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Rauner says “many superintendents and teachers” support his AV, but won’t name names

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* Statehouse reporter Dave Dahl pointed out to Gov. Rauner today during a State Fair event that school superintendents “are pretty well organized” in favor of overriding Rauner’s veto of SB1. Why didn’t the governor organize superintendents who were in favor of his idea? The governor’s response…

Well, many of them, are, um, supporting us. Many superintendents and teachers, I have teachers here at the fair coming up to me and say, ‘Governor, thank you for your amendatory veto. Thanks for what you’re recommending.’ You know, Speaker Madigan didn’t send me the bill for two months because he wanted to organize opposition and he didn’t want the real truth known. Now the numbers are out, the support of the SB1 originated back when the truth wasn’t known. Now that the numbers are out, more and more folks are coming to support us. […]

We certainly have a lot of support around the state.

And yet, the governor has still not held a single press conference with a group of educators who support his changes. Maybe he could’ve asked one of those teachers who came up to him at the fairgrounds to talk to reporters?

* Instead, we’re seeing lots of stories like this one…

Superintendent of Schools John Asplund offered other points of consideration. He said the governor’s numbers make no allowances for inflation and there are concerns about the future of pension funding.

“Pretending there is access to money we cant have and there will be no inflation is scary, but the third thing is more scary,” Asplund said. “There will be no protection against pension cost shift. Eight percent of Teachers’ Retirement Funding would have to be born by districts. Our $23.8 million salary budget, times 8 percent, is a little more than 1.9 million.

“The governor’s proposal appears to be better, but if you dig into the numbers there is concern.”

posted by Rich Miller
Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:28 pm

Comments

The great number of lurkers are always in agreement with the Governor.

Comment by ArchPundit Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:32 pm
Many businesses… many democrats… many supers and teachers…. crickets. Please stop lying Bruce.

Comment by Anonymous Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:33 pm
Rauner would have been a widely admired Hollywood left-winger during the McCarthy Era — he never names names.

Comment by Roman Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:36 pm
I hate to say it because it sounds … well, pretty radical.

But: Rauner is a liar.

Comment by Macbeth Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:36 pm
I know how Rauner feels when asked about educ supporters. I have hundreds pushing for me to get a Nobel in Lit, but they are a little shy.

Willy and I also have the same issue with all the millionaires supporting his campaign for Gov.

We feel your pain Bruce.

Comment by Norseman Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:37 pm
Rauner’s Mad Libs strike again. Are your secret supporters so afraid of Madigan that they have to be in the witness protection program? Fail… just a big, big fail.

Comment by Anon221 Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:37 pm
===And yet, the governor has still not held a single press conference with a group of educators who support his changes. Maybe he could’ve asked one of those teachers who came up to him at the fairgrounds to talk to reporters?===

Here’s why this is perfect to the moment.

Rauner has put legislators on stairs, behind him, as he stood behind a podium and microphones on occasion.

These legislators gave him credibility. Rauner knows that.

So, what does Rauner do, when faced with questions of “support”?

“GA Democrats tell me all the time, I’m with you”

No Dem legislators on straits, behind him.

Same with teachers, unions, mayors…

It’s always people, phantom people, that support, “large support”…

But I only see those Raunerite controlled legislators on those stairs, behind him, with microphones and a podium.

It’s a large phony as a leader can be, a leader saying “look behind me” and no one is following.

Rauner has no clothes, but the costumes he wears to pretend his purposeful misspeaks are true.

Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:38 pm
He does not hesitate to tell ridiculous, self-serving lies on a regular basis.

It’s automatic and obvious.

Could a reporter, just once, ask “did that really happen?”

Do that whole “who, what, when, where” thing?

Reporters must know that he’s lying. You’re not supposed to report what you know to be lies without at least challenging them.

Comment by wordslinger Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:41 pm
Kudos to OW. My thoughts also.

Comment by Boat captain Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:41 pm
If he has so many supporters on his AV, you know, he should put all their names up on a marquis sign.

Comment by Baloneymous Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:43 pm
Look guys, Rauner has support from many sides

Comment by MissingG Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:43 pm
5-6, give or take = “many.”

Comment by Deft Wing Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:44 pm
===Willy and I also have the same issue with all the millionaires supporting his campaign for Gov.===

So, between us.. - Norseman -…

We… don’t have those dozens and dozens of millionaires?

(Hat tip to - Boat Captain -)

To the post, further,

In 3 plus years, how many times has Rauner been unable to “find” one… supporter… during these questionings?

How many times has Rauner followed up?

What has been the ratio?

Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:46 pm
Many people are saying that Rauner loves citing anonymous sources.

Trump too.

Strange coincidence I’m sure.

Comment by 47th Ward Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:53 pm
“Madigan held the bill for 2 months”, he got a pass on that again.

Comment by nadia Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:54 pm
He has more imaginary friends and supporters than Mr Rogers

Comment by DuPage Saint Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:00 pm
I ask you Governor Rauner….

https://youtu.be/fqQD4dzVkwk

Comment by Honeybadger Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:04 pm
Please please someone needs to go all in and ask him, “Now Governor, would these supporters happen to all be, oh about 6′3″ tall and also all named Harvey.”

Comment by RD55 Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:04 pm
- nadia - Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 3:54 pm:

“Madigan held the bill for 2 months”, he got a pass on that again.

Pretty sure Madigan did not hold the bill for 2 months.

Comment by Honeybadger Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:05 pm
If Rauner was telling the truth you would have heard from these superintendents and teachers after Rauner issued his av.

Comment by Real Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:18 pm
-OW-, you forgot to add all.those businesses ready to move here and generate all the revenue the State needs to balance the budget.

Comment by RNUG Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:23 pm
“Now Governor, would these supporters happen to all be, oh about 6′3″ tall and also all named Harvey.”

I’m sorry, but pooka’s have morals and would not be party to such shenagans by 1.4%.

Comment by Huh? Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:23 pm
Has anyone seen any teachers come up to the Governor today at the Fair and say, “Governor, thank you for your amendatory veto. Thanks for what you are recommending”?

Comment by GA Watcher Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:25 pm
===you forgot to add all.those businesses ready to move here and generate all the revenue the State needs to balance the budget.===

Sorry - RNUG - thanks for pointing that out.

There were so many phony supporters, I should have kept better track. Good catch by you.

Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:25 pm
Seems like Governor Rauner has a friend named Jim too.

Comment by tbf Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:29 pm
What school district is Lincolnshire in?
Sure they are on board.

Comment by Mungah Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:36 pm
Bruce, we’re tired of the same old story….

Comment by Anonymous Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:39 pm
Maybe he is trying to achieve a Mark Twain prize?

Comment by Groundhog Day Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:42 pm
Words. (Lies)
W ords (lies)
Words (lies)

And theres a monster in the cookie jar who supports it, too.

Comment by Langhorne Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:49 pm
Not speaking about superintendents, but the sad truth is that some people I have talked to hear those magic words “Chicago bailout” and say they think the governor is standing up for them.
Explain that many downstate districts eventually would become collateral damage and the light bulb goes on for some. For others, the explanation takes too long.

Comment by Decaf Coffee Party Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 4:58 pm
I am a teacher and know many teachers who do support Rauner on his veto (me not being one of them) due to the Chi bailout messaging.

Comment by Diverdown Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 5:11 pm
Honeybadger @4:04 — Thanks for that YouTube link, which seems so appropriate in these days. Proud to say that Mr. Welch, the lawyer standing up to McCarthy, is an alum of my alma mater Grinnell College.

Comment by Flapdoodle Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 5:13 pm
Rather than bother asking for clarification, I would simply ask that reporters snort in unison.

https://goo.gl/2tcMds

Comment by Jocko Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 5:31 pm
Not 1 supporter from superintendents has stepped forward. Bruce has not paraded anyone up on stage for a press conference.

If support existed you know he would. Bupkis.

Pants on fire.

Comment by JS Mill Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 5:43 pm
=Could a reporter, just once, ask “did that really happen?”=

I think Amanda Vinicky did that somewhat diplomatically last night when he spun his yarn on Madigan’s supposed Drury comment. I don’t think Rauner was prepared for it and had a deer in the headlights look to him.

Comment by Pundent Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 5:46 pm
Everyone needs to play the game back. When Rauner claims many support him, tell him that the vast majority do not. Then provide no support for that statement, just keep doubling down on it.

Comment by thechampaignlife Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 5:54 pm
Not sure who all those superintendents and teachers are at the state fair that spoke to Rauner. Everyone I know is either starting school or preparing for the start of school.

Comment by Barrington Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 6:54 pm
== I am a teacher and know many teachers who do support Rauner on his veto (me not being one of them) due to the Chi bailout messaging. ==

Do they also support Rauner’s attempted destruction of IFT and their pensions?

Comment by RNUG Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 7:07 pm
@RNUG for the win.

Comment by JS Mill Tuesday, Aug 15, 17 @ 9:02 pm
Jim. Their name is Jim

Comment by Generic Drone Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 7:19 am
More accurate is that perhaps some school folk are looking at the numbers and not as supportive of SB1 and might want some compromise, but can’t believe any school officials would publicly support the AV- it is full of pitfalls for schools. If there are only two choices: SB1 or the AV, the choice would be 100% SB1 without question.

Comment by Elliott Ness Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 7:24 am
===…but can’t believe any school officials would publicly support the AV- it is full of pitfalls for schools===

You should believe it. Rich had a whole Post here about it…

http://bit.ly/2weNJiQ

You’re welcome.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 7:40 am
- Elliott Ness -

My apologies. I need more coffee

You are correct, the link I provide explains.

Again, apologies, OW

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 7:44 am