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* WGN TV…
Hillary Clinton had some harsh words for Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner and Illinois Republicans Wednesday during a campaign rally in Chicago.
“When I look at what’s happening here in Illinois, the Republican agenda to roll back the clock on everything that made the middle class strong in the 20th century, it’s pretty terrifying,” Clinton said.
* Sun-Times…
Clinton also took swipes at Rauner, who gave his budget address Wednesday despite the fact that the state had operated without a budget for more than eight months because of gridlock in the Legislature over the governor’s “Turnaround Agenda.”
“His plan would turn Illinois around, all right,” Clinton said. “All the way back to the time of the robber barons at the start of the 19th century.”
20th Century. 19th Century.
Does she ever talk about the future?
* No offense meant at all to senior citizens, but Clinton not only talks mainly about the past, she also seems to surround herself with older people, and then wonders why she isn’t attracting any young folks to her campaign…
Tuesday night in New Hampshire, 83% of voters aged 18-29 chose Sanders, according to exit polls. And those voters were a full one-fifth of the electorate. Sanders also won 78% of first-time voters. The only age demographic Clinton won? People 65 and older. […]
Clinton lost the vote among women Tuesday night, 44% to Sanders’ 55%, according to exit polls.
She also got clobbered among younger women.
* And guess who her new state press secretary is…
Delmarie Cobb named Illinois Press Secretary for the Hillary For America campaign on Feb. 2, 2016. Since then Ms.Cobb no stranger to politics has been busy on the campaign trail making sure that Hillary is not only visible in Illinois but that she connects with the community.
Yes, the same person who backed Clinton in 2008 and who derided the Obama campaign’s pursuit of young voters. The same person who called Obama’s supporters kool aid drinkers. The same person who said, when speaking of her client Roland Burris, “We should be happy as Illinois citizens, because now we actually do have a senator who wants to be there.”
Of all the people who could’ve been chosen to be the face of Clinton’s campaign here and it’s Delmarie Cobb.
* She’s probably gonna murder me for suggesting this, but wouldn’t somebody like Rikeesha Phelon have been a much better pick? She’s young, respected by just about everyone and, above all, she has mad skills.
American politics is always about the future. Well, at least it is for the winners. Losers generally inhabit the past.
/rant
posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:09 am
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If you compare public statements by Clinton and Sanders there is a striking difference in how much less often Clinton talks about the future. Sanders speaks of the future more often. I suggest that is one reason young people support Sanders over Clinton at this point.
Comment by Gman Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:18 am
==Hillary is not only visible in Illinois but that she connects with the community==
And GTCR, but at least she’s saying the right things about Governor Rauner.
Comment by AC Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:18 am
She’s running against a guy who wants to talk about Mohammed Mossadegh and Henry Kissinger, but he seems to be doing fine with the young ones.
Comment by Confused Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:20 am
Phelon would have been an excellent choice.
Few people under the age of 50 are excited by or “Ready for Hillary”. Plus, some of us still remember Hillary putting on that Yankees cap and claiming she was a big fan “my whole life” when running for Senate in NY. - snark
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:21 am
Rich, you should pull the video from Preckwinkle’s Chicago Tonight interview from last night. She was asked about Clinton versus Sanders and said she is a Clinton delegate, but when asked point blank admitted her sons are with Sanders.
Why she didn’t just say she can’t speak for her family is strange, but it was a very awkward moment.
Comment by Not it Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:23 am
Clinton also says “I” much more than Sanders.
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:26 am
Is Will Caskey available for HillDog?
Comment by I hate RINOs Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:27 am
She talks about herself …a lot.Sanders talks about you and how you have to help him help you. But hey he past is back there…..didn’t she have something to do with Rahm….Nafta….pntr…..a 1994 from Bill and some wars and stuff.
Comment by illinois manufacturer Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:27 am
This has nothing to do with this post but I just love this quote:
Marge: What happened to you, Homer? And what have you done to the car?
Homer: Nothing.
Marge: I don’t think it had broken axles before. Homer: Before, before! You’re living in the past, Marge! Quit living in the past!
Comment by paddyrollingstone Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:28 am
AC, if GTCR had only made a “donation” to the Clinton Foundation instead of paying her directly…
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:29 am
I was at the Illinois for Bernie Sanders Chicago headquarters last night and the diverse group of people who volunteered to make phone calls was amazing. Senior citizens, young students, middle age men (me) and women was refreshing. Such an air of excitement and hope surrounded everybody. Clem Balanoff and Chuy Garcia gave enthusiastic, rousing speeches. They announced other suburban locations would be opening this weekend. I feel the Bern!
Comment by Union Leader Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:29 am
Nailed it Rich
Comment by Johnny Pyle Driver Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:30 am
Woof, inviting Hillary commentary? You’re feeling quite mischievous today.
I thought her Rauner comments were very good. He has a reactionary agenda. It’s hard to talk about without referring to its roots in the distant past.
Comment by wordslinger Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:31 am
It’s campaign by hacks. The Clinton machine devolved into a bunch of hacks who are hanger ons and the Clintons seem to not notice.
Or as Axelrod pointed out
When the exact same problems crop up in separate campaigns, with different staff, at what point do the principals say, “Hey, maybe it’s US?”
She’s still fighting the right wing conspiracy of the 1990s and not addressing what the 2020s should be like.
While Rich has many great posts, this is one of the most perceptive and best.
Comment by ArchPundit Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:32 am
Spot on, Rich. My union — like many — endorsed Hillary, but most of the young staff and members are personally for Bernie.
Comment by Molly Maguire Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:33 am
Obviously, Hillary is a Cap Fax reader and Willie fan:
–Clinton, acknowledging Rauner was delivering his second state budget address at about the same time she was speaking, called it “material for some kind of sitcom…”—
Comment by wordslinger Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:35 am
“My fellow Americans: As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball; but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!”
#FeelTheKang
– MrJM
Comment by @MisterJayEm Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:36 am
Bullseye! Sometimes it just takes time for someone like Hillary to see what’s really happening. Often times though, its too late when they do. What’s really scary is not her inability to see it today, but that she’s seen it before and is REPEATING her mistakes of the past.
Ouch!
Comment by northernwatersports Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:40 am
Who else thought of Oscar when she talked/barked about a lie detecting dog? Wordslinger is right, she reads the Fax.
Comment by Timmeh Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:40 am
When any politician says something like “Politician X will (or has) set back (name issue here) (year, decade, century) my ears come dangerously close to shutting down. Nothing ever returns to the past. It may have some similarities, but it will co-exist with other things that have also changed for better or worse, and the intended and unintended consequences of any policy will set off multiple sets of dominoes that will fall in unforeseen ways. Speaking of Rauner, many readers here would welcome rolling back the state’s clock to any random time period between 1818 and January 12, 2015.
Comment by Six Degrees of Separation Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:44 am
Hillary might want to frame it a different way. Many of her potential voters might welcome rolling back the clock to any random time period between 1818 and January 12, 2015.
Comment by Six Degrees of Separation Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:46 am
This is why I always chuckle when commenters here assume that she’ll be president. She is a HORRIFIC candidate.
Not that any of the GOP candidates are any better, but for how “experienced” a politician she claims to be, her missteps are mind boggling.
Comment by ChrisB Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:51 am
“Spot on, Rich. My union — like many — endorsed Hillary, but most of the young staff and members are personally for Bernie.”
Go to the international unions’ Facebook pages whenever they post about Hillary. The comments are awesome. Criticisms of her flood so fast and furious the staff try to put up a fresh thread.
There is a serious disconnect between union leadership and rank-an-file.
Comment by There is power in a union... Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:51 am
At this rate, nobody is going to be President.
Comment by Ok Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 11:59 am
The problem with Hillary is she thinks she can have it both ways and the public won’t make the connection. One year give a speech to GTCR and collect a $250,000 check. Several years later bash the CEO of the company who is now the governor or Illinois. That’s a reason why 10% of democratic primary voters don’t trust her. Biden probably regret not running everyday he wakes up in the VP mansion in DC.
Comment by Almost the Weekend Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:01 pm
I’m in my late 40s and I’m definitely Feeling the Bern (and not just because of last night’s tacos). He’s the first person in politics I’ve ever donated to, and I’ve done so monthly since last April. He’s Rauner’s polar opposite and I absolutely love the fact that he understands that a strong middle class is what America needs.
Comment by CharlieKratos Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:02 pm
It was great to see Hillary calling Rauner out for his union-busting efforts. I was waitin’ for either Hillary or Bernie to say something about this.
I believe unionization and union rights need to be a big national issue, since income inequality is so high. Winning better compensation at the bargaining table is one way to redistribute income.
Comment by Grandson of Man Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:02 pm
This is spot on! Other than richy, rich’s or the connected, there’s no young people involved with Clinton ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. The geezers have been measuring the drapes at the the White House and throwing sharp elbows for the last 2 years and it’s blowing up in there faces. No one, no one that wasn’t involved with HRC 8 years ago has been invited to help out - other than to donate money. This has been a very costly mistake.
Comment by Feelin' Da Bern Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:02 pm
Because heaven forbid we return to the peace and prosperity of the 1990’s. Center-left politics may not be sexy or utopianistic, but they work, as both Bill Clinton and Obama (yes, a center-left President) has shown. Hillary has moved to the left of Bill during the primary but she’s still the closest to those policies (read Bob Woodward’s book on her contributions to passing the 1993 budget act for more).
Comment by lake county democrat Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:06 pm
Still, Bernie’s supporters should not ignore the case made by the Bernie skeptics. It is based on evidence.
What would a President Sanders do when he is not going get he is way 100% of the time? Or is he just as cynical as the Republicans, who hawk a “balanced budget amendment” knowing they never will get it?
As a President Sanders makes his foreign policy and commander-in-chief decisions, will his “nay” vote on Iraq do him any good? Do Bernie’s supporters have the intellectual honesty to consider that maybe, just maybe, having a policy opposite to what is currently done might be an even bigger failure. Obama campaigned on closing Gitmo. How has that worked out? He campaigned on Hilary’s Iraq vote, but did he end the drone program? But yes, after Obama trashed the place, we need someone who can restore what President Nader accomplished. I cannot wait for the 5% economic growth. Much better than the 4% by Jeb!
Comment by Burny Baker Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:11 pm
The leadership thinks she’s inevitable. That’s been the murmuring ever since 2012,”it’s her turn”. Well, I find it funny that she got beaten by a younger candidate who everyone said couldn’t win, who attracted the youth vote, and now it is a much older candidate who is attracting the youth vote that people say can’t win. Yeah, her focusing on her boomer bonafides yet again isn’t going to get her to the nomination.
Comment by Me too Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:11 pm
As another poster hinted, it is always interesting, and maybe even a good test of character, to compare the use of “I” against the use of “we”, “us” and similar. As a trial run, try this with our current President. Drifting a bit off topic, it sure appears that both parties are in a heap of trouble in this Presidential election cycle; Bernie and Hillary at one end and an obnoxious Trump on the other, called out just today by no less than the Pope. Jeeze Louise.
Comment by Keyser Soze Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:11 pm
Good points about Cobb.
But I have seen a shift in Hillary’s speeches lately. The night of the New Hampshire primary she spoke a lot about the future and the need to address economic disparities for the younger generations.
Some of those critiques are valid, but I noticed a shift. I think she is starting to get it.
Comment by siriusly Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:13 pm
Most rational people’s nightmare, Sanders vs Trump or Cruz: remember, one of the nominees ends up President of the United States of America for four years. Elections are always exactly, inescapably about “compared to who?”
Comment by steve schnorf Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:16 pm
2012 was the only presidential election that I recall since 1980 without a Clinton or Bush running for Pres or Veep. Clinton and Bush fatigue-you bet!!
Comment by train111 Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:16 pm
If she’s just ’starting to get it’, she’s too many steps behind in her thinking
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:22 pm
===but they work, as both Bill Clinton===
Bill Clinton was the master of future politics. Hillary Clinton… not.
Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:30 pm
I don’t want to vote for someone who’s just now starting to get it. I will vote for someone who got it forty years ago and never waffled.
Comment by Homer J. Quinn Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:34 pm
Rich, the point was that the policy works and Hillary is the only one running on such a policy. I’m not disagreeing how little that is worth in today’s politics, I’m bemoaning it. The media contributes to such style-over-substance.
We’ll get what we deserve.
Comment by lake county democrat Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:37 pm
===Obviously, Hillary is a Cap Fax reader and Willie fan:
–Clinton, acknowledging Rauner was delivering his second state budget address at about the same time she was speaking, called it “material for some kind of sitcom…”—===
“Dad’s Home State” is trying to get her to do a cameo.
Fingers crossed.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:38 pm
Bernie, when asked how he will accomplish his progressive agenda with a Republican Congress, will tell his followers that the people’s revolution will force the change. President Sanders will tell Mitch McConnell to look out the window and see all the people demanding change. The question then comes to President Sanders is what is he going to do when Mitch McConnell says “pull the shades”..
Personally I’ve never seen such a dismal crop of Presidential hopefuls. There’s not a statesman or woman among them. For the most part the field is made up of social crusaders who distract the voters away from the Rauner class who are plunging their economic lives further and further into the dumpster.
Voters on both sides are angry at the politicians but they haven’t yet acquired the ability to focus on what they should be angry about. If and when they do…look out..
Comment by Mouthy Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:49 pm
Does anyone have a TV Guide? What is on HBO this weekend?
Sanders: Free College and Legal weed.
Tough to beat among the young. What is Clinton’s response going to be: Pay you to go to college and Weed is FREE?
The Clintons are part of the DLC, pro-NAFTA move Union jobs to Mexico plan, votes for wars. Hillary can’t win her own gender and age bracket? She sent peoples kids needlessly to their death halfway around the world. Women hate it when corrupt politicians profit from war with their children’s blood. That is why Hillary can’t even win Democratic Women over 50.
Comment by Beaner Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 12:49 pm
every child deserves a chance to live up to her God-given potential. is something Hillary says all the time!!!!! it’s practically the mantra of the campaign.
Comment by Amalia Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 1:30 pm
System default to status quo. Hillary has been that from the get go. When buffeted by extremes, the bet is on the least insecure state of the status quo.
The media holds a great share of blame in all this. As a whole it seems to have a great capacity for not asking the most inconvenient of questions of the system and the system’s candidates.
Comment by Vole Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 1:34 pm
System default to the status quo. Hillary has been that from the get go.
The media plays a big role in system select when it avoids the most inconvenient questions of the system and the system’s candidates. The safe bet still rides with Hillary — the least insecure position in a world buffeted by extremes and craziness.
Comment by Vole Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 1:43 pm
Future yes but also recent past. The Bern’s comments about Wall Street turning the economy on its head resonates with many, especially the young who are first-hand witnesses to their parents retirement savings, college savings, home mortgages and lives being yanked out from under them.
Comment by Nick Danger Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 1:43 pm
After Dubya & Cheney, even Trump doesn’t scare me.
Comment by Qui Tam Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 1:45 pm
Just gonna say this, our high school held a mock caucus in February, Bernie won every single time. Hillary got at most 15 people out of 100, she wasn’t even viable in a bunch of caucuses. Its worse than people say it is, like trying to find a young person that supports her is very rare.
Comment by MW Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 1:45 pm
After Dubya & Cheney, even Trump doesn’t scare me.
After Ryan, Blago and Quinn, Rauner doesn’t scare me.
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 1:53 pm
“Does she ever talk about the future?”
Why, at her age?
“Clinton also says “I” much more than Sanders.”
The President taught her that.
“She’s still fighting the right wing conspiracy of the 1990s”
Now she’s fighting a left wing conspiracy.
“[Bernie]’s the first person in politics I’ve ever donated to, and I’ve done so monthly since last April.”
If he becomes the next President you will get the opportunity to donate a lot of your money to other people.
Comment by CapnCrunch Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 2:18 pm
“If he becomes the next President you will get the opportunity to donate a lot of your money to other people.”
and I will gladly pay those higher taxes if it means I’m no longer forced to prop up a for-profit health insurance corporation.
Comment by Homer J. Quinn Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 2:24 pm
I heard Clinton’s sound bite this morning on the radio. Fortunately, it ended before I was able to hit the off switch.
My problem with Clinton is her inability to tell the truth. The email server is just the latest in a long string of attempts to cover up or hide what she is doing.
Comment by Huh? Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 2:30 pm
Homer J Quinn +1
Comment by CharlieKratos Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 2:35 pm
Seeing as 18-35s were 18% of the primary universe in 2008, which was an all-time high and which hasn’t been matched by the IA caucus/NH primary, I’m a little bemused the question is “why isn’t Hillary talking to young voters” and not “why isn’t Bernie talking to the other 82% of the party?”
Also why did that guy up there ask if I was available to work for Hillary?
Comment by Will Caskey Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 2:59 pm
- Will Caskey -
Look at the New Hampshire numbers for Sanders. Here are the numbers of votes that the NH Democratic Party winners got, going back to 1996. See why Sanders supporters might be getting a bit of a positive vibe?
2016: Bernie Sanders: 151,584
2012: Barack Obama: 49,080
2008: Hillary Clinton: 112,404
2004: John Kerry: 84,390
2000: Al Gore: 76,897
1996: Bill Clinton: 76,797
Comment by CharlieKratos Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 3:31 pm
Wait..we’re complaining about Hillary hiring Cobb and talking about the past, when Bernie hires Clem Balinoff as state director?!
Comment by AlabamaShake Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 3:35 pm
I should clarify, those are the Dem primary winner’s number of votes. Also, an interesting little tidbit, Sanders also got 2,095 votes in the Republican primary this year.
Comment by CharlieKratos Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 3:44 pm
Willy - A Clinton cameo is jumping the shark. Just because she called out 1.4% doesn’t mean she is worthy for the show.
Comment by Huh? Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 3:46 pm
Steve S: If it’s Bernie vs. Trump or Cruz, Mike Bloomberg jumps in with both feet plus billions.
Comment by The Historian Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 3:53 pm
- Huh? -
Hillary has turned down our multiple requests so there will be no “Jumping the Shark”
HBO can be demanding with the cameos, ‘tween us.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 3:56 pm
Bloomberg has made that threat in several elections. It’s hard to take seriously.
Comment by CharlieKratos Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 4:12 pm
Another facepalm moment from the Hillary campaign. Sometimes, it almost feels like an attempt to just scrape the Democratic nomination and throw the general.
Comment by Angry Chicagoan Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 4:13 pm
Well, Clinton is very likely to win the Democratic primary and then the general election, so your ranting aside I would brace yourself for Madam President come January 2017.
Comment by tabster Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 4:13 pm
+++ CharlieKratos - Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 4:12 pm:
Bloomberg has made that threat in several elections. It’s hard to take seriously.+++
Amen (other) CK. And though who do take him seriously….don’t know him. If you take Trump and remove the charm and conviction, you get Bloomberg.
Comment by A guy Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 4:19 pm
Sanders ran a great campaign in New Hampshire and he certainly is cleaning up among younger voters, but the earlier post comparing Bernie’s raw vote totals in New Hampshire with previous years is grossly distorted by the fact that there never has been a New Hampshire primary with only two candidates before.
Comment by Michael Westen Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 4:23 pm
Hillary Clinton polls well among African American voters and Latino voters, both young and old. Senator Sanders has done well (in the past) in two small states without significant minority populations. It is expected that Secretary Clinton will start winning primaries in the near future.
Comment by Tibicen Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 4:33 pm
@Alabama Shake RIGHT! and nationally, Tad Devine has suddenly become some young politico savant? funny, but I remember him from the ’80s.
Comment by Amalia Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 5:06 pm
Sanders and Clinton are pretty tied in the diverse state of Nevada. How many wins or close primaries need to occur before Sanders is taken seriously? If he hadn’t been ignored at the first, he’s be doing even better now.
Comment by CharlieKratos Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 5:50 pm
–How many wins or close primaries need to occur before Sanders is taken seriously? –
Another victim heard from.
For crying out loud, he’s among five or six people on Planet Earth who most definitely will be president of the United States within the next 12 months.
Is that serious enough for you cousin? Or do you want a pudding cup, too.
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 5:57 pm
Apologies, gadget problems, 5:57 was me.
Comment by wordslinger Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 6:03 pm
I could go for a pudding cup. Any kind is fine by me.
Comment by CharlieKratos Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 6:40 pm
Another term for a Clinton, and the only unions left in America will be the public sector.
Comment by Blue dog dem Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 8:56 pm
Full Definition of robber baron
1: an American capitalist of the latter part of the 19th century who became wealthy through exploitation (as of natural resources, governmental influence, or low wage scales)
2: a business owner or executive who acquires wealth through ethically questionable tactics
The term robber baron appeared as early as the August 1870 issue of The Atlantic Monthly magazine. By the late 19th century, the term was typically applied to 19th century American businessmen who used exploitative practices to amass their wealth.”
Comment by Enviro Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 8:59 pm
Enviro@8:59. Sounds like you just 2) labeled the Clintons as robber barons. Wonder if we can get a transcript of that $280k pep rally to GTCR?
Comment by Blue dog dem Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 9:03 pm
And what has Bernie Sanders said about Rauner???
Comment by Enviro Thursday, Feb 18, 16 @ 9:07 pm