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* There’s a debate at 6 o’clock…
The 2014 Illinois Republican gubernatorial candidates will participate in a forum on Tuesday, March 4, co-sponsored by NBC 5 Chicago and the University of Chicago’s Institute of Politics and Harris School of Public Policy, at 6:00 p.m.
All four candidates in the Republican primary —Bill Brady, Kirk Dillard, Bruce Rauner and Dan Rutherford — will participate in this first-ever partnership between UChicago and NBC 5.
The 60-minute forum will be broadcast live on NBC 5 (WMAQ-TV) from the David and Reva Logan Center for the Arts’ Performance Hall. The event will also be webcast live and will include an additional 30-minute question-and-answer session with the audience at the end.
There’s no link on NBC’s website yet, but help out in comments if you can.
* Also tonight…
New Illinois GOP Gov tracking poll being conducted tonight. Results around 8 PM. http://t.co/j6M1ULUiF1
— We Ask America Polls (@weaskamericapol) March 4, 2014
posted by Rich Miller
Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 3:02 pm
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Is this the last debate?
There should be some nice exchanges between Rauner, Dillard and Brady.
Comment by Formerly Known As... Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 3:28 pm
There’s a debate tomorrow as well on Channel 9, as well. I’ll be attending tonight’s.
Comment by Lunchbox Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 3:37 pm
Looks like you can watch the debate here- http://politics.uchicago.edu/news/entry/nbc-live-feed
Comment by littleone Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 3:46 pm
(fajitas and apple pie, vanilla ice cream, and coffee at the ready…)
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 3:48 pm
I am going to watch, but I don’t think it will change my mind. We will see.
Comment by DuPage Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 3:52 pm
Thanks, @Lunchbox.
I just read that there are apparently 3 debates left, including tonight. Good times.
Comment by Formerly Known As... Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 3:57 pm
It’s like watching the 4th Quarter of a football game when the outcome is no longer in doubt. You can enjoy the individual plays, you know that overall there are more useful things to do.
Comment by Percival Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 4:06 pm
Will David Axelrod be asking questions (since he runs U of C’s Institute of Politics), or is he disqualified as a D?
Comment by Illinois taxpayer Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 4:32 pm
@ Illinois taxpayer -
No, Carol Marin from Channel 5 will be doing the questioning.
Comment by Joan P. Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 5:15 pm
It looks like this link will have the broadcast, but, I’m not sure since it hasn’t started yet (it’s one of those we’ll be right back blank feeds ATM).
http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Illinois-GOP-Gubernatorial-Candidates-Forum-248437761.html
Comment by anon Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 5:54 pm
So it begins….
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:00 pm
Minimum Wage…no numbers.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:03 pm
Lighting stinks, as an aside
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:05 pm
Anyone else’s freezing up?
Comment by A Modest Proposal Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:06 pm
Raunerbot talking points about himself and self-funding.
All buzzwords
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:07 pm
Mine’s freezing up too.
Comment by JB Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:08 pm
Brady = awesome calling out statement of Rauner “Whatever it takes to win!” Well done Brady.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:08 pm
Carol Marin calls out task forces …
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:11 pm
Marin, “Those are career politicians!” lol
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:12 pm
Brady says… Rauner sounds more like Blagojevich.
More like this please…
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:14 pm
I’m back. Income tax/Civic Fed-
-Dillard-don’t tax pensions
-Rauner-finally called out on career pol’s nonsense
-Brady-Rauner is like Blago
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:14 pm
Pension discussion … All talking around it, Rauner wants 401K starting anew. Bad on Brady with Detroit.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:17 pm
Payton Prep hammer…
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:18 pm
Pensions-
Mostly blather. Rauner’s freeze doesn’t do.what he says and the rest didn’t answer.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:18 pm
Obama Ad rears its head. Commercial? Yikes.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:19 pm
Payton Prep- Bruce’s memory has recovered.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:20 pm
Wow, Marin hammer soft spots - now Rutherford non disclosure of the report… Wow
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:21 pm
Man, “These are your Achilles heel!” - Brady on business woes…
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:22 pm
Charter schools - Rutherford, no public money, Dillard, same as Rutherford…Rauner, choice is critical, major transformation and public investment, no ISAT, vouchers… Brady, choice and competition… vouchers
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:25 pm
Those guys should have all anticipated those questions. Bad form across the board.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:27 pm
Schooling and expulsions…finances and funding
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:27 pm
In other news, Michigan 36, Illinois 17 7:22 1st half.
Ouch.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:29 pm
- AA -, agreed. You know your weaknesses, hot to be better.
Bad form all.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:29 pm
Yikes, Mitch Daniels…
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:31 pm
Rutherford’s face on the question of having SS couple stay at the Mansion was just …Wow
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:32 pm
What terrible form on that question to Rutherford.
Comment by Johnny Q. Suburban Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:32 pm
I expected better from Carol Marin.
Comment by Johnny Q. Suburban Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:33 pm
CC question fun. Glad to hear responses
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:33 pm
Death Penalty - interesting answers as to criteria, if they have them, and how “safe” is safe.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:35 pm
Tacky, tacky.
Better form on the goofy ccw question.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:36 pm
Rutherford now seems angrier then when it started….
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:40 pm
Jobs
Dullard blab.blab blab
Rauner outta the park
Brady good but canned
Rut canned
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:42 pm
Business creation talking points abound…
Medicaid now, boilerplate response from Rauner, Brady goes after Dillard w/Obamacare
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:42 pm
Marin is all over this Career Politican / Rauner … wow
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:44 pm
Rahm-ruhroh.
Young leaders? Blago?
Brady-stay on the attack. Don’t let up.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:47 pm
Rauner is battlin’ - struggling to get footing below him. Brady goes offensive, can’t name those close to Rauner but Levine. Better prep of Brady was needed to be impactful. Missed opportunity, Rauner gave openings…
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:47 pm
Why didn’t Marin ask Rauner why he’s spent $6 million plus of his own money, besides another $8 million plus from other sources, taking over (hijacking) the GOP in Illinois?
Comment by Wensicia Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:48 pm
How could you not ask Rauner about the demonization of state employees? Terrible. Inexcusable. I’m very disappointed in how this whole thing has been conducted.
Comment by Johnny Q. Suburban Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:49 pm
State workers
Rut say thanks plan ahead. Good.
Brady No. Not get rid of ISBE.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:50 pm
Rutherford is really engaged and angry/passionate and walking that line fairly well.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:51 pm
What a disaster.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:52 pm
Corruption - fair maps, ethics, US Attorney mentioned. Term limits, business super stars, Daniels, Union Bosses…MJM by Brady, ironies of Brady talking maps …
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:55 pm
All looking very ill-prepared for Marin and these questions.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:55 pm
Don’t mess with the NRA and the 2nd Amendment.
Comment by Wensicia Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:57 pm
Wow. Fiascos abound.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:57 pm
Ill-prepared but Carol’s biases are showing a bit by now. Geez.
Time for pie, OW?
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:59 pm
Just heated, added ala mode my friend
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 6:59 pm
Brady still doesn’t get that people vote.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:00 pm
Gaming - nothing really impactful.
Ex offenders back in society? Interesting question to be asked
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:01 pm
Koch Brothers? Yikes, there aren’t other better questions?
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:02 pm
Sounds good. No pie but I have plenty of the ala mode. Going to make up a sundae.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:03 pm
Dopiest question yet…
Model Governor???
Dillard, great laugh line, no mention of Edgar.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:03 pm
Pandering to likeable governors.
What is this, high school prom kings or queens?
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:05 pm
Rutherford most thoughtful to Prom King/Queen governors. Nice
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:06 pm
Good for Kirk for making the Edgar joke before someone else did.
No surprise on yours, Bruce.
Bill, ok.
Interesting twist on lack of awareness Dan
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:07 pm
Brady mentions TX and FL with no income tax. is he clueless or what????
Comment by PoolGuy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:08 pm
Going back I wish someone would have said who.are the Koch Brothers?
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:08 pm
Texas has oil/gas and FL has tourism, which is why they don’t need or have to have an income tax. bad comparison Bill
Comment by PoolGuy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:09 pm
- AA -, nice, that would have been a nice move towards Marin and the question…
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:10 pm
It seems like Carol Marin was expecting real answers to questions rather than rehearsed sound bites. Hasn’t she seen one of these “debates” before?
Comment by DuPage Dave Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:10 pm
How about that you vacation with Rahm… Dopey advoidance
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:10 pm
Agreement on graduated tax but for different reasons.
Huh.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:11 pm
Dillard makes Rahm points well. Nicely done.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:11 pm
Cheap shot Carol.
Dan/Rahm-”we’re Conversant” lol
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:14 pm
Carol/Edgar shot… bad form
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:15 pm
Rauner talking himself in a circle on “bribe” word.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:16 pm
Rauner explains the massive conspiracy. Dope.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:17 pm
so Bruce tobacco companies, oil companies, coal companies don’t have special interests when they contribute???? what a clueless dope head.
Comment by PoolGuy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:17 pm
Brady hammers Levine on Rauner - way to go!!!
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:17 pm
Go Bill!
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:18 pm
Rauner struggling to explain away conflicts
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:18 pm
nice shot Bill finally someone hammered him on his BS
Comment by PoolGuy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:19 pm
Just when it starts going somewhere meaningful, let’s cut to Telemundo? Oy.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:21 pm
Did Dillard just forger his Kira’s ages?
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:22 pm
So tough to see Brucie bumbling and struggling…!
Comment by Just The Way It Is One Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:23 pm
Make that kids ages and he blew the question as well.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:24 pm
Tough for Rutherford to talk about Staff? Nope.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:24 pm
Never expect to be asked or volunteer your kids’ ages, but if you bring it up, better know it … lol. It is what it is I guess.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:25 pm
Decriminalizing Heroin? What?
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:26 pm
I love pie …
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:28 pm
MJM breakfast…love it.
No Rauner direct answers …lol
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:29 pm
Met with Legislatures…duh. I’m transformational…
Comment by Samurai Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:29 pm
What a goofy closer.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:29 pm
Goofier closer?
“Favorite color?” …yikes.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:30 pm
Rauner is proving time and again he cannot directly answer any question, no matter how simple. wow
Comment by PoolGuy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:31 pm
Dillard-”that administration I ran”
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:32 pm
Winners and Losers?
Winning points, Losing points is probably better.
No one lost tonght, couple stumbles, some even Marin induced …
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:32 pm
Rauner was most evasive, and given that Marin called him on some evasiveness was obvious. All four handeled the “achilles’ heel” question poorer than poor…
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:34 pm
Brady is probably the true conservative, Rutherford the moderate Republican, Dillard I can’t figure out anymore, and Rauner is none of the above.
Comment by PoolGuy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:35 pm
Willy, honest to Pete I was expecting “Boxers or Briefs” st the rate they were going. This was a lot of.Carol and not much of the U of C.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:35 pm
The talk of the talk WILL be the question on SS couple staying at the Mansion and addressing it towards Rutherford… and that LOOK Rutherford gave … and the pregant pause … wil be yapped about.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:37 pm
Nobody damaged Rauner enough to change things, though he certainly did not look good tonight. He’s going to be taking some serious heat in the General, and he’d best come up with better than he put out tonight.
Comment by Percival Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:37 pm
It had that MTV feel at times … and cringe-worthy moments that focused around those types of questions, for sure. Actually, when they were answering the Dopey questions is when I got another fajita, heated up my pie, got the ice cream … just turned up the TV …
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:40 pm
Groucho:
” Say the Secret Word and a Duck will come down and Give You Fifty Dollars”
Tonight’s Secret Word was ____________ ?
Comment by x ace Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:41 pm
Biggest Loser(s)?
Staff on the not having some answers ready to prepare these guys for the “achilles’ heel”.
Really? Obama Ad, Failed Business issues, Payton Prep … a report paid for by taxpayers.
Gentleman, you are running for Governor. These are not new issues, or issues that haven’t warrented thought.
Prep was weak and that is where it showed.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:44 pm
The lighting looked shadowy on Rauner-not flattering. Was it that way on teevee?
Mm, Ice cream.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:49 pm
yeah, - AA -, the lighting was awful for Rauner, seemed as though the Podium was placed incorrectly, and his height exaserbated the missing mark of the Poduim.
Again, no one from NBC5 or any campaign decided to look at this? Marin looked like, at times, like she had a flashlight aimed from below towards her nose and eyes …
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 7:51 pm
The lighting was horrible. Rutherford looked like a corpse from a horror movie, and Brady looked like a villain out of Dick Tracy. Only Dillard clicked with his lighting.
Comment by Percival Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 8:04 pm
Poll is out. Dillard is losing ground
Guess the teacher endorsement came with a cost
Comment by Downstate Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 8:04 pm
Any news on the poll?
Comment by A Modest Proposal Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 8:05 pm
I saw on the Tweeter this afternoon a “Dress Rehearsal” for this event and it now dawns on me why the lighting was off. They had young ladies standing in place for the candidates - even though a couple were standing on a box, the height discrepancy was too great. Whoops.
The debate yesterday had a number of sound problems, tonight lights. Live HD teevee away from the studio may be harder to pull off than it seems.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 8:05 pm
http://weaskamerica.com/2014/03/04/il-gop-gov-tracker/
Comment by A Modest Proposal Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 8:13 pm
@Downstate-
Nothing to do with teacher endorsement, I would expect.
More about Rauner spending money comparing Dillard and Brady to Quinn.
There is a silver lining in these crosstabs for Quinn.
Comment by Yellow Dog Democrat Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 8:14 pm
- Yellow Dog Democrat -,
Agreed, the tabs leave openings for Quinn.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 8:16 pm
Where was McKenna polling two weeks out?
Comment by Samurai Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 8:21 pm
Ydd
But just last week everyone was saying that rauner had peaked and that the hit pieces would be his undoing.
Comment by Downstate Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 8:40 pm
The trend line isn’t looking good for the only candidate with a shot to beat Rauner: Undecided.
Comment by Anonymous Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 8:46 pm
Brady 2nd after Rauner in Cook county. interesting
Comment by PoolGuy Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 9:03 pm
@Downstate-
“Everyone” did not include me or Oswego Willy.
In the history of Illinois politics, I don’t think any candidate has every come back to win from 25 points down in three weeks. Certainly not in a four way race while being outspent 20 to 1.
I will say Rauner proved tonight that he is still a rookie. 25 points up and he’s still pitching a plan to bring back the death penalty?
Comment by Yellow Dog Democrat Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 11:11 pm
After this poll, you should understand today’s Rauner commercial. He’s no longer running against primary opponents, he’s running against Quinn. And it’s morning in America baby!
Comment by Anon Tuesday, Mar 4, 14 @ 11:27 pm
Thanks, - YDD -, for having my back as well.
Yeah that “everyone” - I think my memory is like yours as to … “everyone”. We didn’t say Rauner peaked.
Raunerbots are fun. They hear what they want, believe what they are told, and play a victim, this time of “peaking” and they “overcame” a straw man statement, “everyone” says.
Appreciate that you read and comprehend, - YDD -.
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Mar 5, 14 @ 6:45 am
Okay, my bad,
Define me with names if you wish. So many on this board were saying Rauner would never get above 2nd place. He was a retread of McKenna and Hull.
I think he is tapping into a deep frustration in the electorate.
I look forward to the general election where we can talk about the glories of the Quinn governorship.
Comment by Downstate Wednesday, Mar 5, 14 @ 6:57 am
=== I think he is tapping into a deep frustration in the electorate. ===
True. However, Bruce Rauner will give that electorate something very different than what they will be expecting.
Comment by Bill White Wednesday, Mar 5, 14 @ 7:15 am
===True. However, Bruce Rauner will give that electorate something very different than what they will be expecting.===
Very well said. Good observation, it may be true, and either way, a Rauner as “Governor-Elect” will set that tone early as to who will be disappointed first.
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Mar 5, 14 @ 7:19 am
Rauner has it in the bag.
The three veteran losers can’t even beat Undecided.
Once Rauner wins next week, he reveals himself to be a moderate-liberal GOPer favoring a lot of the progressive agenda. Quinn - has nothing but a $50,000,000 scandal to deal with until election day.
Comment by VanillaMan Wednesday, Mar 5, 14 @ 8:21 am
“Yep.
In the bag.
President Dewey”
Gotta finish. Always gotta finish.
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Mar 5, 14 @ 8:29 am
Ok,
For those who saw it… The Dan answer to the sleep arrangements question…
Was he joking about separate rooms (due to the room sharing stuff with him) or not…
Comment by OneMan Wednesday, Mar 5, 14 @ 8:35 am
OneMan-
I believe Rutherford was joking. I laughed out loud, either way.
Comment by Lunchbox Wednesday, Mar 5, 14 @ 10:48 am
In all of the forums, Bruce Rauner gives the same pre-packaged responses that involve “transformation” and “shake up.” I know he’s pressing his themes, but does that annoy any one else after a while? I am undecided between Dillard and Rauner. I know it probably doesn’t matter because it looks like Rauner is going to run up the score on March 18th, but I’ll watch tonight’s debate and probably the next one as well.
Comment by Lunchbox Wednesday, Mar 5, 14 @ 10:54 am