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The dire need for better police training

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* Second City Cop, which is usually known for its loud defense of Chicago police officers, has a striking takedown of the “monumental failure in training and preparing officers for street duty” during the pursuit and eventual killing of Paul O’Neal. There’s some foul language in the post, so be careful if your workplace rules are stringent, but it’s today’s must read.

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posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 2:35 pm

Comments

Anybody who wants to be a cop in most urban areas really should think about it again and not choose it as a job choice.

Comment by Federalist Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 2:48 pm
Their comments reinforce my initial civilian thoughts. Plus, they picked up a lot of points I missed.

I know the Police cannot match the military training, 12 months training for a 7 month deployment, but they need to do more. I would like to know what police officers think is the right amount and type of training.

Comment by Last Bull Moose Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 2:49 pm
===and not choose it as a job choice===

Such a solid citizen you are.

Sheesh.

Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 2:55 pm
I was driving across northern Indiana when this story broke listening to talk radio. Policy vioalations aside, at that time I told my wife if they had hit and killed the violator when he was still in the car armed or not the cops would criminally likely be ok.

Don;t know yet what happened in the back yard.

Comment by Leave a Light on George Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 3:17 pm
most police actually want to do good things. Second City Cop does not want cowboys endangering the lives of other cops with rogue behavior.

Comment by Amalia Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 3:21 pm
==Anybody who wants to be a cop in most urban areas really should think about it again and not choose it as a job choice.==

No one should be a cop in Chicago because ….. why, exactly? Are citizens in urban areas not entitled to police services? Are police standards too restraining? Is this an Ayn Rand type of deal, less government = less problems? I’m so confused!

Comment by Lester Holt's Mustache Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 3:30 pm
There’s a line a mile long (figuratively) to get into the police academy and work for CPD. It’s an adrenalin rush that many crave, as well as the life and death power.

Learning to control that rush and be professional is something the good cops learn to do. Unfortunately there are a few less than “professionals” out there wearing blue.

The trick is identifying them and getting them into more suitable employment before someone gets hurt.

I don’t know that CPD does the best job of that, given the politics of getting a job there…

Comment by illinois bob Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 3:45 pm
=Anybody who wants to be a cop in most urban areas really should think about it again and not choose it as a job choice=

Anybody who wants to be a cop in most urban areas really should think about it, get appropriate training, and do not be afraid to choose it as a job choice.

Fixed it for you.
You are welcome. JFE

Comment by Jake From Elwood Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 3:54 pm
If more cops and “blue lives matter” folks were as honest and willing to confront the truth as SSC did today, there would be no Black Lives Matter movement because the community would feel that there’s at least some empathy in policing. Instead, too many people, refuse to even acknowledge that mistakes may have been made and hide behind the “I wasn’t there” blanket.
Kudos to SSC, whomever they may be. BTW, my sibling is an 18 year CPD veteran.

Comment by FOP family Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 4:00 pm
I have some family members in law enforcement. They don’t like the bad ones any better than anyone else does. I do think the law enforcement culture is starting to turn so as to make it more acceptable for the good ones to be more open about and vocal about battling the bad and/or incompetent.

Comment by titan Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 4:30 pm
video cuts both ways, Ja’mal, activist.

Comment by Amalia Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 4:32 pm
==- titan - Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 4:30 pm:==

If you’re a “good cop” who stays quiet in the face of excessive force, brutality, corruption, and unconstitutional terror, you’re not a “good cop,” you’re a bad one. Unfortunately the culture of unconstitutional policing and lack of accountability runs so thick and so deep in police departments.

Comment by Precinct Captain Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 5:12 pm
One of the unspoken reasons that “good cops” so seldom report “bad cops” is fear of retaliation against them and their families. Check the 1980s Chuck Norris B movie “Code of Silence.”

The solution for criminal conduct within C.P.D. does not entirely rest within C.P.D. or any other department. The state legislature can and should pass a law that any cop who knows of criminal actions/behavior by any other cop must report it to the State’s Attorney/Attorney General’s office, or someone outside their chain of command. If “good cops” can arrest police criminals, then they can be prosecuted and removed from society like any other criminal.

Comment by Payback Wednesday, Aug 10, 16 @ 8:42 pm