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* The BGA has a story about how Glenn Poshard boosted his pension to over $200K a year…
The key element in how Poshard built his enviable retirement cushion was winning election to the state Senate. Of all Illinois state pensions, none is as generous as the one legislators created for themselves — the General Assembly Retirement System, or GARS.
That allowed Poshard to start his retirement with a pension of 85 percent of his state salary when he started collecting his pension in 2003 after retiring for the first time from SIU.
Poshard also understood early on that there were ways to boost his pension. At 42, while running for Congress in 1988, then-state Sen. Poshard contacted GARS about his future pension. According to a handwritten note in his file at the pension fund, Poshard “was leaving town & wanted to know right away” what it would cost to buy pension credit for the two years left in his Senate term. The note said: “situation discussed at length during office visit of 11/17/88.”
Poshard paid $7,860 to get pension credit for 23 months of the Senate term he didn’t serve. That gave him credit for seven years in the Senate, though he served five. It was money well spent, boosting his current pension by $20,000 a year, records show.
Poshard later bought 1.25 years of pension credits in the State Universities Retirement System for jobs he had nearly 30 years earlier while an undergraduate at SIU. The credits cost him $5,598. They add $5,000 a year to his pension.
He also was allowed to buy 2.5 years of credit from the university pension system for his time in the U.S. Army in the 1960s. He wasn’t in the Army long enough to qualify for a military pension.
Poshard, of course, is a member of Bruce Rauner’s transition team. Rauner has repeatedly blasted state pensions, but they refused to take the BGA’s bait…
“Dr. Poshard has a tremendous amount of knowledge about southern Illinois, as well as the university system, and is respected across party lines,” the Rauner spokesman said. “His role with the transition is voluntary and not focused on pension issues.”
posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:14 am
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I hate it when people say’I TOLD YOU SO!!’ That is why I try to never say ‘ITOLD YOU SO!’ It is also apparently bad form to point out corruption in Illinois because so many people just love corruption! So I will just have to refrain from commenting, thank you, and have a nice day.
Comment by William j Kelly Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:22 am
This…is the part that made the tax hike so hard to swallow to pay for pensions. Telling someone making 40K a year they need to give up a weeks pay per year while people can manipulate the system to be millionaires many times over off of our backs. There is no private company on earth that would allow this nonsense to go on.
Comment by Very Fed Up Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:22 am
BGA is right those benefits are too generous. But Poshard didn’t design the pension plan, he just took advantage of what was available.
Comment by Name/Nickname/Anon Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:24 am
WJK - hate the game, not the player. There’s nothing corrupt, or illegal about what Poshard did. Just smart. If you had the chance you would do the same thing. Just like Quinn would trade checking accounts with Rauner in a heartbeat despite running ads bashing the “billionaire Repbulican” the entire campaign. Jealousy is a stinky cologne.
Comment by SO. ILL Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:26 am
Silly unions, government worker pensions are for billion dollar corporations like GTCR and Rauner transition team members. How dare we think otherwise?
Comment by Grandson of Man Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:29 am
Indeed the blame is not with Poshard, but 100% on the backs of the politicians who have allowed this to happen. The regime currently in charge will close hospitals, cut school funding, raid the middle class with a tax hike yet won’t touch absurdities like this with a 10 foot pole.
Comment by Very Fed Up Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:30 am
Poshard played the system like so many others before him. The system is rigged for the insiders from the powerful professions who lobby and play the inside game. This is exhibit A of why Illinois’ fiscal foundation is crumbling. Our kids and grandkids will not respect the current crop of Illinois “leaders” on this and so many other issues. Shameful.
Comment by NW Illinois Dem Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:31 am
And SO IL, no, I wouldn’t do the same thing as Poshard. That’s the difference between some of us. Just because you can get away with something doesn’t mean you do it. But, again, this is why future generations are going to look back on this period in Illinois as disgustingly selfish and irresponsible, causing our fiscal foundation to crumble.
Comment by NW Illinois Dem Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:33 am
Can’t say I wouldn’t do the same thing. But it sure doesn’t look good if you are still going to be a public figure. If I was from Southern Illinois, and had a 200k pension, you would see me at the Land Between the Lakes 100 times before you see me once in Springfield….
Comment by Ducky LaMoore Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:33 am
Those poor state workers, deserving of their pensions because of their less than market-rate government salaries.
Comment by Thinktoomuch Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:37 am
In truth, there are very few state pensioners with this sort of pension! This is one of those exceptions where a person has worked and paid into more than one pension system. Poshard took advantage of his options with each pension system and had the means to pay for the additional credits.
The vast majority have only one pension and do not receive a six-figure pension.
Comment by Nearly Normal Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:38 am
Glen Poshard has a tremendous amount of knowledge about the pension system, and the pension system and the pension system. Too bad Rauner does not have Poshard helping to reform it. But them with the gold will stay with the the rules and the ruler that bring more gold.
Comment by vole Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:41 am
Agree with NW Illinois Dem, not everyone would do it. I do blame Poshard. When he was doing it, he knew it was wrong. There is a difference at times between legal right and wrong and moral/ethical right and wrong. Congrats, Glenn, it was not illegal…but it was blatantly immoral and unethical. And you knew it.
Just because others have OK’d it and done it does not mean real leaders should not try to fix it rather than position themselves to take advantage of it.
Comment by Shameful Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:43 am
This story is more about Andy Shaw and his eternal quest for publicity. The TV news kept calling it “loop holes” as did Spotlight Andy as there was something improper in what Poshard did. Everything was perfectly legal. The only thing that makes it appear to be a story is the amount…and that is such a one-off that it is just tabloid journalism.
Comment by D.P.Gumby Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:46 am
Our part-time legislators are always going on about how their benefits must be superior because otherwise no one would agree to sacrifice the time needed for public service. They will also go on about how they could be hauling down more in the private sector.
Of course, full-time legislators are the exception to the rule. Many manage to hold second jobs. Frequently, government jobs, but I digress.
Illinois is too generous with many of its elected officials.
Comment by Under Further Review Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:46 am
Over 99.9% of State workers, as well as existing State retirees, will never see even a fraction of this $200K pension that Mr. Poshard receives. And as said in above comments, change the law that allows such inflated pensions. Don’t point the blame at the person that merely follows the allowable rules set in place. We are lucky to have a man of his talent and experience. So just change the rules going forward so that this isn’t allowed in the future. I believe that average pension is closer to $20,000 per year, far from being too high for the years given to State service.
Comment by Capitol Fax Follower Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:47 am
this stinks big time. it may be “legal” but it still stinks. pension credit for senate years not served, stinks. getting credit for service years earlier, that cheaply, stinks. (i thought he would have to make a payment PLUS interest–thats what i was told when i wanted to do something similar).
what is his retirement as a % of his highest salary earned?
Comment by Langhorne Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:52 am
The Ted Lechowicz of his day, poster child of politician at the trough.
It’s shameless schemers like this who put in peril the pensions of regular working stiffs. Buying credits from a job he had 30 years before in college? Ugh.
He clams he was just following the rules. He neglects to mention that he helped make the rules.
Rauner needs to shake up his transition team. There’s no credibility to claims of doing away with business as usual when you have this guy hanging around.
Comment by Wordslinger Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:52 am
Very Fed Up “Indeed the blame is not with Poshard, but 100% on the backs of the politicians who have allowed this to happen.” I agree with the rest of your post but let’s not give Poshard and others like him a free pass. Poshard was a member of the Senate and was an influencer that could have fixed the system. When he saw a vulnerability in the system, rather than address it he selfishly worked to exploit it. These nice guy politicians that “work” the system rather than fixing it cannot be given a pass if we expect any of the current legislators to feel enough public pressure to work toward actual reforms of the system.
Comment by Worth It Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:55 am
NWID 11:31 - I fear that will be the legacy of the Baby Boomer generation in total when all is said and done. This country went from the “all together” efforts of the Greatest Generation to the mess the “me” generation is leaving our heirs.
Comment by Original Rambler Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:55 am
It should be illegal, Rauner you need to make it illegal asap, and tell your buddy to give back voluntarily what he shouldn’t have been able to “buy”. That is absurd!!!!!
Comment by Decatur gal Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 11:58 am
Consider the example of Kurt Granberg who received an extra $40,000.00 per year on top of his legislative pension of $73,000 per year for holding the director position of the IDNR for 19 days! The IL legislature actually reformed this practice but Granberg was grandfathered in so he grabbed the golden ring. Granberg to us: watch this swing!
Comment by vole Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:06 pm
It’s disgusting that a story like this will be extrapolated to be the story of every single person who works in the public domain.( We will all be suspect as collecting millions/year. I think my neighbors already suspect I do, simply because I collect a state pension.) Of course there are more but that I should have to take a cut in my $1200/month pension and have it regarded as extravagant by taxpayers is the ultimate of stupidity. Change the laws so this stuff can’t happen and go after people who abuse the system but don’t make “regular, playing by the rules” retirees or employees pay the penalty for these shenanigans! And quite interesting that GARS is the most deluxe pension plan but those in it are all too willing to cut the other pension plans.
Comment by Anonymous Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:07 pm
Poshard is a big name and is pulling down big pension money thanks to his astute knowledge of the vagaries of the different systems to which he belonged. But there are a lot of people nobody ever heard of who got end of career promotions that boosted their pension payouts well above what they’d otherwise have received without the help they got.
I’m thinking of what happens in school districts all across the state, promoting teachers to assistance superintendents for the final few years of a long career.
You’d think the other teachers, and AFSCME for that matter, would be first in line trying to get these laws fixed to prevent this stuff. Part of the reason some of these funds are underwater is precisely because of gaming the system to take out far more than a person put in. AFT, IEA, FOP, AFSCME etc. should be representing all of their members, not just the connected few who jeopardize the entire pension system.
Comment by 47th Ward Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:11 pm
There were a number of people here suggesting that Poshard be part of a bipartisan effort. Now, he’s tainted. If it’s useful to go through the process, let’s cite every name of every person who has these kinds of benefits being paid out. It’ll be quite a list. Back in the day…they even got to convert their political accounts to personal income too. These abuses weren’t rare enough…and the regular stiffs are paying for it.
They’re more that just some well known names too. This system has been reformed quite a bit since this time and needs more reform. Maybe he’s a good reminder of this. Tier 2 solves some problems, but it will take some time to show the effect. People live a long time now. While these “generous” pensions are in the minority of pensioners, it’s not a small number of people getting them. For each of these, they are collecting several times what others are. You don’t need that many of them to bleed your system.
Gotta fix it. now.
Comment by A guy... Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:13 pm
“Indeed, Poshard followed the rules.”
But by all means let’s run a 500+ word story in a major Chicago newspaper to ding him up.
I could foresee this story backfiring on Shaw and whoever planted it. Not only does this make him a more visible member of the Governor-elect’s team, but it reminds southern Illinois, where he is still enormously popular, that he’s with Rauner.
Comment by Stan in Ascent Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:13 pm
It will take a lot of gall to attack state pensions with this news. The hypocrisy will reek.
But hypocrisy is a strong suit in this state by politicians in both political parties.
Comment by Federalist Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:15 pm
I agree 47th Ward. The teachers and other unions would gain a lot of credibility with the public at large by loudly calling out abuses like this. The overwhelming majority have not manipulated the system and are reliant on a reasonable pension for retirement. Why sit silent while a connected few undermine the system.
Comment by Very Fed Up Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:18 pm
If people aren’t supposed to be taking advantage of these opportunities, then remove the opportunity. Don’t say that someone is un-ethical for using an existing opportunity. Why shouldn’t Poshard have used the military time - wasn’t he eligible for it just like all other military veterans who are state workers?
If the issue is the GARS overly beneficial pension, then change that. Don’t blame all state workers for what GARS only gave themselves.
Comment by mythoughtis Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:18 pm
People will read this and think all state employees get this type of pension. The article says the GA is the most generous. Most state employees that actually work have an average of their last 4 out of 10 years to have the pension calculated on. I know I will get about 1400 per month when I retire - and I will have about a 400 per month insurance bill besides general living expenses. And don’t forget all the taxes. Is that too generous? I think not
Comment by ALMOST THERE Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:21 pm
Would a newly elected legislator be able to do this?
Comment by Anyone Remember Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:21 pm
I will bet Poshard is glad he lost that race for Governor years ago. When he took the job,never in his wildest dreams would he have thought he could game the system and get this kind of pension.
Comment by Apocalypse Now Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:35 pm
I’m shocked. Shocked! That a political insider who plagiarized his doctoral dissertation would game the pension system for personal gain.
As others have stated, he’s a 1 percenter who exploited EVERY loophole, and shouldn’t be lumped in with the typical pensioner.
Comment by Jocko Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:49 pm
Just think it looks bad when an advisor is part of the pension problem. Can’t wait to hear what Mr. Poshard thinks is the solution.
Comment by Bourbonrich Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:50 pm
Why do we pile on those who receive the pensions, who have done nothing but follow the rules, instead of berating the system that allows it?
This is nothing but a gotcha story by the BGA.
Comment by Demoralized Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:51 pm
So who will be the next one to pad their pension? You can bet your bottom dollar a lot of back room deals still being cut.
Comment by Big dummy Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:56 pm
The system is gamed and Poshard played it like a master. Just because it is legal doesn’t make it right. This is a prime example of why people don’t trust government. There is a sweetheart deal in this that stomps all over the taxpayers and climbs over the average state employee.
Legal cheating is still cheating.
Comment by Aldyth Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:57 pm
==Legal cheating==
There’s an oxymoron.
Comment by Demoralized Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 12:59 pm
The best news is William Kelly is gone for the day. Maybe he is filing those petitions
Comment by Outsider Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 1:07 pm
It takes two things to pig out like this: greed and opportunity. Many have the opportunity but are willing to continue to do their job and retire at a fair pension at a reasonable age. Others, as the cynics posting here point out, would if they could, but don’t have the inside track that Poshard had. There are those who dig in deeper at the trough, but they should not taint the image of the average Government retiree. Is it legal? I guess, but in the end we all have to look in the mirror.
Comment by orzo Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 1:23 pm
in my head I’m singing “Glen Poshard the Pension King” to the tune of the Pumpkin King from Nightmare Before Christmas. that movie has a very fond image of the mayor figure whose head turns around with two faces, one fake happy and the other angry. great action figure. and sad pol commentary.
Comment by Amalia Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 1:45 pm
Money hungry.
Poshard would’ve gotten a retirement income letter reporting how much he has received and how much he actually contributed. Reality check.
Comment by Emily Booth Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 1:46 pm
Actually SURS sends you a letter with your contribution and the “interest” your have earned along with the state’s “contribution” and the “interest” earned. I use quotes because you don’t get credit for those items until you retire and then you get an “annuity contract.” When you buy back time served you have to pay back interest on the money that the state would have “paid” SURS some time ago stopped the military and part time purchases which were considered good recruiting tools way back when.
Comment by Liberty Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 2:07 pm
A 2 term congressman’s pension is over $17,000/year you have to have served at least 5 years to be vested; Poshard serve’rd 4 terms. His Federal pension is $17,588/year for 6 years work. He was taught how to fluff up his numbers from other “Public servants” And it’s not just POLs
The insiders fixed the IL state system for themselves like the 40 retired union leaders who draw $408,136 per month in Illinois teachers’ retirement pension, or $4.9 million per year all paid by the taxpayer. They use their salaries from their union gig to raise their pensions amounts. Who do you think wrote those loopholes into law? So they make themselves rich and then decide to give millions to the legislators who gave it to them? If you dare to demand change or vote against it they use PAC money (taxpayer money) to beat you. This has to stop
Comment by votecounter Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 2:11 pm
You can’t go back retroactiviely and strip the abusers of their booty, but you CAN take action to prevent this abuse, double and triple dipping on Illinois pensions, and end of career “spiking” for any future retirees.
Comment by Arizona Bob Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 2:17 pm
Illinois Democrats are disgusting. Change the law.
Comment by Jeff Trigg Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 2:36 pm
Well, I guess Rauner neglected to ask Poshard, “Is there anything in your personal or professional life that would cause controversy for you or the governor…”
Comment by Cheswick Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 2:39 pm
there are thousands of pensions like that in Illinois. that’s what the Illinois Supreme Court is committed to preserving, at least until the pension systems go bankrupt.
Comment by jim Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 3:00 pm
From the article: “Poshard’s state pension payout — initially about $140,000 a year — has grown by $50,000 a year thanks to Illinois’ automatic 3 percent-a-year cost-of-living adjustment, or COLA.”
That can’t be right. $50k has to be the sum of all aai’s, not $50k more ea. year on $140k…
Comment by Shark Sandwich Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 3:24 pm
This is classic BGA.
He hasn’t done anything illegal, but they don’t like it, so they’re going to embarrass him while intimating this practice is widespread among public employees.
If they truly wanted to improve government, they would advocate for change on stuff like this in Springfield, but that’s not going to happen because they’d run out of things on which to write their articles.
Comment by PJ Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 3:51 pm
As a 22-year retire under SURS and TRS (not in the same class as Glenn P.), I would suggest that since we can’t take it back — let’s tax it. I would be glad to pay an Illinois income tax on my retirement income so long as every other retiree does the same. I would prefer that tax to be graduated.
Comment by JohnTwig Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 3:58 pm
Jim
Thousands? Really? Sorry but if you are going to say it, back it up! Hard to believe when the average is around $24,00 per year. Clearly it’s unfair but thousands? Really?
Comment by Old and In The Way Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 4:13 pm
While the State hasn’t plugged all of the “loopholes”, a number of them have been plugged.
That targeted loophole that allowed some legislators to claim TRS credit for just a couple of days of teaching got slammed shut a few years ago.
The end of career teacher pension “spiking” can still happen, but now the local districts have to pick up the cost over a certain percentage of raise.
The military service buyback has had different rules over the years; most of the time it has been limited to a maximum of 2 years credit and you had to pay the assumed rate of return “interest” in order to purchase, so it was generally cost-prohibitive unless you did it immediately upon returning to State service. However, there was at least one period when the “interest” payback was capped at only a few years when they were trying to get some “extra” money into the pension funds from those vets. A good friend had just finished buying back their military service at the “full” cost when the State offered the discounted deal; they were not happy.
There are still some treatments that are more favorable, but those are mostly in GARS or for persons who have participated in multiple systems (as Poshard did). That’s where the opportunities for abuse still somewhat exist.
The average employee who retires under just one of the systems doesn’t have much opportunity to manipulate things. This is especially true for the SERS participants (actual State employees). About the only opportunity SERS members had was the one-time 2002 ERI deal that was designed to reduce GRF personnel expenses without considering the impact on the pension funds. That opportunity to buy 5 years of service was overly generous and has not been repeated.
Bottom line is that the system could be further improved to eliminate gaming the systems, but there are a fewer loopholes today than in the recent past.
Comment by RNUG Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 4:24 pm
Shark, it’s 50k more per year if I’m reading it correctly. I can’t exactly make that math work, though.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 4:27 pm
Nice job, RNUG. One other issue where disparate treatment still exists, IMHO, is in the systems’ “return to work” rules. TRS and SERS retirees are severely limited in their ability to return to work in jobs covered by their pension system-SURS, not as much, as the Poshard matter illustrates. Pretty sweet to be able to freeze the pension in exchange for a full-time gig plus a bonus “annuity.” He’s also likely on the “money purchase” benefit formula that pays out a lot more dough than the percentage benefit formula most teachers and State workers get.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 4:39 pm
There’s another one that’s just as bad as this but nobody seems to want to mention it…
Comment by Mouthy Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 4:48 pm
Too bad everyone wants to go crazy over pension payments while Wall Street 1%-ers and vulture–ooops–venture capitalists are raking millions gaming their systems. It’s so much more fun to attack public workers and their pension systems, hoping, apparently, that they’ll approach poverty levels while the above mentioned skate to glory on their manipulations. Why is that? If we want to have money available in this state, wouldn’t it make sense to get it from those who have tons of it, rather than the grandmas living on 24K?
Comment by Anonymous Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 4:51 pm
Gotta love how one of the Obama insiders said how they rely on voter stupidity. Telling the truth is always in vogue.
Now as to Illinois it was so much fun watching the people fawning over Poshard while the few that are not disillusioned stand back and watch
NIce to know the intelligence of the usual Capitol Fax posters
By the way Richei boi I hear you had some site problems lately. Time for you to call out your so called hounds to investigate?
LOL…Illinois welfare trash all
Comment by Told ya so Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 5:11 pm
Using the BGA’s own pension database and their search tool for FY14 data, there are a total of 63,475 SERS retirees. There are 612 SERS retirees (~0.01%) with more than $100K pensions. None of them are receiving $200K.
There are 1,076 JRS/GARS retirees. There are 644 JRS/GARS retirees (~60%) with more than $100K pensions. Only one retiree (
Comment by RNUG Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 5:13 pm
-AA-, actually, SERS retirees have different “return to work” rules depending on when they retired. Those who took the 2002 ERI are very severely limited, and pretty much have close to zero opportunity to increase their pensions. The 2004 “Early Out” was also limiting. SERS retirees outside those two periods have more freedom but, as you note, nothing like GARS & SURS.
Comment by RNUG Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 5:28 pm
Good point, RNUG. Thanks for reminding me.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 5:34 pm
Way to go Glenn!!! Your just following the pension rules.
Comment by Downstate Greg Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 6:02 pm
I don’t think most of those criticizing Poshard’s pension are saying the average State pension is too much. They’re just saying his is.
Why not limit State pensions to up to $100,000. With no contribution by employees on income above that level.
May not be constitutional or politically doable but would stop these examples being trotted out every month or so.
Comment by Sir Reel Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 6:06 pm
It’s immoral greedy and one main reason the state is broke. Great transition guy
Comment by Nathan R. Jessup Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 7:14 pm
- Sir Reel -, based on a couple of the pension cases I’ve read, I’m sure a cap of that type for existing employees would be considered a diminishment. You could legally put it in place for new hires.
That’s pretty much all you can do, slam the barn door on potential future “abusers”.
Comment by RNUG Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 7:24 pm
All you naysayers,so how much of the pensions that Poshard earned should he be accepting? Just like how many deductions or other adjustments (dividends, capital gains, etc) should the wealth person use and still be “moral”? How many dependents can a large family claim and still not be “corrupt”? I call BS.
Comment by steve schnorf Wednesday, Nov 19, 14 @ 7:56 pm
Glenn Poshard was a do-nothing Senator and Congressman and a marginal SIU President who should have been fired for plagiarizing his doctoral Thesis. What a sleeze bag. And we are paying for his riches. Can’t believe Rauner chose him of all people. And I voted for him for Governor!
Comment by Sick of It All Thursday, Nov 20, 14 @ 1:37 am
As RNUG as clearly stated: this sort of manipulation is *not* allowed by normal state employees/retirees. Rather, they are currently fighting to keep what they already have let alone trying to boost it. As Larry Niven said in “RINGWORLD”: TANJ (There Ain’t No Justice).
Comment by Late to the Party Thursday, Nov 20, 14 @ 8:05 am