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* I’ll have more on this statewide poll in a bit, but let’s discuss its first question now…

Do you believe Illinois is heading in the right direction or the wrong direction?

• Right 10.60%
• Wrong 75.28%
• Undecided 14.13%

Whew. Those are some serious pitchfork and torch numbers right there, man.

* The Question: What sort of person do you think believes the state is heading in the right direction? Bonus question: What sort of person would be undecided at this point?

posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:29 am

Comments

Heading in the right direction - only one = Bruce Rauner Undecided - only one = Diana Rauner (and she is leaning toward selecting ‘wrong’ direction

Comment by East Central Illinois Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:31 am
Ones who believe that crisis creates leverage and that Rauner’s agenda will benefit the State in the long-term. They are fine with short-medium term pain, even with some casualties.

Comment by JTF Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:33 am
How can you not know!

Comment by Red Rider Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:33 am
For someone to believe the state is heading in the right direction, they would have to believe or have faith in the person(s) who can control the future of the state. Though there’s a lot of blame to go around, the one who is supposed to be the man at the top is Governor Rauner. I suspect those who believe the state is heading in the right direction are very partisan Republicans. As to who would be undecided, I could only imagine it’s someone either who is very open-minded and patient or, more likely, someone who pays no attention to the day-by-day politics and is unaware of the major players and their positions (or in denial about said positions).

Comment by Chrisotpher Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:33 am
It’s possible that a respondent could be a strong Rauner supporter and believe the act of electing Rauner will eventually mean that the state improves and therefore think that it’s going to get worse before it gets better but it’s ultimately on the path to get better. I don’t agree with that sentiment but I can see how someone might think that.

Undecideds are just people who don’t pay much attention to the news.

Comment by The Captain Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:35 am
Right direction? Person (persons) who give loans to vectors and such and make money off the the eventual payments made, with interest… to them.

Undecided? College seniors with a tech job offer in Chicago metro, including a signing bonus, who is also single, no kids, and limited college debt.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:35 am
===What sort of person do you think believes the state is heading in the right direction?===

Lucky Pierre, A guy, Louis Atsaves, sue, blue dog dem, Anonymous, lol.

Comment by 47th Ward Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:36 am
It’s really hard to answer the question. All I can say is that we need to remember that we here at the CapFax are the nerds. We pay attention to everything. So I guess I would say that people that don’t pay close attention may think the state is on the right track or be undecided. But I also know plenty of people who don’t pay attention to anything that would always say ‘wrong track’ no matter the question.

Comment by Ducky LaMoore Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:38 am
Main question: Steve Bannon
Bonus Question: Those who really took to heart that, if you’ve nothing nice to say, it’s best to say nothing at all.

Comment by AlfondoGonz Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:38 am
Right - Bruce Rauner and his immediate family. That’s all.

Undecided - Some cranky senior citizens. Slacker kids.

Comment by Terry Salad Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:38 am
Right direction: Strong Rauner supporters who stubbornly refuse to admit this has not gone at all as planned
Undecided: People who are insulated from the effects of the budget impasse and thus have the luxury of ignoring the news out of Springfield

Comment by Commander Norton Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:38 am
Right direction? Anyone who got a job walking neighborhoods for Madigan & the machine.
Undecided? People that accidentally got the survey who are not engaged in the real issues IL is facing.

Comment by IL-6 voter Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:39 am
I think Rauner is the sort of person who thinks the state is headed in the right direction. To describe more completely, that would be a person who is committed to the Laffer curve to the point of being unable to even acknowledge that actual human beings exist in the real world that exists every day (as opposed to some theoretical future world.) That’s an out-of-touch person who is dismissive of the “short term” pain/suffering/death, both economic and human, that not having a budget for 2 1/2 years causes. And, that could also a person who is cool with lying and telling different stories depending on who they’re talking to on issues ranging from taxes to abortion.

I think the sort of person who is undecided falls into two camps. The first is the person who just cannot bring themselves to believe or admit that they were duped. Admitting you were gullible enough to be tricked is very uncomfortable. The second is the person who is not paying attention.

Comment by Who Else Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:39 am
I took this same poll 8 years ago and voted the same way.

Comment by Blue dog dem Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:39 am
People who live outside of Illinois.

Comment by Rufus Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:42 am
1. ALEC member.
2. Low information voter who’s is a fan of the Village People.

Comment by Keyrock Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:42 am
What JTF said, plus some statistical noise.

Comment by whetstone Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:42 am
I am among the undecided. I simply don’t know what direction we’re going.

Comment by Cheryl44 Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:43 am
“Right Direction” people = have no friends or family members who need social services.
They pay their taxes.
Think they are totally self-sufficient and they expect/get/need nothing from Government. Generally not overly concerned with the details of Government or anything else.
Oversimplify situations.

Of course these folks just haven’t personally experienced any consequences yet.
They won’t start understanding the effects of our condition until roads and bridges collapse, their kids/grandkids schools don’t open or buses don’t run or the football team doesn’t play, their neighbor’s business fails and they put their house up for sale.
Then (maybe) they’ll start asking questions and caring.

As long as the tragic effects of our situation are just 1 or 2 people here or there and not anyone these people know this Governor is going to be able to sweep his record under the rug and these folks will shrug things off and think BVR’s doing a great job.

(And yes, I know Madigan is part of the problem too - but I don’t live in his district so I can’t do anything about that. This Governor has made it clear that unlike all his predecessors he cannot govern effectively with other elected officials so I can and will vote against him.)

Comment by Biscuit Head Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:48 am
In the right direction: People born on third base.

Undecided: People in comas.

Comment by 37B Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:50 am
Right Direction-people who still send Bruce Rauner money

Undecided-people who have just woken up from a coma

Comment by OurMagician Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:52 am
Right direction: I don’t think they’re all pro-Rauner but I definitely think they’re all anti-Madigan.

Undecided: they believe strongly in lower taxes and smaller government, but dislike Rauner’s approach in destroying higher education and human services.

Comment by Earnest Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:52 am
What sort of person do you think believes the state is heading in the right direction?

Bond buyers looking for higher rates of return on their investments than can be provided in more fiscally responsible jurisdictions, Cubs fans who pay attention to nothing else, and Evelyn Sanguinetti who has been provided an employment opportunity that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise.

Bonus question: What sort of person would be undecided at this point?

The few remaining statehouse reporters torn between the heartbreaking destruction of the state they love and record interest in their work they haven’t seen since the final months of the Blagojevich administration.

Comment by AC Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:54 am
Lotto winners

Comment by Grand Avenue Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:54 am
Right Direction: Anyone who shorted the Illinois bond market.

Comment by Flip357 Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:56 am
Koch Bros

Comment by DeseDemDose Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:57 am
The benefactors of disruption and tea party members.

Bonus:
The ignorant.

Comment by Chicago 20 Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:59 am
Right direction: those who don’t read Capitol Fax

Undecided: yeesh….. maybe the deceased?

Comment by Mattman Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:00 pm
Those who believe the state is heading in the right direction are those who want to get their agenda passed by whatever means necessary, and/or to so utterly destroy the state that the only viable alternative is destruction of the unions through bankruptcy of a variety of state entities.

Those who believe the state is headed in the wrong direction believe in collaborative government; where blackmail doesn’t have a place; where in collaboration, you do what is doable, putting the greater interests of Illinois citizens ahead of yourself and your agenda.

Those who are undecided are either in a coma, or should be.

Comment by PublicServant Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:04 pm
==Koch Bros==

But Rauner has failed at everything he’s attempted, the Koch Bros like to win and often do.

Comment by AC Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:04 pm
The 1% ers, their servants, and electronic media that will make a fortune in advertising dollars for the next election. /s

Comment by G'Kar Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:05 pm
The only people who think the state is going in the right direction would be elected democrats and their supporters who resist any changes to state government or our business environment.

Governor Rauner clearly does not think the state is going in the right direction because he proposed a Turnaround Agenda, that has been largely ignored.

Democrats have no competing agenda, so they must like the direction we are headed currently.

They could change that perception by using their huge majorities in the legislature to pass popular legislation for economic development and daring the Governor to veto the legislation.

The fact they have not proves they like the direction Illinois is headed. Their actions confirm this.

Comment by Lucky Pierre Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:11 pm
The state is headed in the right direction. Unemployment is decreasing, jobs are up to record levels and Rauner is holding off Madigan from completely caving to the public unions.

Comment by Ron Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:15 pm
The direction we are heading was a course set by the long serving leaders in Springfield such as MJM. The Governor has not been effective in implementing any of his agenda, so for all the snark from the Dem here this is as much your problem as it is Rauners.

Comment by Lech W Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:16 pm
Right Direction - No One
Undecided - People who are not paying attention

Who in there right mind can look at any republican and blame what’s going on now with our fiscal problems on them? Chicago hasn’t had meaningful republican representation in over a hundred years and look at the problems they have. The state has followed suit for the past 30 years and is now experiencing similar problems. Moreover, we have Michigan and the city of Detroit not too far away and we can see what democratic party elected officials can do to a state in the long run. How- just how delusional and twisted does your logic have to be to justify not putting 100% of the blame on democrats here? And the answer to the issue is belt tightening. We are at the limit of taxation of the populace and unless we are going to tax cars by the mile and air by the breath, we’re running out of options. You have to give republicans control of the state and city at all levels (which will never happen - I know) and let them be the bad guys for a while so they can cut social services, privatize public jobs, reign in school districts and generally reduce the scope and cost of governance….

Comment by Seventhson74 Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:25 pm
+++- 47th Ward - Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 11:36 am:

===What sort of person do you think believes the state is heading in the right direction?===

Lucky Pierre, A guy, Louis Atsaves, sue, blue dog dem, Anonymous, lol.+++

I can assure you I don’t think we’re headed in the right direction, nor am I undecided about it.

I suggest the Speaker might think we’re headed in the right direction, but his caucus is undecided.

Comment by A guy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:29 pm
===Chicago hasn’t had meaningful republican representation in over a hundred years… ===

… or since 1980, but don’t let any facts interrupt your yelling at the clouds from the porch hyperbole…

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:33 pm
Trick question. The state has always been headed in the wrong direction.

Comment by City Zen Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:35 pm
===…we can see what democratic party elected officials can do to a state in the long run…===

You forgetting Thompson, Edgar, Ryan, or Speakers Ryan and Daniels, President Phillip too?

Take a breath, learn some facts.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:35 pm
===You have to give republicans control of the state…===

See 1995-1997…

(Sigh)

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:36 pm
47th ward- does supporting a Turnaround Agenda mean you like the direction the state is headed?

Of course not, that is why the Governor want to turnaround the direction we are headed. Dems are resisting they like it as is

Skyrocketing property taxes, record unfunded pension debt, manufacturing leaving the state, record out migration, lowest faith in state government in America. That is what Dems are defending, they have no plans to reverse any of these.

Dems have zero messaging. They are not advocating turning around anything , they like the direction we are headed.

Comment by Lucky Pierre Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:39 pm
Those interested in collaborative government should observe the Illinois House led by Speaker Madigan and then do the exact opposite.

They do what is doable, which is nothing and then drop a budget on everyone’s desk and expect it to pass

Comment by Lucky Pierre Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:43 pm
Lucky:

You’re a one trick pony. I’ll give you $100 if you can bring yourself to admit that the Governor has any sort of culpability for the current situation.

I know my money is safe.

Comment by Demoralized Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:47 pm
1995-97??? LOL Let’s go back 20 years to do a comparison. You know sonny, back in my day…..

Comment by Anonymous Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:53 pm
Apparently Ron thinks we’re headed in the right direction. So, my answer is people who think like Ron.

Comment by Demoralized Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:53 pm
Please pick a name or don’t address my comments.

Thank you.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 12:59 pm
Right: People who want to see the world burn

Undecided: People who just started focusing on politics during the last presidential cycle and are slowly starting to realize not all Republicans are evil and not all Democrats are genuine.

Comment by Clark Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:05 pm
===Why, because some fictitious names gives a person credibility on this site?===

No.

So I can keep track who is making what argument.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:08 pm
Lucky & Ron: Don’t make me laugh.

Comment by Anonymous Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:13 pm
==See 1995-1997…==

Hey Macarena!

Comment by City Zen Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:25 pm
“… or since 1980, but don’t let any facts interrupt your yelling at the clouds from the porch hyperbole…” -Jayne Byrne was mayor and most alderman were democrats, how was Chicago Republican in 1980?

-You forgetting Thompson, Edgar, Ryan, or Speakers Ryan and Daniels, President Phillip too?

A governor with a democratic controlled house is a divided government and produces compromises that will ensure that both get some of what they want. Each of these governors presided over democratic controlled state houses which leads me to this

“-Take a breath, learn some facts.-
*Sigh*
Jim Edgar did in fact have a republican controlled house from 1995-1997. You know what they did? They got Term Limits on the ballot only to get the democratic appointed judiciary to take it off the ballot before we could vote on it. And the Lawyer who did it was Michael Kasper, a longtime associate of House Speaker Mike Madigan.

Comment by Seventhson74 Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:26 pm
I’ve heard Republicans tell me that they think we are going in the right direction on the basis that only when there is complete destruction can things be fixed.

That seems to be sort of inhumane to me, but hey, we are talking about IL Republicans.

Comment by Gooner Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:33 pm
===Chicago hasn’t had meaningful republican representation in over a hundred years===

In the General Assembly, Republicans, Chicago Republicans sat in the House. So… there’s that.

===They got Term Limits on the ballot only to get the democratic appointed judiciary to take it off the ballot before we could vote on it.===

So you are saying the Illinois judiciary is corrupt, so corrupt that the rule of law was ignored?

Hmm.

===A governor with a democratic controlled house is a divided government and produces compromises that will ensure that both get some of what they want.===

… and yet, Rauner with the same parameters can’t get anything done, only asking Dems to vote to destroy labor by ending both collective bargaining and prevailing wage, and requiring Dems to propose all cuts, sponsor the tax increase to pay for a budget, so Rauner can… destroy labor, blame all the cuts and taxes on Dems, so Rauner will pay social services what they’re owed and save higher education.

Where is the compromise?

Take a breath. Nap.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:35 pm
To believe that the state is going in the right direction you should believe three things. 1. Public unions should be eliminated, 2. State funded social welfare programs on balance do more harm than good. They do this by supporting dysfunctional families and rewarding bad behavior. 3. State subsidies for higher education lead people into getting degrees that are not useful. People who pay their own way focus on getting the best bang for their buck.

Comment by Last Bull Moose Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:40 pm
I continue to be amazed at the ongoing debate between the folks who can tell the difference between bad and worse, and those who seem willfully unable to do so. The decades of financial mismanagement by both parties were a slow smoldering fire destroying our state. The ongoing impasse has been a rapidly growing wildfire that’s destroying our state at an unprecedented pace.

Comment by AC Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:44 pm
This poll lines up pretty well with my own reality. It’s anecdotal, but my law enforcement unit has 10 people in it. The last election, 7 out of the 10 (me included) voted for Rauner. Now, there are only 2 out of the 10 that are going to vote for Gov Beernuts in 2018 (the two are extreme partisans who think Trump is doing a great job). When 80% of a law enforcement unit is voting against the Republican candidate, you’ve got problems.

Comment by Ratso Rizzo Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:45 pm
1) Anarchist
Survivalist
Rauner’s Senior Staff
John Kass

2) Just didn’t understand the question, but afraid to admit it.

Comment by Juvenal Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 1:48 pm
1. Public unions should be eliminated

This is a must.

Comment by Ron Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 2:13 pm
Public unions serve virtually no purpose other than over tax private workforce citizenry.

Comment by Ron Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 2:14 pm
Just Keep Paying Me Ron.

Comment by Shake Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 2:34 pm
Right direction: the uninformed and the unscrupulous
Undecided: the uninterested and the unaffected

Comment by X-prof Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 2:51 pm
Right direction: A retired public union worker. Television and radio stations awaiting big ad revenue.

Comment by lake county democrat Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 2:54 pm
###- Ron - Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 2:14 pm:
Public unions serve virtually no purpose other than over tax private workforce citizenry. ###

Ya know, you’re right Ron. I too am sick and tired of paying for safe roads, strong bridges, schools to educate our young citizens, police, fire protection, sewage/sanitation, public transit, building codes/inspectors, state troopers, child investigative services, auditors to oversee funds, libraries/librarians to promote literacy and knowledge-sharing, clean drinking water, and on and on. But, puhleeeze, don’t get me started on my tax dollars going to support higher education, which trains workers, fuels job growth, and which in myriad ways creates and enhances a world worth “private citizenry” living in. Yeah, and while we’re at it, let’s dump these public unions, made up entirely of fellow taxpayers, who contribute to our society — making it livable — and better (even in these troubled times) than most places in the entire world. Yessir, that’ll show ‘em! Geez.

Comment by TaxpayingFool Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 3:17 pm
Corrupt is your word regarding the judiciary OW

Do you have a the Illinois judiciary which is dominated by Democrats is non partisan?

If so why do not they run as democrats or republicans.

Holding judges up on a pedestal is a bit much. They are political like the everyone else in politics

Comment by Lucky Pierre Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 3:45 pm
===Corrupt is your word regarding the judiciary===

No, it was Bruce Rauner’s and I can show you where, lol

===Holding judges up on a pedestal is a bit much. They are political like the everyone else in politics===

Hmm, now who’s questions the judge’s integrity?

===have a the Illinois judiciary which is dominated by Democrats is non partisan?

If so why do not they run as democrats or republicans.===

So hiding the political affiliations would help?

Suggest it. If you claim a D makes a judge corrupt, that’s on you, and Bruce Rauner

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 3:51 pm
No you are making the claim that judges are pure as wind driven snow and view the world blindfolded like lady liberty holding up a scale. That is a great idea but not very close to reality.

I believe judges are very frequently political and vie the law through their political lens.

Do you honestly disagree or are you just arguing to argue

Why are the many rulings against Trump coming from the most liberal 9th circuit? You honestly think ideology has nothing to do with it?

Comment by Lucky Pierre Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 4:09 pm
===No you are making the claim that judges are pure as wind driven snow and view the world blindfolded like lady liberty holding up a scale. That is a great idea but not very close to reality.===

If you know if a corrupt judge, tell the county’s state’s attorney or the FBI. If you don’t, then you have nothing, yet again. Insinuating that judges are corrupt based on nothing, that’s a Raunerite thing.

===I believe judges are very frequently political and vie the law through their political lens.

Do you honestly disagree or are you just arguing to argue===

… and yet, legal rationale for decisions are still needed.

Are you saying that legal decisions aren’t based on the law? That’s the only way you can make your point.

===Why are the many rulings against Trump coming from the most liberal 9th circuit? You honestly think ideology has nothing to do with it?===

Let’s keep this to Illinois… Focus. You can do it.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 4:13 pm
==I believe judges are very frequently political and vie the law through their political lens.==

Do you have any evidence of this other than your “belief?” Or is this just more whining a victimhood from you?

Comment by Demoralized Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 4:46 pm
RD: Rauner’s inner circle and IT consultants

U: A childless individual who works from home with no neighbors or extended family in IL

Comment by Jocko Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 5:20 pm
“Public unions should be eliminated

This is a must.”

Institutional genocide. Killing off public unions. Very nice people, these folks.

But seriously, this is a big reason why there’s so much carnage right now. I hope people–and especially people in unions–fully understand this.

Now to the post:

Bruce Rauner is approving of this. He said so. He’s never been happier in his life.

Who are undecided? Possibly some who aren’t hurting very badly and don’t follow politics. There are many people who are doing just fine in Illinois.

Comment by Grandson of Man Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 6:00 pm
Those who believe the governor deserves an “A.”

So, Bruce Rauner, I guess.

Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 6:02 pm
Spending on judicial elections has soared in recent decades, including election spending by organizations that don’t coordinate with a candidate or party. In 2014, trial lawyers opposed to the retention of Illinois Supreme Court Justice Lloyd Karmeier spent roughly $2 million to defeat him. The Republican State Leadership Committee, a national political committee supporting candidates for state office, spent nearly $1 million to help Karmeier, who narrowly won retention. The RSLC received large donations from Altria, the parent company of Philip Morris USA.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-judicial-campaign-contributions-perspec-1002-20151001-story.html

OW are you really saying that democratic judges don’t interpret the law in a way that is favorable to democrats and vice versa?

Why would partisan groups contribute so heavily to election of their favored judges?

Corrupt is your word , I said judges were frequently political.

Comment by Lucky Pierre Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 6:46 pm
===OW are you really saying that democratic judges don’t interpret the law in a way that is favorable to democrats and vice versa?===

Good try.

Rauner said Illinois judges are corrupt.

Stick to what’s being discussed, not watching like it to be.

You may not like the rulings, but the rule of law is being followed.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 6:50 pm
Rauner…

===”I don’t trust the Supreme Court to be rational in their decisions,” Rauner told the Daily Herald. “I think they’re activist judges who want to be legislators.”

Asked by the newspaper if he believes the state’s high court is part of a “corrupt” system, Rauner said: “Yes, correct. Yes. Yes. We have a system where we elect our judges, and the trial lawyers who argue cases in front of those judges give campaign cash to those judges. It’s a corrupt system.”===

So the judges and the judiciary is indeed… corrupt… according to Bruce Rauner.

So, there’s that..,

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 6:54 pm
most people would probably agree that special interest groups donating 2 million for judicial elections would fit the definition of a corrupt system.

Does that sound like an independent judiciary? Only in the Orwellian sense

Comment by Lucky Pierre Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 7:31 pm
===most people would probably agree that special interest groups donating 2 million for judicial elections would fit the definition of a corrupt system.===

Even the Republican Illinois justices are corrupt.

Hmm. That’s a lot of corruption. It’s like Rauner says the judge that ruled in his favor on one thing, corrupt when the same judge rules against Rauner?

Is that how it goes?

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 26, 17 @ 7:36 pm
Question one- Admissions officers at surrounding state universities that are experiencing banner years because of all the students from Illinois who are leaving the state.
Question two-People who can’t quite accept that Bruce only cares about himself and his pals.

Comment by AnnieB Thursday, Apr 27, 17 @ 6:25 am
-Killing off Public Unions is a must-
It always good to recognize the reality of life in Illinois, as such, we live in a corrupt democrat machine state. If we get rid of public unions, every government job becomes a gift from the elected official that oversees that public service. I would get rid of the unions too, but beware of the re-entrenchment that would create.

Comment by Seventhson74 Thursday, Apr 27, 17 @ 7:11 am
– Public unions should be eliminated. this is a must.–

Probably sounds better in the original German. independent unions, collective bargaining and strikes banned May 1933.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Apr 27, 17 @ 7:39 am