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* Gov. Rauner met with the Northwest Herald editorial board yesterday. Among other topics, he told board members what will happen now that he’s issued an amendatory veto of SB1. This Rauner comment can be found at the 27-minute mark…

There are really three scenarios. My amendatory veto could be upheld. Which is, hopefully that’s what’s done. They’ve done it. They’ve upheld my amendatory veto on many bills. For example, automatic voter registration. I amendatory veto, they came back, that’s getting done. And they’ve done it on others, public safety ones and others. So this is very doable. Some people have said, ‘Well, he AV’d it so it’s dead, it’s over.’ No. They’ve done it repeatedly. They’ve upheld my amendatory veto in the past. So this is very doable.

OK, first of all, as we just discussed on Tuesday, Gov. Rauer did not issue an AV on the AVR bill. He straight-up vetoed that bill and it died when the General Assembly could not override him. He issued a statement along with his veto saying what he could support, but it was not an amendatory veto. The General Assembly took much of what he wanted and put it in a new bill which he is apparently going to sign.

* An explanation from the governor’s press office…

The governor was making a conceptual point that in the past our veto messages have been adopted by the legislature through another vehicle and passed into law. For instance, after we proposed an outright veto of automatic voter registration legislation and a counter proposal, the lead negotiator, Andy Manar, ultimately turned to compromise towards a unanimous vote.

Ultimately, the governor’s point is that the legislature has several options before them, one of which is to adopt his AV. Otherwise, we stand ready and waiting if Democrats want to come to the table and negotiate in good faith.

OK, but if you watch the video, the governor told the editorial board that there are three scenarios, and accepting his AV was the first such scenario. Rauner then accurately noted the second scenario is an override of SB1. And the third scenario, the governor himself said, is that the Democrats work on a new, bipartisan proposal and get it to his desk.

The fact is the General Assembly has never once accepted any of the governor’s amendatory vetoes.

* From the Senate Democrats…

Looks like three AVs this session. SB 1 — pending. SB 1839 — dead. HB 1811 — overridden. It looks like 32 AVs last session (two year span). Only 2 became law, both by override. HB 1 — that was the opioid bill. SB 440 — Chicago pensions.

So, 35 amendatory vetoes issued so far and not a single one was accepted.

posted by Rich Miller
Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 9:42 am

Comments

Rich,
The first assumption we all make is that anyone elected to the Governors office would have some knowledge or background of the process (or at least have staff that does) …. several suggest he lies…. but is it a lie if you don’t have a clue what you are talking about?

Comment by JAH Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 9:48 am
I wish Rauner (and Trumps) nose would grow an inch longer every time they lied.

Comment by Joe M Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 9:49 am
Rewriting history as it happens. Just getting more Trump-like everyday.

Comment by West Side the Best Side Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 9:50 am
But officials from the boy scouts and the president of Mexico called Rauner and told him it was the best AV ever.

Comment by Dance Band on the Titanic Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 9:52 am
Joe M- But it’s the “truth” in Rauner World. We have all just lost “focus”

Comment by Anon221 Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 9:52 am
I love “the governor was making a conceptual point”. Is that code for the governor lied or the governor has no clue how this governin’ process works?

Comment by Flynn's mom Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 9:58 am
Can we assume every time Rauner demonstrates ignorance about his job that he’s making a “conceptual point,” whatever that is?

Comment by wordslinger Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 9:59 am
Wondering why no one has yet published an ad juxtaposing Rauner’s lies with factual evidence to the contrary.

Sort of a claim/rebuttal montage. Just a thought.

Comment by Cranky in Kankakee Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:05 am
Conceptual point=Alternative fact.

Comment by My New Handle Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:07 am
“[Rep. Will] Davis, however, told me the 15-day clock doesn’t start until the Senate reconvenes, and there’s no set date when that might occur.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/opinion/ct-sta-slowik-school-funding-st-0804-20170803-story.html

It looks like Rauner is not the only one who does not know the Illinois Constitution.

Comment by winners and losers Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:10 am
bruce almighty’s immaculate conception

Comment by Rabid Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:13 am
winners and losers, huh?

The clock in the house doesn’t start until the Senate takes action on the AV. So Rep. Davis is correct.

Comment by Juice Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:18 am
===Wondering why no one has yet published an ad juxtaposing Rauner’s lies with factual evidence to the contrary.===

That could take until the 2026 election.

Comment by Cubs in '16 Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:20 am
If Rauner is issuing conceptual AVs then a conceptual override in the GA should suffice…

Comment by Cubs in '16 Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:22 am
Rauner said that he was concerned about messaging. He didn’t say he was concerned about truthful or accurate messaging.

Comment by Norseman Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:26 am
The clock has already started in the Senate. AV read into the record on August 1st. Must be acted upon by August 16th. Upon Senate action, the House may or may not receive the motion. If it passes the Senate, the House reads into the record, beginning their 15 day clock.

Comment by 360 Degree TurnAround Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:28 am
I have to wonder again…I don’t think this AV was really thought through by the governor or his staff. I think this is over their head. I don’t think they realize that there are former ISBE staffers, many education experts, that will call their bluff. I don’t think they reach out for help, I don’t think they have the experts on this.

Comment by 360 Degree TurnAround Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:31 am
Just add it to the list of lies. No one cares he says it the media goes duh okay.
Just like he’s not involved in politics. Wait until those who voted for the budget or the override of SB1 see how uninvolved he is in. politics.

Comment by DuPage Bard Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:31 am
The path we’re on because of Rauner is that SB 1 and funding reform dies. Negotiations will begin on a band aid to keep schools open. True school funding reform becomes another victim of Rauner crusade to make things over in his own image.

Comment by Norseman Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:32 am
“[Rep. Will] Davis, however, told me the 15-day clock doesn’t start until the Senate reconvenes, and there’s no set date when that might occur.”

It is an imprecise sentence. As it reads it may say the 15-day clock in the Senate does not start until the Senate RECONVENES.

It could mean that Davis actually said that the 15-day limit in the House does not begin until the Senate actually VOTES.

Comment by winners and losers Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:33 am
I think the Governor should have a town hall meeting on education funding to call for support of his AV. No more editorial boards, talk with the people man.

Comment by 360 Degree TurnAround Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:33 am
They may be lies, but they sound much more pleasant after they run them thru the “Word Salad”!
/s

Comment by WhoKnew Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 10:38 am
Or: “I’m an idea man. Managing the process is your problem.”

Comment by walker Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 11:22 am
To me, this shows the difference between his new and old staff. The new staff is trying to justify his mistake. The old staff would have glossed over the mistake and used it as a reason to attack Madigan and the Democrats. If they don’t get there “messaging” (i.e. propaganda) focused better, he is going to get killed in the general election.

Comment by Pelonski Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 12:21 pm
“Remember…it’s not a lie if you believe it”

Comment by George Costanza Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 12:30 pm
Telling the truth is apparently to much trouble for Rauner & Trump.

Comment by Mama Friday, Aug 4, 17 @ 2:10 pm