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* The [again] updated retirement, lost a primary, etc. list…
*CORRECTED x2*
Here's the updated list of IL General Assembly departures after the March primary
(Added Sen. Trotter, added Sen. Elgie Sims Jr. who resigned his State Rep. seat but was appointed to the State Senate)#twill pic.twitter.com/OjPuaZwya3
— Illinois Working Together (@IllinoisWorking) May 4, 2018
* So, that’s 13 House Democrats, or 19 percent of the total caucus; 14 House Republicans, or 27 percent of the total; 5 Senate Democrats, which is 13.5 percent of the total and 5 Senate Republicans, which is 23 percent of their total. Grand total so far: 37. Whew.
And we’ll likely be adding Rep. Silvana Tabares (D-Chicago) if and when she is appointed to the Chicago city council in the coming weeks. That’ll push the grand total percentage to 21.5.
*** UPDATE *** Retired Sen. Donne Trotter isn’t on that list, so I adjusted the numbers, including the headline.
Former Rep. Elgie Sims took Trotter’s place, but I don’t know what to do about him, so I left that count alone.
Also, there are some good points in these text messages, which I’ve cleaned up a bit…
The thing is - 13 house Ds are leaving/left, but 3 have already been replaced, 1 is running for Senate + 1 for lt guv, so only 8 are actually lame ducks. Only 1 House R is running for Senate, so the other 13 are lame ducks…going to take a lot more wrangling on R side.
Easy to imagine more than a few of those R’s dumping Rauner on a budget vote, etc…probably explains why Rauner has basically zero demands on the budget this time.
McAuliffe, Durkin, Sommer, [Dan] Brady and Hammond will be the only people left [in the House next January] who took office before 2011.
lol only 5 House Republicans will have served under more than Quinn and Rauner [by the end of this term, assuming no one else loses]. Kinda nuts!
Only 15 will have served under more than JUST RAUNER…compared to 22 who have ONLY served under Rauner. That’s nuts.
So basically a pretty large majority of the non-lame duck House Republican caucus has never dealt with a governor who isn’t Bruce Rauner.
posted by Rich Miller
Friday, May 4, 18 @ 11:43 am
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And that is even before election day which might have a mini red wave south of Springfield but sure looks like a blue wave coming to the Chicago area. Buckle up!
Comment by Chicago Friday, May 4, 18 @ 11:47 am
This can be used as a response to the call for term limits. The system works on its own. People arrive, learn, mentor new arrivals, and eventually leave.
Comment by Thoughts Matter Friday, May 4, 18 @ 11:50 am
#TermLimits
Comment by Just Me Friday, May 4, 18 @ 11:58 am
The ideal number is 100% turnover, but this is progress.
Comment by Chris Widger Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:01 pm
If over 1 in 5 are leaving… that’s a lot of turnover in of itself.
===13 House Democrats, or 19 percent of the total caucus===
and…
===4 Senate Democrats, which is 11 percent of the total.===
Versus…
===14 House Republicans, or 27 percent of the total===
and…
===5 Senate Republicans, which is 23 percent of their total.===
Rauner seems to be shooing more Republican away (and the Trump midterm, and… )
The elevated “percentage” of GOP caucus members gone is alarming to the point… what does a Republican GA member look like and are they all to monolithic to what is a narrowing of the party?
That’s what worries me.
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:03 pm
===The ideal number is 100% turnover, but this is progress.===
Institutional knowledge > anarchy of 100% turnover.
It is Friday, the dorm rooms are starting early, and finals are over for some too.
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:05 pm
==Institutional knowledge > anarchy of 100% turnover.==
There’s a saying in sports–”you can’t fire the players.” But you can fire the coaches, and Illinois’s track record suggests we do that. Incidentally, that’s an argument for getting rid of Rauner too, which I’m fine with if the Legislature is out too.
What sorts of things does the Legislature know how to do that would be lost if there were complete turnover, and how do those things benefit the state on average?
Comment by Chris Widger Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:09 pm
Term limits kind of take care of themselves. Unless you have just a few specific people in mind.
Comment by wordslinger Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:14 pm
Wonder how many became or are going to become lobbyists.
Comment by Anon Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:16 pm
what about Trotter?
Comment by Spliff Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:21 pm
Since they’re not seeking re-election, I wish the 36 would be honest about our state’s need for tax revenue and investing in higher education/social services (instead of partisan bickering).
Comment by Jocko Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:22 pm
Chris Widget
100% turnover is what CA has had since the mid-90s, and other than Gov. Brown pulling rabbits out of hats during his 2nd tour as Gov, it has been a disaster.
Comment by Smitty Irving Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:29 pm
===what about Trotter?===
Bridget is already gone too
Comment by Joe Bidenopolous Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:34 pm
So much for term limits huh?
Comment by allknowingmasterofracoondom Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:37 pm
The tier 2 caucus
Comment by Almost the Weekend Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:53 pm
1 in 5 are leaving probably because the most powerful state legislator in the nation is not a “change person”
People with good intentions arrive, learn and realize they are powerless, get frustrated they cannot reform anything and leave
No wonder we lead the nation in distrust of state government
Comment by Lucky Pierre Friday, May 4, 18 @ 12:54 pm
So Rauner gets his term limits by creating a perma-war toxic environment that not even the perks of the IL General Assembly can make up for. Bruce must be the Inspector Clouseau of private equity moguls… or perhaps it’s just really hard to fail. It’s not like any of the panhandlers in front of my local Jewel-Osco are ex-tycoons wiped out in the Great Recession.
Comment by James Knell Friday, May 4, 18 @ 1:05 pm
**People with good intentions arrive, learn and realize they are powerless, get frustrated they cannot reform anything and leave**
Good theory. Except for the fact that many of them (especially on the HGOP side) are leaving because they realized they were NOT powerless, and stood up and made a touch decision and tough votes, and are now essentially being forced out.
Comment by SaulGoodman Friday, May 4, 18 @ 1:05 pm
===1 in 5 are leaving probably because the most powerful state legislator in the nation is not a “change person”===
lol
Yeah, that’s it.
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, May 4, 18 @ 1:06 pm
===1 in 5 are leaving probably because the most powerful state legislator in the nation is not a “change person”===
If that’s the case, no need for term limits…
Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, May 4, 18 @ 1:08 pm
=What sorts of things does the Legislature know how to do that would be lost if there were complete turnover, and how do those things benefit the state on average?=
So you would prefer that lobbyists, big money contributors, and career bureaucrats be in charge instead of publicly elected officials?
Do you even know what you really believe?
Comment by JS Mill Friday, May 4, 18 @ 1:25 pm
7 D lame ducks - Beiser is already gone. Autocorrect made it “Bridget”
Comment by Joe Bidenopolous Friday, May 4, 18 @ 1:38 pm
Except the most powerful state legislator in the country is not term limited
Make the argument that legislators terrified to avoid taking tough votes on taxing retirement income, raising other taxes, reforming pensions and cutting spending because they know it jeopardizes their reelection prospects is not the reason for the unbalanced budgets for the past 18 years
Comment by Lucky Pierre Friday, May 4, 18 @ 1:52 pm
–1 in 5 are leaving probably because the most powerful state legislator in the nation is not a “change person”–
The “probability” you would write that was 100%. No doubt in my mind.
One-trick pony, but really not that good at it.
Comment by wordslinger Friday, May 4, 18 @ 1:53 pm
===Except the most powerful state legislator in the country is not term limited===
Coulda passed that leader term limit out of the Senate if the grand bargain hadn’t been undermined by the governor. Woulda put a huge amount of pressure on MJM. But, y’all gotta be all or nothin’ and, once again, y’all got nothin’.
Comment by Rich Miller Friday, May 4, 18 @ 2:02 pm
**Except the most powerful state legislator in the country is not term limited**
Yea, he is. His term is limited to two years, every cycle.
Comment by SaulGoodman Friday, May 4, 18 @ 2:34 pm
==1 in 5 are leaving probably because the most powerful state legislator ==
lol. Different day, same bot talking points. Perhaps try some new programming.
==most powerful state legislator in the nation is not a “change person”==
At least he’s never claimed to not be in charge.
Comment by Demoralized Friday, May 4, 18 @ 3:01 pm
==lol. Different day, same bot talking points. Perhaps try some new programming==
Our IT support staff left step-by-step instructions for corrective programming of the Luckybot 6000 application just last week. We have not heard back from anyone in that division yet, hopefully someone will follow up soon. Darned thing is just gonna keep producing the same errors until then, and may even overload and fry the whole system sometime between early November and mid-January.
Comment by Lester Holt’s Mustache Friday, May 4, 18 @ 3:41 pm
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Comment by Numbers Agustine Thursday, May 24, 18 @ 10:52 pm