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Lake Forest takes a pass on banning assault weapons

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* Home rule units have ten days from the date of the state concealed carry law’s enactment to ban assault weapons.

I’m kinda surprised that Lake Forest didn’t go through with it…

The Lake Forest City Council elected to let the state determine its fate in regard to assault weapons, despite hundreds of community members attending a recent meeting to urge the council to take a stance on the issue.

After the state legislature recently passed a measure allowing concealed carry of handguns, home-rule municipalities were given 10 days from the time Gov. Pat Quinn signed the law to pass local ordinances on assault weapons. Should they fail to do so, such weapons would be allowed in the communities.

After hours of heated comment on the topic on July 1, the Lake Forest City Council tabled a draft ordinance that would have placed restrictions on assault weapons. Some of those in attendance said they believed the ordinance would be brought up again at the council’s Monday meeting, but the topic was left off the agenda.

Mayor Donald Schoenheider told a packed audience during public comments on Monday that he did not include the item because there was a consensus among members that it would not be passed. He said the draft ordinance was not very strong, and could leave the city open to lawsuits.

He said after consulting with the city attorney and individual members of the council, it was decided the state could better handle imposing weapon bans and restrictions.

* Meanwhile, NRA lobbyist Todd Vandermyde sent over a list early this morning of yesterday’s suburban votes to ban assault weapons…

Batavia – FAILED

Buffalo Grove – passed a bifurcated ordinance Cook yes Lake no
Clarendon Hills – FAILED

Darien – FAILED

Evanston – PASSED modified to exempt C&R licensees

Evergreen Park – FAILED no motion

Flossmoor – FAILED

Gurnee – NO ACTION, DEAD

Lake Forest – TABLED
Lake Zurich – NO BAN. Shell ordinance Failed.
Morton Grove – pending

Round Lake – No Ban
Round Lake Beach – FAILED

Steger – FAILED

University Park— Ban FAILED, storage ordinance passed

Waukegan – FAILED

posted by Rich Miller
Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 1:23 pm

Comments

It seems we have a trend.

Comment by Formerly Known As... Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 1:25 pm
Funny how Todd only sent you the list of the places where it failed, not the ones where it passed. How strange for the NRA to make point but only use part of the data.

Comment by siriusly Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 1:36 pm
Last time I checked, the guys with FOID cards owning / possessing AR-15’s (America’s Favorite Rifle, by the way) aren’t the ones going out victimizing innocent people.

SO why this solution in search of a problem?

Gun bans impact only those disinclined to break the law to begin with!

John

Comment by John Boch Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 1:38 pm
@siriusly did you read the list, there are a couple on there that passed.

Comment by Kevin Highland Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 1:38 pm
and many others that did pass it are not on the list. sorry, it’s not even useful information to put a partial list like that out there

Comment by siriusly Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 1:40 pm
siriusly: If you would be so kind, would you please give us a run-down of municipalities that approved gun bans *last night* that Todd left out?

Thanks.

Comment by John Boch Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 1:40 pm
Yesterday’s votes. Looks right to me.

Comment by Roman Umpire Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 1:44 pm
These places all could have passed ordinances at any time over the past 20 years.

They chose not to do so.

Why would they suddenly want to do so now?
Since nothing has really changed, of course the bills are going to fail.

Comment by VonKlutzenplatz Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 1:47 pm
Chicago moving toward APPROVE column. Committee on Public Safety passed assault weapons ban this afternoon. Goes to full City Council tomorrow.

Comment by Spike Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 1:52 pm
somebody remind me how municipalities in Cook County are affected by County laws?

Comment by Amalia Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 2:01 pm
@siriously
Do you have a list of those that have passed an AWB? Or is the above list only those that have even had it on their agenda? Just wondering.

Comment by the unknown poster Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 2:02 pm
Note that Cook County’s assault weapon ban is STILL being challenged in court (Wilson v. Cook County), which may have led some towns into forgetting the whole thing out of fear of being sued if this or another case holds outright bans unconstitutional.

Comment by CrookCounty60827 Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 2:05 pm
Of course Vandermyde didn’t mention that several towns, including HIGHLAND PARK and DEERFIELD, passed ordinances last month. Deerfield’s didn’t ban assault weapons outright (while Highland Park did), but they can always do that later as they have a law on the books.

Comment by 'Goose Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 2:11 pm
===passed ordinances last month===

This was yesterday’s list, not last month’s list.

Comment by Rich Miller Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 2:12 pm
In Urbana we were told that Open Meetings Act requirements stymied our efforts — ten days wasn’t enough time to get it on the agenda in time for last Monday’s meeting, and there are no more meetings until August.

Comment by Stuff happens Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 2:19 pm
Lake Forrest has a lot of property that needs protection. So why not have the option of protecting it with an assault weapon. Plus I bet some of those rich guys have some pretty exotic gun collections. It’s not like Lake Forrest residents tend to randomly shoot each other like they do down in Chicago.

Comment by Jack Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 3:20 pm
Ah guys, last night we had what about a dozen city coucil meetings? I was focused on those.

And I am compiling a complete list os action. I will readily note the deerfield passed a storage/transportation ordinance. Highland park passed a new ban , thank you rep drury, i owe you a beer.

Homewood and hazelcrest were last week. We didnt get any notice on those. North Chicago passed one that I am still trying to make sense of.

Chicago is going to amend theirs and they got an introduction to Todd today at their committee. Cook will tinker with thiers, but both already had them so not much new.

But younshould have heard the aldermen whine about how their ordinance was gutted.

By my count its running about 8 new ones to 40 NOs give or take

Comment by Todd Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 3:59 pm
===they got an introduction to Todd today at their committee===

I’m sure you were given a warm, friendly reception.

Comment by Rich Miller Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 4:06 pm
urbana lied to you .. they found out champaign had no plans to even bring up a AWB.. and never even proposed a ordinance theyve had a chance to do since may 31st.

Comment by c Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 4:27 pm
was kinda of stupid for urbana to attempt one without champaign on board.. drive across the intersection and its perfectly legal.. so the same scary features would of been attached the very city proposing the ban.

Comment by c Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 4:30 pm
Rich ther chairman was nice. But they ad a lot of chest pumping early, but only 3 asked ma a question and it wasn’t that bad. They just might bot care for the answers

Comment by Todd Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 4:31 pm
Home rule has it’s place, but gun regulations shouldn’t be on the list of home rule powers. There are certain things that should be decided on a statewide basis and this is one of those things.

Comment by Demoralized Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 4:34 pm
“….they got an introduction to Todd…..” how royal we of you.

Comment by Amalia Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 4:41 pm
Yea Amilia, for all the high brow chest thumping, it seems they are not use to people telling them that they can’t do something and if they do its going to cost them lots of $$$$$ and my track record proves it.

Funny thing that their corp consel didn’t dispute anything I said. So those aldercreatures who think that it lords, serfs and knaives got some push back.

Comment by Todd Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 4:48 pm
methinks thou dost boast too much.

Comment by Amalia Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 4:56 pm
The Tribune has some “app” they claim allows you to navigate thru the NE Illinois municipalities that are/have/or going to consider. Maybe my operating system isn’t up to date enough to move thru the map but it was not very helpful.

Comment by dupage dan Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 4:57 pm
when you have as many wins under your belt as he does maybe you could boast a lil too….

Comment by c Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 5:01 pm
=it seems they are not use to people telling them that they can’t do something==

That sounds kind of arrogant. Like you said, you can tell them you will sue them but I don’t think you have the authority to tell them they “can’t” do something.

Comment by Demoralized Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 5:04 pm
“Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance.”

Comment by Amalia Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 5:24 pm
Todd’s blood type is AR-15

Todd can tie up people with a cordless phone

Todd will never have a heart attack. His heart isn’t foolish enough to attack him.

Todd can start a fire by rubbing two ice cubes together.

Comment by Dozer Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 5:51 pm
D - I pointed out the actions they wish to take are beyond their authority and powers. Legally they can’t I’d they feel themselves above the law so be it I seem to recal a federal judge condemning them for thumbing the municipal nose at the court

Some times the truth hurts

Comment by Todd Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 6:22 pm
Meh, the Illinois NRA has been winning big in the federal courts, and small local governments aren’t looking to pay opposing lawyer fees for symbolic measures.

That ain’t lobbying, that’s lawyering.

Comment by wordslinger Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 6:36 pm
“That ain’t lobbying, that’s lawyering.”

And we’re happy as clams for it.

Comment by Confused Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 7:04 pm
=== That ain’t lobbying, that’s lawyering ===

The work of an effective advocate, legal or otherwise, is to know what tactics to use and when. Do you object to the effective strategies? Why use what won’t work? To fit your definition of a lobbyist?

Comment by dupage dan Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 7:39 pm
Dozer, I’ll bet Todd prefers Dos Equis too (lol).

Comment by Soccertease Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 9:27 pm
Buffalo Grove, come on? Two rules in the same village!

Comment by Aw Shucks Tuesday, Jul 16, 13 @ 11:50 pm