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* Hyperpartisan Democrats have been occasionally suggesting in comments that Gov. Rauner be recalled by voters. We’ve had even more today, so I feel I need to “front page” this topic.
Like all hyperpartisans, these recall enthusiasts are clueless.
* From the Illinois Constitution, with emphasis added…
The recall of the Governor may be proposed by a petition signed by a number of electors equal in number to at least 15% of the total votes cast for Governor in the preceding gubernatorial election, with at least 100 signatures from each of at least 25 separate counties.
15 percent of 3,627,690 total votes cast last year would be 544,154 signatures. That’s a whole lot, not to mention the 25 county requirement.
* But before you can even pass a petition you’ll need an affidavit…
A petition shall have been signed by the petitioning electors not more than 150 days after an affidavit has been filed with the State Board of Elections providing notice of intent to circulate a petition to recall the Governor. The affidavit may be filed no sooner than 6 months after the beginning of the Governor’s term of office. The affidavit shall have been signed by the proponent of the recall petition, at least 20 members of the House of Representatives, and at least 10 members of the Senate, with no more than half of the signatures of members of each chamber from the same established political party.
Can anybody out there name 10 House Republicans and 5 Senate Republicans who would sign such an affidavit?
Ain’t. Gonna. Happen.
* Don’t clog up our comment section here with your goofy recall rants. You’ll be banned for life and forced to flee to a newspaper website, where nobody cares.
That is all.
/rant
posted by Rich Miller
Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:30 pm
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Bravo!
Comment by Under Further Review Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:37 pm
Great. You left the door open for impeachment…
Comment by ryan Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:38 pm
Amen
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:39 pm
I have two words for those who think Rauner should be recalled or impeached:
Evelyn Sanguinetti.
My personal hope is that neither Madigan nor Cullerton get so tough on him that he decides to quit mid-term.
Comment by 47th Ward Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:40 pm
LOL, ryan!
Actually “impeach” is a banned word here. I had to manually approve your comment (and 47th’s above). So, no door was left open.
“Recall” isn’t an easy word to ban because it’s so often used in other contexts. Too much work freeing up too many comments from the holding pen.
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:40 pm
The amendment relating to recall of the governor was written in such a way that Illinois can say we have a procedure to recall the governor. That’s the theory. The practice is the way it was written is that it will never happen. If that many members of the GA would sign the affidavit that governor is probably going to get impeached before the voters get a shot at recall.
Comment by West Side the Best Side Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:42 pm
Agree Rich, I’ve told people before who have brought this up that things are going to have to get a whole lot worse than they are now before you can get the required number of GOP signatures to get a recall. These Democrats need to take a deep breath.
Comment by The Dude Abides Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:43 pm
what are the banned words - is there a link?
Comment by zonz Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:44 pm
Also irrational, as the Dems should be just thrilled that the evil mogul Rauner’s there. Did they want to take all the blame for a resolution of the state’s budget mess. Cuts and tax increases-no matter what percentage of which, that’s going to generate some, er, resentment on the part of voters. Nice to have an evil mogul there to take at least some of the blame for the pain.
Comment by Cassandra Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:45 pm
lol, Slip and Sue, the insurance policy.
My fear is that Gov. Rauner will be a prolific fundraising bundler for the GOP Nominee that if the Republican does win, a Cabinet spot is offered, or even sweeter for a retired multi-millionaire, be offered an Ambassadorship (*cough* paid vacation) to some incredible country with no worry of actual work (Switzerland for one).
Then, like the hedge funder he is, Rsuber cuts his loses, gets a new title, and we get…
Oh, man…
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:47 pm
Sorry about using a banned word. Wasn’t applying it to any particular person, just in general. Didn’t mean to be a nope.
Comment by West Side the Best Side Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:47 pm
@47th - Agreed. BVR quitting to step up to a federal post (or campaign??!!) would not be cool.
Comment by ryan Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:47 pm
(like button)
Comment by Just Me Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:49 pm
===(Switzerland for one)===
So he can spend more time with his money?
Comment by 47th Ward Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:49 pm
@Willy - That’s my fear. It’s a graceful exit, so it’s not like he’s “quitting”.
Comment by ryan Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:50 pm
===what are the banned words===
Use common sense and decency and you won’t ever have to wonder about such a thing.
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:50 pm
The banned word is the reason for Sue. Her purpose is to be a worse option than Rauner. Thought we all knew that lol
Comment by me too Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:50 pm
- 47th Ward -, I set ‘em up, you knock them down.
That’s… how we play the game. lol
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:51 pm
- ryan -, the governor “have another calling”, you know, to serve his country.
I just got misty-eyed.
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:54 pm
==with no more than half of the signatures of members of each chamber from the same established political party==
So if the GOP membership sinks much lower in either chamber, the chances of recall will fall from “winning the lottery 5 times in a row” range to “zero.”
Comment by Anon. Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:54 pm
===what are the banned words===
“Use common sense and decency and you won’t ever have to wonder about such a thing. ”
Please consider banning “job creators” and “reform”.
They’re abused to the point of indecency.
Comment by Qui Tam Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:55 pm
Since we are now in permanent campaign mode, if you want a change you should recruit an opposing Gov candidate and start the campaign now. I’m thinking Doc Walls but if you favor another candidate, get them to commit and start campaigning. How much does it cost to issue a press release every day? Seriously.
Comment by not so simple Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:56 pm
The over/under on any, I do mean any, GOP member signing on to such an affidavit is “half”, meaning the “under” is zero.
Here’s a hint, take the “under”
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:57 pm
what a waste of time even thinking about recall…. time spent on this would be better used finding a way to compromise. This has hit the official crazy zone.
Comment by illinifan Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:58 pm
===what are the banned words===
Semprini
Comment by Kippax Blue Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:59 pm
The bigger concern to me would be if there were one and he survived … he’d truly be a Scott Walker clone. Like OW always says, don’t ask for a vote unless you’re certain of the outcome.
Comment by Skeptic Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:02 pm
You’re f@$!in tellin me we can’t talk about imp@!$hin or rec!%lin this guy? No fun.
Comment by Anonymous Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:11 pm
So you’re saying there’s a chance?
Comment by Snucka Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:17 pm
Say [banned word] and you’re gonna have a f%!@#in problem.
Comment by Politix Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:17 pm
Pretty harsh stance, Rich.
I’ll go back to my online newspapers. Do not need to be bashed for speaking my mind.
Thought you were cool for awhile. I guess I am worng.
Ban me, could care less at this point.
Comment by Call me Naive Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:17 pm
Rich,
Seriously….what if we find out that Bruce tried to sell a Senate seat or something else dastardly. I’m assuming the “R” word is an appropriate remedy.
I’m NOT being flippant here.
Comment by Jack Stephens Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:19 pm
===Ban me, could care less at this point.===
Don’t let the door hit you…
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:20 pm
- Jack Stephens -,
With respect.
Did Rauner? Did he?
Has Rauner even remotely put into play 5 GOP state Senators AND… 10 GOP state Representatives?
Even 1?
That seems to be the point.
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:21 pm
To All The Stuff I’ve Posted Before - Nelson, enhanced by VanillaMan
To all the stuff I’ve posted before
Half of it, a painful bore
I’m glad its off my chest
Oft told, to give it a rest
To all the stuff I’ve posted before
To all the crap I once believed
I’ll just confess, I’d been deceived
I thought I knew the truth
But it was just my youth
To all the crap I once believed
The winds of change in this windy state
Sometimes blows hot and full of hate
You’d think that Chicago was used to it
So I found it odd, when I was told to quit
To all the songs that I enhance
Each Friday when I get a chance
No matter how clever they are
Some say I go too far
But CapFax folks like to dance!
To Rich Miller who cares for us
When we fight, and when we fuss
He’ll always be in our hearts
Even when we tears us apart
We’ve felt his spankings when we’re not smart!
Comment by VanillaMan Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:23 pm
“You’ll be banned for life and forced to flee to a newspaper website, where nobody cares.”
And now I can cross “snort iced-coffee up into my sinuses” off of my bucket list…
– MrJM
Comment by MrJM Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:23 pm
Obi-wan Madigan, you are our one and only hope.
Comment by A Jack Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:24 pm
Can’t an enterprising legislator change this cumbersome law, so that we can “R-word” Rauner?
Comment by simplequestion Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:28 pm
===legislator change this cumbersome law===
It’s the constitution, not simply a law.
Quit your whining.
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:28 pm
Recall Mike Madigan?
Comment by Kankakee Jimmy Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:29 pm
===Recall Mike Madigan?===
No! I dont have the distributing rights for mugs and t-shirts yet…
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:32 pm
== Ban me, could care less at this point. ==
- Call me Naive -
If you come here to comment, Rich expects you to:
(a) have done a bit of reading / research so
(b) you know what you are talking about so
(c) you can present a logical position.
That’s just being an informed citizen.
Comment by RNUG Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:33 pm
-don’t let the door hit you-
I’m betting he is in a cubicle that doesn’t have a door…
Comment by A modest proposal Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:33 pm
===I’m betting ===
You’re probably right.
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:34 pm
Thank you, Rich. I despise most everything the Governor stands for and has done since he was elected - but he was elected. It is worth noting that some people in Wisconsin who opposed Scott Walker still refused to vote re-call.
Comment by uptown progressive Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:34 pm
Post in this thread and you are 4.7% more likely to be banned.
Comment by Politix Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:36 pm
=Don’t let the door hit you…=
Pretty sure I had that exact comment (justifiably) removed on 1/12/2015. Lesson learned: Context matters…
Comment by Careful what you wish for... Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:36 pm
Not to hijack the thread, but the idea of a recall has never sat well with me. We get the leaders we deserve. We get the opportunity to recall a governor every four years. In the event of true malfeasance, there is already a process in place to deal with it. One that is arguably much more likely to succeed.
Comment by ryan Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:46 pm
Wasn’t recall the best thing that ever happened to Scott Walker? Would Rauner get the same push?
Comment by newbie Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:46 pm
One wonders how many commenters have been banned here over the years. Might make a nice parlor bet.
Comment by Jake From Elwood Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:48 pm
I’d be curious to see the list of banned words, too.
Comment by Liandro Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:49 pm
Hmm…a recall amendment for the recall amendment that would include both gov and lite gov. the possibilities are endless…
Comment by DPGumby Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:51 pm
@Rich Miller
What makes you think you have the right to censor comments?
You are acting like a spoiled child.
Honest disagreement is an adult skill you need to practice.
Comment by Don't censor me, bro! Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:55 pm
I had this dream (nightmare?) the other night that Donald Trump announced he selected Rauner as his running mate. And then Rauner suddenly had the same hair as Trump.
Comment by HangingOn Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:55 pm
===What makes you think you have the right to censor comments?===
Because I own this blog.
Lock, stock and barrel.
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:01 pm
===Honest disagreement is an adult skill===
Actually, it’s “informed disagreement.” A trait you most assuredly lack.
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:03 pm
Governor Sanguinetti….oh hell no.
Comment by Amalia Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:05 pm
“Don’t censor me, bro!” And no, he’s not violating the First Amendment, so don’t even go there.
Comment by Skeptic Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:10 pm
How dare you Rich Miller censore comments on your own personal intellectual property!!! Don’t you know this is ‘Merica!! We all have the right to say stupid stuff! /S
Comment by Mason born Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:10 pm
Rauner must be really irritating some people.
Why do I think he’s only just begun to aggravate people?
Even though I don’t always agree with your politics, Rich, your analysis is usually pretty spot on.
Thanks for that. It’s what keeps me coming back.
John
Comment by John Boch Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:17 pm
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Comment by Arthur Andersen Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:19 pm
Rich Miller is a bootlicking censor…wipe the lickspittle from your drooling lips?
Comment by Don't censor me, bro! Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:21 pm
Thank you for laying out the specifics. I wasn’t sure what was required for such a legal/legislative action.
Comment by ah HA Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:25 pm
==I’d be curious to see the list of banned words==
I know at least 7. George Carlin told me about them.
Comment by Demoralized Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:26 pm
===a bootlicking censor===
The “adult” in the room, ladies and gentlemen.
lol
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:26 pm
==That is all.==
Rich’s own last line should have sufficed for all commenters.
Comment by walker Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:27 pm
Rich Miller doesn’t ban people.
People ban themselves… by their own words.
If you don’t understand that simplicity, I can’t help you.
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:27 pm
AA comes up with another good idea!
Comment by Norseman Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:30 pm
For awhile I thought Sanddack was a banned word due to the number of deleted posts I’ve experienced, but no.
Comment by Politix Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:32 pm
===Please consider banning “job creators” and “reform”.
They’re abused to the point of indecency.===
You could add “phoney” to that list as well.
Comment by The Unknown Poster Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:36 pm
- Don’t censor me, bro! - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:21 pm:
Rich Miller is a bootlicking censor…wipe the lickspittle from your drooling lips?
This, here is why I can’t stand that the national political attitudes have invaded Illinois.
An Illinois Rep. was never quite like a national Rep. Conversely, an Illinois Dem. was never quite like a national Dem. MJM is more fiscally conservative than most national R’s. George Ryan got rid of the death penalty.
This tea-party nonsense is destroying Illinois politics. Compromise and horse-trading was an art form in this state forever. Blago broke the rules and he’s gone. Quinn never understood it and he’s gone. I hope Rauner learns real soon how it works, cause he is tearing at the very fabric of what Illinois politics always were.
Hey, I have an idea, let’s be Indiana everybody. No thank you. If I wanted to be irrelevant, I’d move to Indiana. STOP IT PEOPLE!!!
Comment by Try-4-Truth Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:37 pm
“I’m betting he is in a cubicle that doesn’t have a door…” although he might have some yellow tape on the floor to indicate where the door will be once they get around to building his office, right?
Comment by Skeptic Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:38 pm
I’d put “turnaround agenda” up there with “recall” in the land of pipe dreams for the partisanly concussed.
Seriously, five minutes of reading about either should be enough to move on and get real.
Comment by Wordslinger Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:39 pm
You mean our MoveOn.org petition won’t be enough to recall the governor? But we have so many signatures! Some are even from Illinois!!! /snark (I may be a liberal but even I know that a recall is not a viable idea.)
Comment by Lakefront Liberal Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:40 pm
===Post in this thread and you are 4.7% more likely to be banned. ===
lol
That’s not too far off the mark. This post has smoked some serious tinfoil hatters outta the woodwork.
They gone.
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:45 pm
My wife wants to know the rules for recalling me.
Comment by illinoised Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:48 pm
I could see it simmering.
Comment by Politix Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:53 pm
=That’s not too far off the mark. This post has smoked some serious tinfoil hatters outta the woodwork.They gone.=
That’s kind of u Rich now they can work on that affidavit that the rest of us are too dumb to realize is possible.
Btw. Thanks for the hard work to make such a great product.
Comment by Mason born Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 4:00 pm