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IL delegate and Sanders backer Troy LaRaviere, prez of the Chicago principals assoc., won't say if he'll vote for Hillary … or Jill Stein.
— Bill Ruthhart (@BillRuthhart) July 25, 2016
* Whew…
Angry Democrats heckled outgoing party chief Debbie Wasserman Schultz with boos and cries of “shame!” on Monday as the party tried to move past an embarrassing email controversy and heal divisions before this week’s national convention begins.
In her first remarks since announcing her resignation on Sunday, the Florida congresswoman struggled to be heard in her Monday morning address before her home-state delegation. Some delegates, apparently disappointed supporters of her primary rival, Bernie Sanders, jeered and waved signs reading “Thanks for the ‘help,’ Debbie,” and more simply, “E-mail.”
Her supporters pushed back, standing on chairs and yelling at the Sanders people to step back or sit down.
Wasserman Schultz tried to shout over the raucous crowd, saying, “We have to make sure that we move together in a unified way!”
Yeah. Unified. Right.
* Sun-Times…
Illinois delegates flocked to Philadelphia on Sunday ahead of what has already been a dramatic start to the Democratic National Convention, amid leaked Democratic National Committee emails that targeted Bernie Sanders’ primary campaign.
And there’s a continued surge of support for the Vermont senator just days before Hillary Clinton will accept the presidential nomination. […]
On Sunday, [Sanders Illinois campaign manager Clem Balanoff] called the leaked emails “outrageous” and said he supports Democratic National Committee Chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s decision to quit after the convention.
“People like this, it’s like if it wasn’t within the party, this is the kind of thing you go to jail for,” Balanoff said. “It’s similar to Watergate. The break in and playing games, that’s wrong. And the whole idea is very Donald Trump-ish. When [Wasserman Schultz] tries to divide the religious wedge to be able to win a nomination. It’s outrageous.”
* Tribune…
Clinton delegate and South Side Ald. Carrie Austin said some Sanders supporters are dragging their feet, and that it’s time for them to get in line as Clinton has incorporated some of the senator’s ideas into her campaign and the party’s platform.
“What more do they want her to do? That’s the part that bothers me. I mean, c’mon. What more do you want her to give of herself to convince you?” said Austin, 34th. “She’s doing everything within the character of who she is. Why would she step outside the character of the person of who she is? You want me to do a jig? I don’t know how to dance. So, I think they’re overreaching and they just don’t like her. Period.” […]
For her part, [House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie] said she was optimistic the party would be unified after a meeting of delegates in Springfield earlier this year.
“Party unity is already assured,” she said. “I am sure that the enthusiasm will rise as the convention proceeds.”
I wouldn’t bet a whole lot of money on that. At least, not yet.
* ABC 7…
Illinois Democratic Party Chairman Mike Madigan predicted that by Thursday his 196-member delegation would be solid in its support for Hillary Clinton.
“I expect the Illinois delegation will be united against Donald Trump because of his extremism and for Hillary Clinton,” said Madigan.
However, delegation members who supported Bernie Sanders said they are not entirely on board yet. They want Clinton to accept more of Sanders’ progressive agenda on foreign trade, the minimum wage and changes in the way the party selects convention delegates.
“But I think there are some policy platform issues that we’re concerned about,” said delegate Carol Ammons, an Illinois state representative.
* Related…
* Huppke: As convention starts, Democrats trip over low bar set by GOP
* DNC steps off in Philadelphia with huge protests, high temps
* Democrats Seek Display of Unity Despite Leadership Shuffle
* Illinois Delegates Head to Philadelphia for the Democratic Convention
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Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 11:19 am
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Michael Moore wrote an essay that I think and fear could be spot in. Trump could very well win
Comment by illinois manufacturer Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 11:23 am
Jill Stein? Are the Greens even on the ballot in Illinois?
I wonder if Troy LaRaviere has landed a gig yet. Plenty of principal openings in CPS. Although, actually running a school might take time from his mayoral campaign.
Comment by Four and a half Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 11:28 am
These Sanders delegates don’t know how to declare victory and move on. DWS is gone, platform has major parts of Sanders’agenda, compromise measure on superdelegates passed, etc.
Comment by ChicagoVinny Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 11:29 am
Hillary is very likely to be our next Prez, temporary setbacks notwithstanding. But she is very much a candidate of the past-the 20th century. The Sanders folks, and the Greens, they need to keep up the pressure. Why go slinking on home and let the status quo reign. Which it will if they let it.
For that very reason, I made my first contribution to the Green party today.
Noticed those forest fires out in LA? Those smoky views of the setting sun over the big forest north of the city? Our future with the status quo.
Comment by Cassandra Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 11:36 am
What more do they want her to do? That’s the part that bothers me. I mean, c’mon. What more do you want her to give of herself to convince you?” said Austin, 34th. “She’s doing everything within the character of who she is. Why would she step outside the character of the person of who she is? You want me to do a jig? I don’t know how to dance. So, I think they’re overreaching and they just don’t like her. Period.”
Couldn’t have said it better myself. As a country we are done with the Bushes and done with the Clintons. Time to move on.
Comment by BIG R. Ph. Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 11:43 am
It’s still the Democratic Party, not Sanders’ Socialist Party. I think some of these people won’t be satisfied unless Clinton turns down the nomination and asks Sanders to replace her, with Warren as his VP.
Comment by Wensicia Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 11:51 am
The choice of a pro-TPP VP told the Progressives that Clinton doesn’t care about their voice at all. If it’s Clinton vs Trump, I’m voting Stein (and yes, she’s on the Illinois ballot).
Comment by CharlieKratos Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 11:54 am
Meh. Trump will unite the Democrats just like Clinton unites the Republicans. Neither side can stand the other side’s nominee. It’s a visceral thing. The only question remaining is, can one of these two convince the rest of the country that the other is a dangerous demagogue who lacks the experience and temperament to be President?
Also, I never cared for DWS. I didn’t think she was terribly effective, but whatever. The funny part of this is Bernie Sanders complaining so loudly that the DNC had its thumb on the scale helping Clinton behind the scenes.
Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat, has never been a member of the party, and never took any interest in party affairs over the course of his long political career. Then he decides to run for President and running as a Democrat was an easier path for him than running as a Socialist, which is what he is.
A Socialist Party member complaining about the “unfair” rules for nominating a Democratic presidential candidate gets no sympathy from me.
Comment by 47th Ward Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 11:55 am
DWS’s actions, to tilt the scales during the primary, was a bad deal. If she was really concerned about party unity she would have resigned effective before the convention and then sat the convention out.
Bernie supporters will come around, for the most part, but this “What more do they want” bs isn’t going to help. Can Hillary supporters honestly say, that if the tables were turned and the DNC was caught tipping the scales against them, they would be over it by now.
Lose the attitude and be a little more understanding, and unity will come sooner. We all must do whatever we can to keep Trump out of the Whitehouse. And in the end that will unify us . . . it must.
Comment by BeenThereB4 Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:06 pm
@ ChicagoVinny
I think the problem is with DWS and not with Sanders’ supporters. The smart thing to do would have been to have resigned effective immediately and turn it over to someone else to actually gavel the convention to order, etc. DWS seems to feel like she’s entitled to stick around because of all her hard work. She’s wrong and apparently clueless, too. Doesn’t seem to me that insisting on a public role at the DNC helps Clinton.
Comment by Phil Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:08 pm
–She’s doing everything within the character of who she is. Why would she step outside the character of the person of who she is? You want me to do a jig? I don’t know how to dance.–
Yeah, okay, both condescending and revealing at the same time. I dropped the Dems because of their corporatist leanings and the fact that HRC spoke to GTCR while Rauner was running a against Quinn.
I was going to vote HRC if the poll got to 10pts or less. Now I’m not so sure. I might vote Jill no matter what. If the Dems are going to be this way well then as Rich says “Bite me”.
I know I’m about to get flamed by those comparing me to that 1/5 union households who voted for Rauner. I get it. That’s fair.
But what is important to me more than supreme court nominees, or the vast powers of the Presidency, that might fall into the hands of a Trump Presidency if a lot of us do this (vote for Jill) is fighting Oligarchy/Plutocracy and the corrupting power/influence of unrestrained capitalism which produces the need to maintain cultural hegemony and oppressive systems. At my level here in East St. Louis, it’s the root of a lot, a lot, a majority of evil.
HRC is making choices now that confirm her adherence to that in multiple ways. She the “character who she is”. She, to me, an elitist, privileged, corporatist, oligarch.
I haven’t made up my mind yet, but boy howdy did that line make me mad.
I was thinking about the comedian Ron White who in a skit about riding in an airplane drunk, developed engine trouble. “Hit somethin’ hard. I don’t want to limp away from this.” Maybe a Trump Presidency is the hard thing we need to hit in order to wake us up as a nation. I don’t know. I’m really wrestling with this.
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:12 pm
You really are starting to see the influence of all those Illinoisans moving to Florida.
Comment by Michelle Flaherty Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:13 pm
Unity seems to have a different definition these days. This party looks a little stodgy at the moment. This is coming from someone who knows quite well what a stodgy party looked like for far too long. Eek.
Comment by A guy Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:13 pm
Stein is on the ballot in Illinois.
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:17 pm
Nothing DWS did prevented Sanders from winning, that being said she is a liar and should have been sent home Sunday.
Comment by skeptic Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:21 pm
Skeptic, except keep superdelegates solely for HRC and kept them in line behind her way before no matter what. Maybe the “establishment” is behind her but I really believe that was her main job is preventing defections.
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:34 pm
@Phil Just saying, they could take a page from Sanders and Weaver, who understand DWS is heavily damaged, and will be a footnote before this is over. They won, they know it, and they don’t sweat some minor face-saving moves for her. Declare victory and move on.
Comment by ChicagoVinny Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:36 pm
While I understand and appreciate the angst some in both parties may feel about their candidates I do not think third party candidates are the answer.
Anyone remember the impact that the Perot and Nader campaigns had and how they changed the outcome in the General Election?
Comment by illini Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:37 pm
Honeybear - I’m with you. To borrow an old colloquialism, I would vote for a yellow dog before I voted for clinton.
My problem with her is her lack of honesty and transparency.
Comment by Huh? Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:39 pm
This:
== The only question remaining is, can one of these two convince the rest of the country that the other is a dangerous demagogue who lacks the experience and temperament to be President? ==
and this:
== But what is important to me more than supreme court nominees, or the vast powers of the Presidency, that might fall into the hands of a Trump Presidency if a lot of us do this (vote for Jill) is fighting Oligarchy/Plutocracy and the corrupting power/influence of unrestrained capitalism which produces the need to maintain cultural hegemony and oppressive systems. ==
The voters I talk to on both sides of the aisle (admittedly more conservative than the population in general) are either (a) so dug in they will just vote the party line or (b) fed up with “more of the same”.
I don’t know how this election is going to turn out, but I do know the traditional middle of the road voters are feeling disenfranchised and ignored. They think both candidates are flawed. They see all the revealed “behind the scenes” manipulation as confirming their viewpoints.
About the only thing I can say for sure is we haven’t seen nothing yet; Trump / Clinton is going to be even uglier than Rauner / Madigan.
Comment by RNUG Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:42 pm
Wikileaks is saying another batch of emails is coming out. These directly involve Hillary.
Comment by Cadillac Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:47 pm
== Anyone remember the impact that the Perot and Nader campaigns had and how they changed the outcome in the General Election? ==
Yep. Perot, even with his out and in craziness, managed almost 19% of the popular vote.
Comment by RNUG Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:47 pm
when do they have their private session with Bernie? because based on the message that Jeff Weaver…usually a bomb thrower….had today on tv, Bernieland is preaching unity with HRC. Weaver did not mention any problems until the very end of the interview and said, rightly, that the emails are a problem, that they encourage respect in the hall, though they cannot control their delegates, but they must stop Trump. Bernie, Jane and Weaver are that campaign, so if Weaver is this tight on unity message, I imagine the meeting with Bernie will be very pointed to his supporters.
Comment by Amalia Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:54 pm
–About the only thing I can say for sure is we haven’t seen nothing yet; Trump / Clinton is going to be even uglier than Rauner / Madigan–
I agree. I will point out that Ross Perot did not win a single state with his 19% popular vote. I feel it is quite important to break the lock of the two party system. We have to have more diversity. In that vein I hope Johnson does well for the Libertarians.
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:58 pm
Bernie Sanders just got booed during his DNC speech when he told the crowd to vote for Clinton. Who would’ve thought just a few months ago that it would be the DNC (not the RNC) convention that was going to be controversial and messy. Strange year in politics.
Comment by BK Bro Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:07 pm
Honeybear - “I will point out that Ross Perot did not win a single state with his 19% popular vote” - Exactly right.
Yet, if Nader had not drawn the Gore votes we would not have had the Florida fiasco.
This is my problem with voting for the outlying candidates that may be on the ballot. It is about the Electoral College not the popular vote.
Comment by illini Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:20 pm
–Bernie Sanders just got booed during his DNC speech when he told the crowd to vote for Clinton.–
I get it. It’s the feeling of betrayal by Bernie himself. It’s a movement. It’s starting to transcend the personality and I think that’s good.
Regardless I don’t know how this is all going to turn out.
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:23 pm
BK Bro, Sanders got those boos during a rally of his supporters. The official Sanders speech to the convention comes tonight.
Comment by Democrat Grrrl Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:32 pm
starting to transcend the personality, yeah it’s not good so far. it simply plays into Trumps hands. unless you want that. I want women’s rights, union rights, civil rights. that won’t happen with Trump/Pence. Bernie knows that.
Comment by Amalia Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:32 pm
Those concerned about corporate influence (not really even influence but all out control) might consider how Citizens United might get overturned. It certainly won’t happen with a Trump presidency. Like it or not, most of the electorate is in the middle. Change happens incrementally. Bernie has never been a democrat so, while he won enough votes to influence the platform, it’s time to look at what future you want. A vote for a third party candidate ensuring a Trump victory and a more right wing Supreme Court or moving toward a more progressive country, albeit a little more slowly than you prefer?
Comment by Sense of a Goose Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:34 pm
===Nothing DWS did prevented Sanders from winning,===
Not sure this assertion is true. And there’s no real way to know.
Comment by A guy Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:37 pm
First off, everyone knew that the DNC was shutting down anyone other than Clinton. The RNC would have done the same thing if it could.
Yet the DNC couldn’t secure their Sanders hatred behind security software. Clinton bots are claiming Russia did this, yet also wants us to believe that the same evil players didn’t touch our national security communications while on a craptastic series of home servers Clinton used for her entire freaking term in office?
Get you lies straight folks!
The DNC set up the most unpopular Democratic presidential candidate ever by sandbagging real contenders. Mrs. Clinton’s gang completely corrupted the DNC. She’s got a real Midas Touch going on, doesn’t she?
I’m angry. The GOP got trolled and the Democrats got rolled. The corruption is nearly complete.
20 candidates and we ended up with two of the worse nominees ever.
Only a blind partisan is thrilled.
Comment by VanillaMan Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:43 pm
Sense of a Goose is spot on. Barring some major history altering event, the legacy of the next president will be the Supreme Court makeup. In 8 years we’ll still be fighting the war on terror, the Middle East will still be a mess, the economy will still be yo-yo-ing, and Madigan will still control everything. The only step forward will be, hopefully, a progressive Supreme Court. And while Trump, if he gets to nominate justices, may not be as bad as Cruz, the SC will still tilt right and will remain that way for too long.
Comment by MSIX Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:49 pm
What’s the big deal with Debbie? She’s a Democrat. Bernie is an independent running as a Democrat.
If Bernie is so put out, he should’ve become a a Democrat long ago.
Comment by Winnin' Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:51 pm
It’s this sort of mindset that got us Bruce Rauner! Hold your nose and vote for Hillary!
Comment by Now What? Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:51 pm
Illini, I get what you’re saying. I really do. At the same time, I feel it’s super super important for people to vote for the person they feel will represent them the best, not be pressured into voting for someone they don’t. It’s a fundamental right. At this point Jill Stein does it for me, even thought she is totally going to lose. Now, my plan as I have said before that if Illinois gets to be a close race then I will consider voting for HRC. But look at that 583 data. Trump is up over Clinton except for Illinois and a few other states. That tells me that the DEMS are running a weak candidate that in my opinion was working to rig the system years ago. It’s just now coming to fruition. Not to mention that Obama has not done anything to curb corporate power or hold corporations/banks accountable. I don’t want more of the same. Again,
Hit something hard. I don’t want to limp away from this one.
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:52 pm
===Get you lies straight folks!===
Easy there VanillaMan. You’re confusing things, intentionally I suspect, or at least via willful ignorance on your part.
First, the DNC announced the hack weeks ago, and the security firm they brought in pointed the finger to a source within Russia as the hacker. To stress, the DNC did this, which (as hard for you to believe as it must be) is not the Clinton campaign.
Second, fortunately for Clinton, the DNC was not in charge of setting up her server that was used during her tenure as SOS. Apples/Oranges. Thirteen different investigations and no one has uncovered any evidence that this server was hacked. Once again, to clarify, multiple partisan, bi-partisan and independent investigations, nothing was found other than bad judgement.
But please, by all means, don’t get caught up in the facts. Slime away oh wise one.
She is an easy target though, and cable news and talk radio have already made it impossible for anyone to think about her unemotionally. You’re not alone Vanny, but that doesn’t mean you’re right either.
Comment by 47th Ward Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:55 pm
–Citizens United might get overturned. It certainly won’t happen with a Trump presidency.–
I’m quite certain it wouldn’t be overturned under a Clinton Presidency either. Bill Clinton is the one who started us on the corporatist crusade for donor cash and influence.
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:55 pm
Can Mike Madigan ever go more then 15 minutes without using the word extreme?
Comment by Sue Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 2:10 pm
==- ChicagoVinny - Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 12:36 pm:==
The problem is that most BernieBros don’t seem to think beyond today. Do they want the story to be their rude and disruptive behavior or that DWS (a terrible chair for a multitude of reasons) is finally axed?
==- A guy - Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 1:37 pm:==
What’s the evidence the other way?
Comment by Precinct Captain Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 2:13 pm
Honeybear, democrats being anti-business is a public sector union nirvana. Trade unions understand that balance is necessary. You can’t put business out of business. That’s why most people are in the middle. We have to have employers and they have to make money. Hopefully, we can follow the lead of nearly every other industrialized nation and take care of workers in a better fashion but saying all business is evil is certainly not the answer.
Comment by Sense of a Goose Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 2:15 pm
Honeybear, anti corporate in all things is why democrats had difficulty winning elections until Bill Clinton moved the party to center left. Trade unions and private sector unions understand that you can’t break the employer. Public sector unions haven’t quite figured out that occasionally you live to fight another day. Hopefully, we can move toward more progressive policies like every other industrialized nation but we need to be seen as working for balance.
Comment by Sense of a Goose Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 2:25 pm
=== - Precinct Captain - Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 2:13 pm:
What’s the evidence the other way? ===
Read it again. He said there was no real way to know. Man, some of you really need daily attention from “a guy” in a creepy sort of way.
Comment by Birdseed Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 2:25 pm
Based on the events so far, Bernie himself is feeling the bern! The bern is evolving into a political wildfire.
Side note: The DNC really needs to do some quality control on their staffers. I mean seriously, political 101 = don’t put something controversial in writing. This is 2016.
Comment by BK Bro Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 2:26 pm
Looks like DWS will not gavel open the convention tonight. About time she finally got the message, just go away.
Comment by Wensicia Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 2:34 pm
Honeybear @1:55 - we actually agree far more than we might have differing opinions on some points.
I have seen the polls as well, especially in the swing states that suddenly appear to be in play. Keep in mind this is still July.
And I agree that both parties do have seriously flawed and weak candidates but given the intraparty dynamics and their respective “rules” this is the inevitable result. Agreed, my candidate did not win either, but I don’t think that I will abandon my party.
I agree that personality, money and organization can sway a lot of voters either way - witness some of the statewide and local GA races in Illinois.
I do believe in voting your conscience and would respect anyone who does that - my suspicion though is that there could be an undervote in a fair number of races this fall. Time will tell.
Comment by illini Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 2:38 pm
vote to win. anything less will get us Trump. did you actually listen to him on Thursday night? the Washington Post took the unprecedented step of saying they will not endorse him because he is dangerous. the only candidate who can stop Trump is HRC. polling let alone voting for anyone else, in any state, regardless of the polls as we go, sends the message that Trump is possible. he cannot be possible. it’s that dangerous a thing.
Comment by Amalia Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 2:51 pm
Sense of Goose, thank you for the thoughtful response but I’m going to have to disagree somewhat. I don’t want to put business out of business. I am all about Main Street and not Wall Street. I also agree that employers need to make money. I don’t have a problem with making an honest/ethical profit (most times). What I have a problem with is where that profit goes.
Let me back up a bit. I believe that what made American companies great was
1) Making a great product.
2) Taking care of the customer.
3) Taking care of your own people.
The “Greatest Generation” instilled and enshrined these into our corporate structure. They went from Great Depression and WWII to the economic wonder of the world. They then handed off the largest transfer of wealth in history to the baby boomers. But starting in the Seventies, things started to change. The Boomers wanting to increase this wealth made a push for deregulation of the financial industry indeed every where. Why, profit. Little by little and then increasingly quicker the three tenants of American business where chipped away at to increase profit.
Now we have
1) The cheapest crappiest product (including planned obsolesce. Meaning you have to replace it all the time)
2) What customer service? Who cares about the customer. “Take all you can. Give nothing back”
3) Outsource, reduce wages, reduce benefits, fight unions, and go after the very thought that citizens should have a living wage.
That’s where we are now Sense of a Goose.
in 2015 DCEO robbed our state of 215 million dollars from going to IDOR from corporations who in most cases had a zero tax liability. So where did they get the write off then? From individual income tax withholding. That’s right, the money your company withheld from your income, they got to keep it to the tune of 215,000,000 in EDGE agreements. Only ONE of these agreements was from an out of state company.
So no I don’t leave it up to hope. I am all about fighting economic inequality and corporate welfare and greed. It’s why I don’t like Trump or Clinton. It’s a battle of oligarchs and the small folk are getting trampled.
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 3:03 pm
– Public sector unions haven’t quite figured out that occasionally you live to fight another day.–
Says the trade/private sector unionist at 7% of the private sector market to the Public sector unionist who is struggling to hold on to the 33% share of State, Municipal, County employees. Tell me again how living to fight another day helped you?
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 3:08 pm
–my suspicion though is that there could be an undervote in a fair number of races this fall. Time will tell.–
That worries me intensely as well and it’s why I’m not in the Only Jill camp. I’ll vote for HRC if it gets tight. I’m not an anarchist.
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 3:36 pm
I thoroughly understand who the Sanders supporters are unhappy. The day before the convention starts, you find out that your party actively worked against your candidate. And now Sanders wants his supporters to follow clinton who they opposed during the primary.
I am sure that many Sanders supporters are feeling betrayed not only by clinton but by Bernie Sanders as well.
Comment by Huh? Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 5:25 pm
A college friend of mine is there. He said it’s a pretty united room. He said there was so booing at 4:30 but that was it. Interesting. I’m glad I’ve got a guy on the inside.
Comment by Honeybear Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 6:23 pm
==I’m quite certain it (Citizen’s United) wouldn’t be overturned under a Clinton Presidency either. Bill Clinton is the one who started us on the corporatist crusade for donor cash and influence.==
The Clinton campaign has said they’re for a constitutional amendment to overturn the Citizen’s United ruling. I don’t particularly believe that it will get done, but at least the Clintons are ~saying~ the right things. I even think it’s possible that they (Bill and Hillary) believe CU went too far and ~want~ to change things. It might be what they think will help them get elected, but I think they see it could be good policy as well.
Comment by Timmeh Monday, Jul 25, 16 @ 7:10 pm
With ANY politician, saying something and doing something are two different things. The best politicians are the ones who come closest to not having a gap with those.
Comment by Honeybear Tuesday, Jul 26, 16 @ 8:47 am