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* Speaker Madigan held a press conference yesterday and talked about a meeting he’d had with the governor earlier in the day…

“I had a frank discussion with the governor,” Madigan said. “And I gave him what I consider to be good solid advice.”

He later added with a hint of a smile: “I felt good when I walked out of that meeting.”

Any guesses about what that advice was?

posted by Rich Miller
Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 9:54 am

Comments

I assumed that banned words cannot be used here even if those words were the words of advice given?

Comment by Concerned Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 9:55 am
Take a look at the last guy that went to war with me.

Comment by Anonymous Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 9:56 am
Perhaps the advice was to go sit on a dinghy in the middle of Lake Springfield and “wait” for someone to show up.

Comment by Team Sleep Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 9:57 am
“Memories are long in Springfield. Goodwill is easy to spend, but nearly impossible to regain. Choose your battles wisely.”

Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 9:57 am
An apple for lunch keeps one healthy.

Comment by Repeal the Cutback Amendment Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 9:58 am
Change happens in moderation.

Comment by Casual Observer Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 9:58 am
“Plastics.”

Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 9:58 am
“Declare victory and move on.”

Comment by Wordslinger Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 9:59 am
Madigan - “Effective leadership is not about balancing a budget or worrying about HUGE deficits. Effective leadership is not about trying to preserve private sector jobs and businesses. It’s certainly not about fretting over bond ratings or being dead last among states for financial responsibility.

Effective leadership is simply about staying in power. Governor, I am an effective leader!”

Comment by Downstate Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:01 am
“Being in charge for thirty years is what I call ‘moderation’”

Comment by O.W.L. Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:01 am
“Be sure not to sit at that back table next time you go to Saputo’s.”

Comment by Leatherneck Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:01 am
Buy low, sell high

Comment by Ethos Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:02 am
I suspect it ended with, “…and the horse you rode in on.”

Comment by Bored Chairman Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:02 am
“Use a sharp knife, but don’t cut yourself.”

Comment by Bogey Golfer Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:02 am
Tell Sandack Mapes knows he has tried to sneak popcorn onto the floor and it ends now.

Comment by Give Me A Break Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:03 am
Talk is cheap.

Comment by Sir Reel Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:03 am
“You catch more fish when you say the rosary.”

Comment by Bored Chairman Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:03 am
You can’t govern through the press.

Comment by Stones Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:05 am
Here is some rope, use it wisely.

Comment by Just Saying .... Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:06 am
“My final offer is this: nothing. Not even the salaries of your frat-boy staff which I would appreciate if you would put up personally.”

Comment by Anonymous Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:06 am
I have a strong suspicion his advice can’t be repeated on capitolfax.

Comment by Ferris Wheel Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:06 am
When you see a fork in the road take it.

Comment by Casual Observer Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:07 am
It doesn’t have to be a Zero sum game Governor but it has to be done in moderation….always.

Comment by Slippin' Jimmy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:07 am
Speaker: “Governor, do you know how the legislative process works according to our state constitution ?”

Rauner: “Yes, I know how it works. You don’t need to explain it to me.”

Speaker: “Okay good. Now I’m going to explain it to you so you understand . . .”

Comment by siriusly Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:07 am
“I’f you continue on this path, I’m gonna (bleep) you”

Comment by Anonymous Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:08 am
“Never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body.”

Comment by Anonymous Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:08 am
Here’s a copy of the IL Constitution. You’d better read it for yourself, because your superstars appear to be giving you a bum steer.

Comment by dzipio Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:09 am
Just Saying wins!

Comment by PublicServant Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:09 am
(banned word) and die.

Comment by The Unknown Poster Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:09 am
“Pigs grow fat - hogs get slaughtered.”

Comment by Draco Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:10 am
“Get a clue!”

Comment by AnonymousOne Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:12 am
I imagine he advised that it’s never a good idea to leave your members out to dry. That in governing, things sometimes take a while, so be patient. And related, governing is not about the idea of the day — you have to pick a path/issue and persevere.

Or he just stared at Rauner for 30 minutes without saying a word.

Comment by the Other Anonymous Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:13 am
“You bought the office, but power is priceless and must be earned.”

Comment by VanillaMan Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:14 am
What an arrogant man……I think he has met his match and doesn’t like the tables turned.

Comment by Anonymous Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:14 am
Don’t lie, you’ll get called on it.

Comment by Casual Observer Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:16 am
“Despite all your efforts, heed Oswego Willy’s admonition that governor’s own the budget blame.”

Comment by Norseman Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:16 am
“You may think you know what you’re dealing with. But believe me, you don’t.”

Comment by Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:17 am
“If you don’t drop your radical positions, you might become as unpopular as me.”

Comment by Grandson of Man Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:17 am
I really hope Rauner holds firm, because Madigan is an unmitigated disaster, despite the praise and reverence bestowed upon him.

Comment by William Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:17 am
Own your decisions, know that most issues are complex and nuanced, that everything should be done in moderation, and more than anything know that you’re as good as your word

Comment by AC Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:18 am
Bored Chairman beat me to it; liked Just Saying ’s post. How about “The last two governors tried some of the same stuff you are- look what happened to them… and they were Democrats!!!”

Comment by downstate commissioner Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:18 am
“Stop twittering away your administration.”

Comment by VanillaMan Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:18 am
I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard in not what I meant.

Comment by WeeblesWobble Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:19 am
“Trust and your word, Governor. Don’t have other not trust you, and never go back on your word… starting now.”

Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:19 am
“Together, lets announce that you are retiring to your Montana ranch this week.”

Comment by VanillaMan Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:20 am
My state pension is bigger

Comment by s.o. Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:20 am
Oh, “William” you mistakenly turned the names around….

Comment by downstate commissioner Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:20 am
“And on your death bed, you will receive total consciousness.”

Comment by Concerned Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:21 am
Here is my offer: Nothing.

Comment by Kippax Blue Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:21 am
Never fry bacon without a shirt on.

Comment by CharlieKratos Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:21 am
Governor, i encourage you to personally engage legislative leadership, to seek accommodation on the problems before us. you have passed up many opportunities to do so, but it is not too late.

The budget requires 36 votes and 71 votes. You have members you can persuade, as do i. Republicans have voted no on tough votes for years. That is about to change. Please focus on the budget, and avoid unnecessary suffering.

As a first step, it would help if you would instruct your agency directors to respond in a positive way to our inquiries. That is part of our responsibility for legislative oversight. Tweets, name calling, and blatant disrespect of members and the process doesnt help. I have worked well with republican governors.

It is up to you. In the meantime, we will continue our work. Now, please throw away my apple core.

Comment by Langhorne Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:22 am
“I’ve been in talks with prosecutors in Florida and it appears they have a few important questions for you.”

Comment by VanillaMan Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:23 am
He later added with a hint of a smile: “I felt good when I walked out of that meeting.”
Bruce must have said “I give up, my resignation is in the mail.”

Comment by downstate commissioner Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:23 am
“Could you please speak louder? I don’t believe my wire can pick up what you are whispering.”

Comment by VanillaMan Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:25 am
There are three branches of government in Illinois, the Executive, Legislative and Judicial…….and when you use the word negotiate people assume you have engaged another party in the discussion.

Comment by burbanite Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:25 am
“You are a blockhead”

Comment by the old man Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:25 am
Continue on your current path, and you’ll be as loved by all the people in Illinois as I am

Comment by AC Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:27 am
Oops– sorry for stepping on Anon @ 10:06

Comment by Kippax Blue Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:28 am
My guess is it was about sand, how it could be pounded, and where it could be pounded.

Comment by Tourés Latte Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:28 am
Buy stock in the medmar industry.

Comment by Casual Observer Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:28 am
“You can be a success, or you can be a failure. It’s all in your hands, Governor.”

Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:28 am
Don’t run with scissors

Comment by Retired Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:29 am
“I am a very patient man, but our state isn’t.”

Comment by VanillaMan Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:29 am
“I got ‘all day’, Governor, ‘all day’. Do you?”

Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:30 am
Don’t forget, I am the man behind the curtain.

Comment by FormerParatrooper Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:31 am
“Govern as Bruce Rauner, not as Scott Walker or Chris Christie.”

Comment by A Jack Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:32 am
For the love of God won’t someone think of the children and give teachers more time off, money, and better pension benefits.

Comment by McPhee Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:33 am
Anyone have a link to Madigan’s full press conference yesterday? Thanks!

Comment by Bystander Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:34 am
Madigan sang his favorite song by the Rolling Stones:

Time is on my side, yes it is.
Time is on my side, yes it is.
Now you all were saying that you want to be free
But you’ll come runnin’ back (I said you would baby),
You’ll come runnin’ back (like I told you so many times before),
You’ll come runnin’ back to me.

Comment by AC Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:34 am
==I had a frank discussion with the governor==
Obviously a talk about concessions at the possibly-upcoming State Fair.

“Get your offer on the table. My daughter will run against you, and she will win. The clock is ticking.”

Comment by Vote Quimby! Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:37 am
“You don’t want to look back at your four years and say ‘I coulda been great, I coulda been a contender’”

Comment by A Jack Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:38 am
Remember Bozo’s Grand Prize Game? Keep your toes behind the line.

Comment by zatoichi Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:38 am
@AC

Then, the encore:

I saw her today at the reception
A glass of wine in her hand
I knew she would meet her connection
At her feet was a footloose man
No, you can’t always get what you want
You can’t always get what you want
You can’t always get what you want
But if you try sometime you find
You get what you need

Comment by Bill White Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:38 am
Mr Governor, in an Illinois political battle, the one who cares the least about the best interests of the people of Illinois wins. Mr Governor, I AM that man….

Comment by Arizona Bob Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:40 am
“Perhaps you will enjoy this coloring book about how to be a governor.”

Comment by VanillaMan Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:40 am
I’ll be here four years from now. As Speaker.
You barely beat a wildly unpopular Governor who received tepid support from me.
It doesn’t have to be that way in ‘18.

Comment by efudd Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:40 am
Never wrestle with a pig In mud. Sooner or later your both filthy and you realize the pig enjoys it.

Oink oink gov.

Comment by Mason born Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:42 am
(in his best Marlon Brando) “Act like a Man!”

Comment by Jocko Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:43 am
“Save One Bullet For Yourself”

Comment by x ace Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:43 am
“Don’t even think about going to Trump’s hair stylist.”

Comment by Streator Curmudgeon Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:44 am
“Figure out what you think you must have in priority order, and when you are most likely to get each one. Know that you cannot have them all right now, and that you can never get the ideal version of any one of them.”

Comment by walker Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:45 am
“In a pinch I can be tougher than you are, and I guess maybe this is the pinch.”

Comment by Lord Chatham Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:45 am
“May I recommend some light reading. How about Kiplings the young British soldier.”

Comment by Mason born Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:46 am
I wish I could convey the heart stabbing feeling I get when my wife says quietly and with great disappointment in her voice “Oh, William”

Comment by Huh? Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:46 am
I can’t retire yet, Blago owes me money.

Comment by s.o. Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:48 am
“Leave the gun, take the cannoli”

Comment by Mouse Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:50 am
You shouldn’t fear me, your party and its members should fear me. Now, if you don’t cut it out I will banish the Republican Party back to irrelevance for another 10 years. You can leave.

Comment by Sos Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:51 am
Sit down and shut up!

Comment by Union Man Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:52 am
This current impasse will soon be over Gov. One of us will emerge victorious, the other will be a shattered, husk of a man. I’ll give you one guess who the winner will be. And I’ll even give you a hint.

(Hint) It’s not going to be you.

Comment by How Ironic Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:55 am
“You used the first envelope, might be time to open the second envelope…”

Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:55 am
“Now go get your shinebox!”

Comment by 32nd Ward Roscoe Village Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 10:57 am
“Just ’cause I have one House and you have nine doesn’t mean you outnumber me.”

Comment by Streator Curmudgeon Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:01 am
Vinyl forever! (”Sound” advice, get it?)

Comment by Earnest Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:01 am
I’m telling Lisa on you

Comment by s.o. Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:02 am
Arithmetic, and Moderation.

Comment by Juvenal Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:02 am
Madigan doing Clint Eastwood:

“A man’s got to know his limitations.”

Comment by Streator Curmudgeon Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:04 am
Rich

I heard a story this a.m. on STL radio that IL is transferring some SSI claims to MO due to lack of staff.

Comment by Mason born Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:11 am
Slight variation on -OW’s- comment:

Governor, it’s time to prepare three envelopes …

Comment by RNUG Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:11 am
“Governor, I’m like a $14 watch. I take a licking and keep on ticking.”

Comment by Streator Curmudgeon Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:12 am
I’m rubber your glue…

Comment by Anonymous Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:16 am
“Governor, I’m going in to take a nap. When I wake, if the money’s on the table, I’ll know I have a partner. If it isn’t, I’ll know I don’t. “

Comment by Wensicia Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:18 am
I have paid close attention to how your party has cooperated with our former Senator and now President in Washington. You can expect exactly the same level of support and assistance with your agenda.

Comment by Nickname #2 Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:18 am
Bruce, I’m going to need your help on 5 votes, just 5, but if I dont get it, were going to have a big bleeping problem.

Comment by relocated Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:20 am
Gov. you have a friend named Edgar call him, listen to him, and before you hold another press conference consider his advice. Cause if this is winning to you you really aren’t going to like it when you lose.

Comment by Mason born Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:23 am
“Governor, It’s good to be the King.
It’s even better to be the King-maker.
You’re the King, but guess who is the King-maker?”

Comment by Pete Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:27 am
Don’t **** on my leg and tell me its raining?

Comment by Ghost Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:50 am
This above all: to thine ownself be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man. 80
Farewell: my blessing season this in thee!

Comment by Anon. Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:53 am
The same advice MJM got from Mr. Myagi in his first term as Speaker - “Wax on, wax off. Don’t forget to breathe, very important!”

Comment by LTL Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 11:58 am
Don’t point your finger at me.

Comment by dupage dan Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 12:00 pm
He sang to the Gov, “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”

Comment by Challengerrt Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 12:12 pm
Don’t read Eric Zorn’s column.

Comment by Keyser Soze Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 12:23 pm
Mr. Rauner, to use a popular metaphor, it’s fourth down, you’re on the one foot line…and you’re telling me you admire Pete Carroll?

Comment by Commonsense in Illinois Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 12:40 pm
“Never wear a prep school tie with a Carhartt jacket.”

Comment by Streator Curmudgeon Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 12:43 pm
“It’s better to be in charge than to be tall.”

Comment by Streator Curmudgeon Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 12:44 pm
Submit, now, while you still can.

Comment by Percival Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 12:54 pm
“Tell Durkin that I saw that picture of him holding his breath that was posted on CapitolFax. Its not going to work.”

Comment by Southside Markie Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 12:59 pm
“It’s always better to be King Arthur rather than the Black Knight”

Comment by Stones Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 1:11 pm
Hey, if you knock off all this reform stuff, I can show you where we keep the good, solid booty we’ve pillaged here.

Comment by A guy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 1:21 pm
“It ain’t over ’til the full-figured female sings!”

Comment by Streator Curmudgeon Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 1:32 pm
“You won’t be able to survive unpopularity like I can.”

“Ashes don’t burn. Be careful you don’t get burned by the burnin’.”

Comment by Grandson of Man Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 1:50 pm
Guy, Rauner had superstar Stu Levine on the payroll at $25K a month to drum up government business by “any means necessary.”

There could be no better advisor. He did just fine at the trough.

Comment by Wordslinger Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 1:55 pm
“Finance is a gun. Politics is knowing when to pull the trigger.”

Comment by Stuff Happens Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 2:11 pm
Yep Sling. he’s had the franchise on all the superstars. MJM has been stuck with journeymen.

Comment by A guy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 2:29 pm
Governor I’m not for sale and I’m teflon clad so enough with the bow shots and let’s deal!

Comment by XDNR Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 2:29 pm
Guy, do you have a point based in fact? Ever?

Comment by Wordslinger Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 2:38 pm
Facts are not guy’s style. Partisan talking points can always be tailored to fit in a quick blog comment

Comment by MurMan Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 2:41 pm
Sling and MurM (you guys should meet if you haven’t),

This entry by the moderator asked for a very specific entry:

To refresh things for you, here it is:

“Any guesses about what that advice was?”

Unless either of you two pixies were there to hear exactly what it was, just about everyone is going to be guessing on the facts on this one.

MurM, is there anything a lot more partisan than the whole “tie Stuart Levine to anyone you can” line.

Sling knows better. It’s been a long week. His game is sufferin’ a bit. Gotta rely on his circle change when his fastball loses it’s zip. But hey, you’re commentary from the cheap seats is commensurate with your seating area.

Comment by A guy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 2:59 pm
A guy:

It weren’t exactly a stretch to connect Rauner to Levine.

I wasn’t there to hear the advice, but I can assure you this: it was wasted breath.

Rauner doesn’t listen to advice.

Comment by Juvenal Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 3:05 pm
Its not over until the fat lady sings!

Comment by Mama Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 3:08 pm
Juvy, that’s such a juvy thing to say. How long you going to provide wind for that sock?

Comment by A guy Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 3:40 pm
When is Goldberg getting back from Starbucks

Comment by Anonymous Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 3:57 pm
A good magician needs practiced skills, technique, and presentation. You’re clearly palming the coin in your left hand. Have some respect for the craft.

Comment by zatoichi Friday, Jul 10, 15 @ 4:01 pm