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Maybe some movement in the Senate on gun dealer licensing, but not yet in the House

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After weekend talks with House Speaker Michael Madigan and Senate President John Cullerton, Emanuel believes the chances for an override [of Gov. Bruce Rauner’s veto of a gun dealer licensing bill] may well come down to the votes of three DuPage Republicans, all of who are being challenged by women.

At the time, I said I was highly dubious that they were only three suburban GOP votes shy of passage…

The bill fell seven votes shy of a veto-proof majority in the House. It only received 30 votes in the Senate - six votes shy of passage. So they flipped ten members?

* Tribune today…

Even as gun control advocates rallied under the Capitol dome, Democrats said they’re still looking for the votes they’d need to override Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner’s veto of a gun store licensing bill. […]

[Sponsoring Democratic Sen. Don Harmon of Oak Park] said he is still working to get enough votes to override Rauner’s veto. The Senate deadline to vote is April 25, and Harmon said he’s hoping for a vote next week. Democratic state Rep. Kathleen Willis of Addison, the bill’s House sponsor, said she was still about seven votes short in that chamber.

So, the Senate doesn’t yet have the votes (although Sen. Harmon told the SJ-R that “he’s ‘not quite there’ yet but has picked up a few extra votes”) and, according to the Tribune, the House roll call is stuck right where it was when it passed.

House GOP Leader Jim Durkin is working against the bill and predicted last week it would fall short in that chamber, but also said he believes the override will pass the Senate.

* Meanwhile…

Sen. Kwame Raoul, who is sponsoring a Senate bump stock ban bill, said he’s waiting to see what happens with a House bump stock ban bill that already passed both chambers.

That bill hit a road block after the Senate added an amendment to it.

Rep. Marty Moylan, D-Des Plaines, said Wednesday he doesn’t have a timeline on when he’ll be ready to proceed on his bill. He was unhappy with the Senate amendment, and said last week he’d either start over and write a completely new bill or take action to remove the amendment in the House.

Raoul said he thinks it’d be faster to keep moving forward with the House bump stock ban bill, but said if Moylan doesn’t take action soon, he’s not opposed to proceeding with his proposed measure.

posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 10:42 am

Comments

Just pass it again. Rauner might sign it now that the primary’s over.

Comment by Fax Machine Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 10:57 am
We license hair braiders in illinois. But people who deal in weapons of war? nah…

Comment by Betsy's comment Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 11:08 am
@Betsy’s Comment: Does the Federal Government license hair-braiders? Gun Dealers are already licensed by the Feds, and that is why there is opposition to this bill. No one is saying that they shouodn’t be licensed, but they already are….
It just creates more paperwork and expense to small gun dealers; many believe that the real purpose of this bill is to drive smaller dealers out of business…

Comment by downstate commissioner Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 12:14 pm
@downstate commish - there is more in this proposal than what is required by the feds. Plus the ATF is under staffed and threatened at every turn by national GOPs. I’ll settle for a bit of redundancy if it means a belt and suspenders approach to people handing out assault weapons. If it were redundant hair braiding regulations, id agree with you.

Comment by Betsy's comment Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 12:47 pm
funny thing is it doesn’t license all gun dealers. the Walmarts fo the world and Dicks don’t have to get a license.

If you don’t make 20% of revenue fromthe “sale” of firearms you don’t need a license so the guy in a subdivision working out of his house won’t have to get one if 80% of his evenue comes from parts and ammo and transfer from the internet.

The real goal of the bill is to drive dealers out and send costs through the roof with mandate after mandate

Comment by Todd Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 1:16 pm
==send costs through the roof==

Who cares. You entitled to cheap firearms now?

I think the gun industry would survive licensing. And if someone can’t handle getting a license then I don’t want them selling guns in the first place.

Comment by Demoralized Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 1:27 pm
we all have licenses. There is very little a state license is going to do, except weaponize a state agency to drive legitamate business out of business.

they canb’t handle that these shops they don’t like that they get along with their local towns and ATF inspections have turned up nothing

Comment by Todd Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 3:10 pm
==weaponize a state agency==

Oh please. Can you get any more hyperbolic?

And if it’s a legitimate business they shouldn’t have a problem getting a license now should they?

Comment by Demoralized Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 3:19 pm
=== And if it’s a legitimate business they shouldn’t have a problem getting a license now should they ===

I’m not for or against this licensing, but to argue that a “legitimate business” should have no problems getting a license regardless of the burden, bureaucracy, requirements, costs, value, etc., is absolutely absurd. It’s completely legitimate for an industry to question government regulations imposed upon them.

Comment by Just Observing Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 3:45 pm
Will do absolutely nothing to reduce the amount of guns in the hands of the bad guys.

Comment by JDuc Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 3:52 pm
==Will do absolutely nothing to reduce the amount of guns in the hands of the bad guys.==

That’s the equivalent of saying we shouldn’t have laws because the bad guys won’t follow them anyway. That’s just silly.

Comment by Demoralized Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 3:54 pm
Interesting Pennsylvania requirement “Any individual or dealer selling a handgun is required to sell or transfer it at the place of business of a licensed dealer or county sheriff’s office. ” I took this straight from the NRA website, which, BTW, had a huge red box prompt for me that Illinois folks are under attack like never before re their guns. sheesh.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 3:57 pm
My only question: if the licensing is no big deal why are the Wal-Marts & large sporting goods stores of the world exempt? Something about what’s good for the goose…

Comment by MyTwoCents Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 5:28 pm
Im confident that the majority of proponents have never purchased a firearm. Fbi checks, isp checks, foid registration, atf forms, wait times, severe penalties, etc. Every dealer carefully follows these laws. Doing that twice will just raise costs for the state, dealers and legal consumers (which I suspect is the objective)

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 5:41 pm
That reminds me… I need to call my hairdresser to see if my FBI background check cleared.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 5:49 pm
Let’s face it, the dealer licensing bill is just plain old fashioned redlining. The bill is intended to shut down 4 gun shops in close proximity to Chicago communities heavily populated by minorities and low-income individuals.

If those shops close, as Harmon wants them to, lawful Chicagoans wishing to buy firearms will be forced to endure 2-100 mile round trip trips to acquire a firearm. Meanwhile, White suburbanites need only drive 20 miles.

Anyone supporting this licensing bill is essentially saying, “Minorities cannot be trusted with guns.”

Comment by Petey Pal Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 5:51 pm
“The real goal of the bill is to drive dealers out and send costs through the roof with mandate after mandate”

The real goal of the dealer licensing bill is so that the state police as the designated inspection agency can copy gun ownership records and addresses from all dealers in Illinois, then turn over ownership info. to local police and sheriffs so they can target people they don’t like for raids.

Even after being fired by NRA, Vandermyde is still dishonest. Why don’t Vandermyde and Richard Pearson from ISRA ask the anti-gun IL Chiefs of Police and the rest of the police unions to help oppose the state dealer licensing bill? Both of these sellouts fell all over themselves giving police unions everything they wanted in Rep. Brandon Phelps concealed carry bill in 2013.

But it was all worth it, because the NRA bill had local pre-emption, which is now being repealed. Great work by the “A Team” of Pearson and Vandermyde as always. Sell out your members, lie to them, repeat.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Apr 19, 18 @ 5:56 pm