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Miss Pat Quinn yet? That’s the sign in the window of Greater Palatine Area Democrats as Illinois enters its fifth month without a budget.

posted by Rich Miller
Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 10:57 am

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NO! I personally do not miss him one bit.

Comment by Allen D Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:01 am
“Miss a budget yet?”

Better question for the public.

Comment by walker Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:01 am
Never ask a question to which you do not know the answer.

– MrJM

Comment by @MisterJayEm Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:03 am
As the many, many reservations I had about Candidate Rauner, at no time, at NO time, did I even think another term of Pat Quinn would be a real alternative to actively cast a vote for on Election Day.

Don’t make me quote the singing of Kelly Clarkson again, although for the yeoman work Emily Miller is doing, I’ll just leave it, for her at…

You had your chance, you blew it…

Comment by Oswego Willy Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:03 am
Absolutely! The previous incompetence wasn’t intentional.

Comment by Union Man Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:03 am
Yes. No need to be a PQ fan, no need to even like or respect the man or the job he did, to answer affirmatively.

Comment by chi Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:05 am
I may not miss the man, but I do miss pension payments being made, budgets passed in a reasonable amount of time, non profits being funded, and vendors being paid, among other successes. Yes, things can get worse.

Comment by AC Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:05 am
In a word: yes.

Comment by AlabamaShake Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:08 am
Nope. Loving the tax cut for now.

Comment by Robert the 1st Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:08 am
==Loving the tax cut for now.==

With all the increases costs due to the impasse, taxes will ultimately be higher than they would have been had the tax increase continued. So, “for now” sounds about right.

Comment by AC Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:11 am
If the choice is Yes/No…I’ll pick yes.
We have the ability to see the result of our citizens choice to change and ’shake things up!’ and therefore, the ability to quantify the BR administrations actions as well as their deliberate mis-direction about their ultimate goals and ambitions. Given what we know about how things were with PQ, and how things are now with BR….I advocate for the slow crawl of PQ paying the debts that were (and are still) owed to the pensions, paying down the back-log of unpaid bills, and NOT causing the wide ranging and devastating damage that’s being done by BR.
While PQ may have bumbled his way along the leadership path of Governor, he DID govern. BR has not.
Summary…Be careful what you ask for….you just might get it.

Comment by northernwatersports Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:13 am
Ask the working poor who need childcare. Ask the drug addicted who need treatment. Ask the poor folks who rely upon the social service safety net. I am confident they would answer in the affirmative.

Comment by nona Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:13 am
=With all the increases costs due to the impasse, taxes will ultimately be higher than they would have been had the tax increase continued.=

They sure will. That’s when I, and many others will simply move.

Comment by Robert the 1st Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:14 am
Not at all, we would have a budget, but we would still have the same problems with no end in sight.

Comment by Ahoy! Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:15 am
+1 to AC, and I also liked gay marriage and med-mar getting passed.

Comment by Timmeh Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:19 am
“That’s when I, and many others will simply move.”

Don’t wait! Beat the rush!

– MrJM

Comment by @MisterJayEm Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:22 am
“Miss Pat Quinn yet?”

This mindset disturbs me. Do I miss bad because we have worse? I’m tired of settling for the less incompetent candidate for Governor as my only choice. Illinois deserves better.

Comment by Cubs in '16 Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:27 am
I had to hold my nose to vote for him, but now I’d do it gladly and proudly. The government was not good, but incomparably much better to what we have now.

Comment by UIC Guy Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:28 am
Yes. Although I think they meant ’still’, not ‘yet.’

Comment by Stuff Happens Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:29 am
State vendors who aren’t getting paid miss the Quinnster. I bet the road builders and their employees whose projects stopped July 1 miss him too. Had Quinn been elected, the legislature would’ve extended the income tax hike, instead of acceding to Rauner’s demand.

Comment by nona Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:30 am
Going from the frying pan into the fire doesn’t really make you miss the frying pan all that much. But you surely appreciate the relative coolness of the hot cast iron to the flames you’re in.

Comment by Not quite a majority Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:30 am
“That’s when I, and many others will simply move.”

If they make it retro-active you’ll wish you hadn’t procrastinated.

Comment by Anonymous Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:31 am
Must be some sort of beauty contest. Instead of a crown, the winner gets Squeezy the Pension Python draped around her neck.

Comment by nixit71 Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:32 am
Since Quinn more or less enabled Rauner to the office of governor: NO!

Comment by Wensicia Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:35 am
==With all the increases costs due to the impasse, taxes will ultimately be higher than they would have been had the tax increase continued.==

The over/under is 4.75%. Place your bets now. Just be aware Madigan keeps the vig.

Comment by nixit71 Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:35 am
=If they make it retro-active you’ll wish you hadn’t procrastinated.=

Good point. I’m not procrastinating though, these things take time. Trying to talk my father into selling his house and farmland as well. IL real estate/housing is going to take a huge hit in the coming decade.

Comment by Robert the 1st Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:36 am
== Not at all, we would have a budget, but we would still have the same problems with no end in sight. ==

Perfectly said Ahoy!

Comment by Mattman Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:37 am
Hell to the no.

Comment by Chicago Cynic Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:39 am
Reminds me of when I saw the “W miss me yet” sign. Why drag unpopular former leaders into this discussion? Was Pat Quinn a better governor? Yep. Would I prefer someone be governor other than Pat Quinn? Pretty much.

Comment by Ducky LaMoore Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:42 am
Here’s a Yes AND a No.

I miss Pat Quinn’s decency as a man. I think he is compassionate and cares about people.

I don’t miss his governing.

Comment by Streator Curmudgeon Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:52 am
Seriously?

Comment by Anonymous Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:58 am
We must not forget that the state ran deficit budgets for at least a decade and resorted to year-after-year of magic tricks, borrowing, gimmicks, one-time revenues, and deferrals to pass what we charitably called a “budget.” Programs were being funded, but there’s a shelf life for how long poor fiscal practices can continue. Many people didn’t care because at least the wheel continued to turn. You can’t do that forever. In the end, math wins. Those that support additional revenue from an income tax increase should at least acknowledge that it should have been done early last decade when it became clear that spending was outstripping revenues and the pension payment was increasing. Those with power chose to wait, and then passed a temporary income tax increase with a promise that it would phase-out. They also chose to wait before beginning to cut spending. These were all choices and time is money. Returning to deficit budgets and just trying to hold things together from one year to the next instead of resolving significant structural issues is not something worth returning to. The poor choices made over the last 15-20 years is why the state is in its present predicament. Had the structural revenue issues been resolved last decade, there wouldn’t be a Governor Rauner. Politically and economically, the system was crashing and was ripe for a “correction.” If Quinn were still Governor, we MIGHT have a balanced budget this year based upon an income tax increase extension, but the same dynamic would have continued going forward and spending would likely have continued to outpace revenues (i.e., pension payment) despite the passage of annual budgets. We need a long-term plan for our state, not a “let’s get through this year and the next election” approach. Didn’t work. Won’t work. We deserve better.

Comment by Illannoyed Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 11:58 am
Sort of like asking Sox fans if they miss Ozzie Guillen.

Comment by a drop in Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:00 pm
Bye-bye Robert

Comment by steve schnorf Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:03 pm
You see, it is important that we always reflect on our past, because our past is what we are, and what we are can tell us where we are going, and the place we need to be going is not the place that we are, and in order to get to that we need to focus on the work, and Pat Quinn is working night and day until we get to that place, and that place is where the will of the people is the law of the land, and Pat Quinn knows what the will of the people is, and when he makes his return to public life, if that is he has ever really left it, he’ll be working night and day until the place we are going is the place we need to be.

-Anonymous Capital Fax reader

Comment by Just Me Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:06 pm
===Sort of like asking Sox fans if they miss Ozzie Guillen.===

Ozzie is like that crazy girlfriend that you break up with. Then you start dating the normal, really boring Robin. You really start missing the crazy, even though it is not good for you. And knowing that the crazy girl is still single and in-town just drives you crazy. In reality, we need a girlfriend (Sox Manager) who is neither the crazy or the normal boring girl. We just haven’t met her yet….

Comment by Ducky LaMoore Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:12 pm
“Miss Pat Quinn”?

http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2806945.jpg

– MrJM

Comment by @MisterJayEm Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:23 pm
Rauner is listening to the Sirens song of “Stay the course” and sailing the ship of state right into the rocks.

Comment by Hedley Lamarr Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:24 pm
Rauner is shakin’ and hammerin’ at those lib fossils and their insider earmarks ! When the chattering Springfield political class starts cryin you KNOW you are doing something right ! GO RAUNER !

Comment by DonorClassic Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:26 pm
That old girlfriend says she’ll change when you agree to take her back. Is Ozzie able to cut out the part that was not good? I miss him, and would welcome him back with that promise. He’d break it of course, but you kind of know that when the promise is made.

Comment by Lincoln Lad Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:30 pm
No, I don’t miss him. I appreciated his financial responsibility but not his lack of leadership. Here’s a better question: are any of other than puppy-rights activists sorry we didn’t vote for Bill Brady back in 2010?

Comment by Earnest Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:31 pm
== In A Word: No. ==

Absolutely miss Quinn !

The IL Government actually FUNCTIONED !

He made payments, understood the needs to incr revenues, and other POSITIVE things

Comment by sal-says Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:40 pm
Thinkin’ PQ not really missable, but Stermer and his posse kept the place runnin’
The U-turn train wreck are gettin’ hard to take.

Comment by Anonin' Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:40 pm
At least Madigan talked to PQ.

Comment by Cheryl44 Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:56 pm
Yes absolutely yes.

Rich, disappointed by your “in a word” dismissal. You are one of the last informed advocates for nuanced analysis in the capitol.

I defy Rauner or any of his supporters to explain to the public how things are better today than they were during Quinn’s tenure.

Comment by Handle Bar Mustache Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 12:59 pm
@Illannoyed

Bruce Rauner has not proposed any structural reforms that would balance revenue with expenses.

Comment by Hamlet's Ghost Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:00 pm
If the only options are Quinn and what we have now…I would rather have Quinn. But, there are any number of other Democrats I’d rather have instead of Quinn. So…no, I don’t miss Quinn, but I also don’t want what we have now.

Comment by Scott Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:01 pm
Gov. Quinn cared little about the disabled and those most vulnerable. He put many into situations where they were abused and neglected, under is plan to “rebalance” the Department of Human Services. Do not miss him one bit! Thanking God every day that he is gone.

Comment by Anonymous Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:13 pm
No. I do miss the opportunity to vote for a candidate that believes in upholding the constitution.

Comment by pool boy Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:17 pm
Just because I need to break up with my current girlfriend doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to start dating my most recent ex-girlfriend.

Plenty of fish in the sea.

Comment by Anon Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:27 pm
I supported Rauner. I thought that if Pat Quinn stayed, the Democrats would continue to kick the can down the road. He was the most responsible of the crew down there but I ain’t getting rid of my state legislator. My school says its honoring my MAP grant, but I don’t know how long that will last. I do like that if the Democrats don’t get their act together in 2018-2022, they know we’ll give them the “gift” another Bruce Rauner, we’ll cry uncle together. Do I miss Pat Quinn? Yes. Do I regret voting against him? No. Would I vote for Pat Quinn over BVR in an election today? Yes sir. That being said, I’d give a lot of Democrats in the state legislature the stink eye if they ran against BVR. Bruce might get my vote again, if only to put some piety into the Democrats’ caucus. Lord knows they need it.

Comment by Student from 10th District Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:29 pm
Quinn and the Democrat state central committee caused a Gov Rauner victory. They should have selected another dem candidate to run because Quinn was a disaster. Sounds as if the “Greater Palatine area democrats” still don’t get it.

Comment by Kathryn Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:44 pm
This is like trying to decide which pig farm smells the worst. Are we really to the point where we are longing for the days of prior incompetence to get away from current incompetence?

Comment by Demoralized Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:48 pm
Who’s Miss Pat Quinn?

Comment by Anonymous Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:55 pm
When it is a choice between incompetence and insufferable I will take incompetence thank you. At least squeezy wasn’t sleazy. In contrast, yes, I miss P.Q.

Comment by ottawa otter Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:56 pm
“Miss Pat Quinn”
I thought this was some type of Katrlyn Jenner swipe.

As a Republican- absolutely don’t miss him. RUN PAT RUN.

Comment by Anony Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 1:58 pm
I do not miss Quinn. I am not 100% on board with Rauner, but Madigan shares the blame for the current stalemate.

I have friends, including one who formerly interned with a prominent Democratic Congressman. The man is quite liberal, but he told me that he could not support Quinn in good conscience for another term. He did not support Rauner, but he admitted voting against Quinn simply to put him out of office.

I hoped for better days once Blagojevich was impeached, but Quinn proved to be a huge disappointment in his own right for different reasons.

If Dorothy Brown goes down, will Quinn get muddied up in the process? Maybe, maybe not.

Comment by Under Further Review Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 2:07 pm
Yes. I also miss the shingles and root canal.

Comment by Empty Suit Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 2:33 pm
Do the taxpayer miss a crony capital “kick the can” run up the debt machine politician - Hell No

Quinn was not a bad person but he could never solve the problem.

He should enjoy his taxpayer paid retirement.

Comment by Cannon649 Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 2:52 pm
“I thought this was some type of Katrlyn Jenner swipe. As a Republican…”

No kidding?

– MrJM

Comment by @MisterJayEm Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 3:00 pm
And remember death is not an option….

Comment by ArchPundit Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 3:14 pm
No. Not at all. Thanks for asking.

Comment by Arthur Andersen Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 3:22 pm
Personally I miss Tio Hardiman and Kirk Dillard /s

Comment by Anonymous Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 4:40 pm
1. Just because Rauner is wrong doesn’t mean Pat Quinn was right.

2. Just because Rauner is a problem doesn’t mean Quinn is the solution.

3. If you are looking for someone to blame for Rauner, blame Quinn. L

Comment by Yellow Dog Democrat Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 5:45 pm
Yes. Everyday!

Comment by anon Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 5:48 pm
Yes! In fact I am starting to miss Blago..

Comment by DuPage Grandma Monday, Nov 9, 15 @ 8:44 pm