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* Press release…

Daily Public Schedule: Thursday, January 21, 2016

What: Governor Rauner, Leader Radogno and Leader Durkin Hold a Press Conference Regarding the Illinois Pension System
Where: James R. Thompson Center – 16th Floor
100 W. Randolph, Chicago
Date: Thursday, January 21, 2016
Time: 10:30 a.m.

And I’m sure the unions will love it.

Brace for another busy day around here, campers. I’ll post a live coverage feed later this morning.

posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:11 am

Comments

I imagine that they already have a legal opinion in favor of their plan from IPI.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:13 am
From now until the 27th, the carnival tour continues.

Comment by Anon221 Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:15 am
I guess they feel like they have to look like they are doing something, since they don’t want to work on putting together this years budget.

Comment by Joe M Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:20 am
I always look forward to serious, thoughtful policy positions from leaders who excel at developing and implementing solutions to complex problems. I also look forward to whatever it is that these three are going to do at 10:30 today.

Comment by Fusion Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:26 am
He’s finally done it: peak OODA loops.

Comment by Sam Weinberg Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:28 am
You’ve got to hand it to the Governor and Republican leaders - always using their thinking caps when it comes to circumventing the constitution!

Comment by Stones Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:29 am
“Mr. Rauner isn’t blinking despite seven months without a state budget, and at this point he can’t afford to without letting down the taxpayers who elected him in 2014.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/illinois-union-showdown-1453336605

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No surprises here on the OP page of the WSJ. The reporter needs some “learin’” on how to properly capitalize an acronym . Although, it may have been intentional…

As to the “taxpayers who elected him” meme, he is Governor of the ENTIRE state, not just who he feels is “friend” worthy (Remember the recent comment from him of if you are against me, you’re not my friend???). This isn’t grade school, and you don’t own the playground even if you did put a big “donation” towards it.

Comment by Anon221 Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:30 am
If they had spent as much time working on the budget as they have with the stunts we would be in a far better place.

Comment by Spliff Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:37 am
Quite literally ‘Been There Before’

Another magical plan to short pensions that will save the state Billions.
A “balanced” budget will be proposed that spends the billions saved by the magic plan.
The magic plan will be deflated by the real courts and Illinois will be even deeper in the hole.
And the beat goes on . . .

Comment by BeenThereB4 Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:41 am
Looks like the Illinois Supreme Court is going to be “ignored” again?

To the Post,

Sincerely, truly…

If Governor Rauner does NOT have 60 and 30, and can’t… honestly and truthfully… say that President Cullerton and/or Speaker Madigan is/are on board AND Rauner won’t look foolish saying as such…

Why… is this even taking place?

At the very minimum, both Quinn and Rod knew their proposals weren’t going anywhere and would play off their own ineptitude.

Rauner thinks everyone IS on board. Delusional, if I wavtedcto give the bebefit of a single doubt, but I’ve listened for 18-19 months what this man has said, and found out later what is real to be… slightly… off… to a real… reality.

So, Governor, show me 60, show me 30, show me constitutionality, and don’t waste my time with drivel that can be easily refuted.

“Thanks!
ow”

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:43 am
When will these two get payment for all of the water they have carrying…

Comment by W.S. Wolcott Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:46 am
…been carrying

Comment by W.S. Wolcott Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:47 am
First question to ask the governor… Governor Rauner, you have obviously put a lot of work into this probably unconstitutional overhaul proposal, why haven’t you dedicated this much time to completing a budget?

Comment by Ducky LaMoore Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:48 am
Working, working working, harumph!

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:49 am
Adding to what 47 pointed out yesterday, just more comical distractions.

We can’t accomplish minimal, basic governance, but we’re going to fill our plates with all sorts of big ideas.

If you’ll recall, the governor last week said his biggest accomplishment to date was signing the K-12 approp. — the one he told GOP legislators to vote against.

Yeah, funding K-12 — that’s a real heavy lift.

Comment by wordslinger Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 8:57 am
Can anyone give me any idea of what the big pension plan is? Do we have any idea of what is going to be announced?

Comment by Tired of it all Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:13 am
Quite literally ‘Been There Before’

“But these aren’t magic beans — these are magic kernels!”

– MrJM

Comment by @MisterJayEm Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:24 am
Seriously? Let’s just throw everything we’ve got at the dam. EVERYTHING

Comment by Honeybear Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:25 am
Showtime featuring the ventriloquist and his dummies. Will we see tag along the Owl. Stay tuned.

Comment by Norseman Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:26 am
It would be more palatable if Rauner’s “Leaders”, while pointing fingers everywhere, would make “pew pew pew” sounds.

Comment by Touré's Latte Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:27 am
1. This is what happens when there is NO session for almost two months in the House and only one session day in almost two months in the Senate. PR battles rule (or rue?!) the day.

2. Say what you will about yesterday’s proposal and the impending presser today but, like the Governor with him beating AFSCME to the punch, Leaders Radogno and Durkin are attacking first. Having done campaign work long enough to what works and what doesn’t, sometimes half the battle (or more) is just coming out swinging first instead of waiting for the first punch.

3. Now that the GOP caucuses will have cash to throw behind mailers and TV buys, my guess is that some of this is a foreshadowing at what the HRO and SRCC will be rolling out later this summer.

Comment by Team Sleep Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:28 am
Remember guys, the Governor claims he is working his you know what off. What a complete waste of time. I don’t know how he can sit there and tell us he is working so hard and then come out with this.

Comment by Xavier Woods Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:31 am
At this point, they should be put in prison. SERIOUSLY

I am not joking. They have a duty to uphold the Constitution is the United States AND Illinois. They are more then corrupt and should be put in prison.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:32 am
of the

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:32 am
I have to believe The Owl will be there.

Why?

Sandack was on Chicago Tonight as the Guv’s guy, Demmer was there for the Rank and File.

Sandack’s role isn’t to be just the mouthpiece to Hoot the latest talking point, Sandack’s role is to ensure that whatever is rolled out gets the full Raunerite message, leaving nothing to chance, and to fill the gaping holes that need that Raunerite seasoning.

I’d probably be more surprised if Sandack wasn’t there(?)

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:49 am
===2. Say what you will about yesterday’s proposal and the impending presser today but, like the Governor with him beating AFSCME to the punch, Leaders Radogno and Durkin are attacking first. Having done campaign work long enough to what works and what doesn’t, sometimes half the battle (or more) is just coming out swinging first instead of waiting for the first punch.===

Ok…

===3. Now that the GOP caucuses will have cash to throw behind mailers and TV buys, my guess is that some of this is a foreshadowing at what the HRO and SRCC will be rolling out later this summer.===

Showing… what exactly?

“Never mistake activity for achievement.” - John Wooden

Proposing things and doing things are two different… things.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:53 am
–having done campaign work long enough to what works and what doesn’t, sometimes half the battle (or more) is just coming out swinging first instead of waiting for the first punch.–

TS- That says it all right there. Maybe your folks should get out of campaign mode and govern for a change. They MIGHT actually get something done for a change. They got nuthin pumpkin!

DCEO–Got nothing, no jobs added just jobs lost.

DHS –Got nothing, agencies starving, loss of service

IDOT –Got nothing, no projects

IDOR –Got nothing, bleeding revenue

Name a state agency and let me know what they’ve done? What improvement have they made.

From where I sit I see a lot of NOTHING!

Oh, we’re broke you’ll say. We can’t afford to do anything.

Why is that? Because the Turnaround Agenda hasn’t been accepted yet.

Nothing has happened in State Government because a theoretical revenue scheme that ONLY at best raises 551 million dollars has not been adopted yet.

You Raunerites have done NOTHING

So go ahead, win your news cycle. Pat yourselves on the back. Raise your glasses at the country club tonight.

But I hope it haunts you that a lot of other people have a lot of NOTHING tonight.

Nothing does not help business
Nothing does not feed seniors
Nothing does not bring jobs
Nothing does not address poverty
Nothing does not run a city or county
Nothing does not govern a state

Comment by Honeybear Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:54 am
I’m sure they’re going to say that if state workers and retirees use their clout to get Madigan to enact ’structural reforms,’ they will fund pensions…

Comment by Independent retired lawyer, journalist Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:57 am
There seems to be an opportunity here for media outlets to broadcast live from these significant press conferences in Chicago and promote their coverage. Radio? TV? LIS?

Comment by Watch or listen Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:59 am
- Anonymous - Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:02 am:

“- cardsmama - Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:50 am:

Gooner: worse than Blago. At least Blago hid in the bathroom. This dude is constantly stirring it, face in every photo op possible, trying to anger everyone….because he can. I am waiting for one positive event out of this administration.”

I agree with you but I have one positive event. The closing of the State of Illinois JRTC building coming up. My wife who works for the State, which is why I care so much, says that is the worst building around. It is cold in the winter and hot in the summer. There is no lighting and it is very load. All of the people that she knows can’t wait for it to be closed.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:09 am
Bruce’s new theme song!

I don’t know where I’m goin’
But I sure know where I’ve been
Hanging on the promises in songs of yesterday
An’ I’ve made up my mind, I ain’t wasting no more time
Here I go again, here I go again

Tho’ I keep searching for an answer
I never seem to find what I’m looking for
Oh Lord, I pray you give me strength to carry on
‘Cause I know what it means to walk along the lonely street of dreams

Comment by sing Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:14 am
Will be broadcast anywhere?

Comment by Anon Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:15 am
No raises for anybody, and please take a lump sum that is way below what you would earn during your expected life time…that should fix things.

Comment by Facts are Stubborn Things Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:15 am
Let’s bet on how many times the words “consideration” “crisis” and “constitutional” come up. comes up? I say 9, 7, and 8 times respectfully.

Comment by Facts are Stubborn Things Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:17 am
- sing - Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:14 am:

Great choice, I have another one….”Jesus take the wheel”. We could only hope.

Comment by Facts are Stubborn Things Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:18 am
Wonder if they’ve learned anything from past attempts? I guess I’ll have to waste my time reading it, but I won’t be in a hurry …

Comment by RNUG Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:19 am
clearly he plans to announce a plan to fund the pension obligations.
clearly

Comment by Ghost Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:31 am
Willy - so MJM doesn’t do the same things?! His organization’s mailers and ads are structured in that same fashion: hit pieces that focus on half-truths. Remember the ads against Leslie Munger?!

Honeybear - see above. Turnabout - or, in this case, turnaround - is fair play.

Comment by Team Sleep Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:34 am
For a guy that was going to move to the executive mansion, he sure spends a lot of time in that Chicago office.

Comment by Anon Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:38 am
Sandack didn’t show, the Governor told him he’d “… take it from here… “

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:45 am
- Anon @ 10:38

Rauner doesn’t need the Governor’s Mansion. He already has 9 of them.

Comment by Stones Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:49 am
If anyone doesn’t realize the end game here is to persuade voters to amend the state constitution to change the pension language, well, I’ve got a bridge to sell ya. To mount an effective campaign, though, the Governor and his allies must first demonstrate they have tried everything short of either a) amending the constitution or b) taxing the living hell out of everything that moves in the state to meet the pension obligations and somehow pay for all those things people demand from a state government. The campaign is coming. It’s just a matter of when the Profts and Rauners of the state feel the moment is ripe.

Comment by JB13 Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:54 am
For those looking for my comments, check out the live feed.

Comment by RNUG Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 11:19 am
-JB13-

And the union and everyone else should be working on amendments for both a Millionaires surcharge AND a graduated income tax, and specify the surcharge only goes away after the increased rates from a graduated tax meet or exceed the Millionaires tax. They want to take away our constitutional protections, let’s try to hit them with double taxation.

/s … but only partially

Comment by RNUG Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 11:42 am
Thanks RNUG

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 11:45 am
http://www.wsj.com/articles/illinois-union-showdown-1453336605

anyone have the full story for those of us without subscription? i’d like to see how he is supposedly saving everyone.

Comment by working stiff Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 11:45 am
++- JB13 - Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 10:54 am:
If anyone doesn’t realize the end game here is to persuade voters to amend the state constitution to change the pension language, well, I’ve got a bridge to sell ya. The campaign is coming. It’s just a matter of when the Profts and Rauners of the state feel the moment is ripe. ++
You might be right, but the middle will see thru his game. They will never vote for it.

Comment by Mama Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 2:51 pm
++- Honeybear - Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 9:54 am:++ The union needs to put this in the newspaper.

Comment by Mama Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 2:54 pm
++- working stiff - Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 11:45 am: ++
“i’d like to see how he is supposedly saving everyone.”
The only people he is saving is Wall Street.

Comment by Mama Thursday, Jan 21, 16 @ 2:58 pm