democratic leadership in Illinois, Illinois is basically fine.

    We are just one more tax increase way from prosperity. The fact that Illinois is losing population because of rising taxes on middle class families and businesses is of absolutely no concern.

    Mike Madigan, Lou Lang, Steve Brown, John Cullerton, Toni Preckwinkle et al, which on you is Will Caskey?


  21. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:07 am:

    ===I don’t want — or need — to be “protected” by Bruce Rauner.===

    You’re probably not the target audience.


  22. - PublicServant - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:12 am:

    ===If he were serious about protecting Illinois he’d resign and take Slip ‘n’ Sue with him.===

    The voters will take care of that in about 11 months.


  23. - Henry Francis - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:20 am:

    ==I blame the press for this; they have rarely challenged any statement made by Rauner.==

    True that. It’s a big fat meatball coming right down the middle of the plate.

    Ask the Guv about his tweet, and let him riff his usual about the state being a disaster and unfriendly to businesses.

    Then immediately after that diatribe, ask him “Governor, you have obviously been a very successful businessman. If you were the head of Amazon, why would you want to come to Illinois?”


  24. - King Louis XVI - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:20 am:

    New communications team doing a bang-up job.


  25. - CrispyCritter - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:23 am:

    Even if he is not re-elected, I fear he will not go away.


  26. - Will Caskey - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:30 am:

    Hi Mr. Pierre, and Ron (Sandack? We should just get lunch and yell at each other in person).

    Yes Illinois is basically fine. You having sad feelings about the level of state taxation is not a material concern. The economy could expand faster, sure. The population could rise, or rise faster or whatever.

    The state is fine, not perfect. Its taxes need to go up because while its structural deficit is addressed for now, the bill backlog isn’t accounted for in a way anyone would call stable. I didn’t say that would create prosperity, because taxes have nothing to do with prosperity beyond the most marginal sense in scenarios one does not see in first world countries.

    Go snicker about this on the IPI Facebook page if you wish, it will not change that it is reality.


  27. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:30 am:

    Colin O’Scopey, you have classic head in the sand syndrome that is very prominent here. You did nothing to refute anything I said.


  28. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:31 am:

    Will, you appear to be very bad at economics.


  29. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:34 am:

    CrispyCritter - Unlike Pat Quinn, who lives to run, Rauner just wanted an expensive play toy. Didn’t work out the way he planned, once he’s out he’ll just look for another shiny object to play with - maybe another house or his own island.


  30. - Arsenal - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:37 am:

    ==The fact that Illinois is losing population because of rising taxes on middle class families and businesses==

    It lost population from 2015-2017, too, Skip.


  31. - Vole - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:39 am:

    Rauner taking his own arrows once again.


  32. - Chris Widger - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:48 am:

    I don’t think Illinois can survive without, among other reforms, a progressive income tax. I believe that electing Rauner will begin a chain of events that will more hastily lead to a progressive income tax compared to electing not-Rauner, so that’s why I am going to vote for him. The argument is not compelling, I admit, but everything else in this state is window dressing compared to that war.


  33. - West Side the Best Side - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:48 am:

    Forgot to put my name in at 11:34 and when tried to correct it 2 devices so far said was duplicate comment. Anyone else have that problem, not you OW, how do you do it?


  34. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:50 am:

    ===how do you do it?===

    I’m not an IT person, but the two devices might not have helped.

    Clean out you cache?

    I also cycle my phone often.


  35. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:51 am:

    Rauner is absolutely right. We were in bad shape when he became governor, but with his steely determination to set in motion his insuperable incompetence, phoniness, and meanness, we are now on the edge of disaster. Finally got something right, Ruiner.


  36. - Honeybear - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:52 am:

    No Ron, you have proven over and over to not understand economics.

    You wish for Illinois to be like Kansas and Louisiana

    Those states are in economic ruin because of
    Supply side economics/Laffer curve/Hayek/Mises
    Economic theory
    Which only effectively transfers
    Wealth upward to the super wealthy
    Which is exactly what has happened
    In those states
    Where’s the promised growth?


  37. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:53 am:

    === I believe that electing Rauner will begin a chain of events that will more hastily lead to a progressive income tax compared to electing not-Rauner, so that’s why I am going to vote for him===

    Hmm.

    How do you see Rauner in this progressive income tax thingy, given Rauner in the process to make this happen.

    Wishing something to happen and knowing how it will happen is two different things.


  38. - anon2 - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 11:58 am:

    === The fact that Illinois is losing population because of rising taxes on middle class families…===

    When people who move out of state are asked why, taxes are not the main factor. Just eight percent of those who said they were leaving claimed it was because of taxes (versus 14 percent of New York respondents and 8 percent of Marylanders). Which means that taxes were not the reason for 92 percent. Twenty-six percent of Illinoisans who said they were leaving claimed it was work/business related, 17 percent said weather/location, 15 percent said it was for a quality of life change, 9 percent said cost of living, and 6 percent said it was for family/friends or school related.
    https://capitolfax.com/2014/04/30/gallup-half-of-illinoisans-would-leave-if-they-could/

    In addition, a recent study found that Illinoisans are not more likely to move than residents in other states. In per capita terms, Illinois’ gross out-migration rate ranks just 29th out of the 50 states and the District of Columbia. In other words, Illinois residents are actually less likely to move out than are residents of the median state. The reason for slow growth or population loss is that Illinois attracts fewer newcomers per capita than all but two other states. https://capitolfax.com/2017/09/08/illinois-problem-isnt-people-moving-out-its-that-theyre-not-moving-in/


  39. - JS Mill - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:05 pm:

    =Will, you appear to be very bad at economics.=

    That is only true if you do not believe in paying your bills. Which seems to be the Alt-right dog whistle these days. Is that the new standard of excellence in American business? That is what the Trumps and Rauners seem to think.

    You see, it is just math. We couldn’t pay our bills at 3.75% and Rauner wants to go back to 3%?! If that is what passes for math at Dartmouth and Fordham, we may need to talk about decertification.

    Deadbeats. Is that what phony conservatives have become? To save a few grand in taxes (on massive incomes) that will not be turned back into the economy while touting “Trickle Down”. I guess Kansas is fake news.

    Man do they hate the truth and poor people.

    No, we will stimulate the economy when we begin taking care of higher ed (all of ed) investing in infrastructure and paying the structural debt. That will stimulate the economy for those of us that are not mega millionaires.

    Illinois does not have the highest tax burden in the US. You want it too, but it doesn’t. And every state gets their money one way or another.

    You keep flying that flag for the “trickle down” phonies.


  40. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:13 pm:

    We can’t pay our bills now JS and we have one of the highest tax burdens in the nation. Time to cut spending.


  41. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:14 pm:

    I’m not a conservative, so that makes sense.


  42. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:15 pm:

    We are ranked #5 in state and local tax burden. That’s very high.


  43. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:16 pm:

    We do have a lot of unionized public workers who could care less about the rest of the citizens of IL.


  44. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:17 pm:

    IL is tied with CA for state and local tax burden.

    No wonder people are leaving. If I didn’t have a fantastic job, I would rather live in CA too.


  45. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:19 pm:

    Ron, LP, quick, to the troll poles, the governor desperately needs your help.

    He disclosed to bond buyers that he plans on spending the entire $36B of FY18 appropriations, even after getting that big tax increase.

    In fact, he could only identify $150M in cuts — .4 of 1%.

    Please, help him take actions that will match yours and his dishonest talking points.


  46. - RNUG - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:28 pm:

    == Time to cut spending. ==

    So … as the occupant of the most powerful Governor’s office in the nation

    Exactly what percentage of the approved budget has Rauner sequestered or otherwise set aside?

    What amount of waste, fraud, and abuse have Rauner’s Directors identified and cut?

    What other steps within his executive powers has Rauner ordered to curtail spending?


  47. - NeverPoliticallyCorrect - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:45 pm:

    Tired of the same old song but it needs to be said. Il is in a mess because of incompetent governance from both parties over decades. Everyone know we can’t cut our way out of this mess but to deny the ever increasing tax burden is delusional. What any candidate for governor should be advocating for is an end to the cozy deals that state employee unions have had for years. They also have to commit to funding the pension systems. And they need to move to a defined contribution retirement plan. Then someone needs to do a complete needs analysis of Illinois, infrastructure and vulnerable citizens. At the same time no new unfunded mandates for public schools for at least 5 years. Finally, the next legislature should enact redistricting reform for the 2020 election. That would be a great start. Too logical so never mind, this will never happen.


  48. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:50 pm:

    We could also legalize pot and start collecting $100s of $1,000,000s.


  49. - Jocko - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:54 pm:

    Someone tell Governor Eeyore to lighten up.


  50. - Someone you should know - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:59 pm:

    - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 12:16 pm:

    We do have a lot of unionized public workers who could care less about the rest of the citizens of IL.

    You mean the fire service and the police, or the nurse, or the guy who changes your tire in he rain and snow, or the snow plow driver out at 2am in a blinding snow storm, or the DCFS worker walking into a dangerous house to protect a child

    Right, none of these folks care about illinois.

    Bring this tripe elsewhere, and get your head out of the sand.


  51. - Huh? - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 1:08 pm:

    I am so confused. If Illinois doing great? Or a disaster? Oh, now I remember, it depends in who 1.4% is talking to about the State.


  52. - Seymourkid - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 1:18 pm:

    Any proof or evidence of this corrupt leadership that is mentioned?


  53. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 1:24 pm:

    ==Illinois is at the edge of disaster==

    Thanks to you, Governor. From your mouth to every voter’s ears, we’re where we are thanks to you.

    Your reelection slogan.


  54. - Michelle Flaherty - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 1:34 pm:

    Ron, those tax burden rankings factor in local property taxes. The fastest way to change that combined tax burden ranking is through local government.


  55. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 1:49 pm:

    ==Illinois is at the edge of disaster==

    Because of you, we’re all paying to shove some of us, while unborn, off the edge to a fate worse than disaster.


  56. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 1:52 pm:

    ==Illinois is at the edge of disaster==

    And because of you, our taxes are higher as we sit at that edge, right?


  57. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 1:54 pm:

    ==Illinois is at the edge of disaster==

    Because you are a failure.


  58. - JS Mill - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 1:55 pm:

    =We could also legalize pot and start collecting $100s of $1,000,000s.=

    Ron, I am confused. Taxes are too high or we are not taxing enough?


  59. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 2:00 pm:

    “- Michelle Flaherty - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 1:34 pm:

    Ron, those tax burden rankings factor in local property taxes. The fastest way to change that combined tax burden ranking is through local government.”

    I have no idea what your point is. If you live in Illinois you have the 5th highest state and local tax burden in the nation.


  60. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 2:01 pm:

    What the ….. he goes from super happy and positive about Illinois to existential doom “ yes, my friends, we’re on the “Eve of Destruction….”. There is a psychiatric term for that.


  61. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 2:01 pm:

    “Ron, I am confused.”

    Clearly


  62. - Ron - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 2:03 pm:

    At least IL economic growth was 2.2% in the second quarter of the year. Higher than the national average.


  63. - NoLongerFollowing - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 2:24 pm:

    = We can’t pay our bills now JS and we have one of the highest tax burdens in the nation. Time to cut spending. =

    As CFO me and the Director asked to cut expenses in our own Agency and we were blocked by GOMB. As a true Fiscal Conservative, I do not think Rauner cares about saving money (as $100’s million of late payment interest proves).


  64. - NobodysAccountable - Tuesday, Nov 21, 17 @ 2:34 pm:

    I’m thankful Bruce obviously got his medicinal prescription filled before the holiday weekend.


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