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Rep. Steve Andersson, R-Geneva, was a leader in the GOP faction that supported the budget, but says that he does not support Senate Bill 1 and won’t vote to override the governor.
Neither will Rep. Bob Pritchard, R-Sycamore.
“I’ve based my career on looking at the facts, judging policies based on how it affects citizens in my district and across the state. That’s why I ended up voting for the budget. That’s why I’ll continue to evaluate every piece of legislation, including SB1. My decisions it that we’ve skewed SB1 from what will help every student, and that we need to come up with a follow-up bill that will right those deviations,” Pritchard said at a City Club of Chicago panel Tuesday.
Rather than making a botched attempt at an override, it’s expected that Democrats will go another route Wednesday in the House—a move that will keep their original bill intact: They will take up a separate piece of legislation, with language identical to what Rauner pitched in his amendatory veto.
Though there’s little chance it will pass, that’s the point—it’s a symbolic move, designed by Democrats to show that Rauner’s plan lacks support.
That way, if enough Republicans change their mind as pressure builds, Senate Bill 1 is still in place for an override.
Pritchard is right.
* Finke…
The Illinois House will not vote Wednesday on overriding Gov. Bruce Rauner’s amendatory veto of a school funding reform bill, the House sponsor said Tuesday.
Instead, Rep. Will Davis, D-Homewood, said the chamber will take up a separate bill that contains all of the changes Rauner made to Senate Bill 1, the school funding reform bill.
“Right now, (Wednesday’s) focus is just on the amendatory changes the governor put toward SB 1 and figuring out how advocates feel about that,” Davis said. […]
“Madigan wants more pressure,” Pritchard said. “There are some Democrats that think pressure can be exerted on four Republicans to vote for the override. They want to stretch this out as long as they can and let school districts holler to their representatives and see what happens.” […]
“It’s been characterized so effectively as a bailout for Chicago that my citizens certainly get it and they’re furious,” Pritchard said. “It’s going to be hard for somebody to necessarily break for Chicago. Breaking for the state of Illinois and our universities and our health care providers and our human service providers is a different issue.”
posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 9:34 am
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Pritchard is right. The votes aren’t there. Some have smugly implied and even said the votes were there. They were barely there on original passage. They aren’t there now. And they won’t be.
Cute procedure aside. They’ve got to strike a deal.
Comment by A guy Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 9:40 am
Does this manuever not also give a bit of cover to Dems in somewhat conservative districts,ala Phelps and Costello?
Comment by Blue dog dem Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 9:45 am
There was a 1 in 4 chance the override would’ve worked.
This is actually helping Rauner. Rauner doesn’t want his AV to be the reason the Bill dies.
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 9:48 am
They held the bill for months now the Dems are playing games with the override. They do not care about good governance, they care about power. Just a fact.
Comment by NeverPoliticallyCorrect Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 9:51 am
Color me shocked.
This bill got 60 votes in the House when it passed - 59 Democrats. And it didn’t get better or easier as it sat for 60 days via Cullerton’s procedural scam. Getting all 67 Democrats to vote to override even before the AV was scored was darn near impossible- and Madigan knew this all the while and yet still played games through today.
Unless a true compromise occurs (that means the Gov gets a win!!) any school crisis to follow will be squarely on the Democrats.
Comment by Deft Wing Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 9:52 am
===Cute procedure aside. They’ve got to strike a deal.===
Agree. But when have Rauner and Madigan struck a deal on anything substantive?
Comment by Robert the Bruce Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 9:52 am
===They held the bill for months now the Dems are playing games with the override. They do not care about good governance, they care about power. Just a fact.===
Keep up, there isn’t 71 for override or acceptance.
This is doing everyone a favor.
Understand or don’t understand, up to you.
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 9:54 am
Willy - then perhaps MJM should not have called a dog-and-pony show session day for today? Just a thought.
School started today in my home area. Today. Not next week. Not after Labor Day. Today. This needs to get worked out. Like now.
Comment by Curl of the Burl Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 9:57 am
- Curl of the Burl -
With respect,
It passed with 60.
===School started today in my home area. Today. Not next week. Not after Labor Day. Today. This needs to get worked out. Like now.===
Show me 71.
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 9:59 am
“It’s going to be hard for somebody to necessarily break for Chicago. Breaking for the state of Illinois and our universities and our health care providers and our human service providers is a different issue.”
See the self-centeredness on display? It’s only about the rest of the state, or the individual district, not about including Chicago, the economic and tax revenue engine of the state.
Lots of Chicagoans supported and voted for a budget and revenue to the benefit of the entire state. How about some reciprocation?
Comment by Grandson of Man Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:03 am
===“It’s been characterized so effectively as a bailout for Chicago that my citizens certainly get it and they’re furious,” Pritchard said. “It’s going to be hard for somebody to necessarily break for Chicago.===
That Rauner messaging, creating a crisis…
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:05 am
Held the bill for two months…
Rauner didn’t amend the parts that he didn’t like, he literally rewrote the bill. He added TIF and PTELL language that could be devastating to the rest of the districts in his veto message. Besides the fact that he isn’t allowed to rewrite legislation in that manner, while he continually crowed he would veto it, behind the scenes he demanded a 100 million dollar gift to private schools to save funding for all the public schools. He runs toward chaos, not governing. So after 30 years of debate on school funding, 4 years of hearings and meetings on this bill, publicly saying he liked 90% but vetoed it anyway, then added demands no one discussed and have not been vetted in any public forum.
Ok. But Madigan.
Comment by Sideline watcher Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:07 am
Willy - it passed the skin of its teeth. I know they need 71 to override. MJM clearly does not have that. That is on him. Perhaps if his negotiator had not added in the CPS provisions it would have a) passed with way more than 60 and b) not turn into this morass of a last minute conundrum.
Comment by Curl of the Burl Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:08 am
===MJM clearly does not have that. That is on him.===
Nope. Sorry.
Rauner would needs 71 to accept the AV. There isn’t that either.
“School funding? Rauner vetoed that”
That’s how vetoed work.
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:10 am
Here’s the bottom line. There isn’t 71 today.
It’s not just a dog and pony show. Running a new bill with Rauner’s changes will show where there is support, if any, and how deep it is.
If that doesn’t get enough votes (it likely won’t), then they can either run the original Senate SB-1 or the House version SB-1. See where the support is, and if any changes can pass. If it succeeds, still has to pass the Senate with 37.
If they do it quickly and none of the above works, then the AV’ed SB-1 is still sitting on the back burner. It may turn out to be the only choice for school funding this year.
Some of you are criticizing these moves by Madigan, but he understands process. He’s actually doing Rainer a favor, keeping all options open as long as possible.
The next move is actually Rauner’s, whether on not to put ILGOP House votes on any of the bills.
Comment by RNUG Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:11 am
Why wouldn’t there be enough votes to override? Even the governor says the bill is 90%. What is the justification, 91%, 93%??? Are Republican house members just trying to create a crisis?
Comment by RetiredStateEmployee Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:15 am
== Sideline watcher - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:07 am: Rauner didn’t amend the parts that he didn’t like, he literally rewrote the bill. He added TIF and PTELL language that could be devastating to the rest of the districts in his veto message. Besides the fact that he isn’t allowed to rewrite legislation in that manner, while he continually crowed he would veto it, behind the scenes he demanded a 100 million dollar gift to private schools to save funding for all the public schools. ==
Sideline watcher, your analysis is top notch.
Comment by Don'tPlayWithKidsEducation Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:17 am
Rich, my comment get lost? Or did I forget to add my handle to it?
Comment by RNUG Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:18 am
“this morass of a last minute conundrum”
I’m just liking the phraseology.
Comment by Tequila Mockingbird Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:18 am
Tequila - thank you. I have been known to use my wordsmithing skills from time to time.
Comment by Curl of the Burl Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:21 am
=RetiredStateEmployee - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:15 am: =
The House needs 71 votes to over-ride Rauner’s veto. There are Not 71 Democrats in the House. Plus Rauner will not allow the Republicans to vote to over-ride his veto on SB-1.
Comment by Don'tPlayWithKidsEducation Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:21 am
“Are Republican house members just trying to create a crisis? ”
Yes.
Comment by Don'tPlayWithKidsEducation Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:23 am
“Rather than attempt an override, they will introduce a different bill…”
Like I said repeatedly, they should first introduce a bill that removes funding for Chicago. Let the Republicans vote on that. It will fail. Then Vote to accept the AV. It will fail. Then vote to override. This order will force Republicans in the end to either fund schools with a bill they helped write, or unfund schools.
Comment by H-W Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:26 am
The immediate question is whether to override.
Opponents to SB1 are trying to show elements of a “better ” bill that could pass. They are trying to beat an actual bill with an imaginary one.
We all know the perfect is the enemy of the good.
Comment by Last Bull Moose Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 10:35 am
This idea of voting on SB1 as modified by the AV as a separate bill to show there is not support for it is a waste of the public’s money for the session. It will not get four votes for the override.
So we play this out, in some months there will indeed be school districts that will have to close down due to a lack of State funding. By then we will have to come up with another school funding bill, which isn’t a bad idea really. SB 1 as it exists will likely not be funded sufficiently to achieve its goal of equity, a far lower cost proposal needs to be drafted, one that helps CPS somewhat and provides targeted help for what SB1 calls the tier one districts.
Comment by Rod Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 11:02 am
==The immediate question is whether to override.==
The responsible thing to do would be to run this vote immediately, and then move on to try to forge a compromise.
But the votes aren’t likely there today, so instead, Madigan waits until closer to the first day of school, in hopes that more R votes might flip. If enough votes flip, great, we’re done; Illinois is saved from Rauner again.
If enough votes don’t flip, then there’s a really tight negotiation window, with the principal negotiators having no record of working well together.
Comment by Robert the Bruce Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 11:15 am
RNUG @ 10:11 — thanks for that post, clarifies the situation nicely
Comment by Flapdoodle Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 11:43 am
This will go until we are on the precipice of a major crisis…MJM swoops in to save the day and Rauner looks like a failure (again).
Comment by Diverdown Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 11:59 am
= Diverdown - Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 11:59 am: =
That is because Rauner does not understand the legislative process and Madigan does.
Comment by Mama Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 3:29 pm
== The next move is actually Rauner’s, whether on not to put ILGOP House votes on any of the bills. ==
We’ll, we now know the answer to that: not.
Comment by RNUG Wednesday, Aug 16, 17 @ 3:47 pm