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* I have to go do some teevee, so monitor the address on our live coverage post and watch/listen on the House’s page or check your local listings.

posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:37 am

Comments

See you on the other side, Rich…

I think I’d like to hear the governor say in his remarks, and pointing to the Senate, that the premise and actual plan that Senate Leaders are working IS the example of what, in the end, will be a budget agreement that all sides need to rally around, including a real call for revenues, an ownership and distaste for the necessary cuts that will have to take place and placing himself… that’s himself… not as a passenger, or even a cheerleader, but as someone that is a partner willing to negate the fallout for allies needed for passage, and a partner to ensure the needs of the state now ate most important.

I’d like to hear that.

How much of these thoughts will be found…

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:46 am
Dear DeGroot and Yaffe…

Figure at least 10 minutes after the Governor leaves the well of the House before you rail on Madigan and de-rail any possible goodwill that any or all actors need to get governing to happen.

Do the state of Illinois a solid, fellas, and give the speech 10 minutes to breath before you start in with the unhelpful junior high silliness.

Try being real political operatives, not flunkies trading off your own credibility.

Thank you.

OW

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:51 am
I predict the speech will be a total disappointment to any hoping for a budget solution this year.

Comment by Joe Biden Was Here Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:54 am
OW wants the chief protangonists to start acting responsibly. Good luck with that.

Comment by Anon Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:55 am
===…the chief protangonists to start acting responsibly. Good luck with that.===

This would be the time to get ahead of the Senate and embrace and almost look as if he, the governor, can deliver.

Now Yaffe and DeGroot will ruin any possible goodwill, I’ll grant you that, but Rauner can’t seem in his remarks negative towards actual bipartisan governing actually occurring…

…

… can he?

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:58 am
OOH Rich is on TeeVee right now.

Comment by Nearly Normal Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:01 pm
“Optimistic”

Oh boy…

Then “challenge-opportunity” leverage.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:04 pm
Campaign rhetoric, packaged as SOTS…

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:05 pm
Listing accomplishments… Talking only executive actions first…

Also dropping Gs

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:06 pm
Laundry list of accomplishments, naming people, recognizin’ hard work… “Fraud/Abuse”… Names millions in savings(?)

Now talks Unions..

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:09 pm
Petitions not written constitutionally does not make them legal.

Where was it that the judges said ONLY the GA can get something on the ballot?

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:12 pm
Yep, that’s right… You heard it…

“Educatin’ our children”

Words fail.

“Educatin’… “

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:13 pm
Dem Gov Candidate most important promise? Bring Gs back to the governor’s office!

Comment by Chicago Cynic Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:14 pm
Just wonderin’… would Rauner hire someone who talked so “homey” when he worked at his previous position ???

Comment by Anon221 Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:15 pm
Blaming the lack of fundin’ schools via the state without a budget submitted by a governor is disingenuous at best…

The dropping of Gs during the Education segment of this address is comically ignorant to the words he’s saying(?)

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:15 pm
Without a budget to weigh and measure the financial priorities of this state… how can Rauner “weigh” programs in criminal justice, and family and children centric agencies?

What is the matrix of measure?

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:19 pm
Gov had a world-class education but wouldn’t know it listening to him dropping g’s

Comment by Nearly Normal Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:22 pm
I’m hearin’ some spinnin’ and talkin’ about everythin’ but the elephant in the room.

Comment by illinoised Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:23 pm
Non-taxpayer funded lane on I-55.

Comment by Nearly Normal Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:23 pm
Lesson to be learned on road privatization????
https://ourfuture.org/20150403/indiana-toll-road-privatizations-highway-to-hell

Comment by Anon221 Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:24 pm
– “Educatin’ our children” –

Chicago-born, Dartmouth and Harvard educated Bruce Rauner is like Sen. Worthington “Curly” Fuller sitting around The Ol’ Cracker Barrel talkin’ huntin’ with Lonesome Rhodes.

Comment by Anonymous Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:25 pm
Ugh. I’m keeping my g’s.

Comment by Anonymous Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:25 pm
Thankin’ Jim Schultz for his “service” to the state? Not sure if being paid $400,000 a year to fluff CEOs constitutes “service”. At least not to the state.

Comment by Henry Francis Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:26 pm
Rauner is 27 minutes in, now talks “budget”

Blaming others for past… 2 years.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:29 pm
Worst Credit Ratin’ in the Nation. Slap that on a bumper sticker.

Comment by Come on Man! Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:30 pm
“Compassionate - Competitive”, still goes “decades”

Starts in on bipartisanship, still has “BossMadigan.Com” up and running…

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:31 pm
>Rauner: “Years of irresponsible borrowing and deficit spending have been devastating to human service organizations.”

“And if you elect me as Governor I will take the arrows and address these issues, unlike the failed current and past Governors.” /s

Comment by Earnest Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:32 pm
“We are failing to be compassionate because we are failing to be competitive”- Rauner 2017 SOTS

And there it is in a nutshell- Rauner’s overreaching philosophy.

Comment by Anon221 Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:32 pm
===
I think I’d like to hear the governor say in his remarks, and pointing to the Senate, that the premise and actual plan that Senate Leaders are working IS the example of what, in the end, will be a budget agreement that all sides need to rally around, including a real call for revenues, an ownership and distaste for the necessary cuts that will have to take place and placing himself… that’s himself… not as a passenger, or even a cheerleader, but as someone that is a partner willing to negate the fallout for allies needed for passage, and a partner to ensure the needs of the state now ate most important.

I’d like to hear that.

How much of these thoughts will be found…===

Thank you Governor Rauner for going off-script to say what YOU said to the Senators and Senate Leaders!

Thank YOU, Governor.

Oswego Willy

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:35 pm
Did I hear a defensive tone regarding Chicago’s violence?

Comment by GetOverIt Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:37 pm
“Now let’s work together to get the job done.”

Still haven’t figured out what this means in the Governor’s world…Speaker’s world too…

Comment by GetOverIt Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:38 pm
Nope - he’s not responsible for any of that budget mess.

Comment by Chicago Cynic Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:38 pm
–ILSenateGOP@ILSenateGOP
Rauner: “Our troopers have already surged to counter the violence that’s spilled over to our expressways.”–

Number of 2016 Chicago shootings: 4,300

Number of those on expressways: 47

Percentage on expressways: 1

I think he’s taking this Gov. 1% stuff too literally.

Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:40 pm
did I miss anything in the first 13 minutes? Because apart from how quickly he shifted from lofty MLK Day rhetoric to Trump inspired Chicago is doom land, he had nothing in the part I heard after minute 13. Oh, except for employers would like to see us make changes, but they are ready to come. so I’ll take that as a we can get them anyway statement. Really, anything in the first 13 minutes? Cause the kumbaya was not inspiring.

Comment by Amalia Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:42 pm
The best way to stop a bullet is with a job….not if the jobs leave the state.

Comment by DocNoyes Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:47 pm
Was there a single new idea put forth there? I didn’t hear one. He could have just sent a tape recorded message.

Comment by Signal and Noise Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:47 pm
Let’s hope the Governor follows his own advice about respecting the views of others and working together to reach agreements.

Comment by Anon Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:51 pm
LOU LANG?!? He’s on my tv now giving the response. not the choice I would have made to do that.

Comment by Amalia Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:53 pm
Dude, really? You acknowledge but took no responsibility:

“We haven’t had a full year budget of some kind in a year-and-a-half– … We have more than $11 billion in unpaid bills, a $130 billion unfunded pension liability, and the worst credit rating in the nation.”

Comment by Handle Bar Mustache Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:53 pm
> “We haven’t had a full year budget of some kind in a year-and-a-half– … We have more than $11 billion in unpaid bills, a $130 billion unfunded pension liability, and the worst credit rating in the nation.”

“An’ ayyye haalped,” as the little girl in the Shake ‘n’ Bake commercials used to say.

Comment by CEA Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:01 pm
===Dude, really? You acknowledge but took no responsibility:

“We haven’t had a full year budget of some kind in a year-and-a-half– … We have more than $11 billion in unpaid bills, a $130 billion unfunded pension liability, and the worst credit rating in the nation.”===

Yeah, don’t blame me, I’m just the messenger. Totally blameless in this situation.

#GovernorGridlock

Comment by PublicServant Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:03 pm
Governor just connected the dots on intersect Illinois. II failed to get 501c3 status as a non profit to be able to even do a public private partnership. The tip was from highlighting Sheila Morgan. Chicago minority supplier development council. Move Odom over to CMS overseeing procurement (suppliers), carve out “sheltered markets” by executive order for minorities and shazam you fulfill 2 criteria for 501c3 status for II, minority orientation AND efficiency. This does many things
1) give the state reliable and timely paid suppliers.
2) give a huge cookie to the black caucus for Dunkin like cooperation
3)allow intersect to operate in a non FOIA environment to offer whatever EDGE agreement they want without public interference.

That’s actually politically and economically brilliant

Look for that to happen this year.
That’s what Rauner is going to throw himself at.

Comment by Clap back Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:08 pm
I found Rauner’s statement ironic in which he referenced quotes by the leaders which centered around compromise and working together and encouraging them to do so going forward but on the other hand I guess it does not apply to him in working with the union to resolve the labor contract.

Comment by Cimry90 Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:08 pm
This speech is being brought to you by the letter “G”. The man is hard to listen to while he is “educatin” us about the problem. Please tell afscme about your current willingness to sit down and negotiate

Comment by golfman-r Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:11 pm
That was some great talk about compromise and working together. So when do the next round of Rauner funded attack ads/emails come out?

Comment by Anonymous Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:25 pm
–”We are failing to be compassionate because we are failing to be competitive”- –

For two years, the governor has chosen to renege on state contracts and refused to engage on a state budget until he gets a personal agenda passed.

That was his choice; he’s not the victim of his choice. But hundreds of thousands are.

At least he admits to being a failure on the compassion front.

Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:28 pm
anyone else surprised BigBrain did not go off script to rip POTUS for his insultin’ comments ..gotta think the IPI/Proft/GOP/Super$tar react machine on the blink

Comment by Annonin' Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:34 pm
“What the large print giveth,
the fine print taketh away”.
John Waits

/s of course!

Comment by WhoKnew Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:36 pm
I had a flu shot but caught stomach flu that is not covered by the shot. Got up to watch Rauner’s SOTS and couldn’t stand it. Back to bed.

Comment by DuPage Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:50 pm
=== So our administration has made education from cradle to career a top priority. ===

Considering Rauner’s non-support of higher ed, he must be talking about a career in fast food.

Comment by Norseman Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 2:21 pm
“3)allow intersect to operate in a non FOIA environment to offer whatever EDGE agreement they want without public interference.”

You do realize don’t you, that the biggest abuser of EDGE for political gain was none other than Pat Quinn, right?

EDGE is not some evil giveaway program cooked up by Rauner. It’s a clunky & underperforming tax credit that has been on the books for close to 20 years. It isn’t even particularly useful when compared to what our neighboring states have.

Give it a rest.

Comment by sulla Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 3:01 pm
Was listening to the Roe Conn show on 720 AM on the way home from work. They had a segment where they had 10 (?)callers guess if 1.4% dropped his “g’s” when a sentence from the SoS address was read by Roe. After the caller guess if the “g’s” were dropped, they played the sentence from the speech. All but 1 caller got it correct.

Comment by Huh? Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 8:49 pm
Job creators are holding out for term limits, but can overlook no budget

Comment by Rabid Thursday, Jan 26, 17 @ 8:19 am