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posted by Rich Miller
Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 4:52 pm
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Well, having just seen a twitter post by an old classmate about something Mitt’s ex-sister-in-law posted on facebook.
I just want to say thanks this election season for you all and the generally rational (and highly rational vs most of the world) political discussions we have here.
Anyway I plan to flip between football and baseball.
Comment by OneMan Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:00 pm
Thanks, Rich.
This should be a treat, a virtual “bar stool”.
Should we get appetizers?
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:04 pm
Live Music: Still the Best Value for Your Entertainment Dollar
– MrJM
Comment by MrJM Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:06 pm
What Cardinal would make a good Bear? and vice versa……. I like Matt Holliday as a Chicago Bear and I bet Peanut Tillman could roam the outfield pretty well.
Comment by Anonymous Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:11 pm
I’ve already voted. Made sure my family did, too. I think I’ll forgo the games AND the debate and go for SpongeBob this evening.
Comment by Ted Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:15 pm
keep it clean,….the rain washed away lots but left bad traffic behind.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:19 pm
I can’t recall an election season that I wanted to be over with so badly as this one, and we don’t have a statewide race this time around either.
Comment by Just Me Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:21 pm
What happens to ratings when scheduling a presidential debate against Monday Night Football and then having a Game 7 baseball playoff suddenly fall in everyone’s lap?
Comment by Angry Chicagoan Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:22 pm
Wow! All on the tube (flat screen)at roughly the exact same time…..
When I get in the office in the morning, I may have to break out the company defibrillator after all this. Chest compressions tonight to unblock my aorta…Da Bears!
Comment by Anonymoose Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:22 pm
Wouldn’t it have been great to hear Bill Swerski say “Urlacher” on the Superfans sketch?
“Urlacher against Matthew Stafford. Bears 42, Lions minus 5.”
Comment by cover Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:24 pm
Angry C…I think I’d wager the mortgage that the debate will lose would-be viewers to MNF and Game 7 of the NLCS. And that the sky will be either blue or gray tomorrow morning.
Comment by Six Degrees of Separation Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:25 pm
O-HO, you felt guilty and included the Cards, eh?
Comment by Liandro Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:27 pm
Willy, I’ve got the cannoli.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:30 pm
Since I’m a Bears fan who’s rooting for the Giants tonight, am I safe commenting on San Fran’s win tonight or will I earn your eternal wrath Rich?
Comment by Draznnl Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:32 pm
I may not make it to half-time, the 7th inning or the point where Romney and POTUS slap fight (whichever comes first). This is my kind of evening.
Comment by LevivotedforJudy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:33 pm
==I can’t recall an election season that I wanted to be over with so badly as this one,==
Neither can I. The Bears will provide a welcome, and less bloodthirsty, diversion.
Comment by Wensicia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:40 pm
===Willy, I’ve got the cannoli.===
Excellent, AA!
“Bar Keep, I would like a tall glass of milk ..uh, .. in a dirty glass!”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:49 pm
Predictions…
The San Francisco Giants will score more runs than the Detroit Lions score points!! And they will both score more points than Obama and Romney combined who will circle without landing any serious blows.
Comment by 1776 Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 5:57 pm
Wonder what Albert Pujols is doing tonight besides counting his money and telling his family and friends, “it was not about the money”.
Comment by Give Me A Break Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 6:29 pm
===Wonder what Albert Pujols is doing tonight besides counting his money and telling his family and friends, “it was not about the money”.===
I was watching SportsCenter and thought that same thing. the Cardinals made the best decision for them as a ball club, and I now hope the fan base will think twice when questioning other moves …
On the North Side, you overpay, underperform, and aploogize to no one … Alfonso Soriano, anyone?
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 6:49 pm
Bears kickoff … I am guessing the Cards fans are getting edgy … 1-0 Giants, Top of 2… starting the “timeline” of events …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 7:33 pm
Bears up. Fox set for Trump wednesday presser. Cards down 2-0.at least getting runners on
Comment by circularfiringsquad Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:02 pm
7-0 Bears, 1st Quarter …2-0 Giants, top or 3rd … Debate begins…
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:05 pm
Insta-poll … whose Tie is more “presidential”?
BTW, if POTUS does something, does it automatically BECOME “presidential”?
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:06 pm
Romney - Red tie
Obama - Blue tie
Conspiracy???
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:07 pm
Detroit, another Personal Foul … a shocker … Romney “holding his own” … very “wonky” …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:14 pm
10/zip Bears.
Comment by Wensicia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:16 pm
Schieffer - “Ok, fellas, who wants pie?”
Bears 10, Lions, Zero … nearing the end of 1st Qtr …big trouble for STL … 5-0 Giants, no outs, man on 2nd … Bottom of 3rd … yikes!
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:17 pm
Quick-Poll …
Trump Presser - Important to Voters, or Imprtant to Trump?
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:19 pm
Obama looks like he is facing an IRS Audit … tough to debate policy … when it’s your policy. Are you going to go against yourself?
Romney seems comfortable, but I say that … does he have a cold?
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:21 pm
Bases loaded again … still No outs …horrible play to try to get the force @ home … 6-0 Giants. Rule of thumb, if no play at home, “turn 2″ or take the easy play & get an out!
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:23 pm
Yea! Pitcher Ks … one out
Bears nned to catch passes that are “put where they need to be put.”
Obama trying to go on the offensive ….
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:26 pm
Bases loaded AGAIN! Two outs, bottom of 3rd … 7-0 Giants…
Obama seesm angry, and probably aggrivated being on defensive so much …
Bears deep in their own territory …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:33 pm
Cards finally get out of the inning .. thru 3, 7-0 Giants….
Bears getting out of the deep hole the punt had them, over midfield …
The “wonky” talk continues … most used phrase by both men …”which leads me to what I want to talk about, ‘X’ …”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:39 pm
So far … BEARS … that simple … Bears.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:42 pm
My Bad … I jinxed Robbie Gould!
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:43 pm
On to Iran … getting pretty intense …we will see if this gets “less civil”
Bears defense … Good … or Great?
Looks like Giants BP (batting practice) … need a “quiet” inning to cool the Giant bats …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:49 pm
Suh is the Dirtiest Player … EVER!
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:52 pm
Cutler is the toughest guy who gets the least respect. FACT!
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:54 pm
Giants crusing … Bears breathe a bit easier with Cutler … Obama on sanctions and his administration’s toughness.
2nd most use phrase …”Let me be clear” … no, please be foggy or cryptic, voters like that.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 8:57 pm
Cards go quiet in the 5th … Bottom of 5, Giants up.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:00 pm
Pakistan and Afghanistan … Romney begins ..
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:06 pm
“The ruling on the field stands … Fumble”
Quick-poll … Bears defense … Aggressive or Opportunistic?
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:08 pm
Cards - top of 6 … need some hits, need a rally, start one with HBP.
Bears - Half … 10-0. Cutler goes in locker room early, worried?
Pakistan discussion continues on Philosophy …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:11 pm
Cards - 2 on, 1 out …”this visit to the Giants mound is brought to you by Capitol Fax …”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:15 pm
China trade and “China” jobs…
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:16 pm
For a minute there, I thought Schieffer was going to ask, “what would you do for a Klondike bar?”
Comment by Cheswick Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:17 pm
“This Giants Pitching Change is brought to you by …”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:17 pm
This Just In …
Bears still leading … and it’s still halftime.
China trade war … “Econ” wonks are salivating
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:20 pm
Quick-Poll … eTrade “Baby” cute … funny …”spooky”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:23 pm
Shouldn’t Ferris Bueller’s “Teacher”, no, not the real Ben Stein, but the character, shouldn’t that teacher be moderating the China Trade part of this debate?
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:24 pm
Cards “end” the Inning, Giants start the bottom of 6 up 7-0.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:25 pm
Cutler huddles up the Bears … good sign. Cutler looks gimpy and tender … no, I am not commenting on his persona.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:26 pm
Quick-Poll … Whose is better ….the Giants “Beard”, or Cutler’s Beard …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:28 pm
Romney’s lecture … makes me squirm in my chair and I ain’t be lectured! Not a political comment, just the style … the lecturing made me squirm.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:29 pm
Rally Cards, Bear Down, Mitt Fumbles.
The Valve?
Comment by Arthur Andersen Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:32 pm
Closings …
Obama goes safe, closes with positives of Admin …
Romney goes “promises” and visions of Romney Admin…
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:33 pm
Bears extend their lead over the Giants to 13-7
Comment by Draznnl Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:34 pm
Spinning begins … Our guy was great, your guy was weak … or however you would like to spin.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:36 pm
“Kick is up … and its good”
13-10 … BEARS.
Cards game … quiet, quiet, quiet bats
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:39 pm
Bottom of 7 … 7-0 Giants …
Spinning continues… but spinning to Bears and Cards!
Bears …Defense needs a stop …Lions driving.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:44 pm
Tillman …”playing big” John Gruden
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:49 pm
Aggresive or Opportuniustic????
Who cares? Bears Ball, goal line stop!
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:50 pm
Giants 8-0 … 2 men on, 2 out … tough nite on the Cards …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:54 pm
“We are thru 7 …”
Bears crusing … 3rd Qtr almost over … Cutler looks “fine”, but I an’t a doctor, and I haven’t yet, played one on the TV
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 9:57 pm
Willy, are we home alone?
Comment by Arthur Andersen Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:01 pm
Top “Twitter” moments…
Horses and Bayonets, Syria, Apology Tour, teachers…
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:01 pm
bayonets, horses and ships. hilarious.
Suh, not hilarious. cannot figure out who I hate more, Suh or Vandenbosch. aren’t they both from Nebraska?
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:03 pm
In the Office … family knew big nite with Bears and Debate … shoving food under the door …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:03 pm
===Suh or Vandenbosch===
Oohh … there is no “wrong” answer there …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:04 pm
AA,
Was wating for Tom cross to invite me to a “watching party” … I guess it got lost.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:06 pm
Bears thru 3 Qtrs … start 4th with the Football and the lead, 13-0
Cards struggling … trying to rally, Giants bullpen is busy.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:08 pm
People in the “Spin Room” behind the Talking heads … fun people watching.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:12 pm
Brandon Marshall on the pregame was as he has been on Sunday nights on WMAQ, smart, measured, a pleasure to listen to. here’s hoping that keeps up. isn’t he from Vanderbilt? what’s with our offense….Vandy, three players(?), plus one from Tulane….the new silk stocking Bears.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:13 pm
“This pitching change is brought to you by …”
Bears … clock keeps ticking …no change in score.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:13 pm
Lions still getting shut out. fumble city.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:15 pm
“The Lions begin on their own 13 Yard Line …”
“It’s Raining, it’s pouring ….” The coldest winter I ever saw was the summer I spent in SF … or something to that effect.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:16 pm
whose elbow are they looking at? cutler nearly got his arm torn off some time ago.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:18 pm
Urlacher….smokin!!!!!!
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:19 pm
Tillman has played OUTSTANDING! Urlacheer stuffs the screen … This Just IN … Bears Defense is pretty good …
Bottom of 8 …8 zeros for the Cards on the Box Score.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:20 pm
Forte’s arm …Rub some dirt on it …only got half of a Qtr left …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:21 pm
here comes the thunder….and the weather, not just the Bears. here’s hoping my power stays on.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:21 pm
@Oswego Willy…thanks. husband still has debate coverage on tv, I’m with radio and the bears.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:22 pm
Clock running and running on Lions …
9-0 … “and the hits just keep on Comin’ ..” Lt. (jg) Danny Kaffee.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:23 pm
- amalia -
No problem. Make sure you jump in…
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:25 pm
amalia, glad you’re here.
Your company eliminates the possibility that Willy (or his evil
twin Wily) will post something that would get us both banned.
Willy, I didn’t get food under the door. I got, “Dad, could you shove $20 under the door?” Love those teens.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:25 pm
“And we go to the Top of 9…”
“Lions start deep again, on their 11…”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:26 pm
AA,
“Now is our chance … Dad is distracted …”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:27 pm
Make that Willy, Wily, OR AA will post something over the top.
I have at least six Romney pieces that have shown up in the past half hour.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:28 pm
The evil twin “Wily” is watching Debate Coverage … It may be with a cretain member of the HGOP Caucus, but I don’t like specualtion.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:29 pm
AA, you have more sense then both me and the evil twin Wily …
“The play is being reviewed. The call in the field is an interception by Chicago”
“Rain, Rain go away …1 on, no outs for the Cards …2 outs away from the season ending”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:31 pm
@AA, thanks, but you can never be sure that I will not post something to get ME banned! blankin’ SuhRomneyVandenboschDetroitTigers……..
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:32 pm
“The call has been reversed” That was the 1st time the Lions stooped the Bears ….Bears Defense!
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:33 pm
wow, not much about the debate. Romney officially changing his position on Afghanistan making Rachel Maddow’s head explode.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:34 pm
“I’d keep playing, I don’t think the hard stuff is coming for a while now.” Carl Spackler
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:34 pm
Willy, good point. At least the car keys and weapons are locked down.
Int for Bears Reversed!
Cards 2 outs from toast.
Mitt the same according to 80% of CNN experts.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:34 pm
Cards - down to last “out”
Lions - 3rd and Goal
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:36 pm
Major Wright, come on!!!!!
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:36 pm
4th down, down 13 with 2:46 to play. hate the Lions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:37 pm
intercepted DJ MOOOREEEEEE!!!!!!
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:37 pm
replay? are you kidding me?
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:38 pm
“This Pitching Change is brought to you by … the Cards’ Last Out Left This Season…”
Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers … even more than where I get my Cannoli
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:38 pm
ok, good, back on offense. nice that Cutler’s xray came out ok. Bears red zone defense absolutely punishing awesome.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:39 pm
“As we wait out this rain, and this pitching change, lets play some highlights of the 1977 World Series …”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:39 pm
“Last Strike of the season?”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:41 pm
I’ll always have Oct. 26, 2005.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:41 pm
“Runners ’swim’ to 2nd and 3rd on passed ball”
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:42 pm
2:13 to fade to black for the Lions.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:42 pm
Debate over … sorry …Cards season is now over …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:42 pm
how is it that the Bears have played the Lions for, is it more consecutive years, or more games? cannot remember why that is.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:44 pm
Headlines….
GIANTS COME UP GIANT IN GAME 7
OBAMA & ROMNEY SPAR ON A GLOBAL SCALE
BEAR DOWN - BEARS PITCHING A SHUTOUT
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:44 pm
oops,as in I would think those stats would go with games vs. the dreaded yellow and green team.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:44 pm
===how is it that the Bears have played the Lions for, is it more consecutive years, or more games? cannot remember why that is===
“It’s Science” Ron Burgundy
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:46 pm
East Coast Sports Network wondering which team to push in the Series. poor insular sports media.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:46 pm
Mitt Romney totally reminds me of Ron Burgundy!
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:47 pm
Quick-Poll
Better place to see Bears Football, Soldier Field or Wrigley Field?
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:49 pm
there goes the shutout.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:50 pm
I jinxed the Shutout … that one is on me, all you “Fantasy Football” junkies who have the Bears “D” … My apologizes.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:50 pm
Soldier Field. do you really want to get me started on Wrigley?
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:50 pm
Ron Burgundy. That is perfect.
Please Bears don’t screw this up.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:51 pm
O.W. JINXED BEARS SHUTOUT, GOES INTO HIDING
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:52 pm
Vandy hands!!!!!!!!
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:53 pm
goodnight CapFaxers. fun night. off to watch Tweety barking on MSNBC.
Comment by amalia Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:54 pm
===Soldier Field. do you really want to get me started on Wrigley?===
Ditka and Sayers on the Wrigley grass … just saying …
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:54 pm
Definitely Soldiers Field as we say Downstate.
And to all a goodnight.
AA
Comment by Arthur Andersen Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:55 pm
I am done … catching the train downtown tomorrow, early morning.
Nite all.
AA, and amalia, thanks for keeping ME from being banned … and that evil Wily too.
Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 10:56 pm
How about that Charlie Tillman, Bears fans?
Can you dig it?
Shutout? In the NFL? Mr. Julius Peppers, I like the way you do your business.
Hey, Scwhartz, you can’t score with two No. One picks like Stafford and Johnson?
My momma could score twice with Calvin Johnson (that doesn’t sound right, but you know what I mean; seriously, my mom was cool).
Charley Tillman is, and has been, the most underrated player in the NFL for quite some time.
I have no idea why. The dude is a hammer at corner, and he would be like Troy P or Ed Reed at safety.
Old School Dan Hampton, one of my favorite players of all time, really digs on Charley. Me, too.
Comment by wordslinger Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 11:12 pm
53 Chicagoans tried forcing the Detroit offense into bankruptcy, unfortunately they came up a little short. I wouldn’t say Detroit came Roaring back by any means though..
Comment by Southside cubs/gop fan Monday, Oct 22, 12 @ 11:17 pm
Biggest take-away from debate — Obama admitting that he/his administration has “neglected our economy and education.”
Biggest take-away from Bears game — Urlacher goal line strip and recovery.
Game over!
Comment by unclesam Tuesday, Oct 23, 12 @ 12:03 am