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* Subscribers know more about what could be in this higher education funding plan if it ever sees the light of day…
State Rep. Dan Brady, R-Bloomington, who represents Illinois State University and whose daughter is a student there, assured the crowd that conversations are taking place across aisle to come up with a solution. He encouraged them to speak with their legislators.
“We need your help,” Brady said, adding that it will ultimately take agreement from House Speaker Michael Madigan, D-Chicago, and Rauner to move a plan forward.
Speaking later, Brady said rank-and-file lawmakers are working on a plan that would blend Fortner’s and Mayfield’s proposals in an effort to win bipartisan support.
* It’ll actually do more than than Rep. Fortner’s bill. Community colleges were also in the mix as of late yesterday. But it ain’t soup yet.
Members made significant progress yesterday, but there’s still some resistance behind the scenes today as some members demand that Chicago State University receive its full annual appropriation - which isn’t going down well with others who have universities that are only receiving a portion of their annual funding.
* This basically empty Senate bill, which is currently in the House, might be the vehicle, as might this one, so keep an eye on them.
Using a Senate vehicle means both chambers can pass the legislation in one day. The Senate President canceled Friday’s session yesterday, but that could change depending on what happens today.
*** UPDATE 1 *** Click here for the latest numbers I could get. The last two columns contain what I believe is the current proposal along with the percentage of each institution’s “normal” approp. CSU gets the highest percentage among universities, at 40 percent. MAP grants would be funded at 43 percent. Everybody else is around 30-31 percent. But some CSU backers are still reportedly holding out for full funding.
*** UPDATE 2 *** A big meeting has wrapped up and I’m told CSU advocates emerged with full funding for the campus. “We’ll see if it holds up,” said a Black Caucus member.
Also, I’m told they’re using SB 2059 as the vehicle.
posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 10:52 am
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Comment by illinois manufacturer Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 10:57 am
I’m thinking this is what they mean by “don’t ask how the sausage is made.”
Comment by Honeybear Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:04 am
Please, this is going on way too long.
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:05 am
While I’m highly annoyed that some legislators are complaining that their districts’ needs are more important than others (which really is maddening), I do take some comfort that rank-and-file are starting to rise up and figure stuff out on their own.
Comment by Just Me Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:08 am
Capt Fax while well intended is about 8-10 hours behind. So be calm and try ignore what is presented as details and or facts.
Comment by Annonin' Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:17 am
If the CSU supporters hold out for special treatment when everyone needs help, future requests for help may be met with an equally cold shoulder from the rest of the rank and file.
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:27 am
Think how Illinois looks to others. I own rental property in Iowa City, for instance. The streets of the little town are full of cars with Illinois license plates. Many of the cars belong to students at the University of Iowa. They came to school there because of the chaos in Illinois, so Iowa people told me. The folks in Springfield need to get their get act together. Their folly is doing us serious harm. It will be very hard to put right.
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:30 am
===is about 8-10 hours behind===
I doubt anything happened at 3 o’clock this morning.
Also, I called around just before posting this. And probably talked to the same folks as you. Just sayin..
Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:34 am
-If the CSU supporters hold out for special treatment when everyone needs help, future requests for help may be met with an equally cold shoulder from the rest of the rank and file.-
Given who Chicago State mainly serves and given that they’ve been warning people all along that they would go entirely down without as much as they can get, I’d say your statement anonymous was at best racially insensitive at worst..well.. C’mon buddy. don’t go there. The other colleges have a bit of padding, some more than others. CSU could go down for good. They are paycheck to paycheck because of the folks they choose to serve. To say what you said is to willfully deny a segment of society in thinly veiled discrimination.
Comment by Honeybear Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:41 am
Rich, you ARE doing a great job. Thank you!
Hope this gets done and then attention is turned to Social Services.
Comment by Jimmy H Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:49 am
Partial funding is better than no funding. But with only partial funding, the uncertainty for higher ed in Illinois will continue - and these same battles will be continue to be fought over and over, with continued casualties (faculty/staff layoffs and students not attending college) along the way.
Comment by Joe M Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:50 am
Do something and throw it in Rauner’s lap.
Comment by Federalist Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:53 am
If the Senate leaves it doesn’t matter what 11th hour fix is done it’s over, right?
Comment by DuPage Bard Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 11:58 am
I hope they don’t give Rauner the final say; he cannot be trusted. @ 71 and 36.
Comment by Jimmy H Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 12:01 pm
There is more than the one reason why CSU is in the condition they are in. Regardless, they are the closest to closure. None of the universities can continue under these circumstances without incurring severe damage.
Comment by Higher Ed Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 12:03 pm
Honeybear, this is a stopgap bill to keep things from closing down now and to assure IL students that schools will be there in the fall semester. This is not intended to be a full funding solution. I would prefer an entire budget solution, but that’s not likely.
Do we want this good to go down because of a few schools getting a whole loaf instead of the slices Fortner’s bill would provide?
Comment by Norseman Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 12:08 pm
Dare we hope?
Comment by James Knell Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 12:16 pm
@ Honeybear 11:41
With due respect, there are other campuses that are almost at the paycheck-to-paycheck stage (and for now former employees, well past it). I share your distaste at the tone of the 11:27 anonymous post, but Norseman 12:08 is right. We need immediate help statewide — to let an opportunity fail because of special pleadings would be incredibly irresponsible.
Comment by WIUoblivion Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 12:21 pm
Sorry guys, I got my hackles up over the tone of it and the use of “special treatment”. I totally get what you all are saying. I creep back under the bridge now. Sorry
Comment by Honeybear Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 12:47 pm
So CSU gets full funding and EIU / WIU gets a pittance and will become the CSUs of FY17? Awesome governing there Springfield.
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 12:59 pm
== Dare we hope? ==
With a healthy dose of skepticism, but yes, I do, in fact, dare.
Comment by thunderspirit Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:00 pm
Honeybear, I’ll never consider you a troll. You’ve been a solid and thoughtful commenter.
Comment by Norseman Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:06 pm
Who will protect WIU? It surely ain’t Norine Hammond.
Comment by WIUblues Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:09 pm
Will the Gov. Sign it, sit on it or veto it?
Comment by Thoughts Matter Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:09 pm
They should peg funding to graduation rates. Chicago State would get 14%.
Comment by Thunder Fred Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:11 pm
Hey Thunder Fred, do you know how graduation rates are calculated?
Please explain.
Comment by Blue Bayou Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:18 pm
I agree that while some schools are in better shape than others, it would be problematic is CSU got its full allocation, while others suffered with less than half what is due them. Students are students. We all serve a special population of some kind and we all suffer in some degree with lack of funding.
Comment by xxtofer Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:29 pm
Blue Bayou- no problem. Try this link www.google.com
Comment by Thunder Fred Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:38 pm
@Norseman at 1:06
+1
Comment by WIUoblivion Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:43 pm
This must not be allowed to be the last word on FY16 funding. The universities have already been running on fumes for several years. They cannot continue to function if they never receive 60% of their FY16 appropriation.
Comment by isityouDB? Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:51 pm
Amendment filed.
http://ilga.gov/legislation/99/SB/PDF/09900SB2059ham002.pdf
Comment by ryan Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:51 pm
@Anonymous 12:59 pm. This is what I worry about, also.I’m not sure EIU can take another year like this one. 30% funding will not do it.
Comment by EIUSupporter Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 1:56 pm
This bill is meant to put out the fires, no more than that. The biggest fire is at CSU, so they get the most water. This will not put any of the fires out, but it will knock the flames down for awhile. The next flare ups will get more water…probably EIU &/or WIU, maybe IMSA.
Comment by Pot calling kettle Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 2:31 pm
IMSA might not be salvageable… Even now, what IMSA was, IMSA might never be again…
It’s that dire.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 2:35 pm
I do suspect IMSA is gone. This won’t save it. I’ve worked with them on some things over the last couple of years. It’s a great little place but I think Rauner has killed it now.
Comment by Chucktownian Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 2:51 pm
Pot: ===The next flare ups will get more water…probably EIU &/or WIU, maybe IMSA. ===
Flare ups? WIU/Macomb is gonna be ashes and soot if we don’t get some help NOW. Come on, man!?!
Comment by MacombInFlames Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 3:30 pm
No strings attached for CSU? Seriously, that university needs to institute genuine administrative reforms as part of any bailout.
Comment by Anon Thursday, Apr 21, 16 @ 5:27 pm
http://collegecompletion.chronicle.com/state/#state=ny§or=public_four
A look at college graduation rates and state funding PER The year 2011 across the nation…
Comment by M3ct Friday, Apr 22, 16 @ 7:53 am