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House fails to override SB250. Would eliminate redundant paperwork, streamline function, clean up voter rolls and save money. #AVRinIL
— IL Senate Democrats (@ILSenDems) November 29, 2016
Illinois House fails to override Gov. Rauner veto of automatic registration bill. Four votes shy of 71 needed.
— Ivan Moreno (@IvanJourno) November 29, 2016
#AVRinIL fails to override the veto. 67 yeas, needed 71. What happened to those 86 yeas from before?
— Rep. Carol Ammons (@StateRepAmmons) November 29, 2016
To answer Rep. Ammons’ question, the rest either didn’t show up to town today or are Republicans who switched sides and voted with the governor.
…Adding… The roll call is here. The previous roll call is here.
*** UPDATE *** Harsh…
Trevor Gervais with the government watchdog group Common Cause Illinois noted that the Republican version has no timeline for the policy’s implementation.
“What we anticipate happening is that it would be delayed until after the governor’s reelection in 2018,” he said. “It’s very clear what his motives are for that.”
As the president-elect considers an Attorney General with a checkered record on voting rights, and Republicans take control of more state legislatures and governor’s mansions across the country, Gervais lamented the Illinois did not opt Tuesday to make voting more accessible.
“We’re stepping into four years of direct attacks on voting rights,” he said. “Here in Illinois we actually had an opportunity to expand voting rights before the attacks began, but instead we’re going to do nothing because of our billionaire governor.”
posted by Rich Miller
Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 1:49 pm
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Comment by Amalia Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 1:50 pm
Ammons most likely being rhetorical. Not saying that the bill didn’t need work, but it’s telling when that many (86 to 67) defect. Did they not do their own homework initially, or were they Yea on the original bill knowing Rauner would veto it, then they could get back in line? (rhetorical) Regardless, there’s a “paper trail” now.
Comment by Anon221 Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 1:53 pm
Who are the dems that flipped?
Comment by Chi787 Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 1:54 pm
Original House voting record-
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/99/house/09900SB0250_05312016_055000T.pdf
Comment by Anon221 Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 1:56 pm
===knowing Rauner would veto it===
The veto was a surprise.
Comment by Rich Miller Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 1:59 pm
During the first vote, a network outage at CMS temporarily disabled Rauner’s remote control voting buttons, and the legislators were forced to think for themselves. Thankfully, the problem was rectified for the veto override vote. /S
Comment by AC Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:02 pm
No Dems flipped. Thapedi and Reeves Harris were excused today. Harper and Deluca didn’t vote - likely just weren’t on the floor.
Comment by JoeMaddon Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:03 pm
Four previous “Y votes were either “NV” or “E” this time around. There’s your 71.
Comment by City Zen Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:07 pm
Rich- I stand corrected.
Here are the vote changes:
Did this quickly, so might be some missed or an error.
Changed from Y to N:
Bennett, Bryant, Davidsmeyer, Demmer, Hammond, Hays, Jimenez, McAuliffe, Olsen (new- Sandack had voted Y), Pritchard, Sullivan, Tryon, Unes
Changed from Y to NV:
DeLuca, Harper
Changed from NV to N:
B Wheeler, K Wheeler
Changed from Y to E:
Reaves-Harris, Thapedi
Comment by Anon221 Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:07 pm
The R’s who flipped did so because their Governor stuck it to them, again. This time it wasn’t so public — like when Rauner signed the K-12 portion of the budget after Rauner asked/told R’s to stay off that vote. And this time it wasn’t as embarrassing as when the Gov signed a bill that no Republican voted for (right of conscience bill).
This time the Gov absolutely vetoed the bill by surprise and without prior notice to House and Senate R’s … thereby sticking it to them; again.
Comment by Deft Wing Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:18 pm
Are the Dem’s going to spin this as a riff between Rauner and the R’s leaders? ~s
Comment by Person 8 Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:24 pm
“Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.”
― James Bovard
Comment by AlfondoGonz Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:24 pm
I just don’t really get this bill. If voter registration is too difficult for some people, their vote likely doesn’t add much value to our democracy.
Comment by Just Observing Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:30 pm
===their vote likely doesn’t add much value===
Who died and made you king?
Seriously.
Comment by Rich Miller Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:34 pm
===This time the Gov absolutely vetoed the bill by surprise and without prior notice to House and Senate R’s … thereby sticking it to them; again.===
Which begs the question…how much longer will Rauner’s money continue to hold the R legislators in lock step? One would think multiple stab wounds will eventually peel some away despite the money.
Comment by Cubs in '16 Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:36 pm
===Which begs the question===
You really gotta ask?
Comment by Rich Miller Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:37 pm
Cubs in ‘16- That’s the choice each legislator needs to make between a political career and public service. At least we have the vote records to follow to the polls. They can’t hide from that.
Comment by Anon221 Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:42 pm
==- Just Observing - Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:30 pm:==
I’ll be nice and just suggest you should read the 2016 reporting of Ari Berman.
Comment by Precinct Captain Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:44 pm
== Which begs the question…how much longer will Rauner’s money continue to hold the R legislators in lock step? One would think multiple stab wounds will eventually peel some away despite the money. ==
Opposite. After staring down the barrels of all that money on both sides this past election the Republicans are now entirely dependent on the Governor and the Democrats are entirely dependent on the Speaker. You can’t exist on your own, there’s just too much money out there for one legislator to stand up against. Just ask Ken lost-by-34-points Dunkin.
Comment by The Captain Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 2:44 pm
So the Dems say “voting rights are sacrosant, but it’s fine to draw districts to make voters powerless.” And the Republicans say the reverse. A pox on both houses (in the house).
Comment by lake county democrat Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:01 pm
Any word on the whereabouts of Reps DeLuca, Harper, Thapedi, and Reaves-Harris?
Comment by Grand Avenue Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:05 pm
Democratic House GA shows itself to be absolutely useless once more. Not surprised.
Comment by DHSJim Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:06 pm
The Captain may be right. For two years Madigan has assumed he could peel off a vote or two from the House R’s, but that just hasn’t happened. Rauner’s money makes that really unlikely to happen anytime soon.
And Rauner has tried, umpteen times, to get House D’s to work with him. Dunkin flipping was a big deal; Franks & Drury are oddities (in many ways) and Rauner knew he could expect their assistance from time to time. That said, the expected (prayed for?) Dem House coup has not — yet — occurred. And if it doesn’t happen soon like at swearing-in day in January, and I doubt it will, the protracted stalemate will continue until the 2018 elections — because that one is for all of Illinois’ marbles.
Comment by Deft Wing Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:15 pm
Seems like it would have been a simple solution to address the concerns Rauner had with the bill rather than trying to force it through.
Comment by SKI Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:16 pm
===Dem House coup has not — yet — occurred. And if it doesn’t happen soon like at swearing-in day in January… ===
There will be no Coup.
Why?
“IllinoisGo” and its demise is a prime reason why.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:22 pm
Very few regular votes give to cents about this legislation. It’s an easy vote for GOP legislators to use to support the governor with very little downside - especially now that the elections are over. It’s easier than ever to vote in Illinois. Supporters can go ahead and try to make a big deal out of this. The vast majority of voters don’t care, and they’ll care even less when the fight at the next election is over a budget, tax hikes and Illinois nearly a decade into being the nation’s punchline.
Comment by LessAnon? Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:33 pm
Of course that is a harsh response coming from a former Obama for America campaign worker.
Comment by Anonymous Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:34 pm
Note to Common Cause - a smarter reaction would have been to say you look forward to working with the Republicans and the Governor to iron out your differences and pass a bill before the 2018 election. The statement you issued is unnecessarily partisan, especially given you are supposedly nonpartisan (even though your office is full of pictures of Democratic politicians).
Comment by Not It Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:34 pm
To the update, after that statement does Common Cause think their chances of getting any kind of AVR bill signed just got better or worse?
Comment by Ron Burgundy Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:44 pm
Common Cause - why would you try to prod the bull?!
Comment by Team Sleep Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 3:52 pm
How don’t the Dems get all 71 to Springfield for something like this?
Comment by Grand Avenue Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 4:04 pm
The Bill had flaws, some cured by the alternative Bill proposed. As to the timeline, it will depend on the appropriation of implementation money regardless of any date put into a bill.
Comment by titan Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 4:16 pm
Harsh…but true.
Comment by Winnin' Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 4:20 pm
Does anyone with any intelligence think that Common Cause is non-partisan? If so they must think the IPI is non- partisan.
Comment by Federalist Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 4:49 pm
Hey someone has to try and limit how far Illinois moves to the far left away from the rest of the Country. Anyone look at the election map. Something like 80 percent of voting counties are Red. People who want to vote can take the time to register-if not why do we care
Comment by Sue Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 6:00 pm
==Something like 80 percent of voting counties are Red.==
Counties don’t vote, people do.
==There will be no Coup.==
What would the coup even accomplish? Which Democrat that can win over the caucus wants to whack at the unions and trial lawyers?
Comment by Arsenal Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 9:28 pm
Why is it that every time some do gooder group’s piece of crap bill dies it’s a travesty to humanity? Illinois survived 200 years without automatic voter registration and I think we’ll survive a little while longer.
Comment by Jaded Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 9:53 pm
Let the campaigning for 2018 begin! Heck, their not doing anything else.
Comment by Rufus Tuesday, Nov 29, 16 @ 10:44 pm
I wrote the top officials about this, saying that automatic voter registration goes “too far” in elections reform and voting accessibility. Illinois already has electronic automated “opt in” voter registration at all DMV offices, where you need to go to get either a state ID card or a state driver’s license card. That takes care of most people. Illinois also has online voter registration for those who say no to the above and later change their minds. Illinois is also a Board Member of ERIC (Electronic Registration Information Center) a voluntary group of 21 states so far that share voting registration information to eliminate duplicate registrations and remove obsolete ones from the rolls, as well as identify potential unregistered voters. So the system is already as streamlined as it can be, I think.
Comment by Visitor Wednesday, Nov 30, 16 @ 9:21 am